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Old 02-01-2017, 11:30 AM
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Barbosa and Leal Developed as a Bionic Device

Since I have a penchant for believing that B&L is a reincarnation of Tesla's Special Generator, and since we know so little about William Lyne's description of the latter to replicate it, and since my own experiments at EarthingLife.info to discover what the latter actually is has spawned a new breed of B&L devoted to the welfare of the body as a bionic sleep circuit in the course of attempting to also make it work as a power magnifier for machines, I'm starting this new thread apart from my two prior haunts at Barbosa and Leal Devices - Info and Replication Details and Tesla's Special Tri-Metal Generator with a video, three rough sketches and a photo of a first attempt at a modified emulation of Clarence's replication of B&L based on my analysis at the three links above plus my B&L and TSG blogs.
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Old 02-04-2017, 07:40 PM
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Question Common ground, construction material dependent on frequency?

Whether the mass for increasing output is iron or aluminum may depend upon the frequency applied to it: high for aluminum vs low for iron, or maybe incorporating both by favoring high over low?
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Old 02-05-2017, 07:44 PM
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Updates on diodes and frequency vs tri-metals.

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Old 02-07-2017, 10:30 AM
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Solid State vs Kinetic

Maybe it's possible to neutralize the Lenz effect with something other than two primaries wound on a pair of stationary, counterpoised toroids?


Maybe a pair of counterpoised, brush DC motors can also do the job?


Although, if the Lenz effect is truly balanced with counterpoised DC motors, then maybe they won't move? If either one does manage to rotate - if even slightly, then maybe a resistor or small coil has to be placed somewhere adjacent to one of its leads to slow it down or stop its rotation? Making this a substitute for toroids, not an alternative for solid state primaries within B&L's circuitry?
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Old 02-09-2017, 04:26 AM
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Correction of Placement of Neon Bulb

I made a mistake in my misunderstanding of where does the neon bulb go in Clarence's successful replication of B&L? I've also had to reconsider why does the B&L circuit work? These two questions are related. The answer is: electrostatics.

One subsidiary question is: why the numerous grounding rods versus very few? The electrostatic answer is: increased surface area (not merely increased mass contributing to a larger magnetizable potential as I had previously guessed). Thus, a difference in electrostatic potential arises between the two sets of grounding rods and the electrostatic potential of the Earth contributes to boosting their potential difference.

Another subsidiary question is: what does the Earth's magnetism have to do with the efficiency of B&L's circuit? The electrostatic answer is found here: “Changing electric field induces magnetic field and changing magnetic field will induce electric field.” And here: “3) Electricity and magnetism are essentially two aspects of the same thing, because a changing electric field creates a magnetic field, and a changing magnetic field creates an electric field.” In other words, a strong geomagnetism in the area in which you're to setup your replication of B&L will also just happen to be an area of strong electrostatic potentials which strongly vary over time creating the strong geomagnetism in your area and vice versa.

Which leads me to my next question...
What does the combined surface areas of electrostatically charged grounding rods have to do with Tesla's Special Generator's specification of massive iron? Gee. This one is easy, now...

The electromagnetically electrostatic answer is: the massive iron specified by Nikola Tesla in his “Special Generator” will also translate to a large electrostatic potential predicated on how the translation is setup to occur.

After consideration of Clarence's post here on Energetic Forum, I've decided to move my conjectured placement of this neon surge protector to the following location...


Until I change all my sketches and all my videos containing my sketches, this post will have to adequately serve notice of my intention to correct my prior mistakes.
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Old 02-10-2017, 03:56 AM
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Symmetry & Sleep vs Asymmetry & Overunity

I don't possess fancy shop equipment nor the skill to use them. All I ever use are a basic meter to test for continuity (have I connected two wires together, or am I kidding myself?), and simple inferences such as: the use of LEDs to test for the presence of amperage flowing in any position of the circuit relative to any other position with a similar LED placed there and which way does it flow? But my most important piece of equipment is the sensitivity of my own body, coupled with my intuition and limited expertise for interpreting results and what to do next. For this latter factor I owe my debt to the fortuitous discovery of other peoples' thoughts and experiences (here at Energetic Forum) on specific instances which are relevant to my study.


After testing out the circuit, above, and its overunity analog with neon bulb / resistor or resistor alone, below ...


... I've come to the conclusion that the 'idle mode' for this device is unity or less than unity, but not overunity due to its symmetry and lack of overunity whenever its neon bulb is missing ....


This latter condition is ideal for sleeping wherein the body wants to achieve balance during its period of rest. Overunity is a condition of asymmetry ideal for achieving Coefficients of Performance greater than one, but lousy for achieving deep rest, or any rest. Instead and more than likely, a condition ripe for cancer or a stroke will be the result of sleeping in a condition of asymmetry.

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Old 02-11-2017, 03:25 AM
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Question Replacing Grounding Rods and Neon Bulb with a Four Plate Capacitor

I'm guessing that the main driving force behind B&L is the electrostatic field which it creates among the various grounding rods. Strong geomagnetism may indicate a parallel symptom of strong geoelectrostatics as well. Both will contribute to raising or maintaining the voltage delivered to the Captor Loop. The shape and orientation of the grounding rods is not unlike that of an emitter of an ion generator: a needle tip. So, an interactive relationship with the Earth is not unlikely. And the preferred embodiment of each grounding rod, copper plated steel, certainly lends the notion that geomagnetics is not a trivial influence.

With all of this in mind, it is not hard to imagine possible alternatives to an Earth-based B&L.

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Old 02-12-2017, 11:53 AM
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Electrostatic Reception of Natural and Manmade Power from the Earth

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Old 02-12-2017, 11:54 AM
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Separating our Symmetrical Devices from our Asymmetrical Devices

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Old 02-13-2017, 03:09 AM
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REDOX explains the geophysics of petroleum, lava and Barbosa and Leal's Earth Captor.


REDOX also explains Tesla's Battery used in his 1931 Pierce-Arrow demonstration. REDOX also explains his Special Generator composed of aluminum, copper and iron. Confirmation comes from Bruce Perreault...

https://is.gd/Al_Fe_Diode
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Good for referencing the links to the original story of Tesla's Pierce-Arrow demo...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola...ctric_car_hoax

But this gets better...
This is the proper way to analize Barbosa and Leal...

Two separate inputs, one for voltage and another for current, plus a mixer which does not allow for the circuit to detract from these two low wattage inputs, but -instead- allows for their combination to result in a COP > 1.

The low watt voltage input are the two sets of grounding rods interacting with the Earth's geomagnetic field by creating their own electrostatic field as a 'fish net' of sorts.

The low watt ampere input is the Electric Keeper, the continuous loop of wire passing through the one or two toroids as their secondary coil.

The output of these two occurs via the Captor Loop and voltage shunt between the Electric Keeper and the hot lead coming from plug #1 in this diagram...


Ferroelectric Capacitors and the Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
http://www.cheniere.org/misc/ferroelectric.htm

So, the proper way to analyze the Earth Captor's 60 copper plated steel grounding rods of Clarence's successful replication of Barbosa and Leal is to think of these grounding rods as the ferroelectric plates of a capacitor.
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Old 02-14-2017, 03:29 AM
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Disinformation? Misinformation? Intriguing Possibility!


I'm looking at this picture and I'm seeing no obfuscation, just an ordinary reference to an application of B&L involving a building's power mains rather than getting completely off the grid to implement this. But what if this reference to neutralizing the Lenz effect is a little misleading considering that this has nothing to do with getting off the grid?

And what if Clarence, and Barbosa and Leal in their patent, misled us a little by swerving our attention to an intriguing detail having no relation, at all, to the issue of complete energy independence?

What if the Lenz effect is irrelevant to a multi-part circuit whose component sections are isolated from each other such that no Lenz effect occurs, anyway, requiring neutralization?


Or, in the alternative, in case a neon/resistor pair of components are required as both surge protection and to "strike a match", so to speak, to initiate this device since: it is not a self-starter, and initiation requires a "strike voltage" greater than its idle "follow through" voltage of 200 millivolts, here is this version of my speculations...


But if it were necessary to exclude the neon bulb / surge protector, then a closed loop would be necessary becoming the 'Captor Loop'.


Of course, this is all idle speculation based on a photo which is prone to misinterpretation, because of some confusing wires passing underneath junctions and what not...

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Captor Loop is Definitely a Closed Loop in this Schematic

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Old 02-15-2017, 01:45 PM
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Talking Replacing B&L's Grounding Rods with Aluminum – Iron, Schottky PIN Diode

What if the two sets of grounding rods were replaced with multiple capacitor plates? And what if these plates were alternately made of aluminum versus iron representing the input versus the output voltage, respectively - just like the anode / cathode of a similarly constructed P-N diode used by Bruce Perreault in his Aerial Captor? And what if the dielectric between the plates were copper wound bifilar pancake coils connected in series and their whole stack were to be closed looped end-to-end making their entirety a floating coil not connected to anything other than themselves? Each aluminum plate is connected to every other aluminum plate in series. Likewise for the iron plates. The whole set of aluminum plates are connected to the input ground connection (analogous to the four grounding rods of Clarence's B&L replication). While the whole set of iron plates are connected to the output ground connection leading to the Captor Loop surrounding the Electric Keeper. This latter set of iron plates represents the 56 grounding rods of Clarence's replication. This, then, should constitute a capacitor of sorts, arranged like a diode pushing electrons towards the Electric Keeper, yes?

Hysteresis is that property of a magnetizable substance such that it remembers its magnetic state prior to the present moment. This is what makes iron so suitable for making into magnets and so unsuitable for making magnets out of aluminum and copper. Yet, both aluminum and copper can become slightly magnetized, but their memory of having been magnetized is not so good as is the memory of iron (should the magnetic influence go away). Plus, aluminum wants to shoo away any magnetism while copper wants to embrace it. It's this distinguishing characteristic of iron, and other ferromagnetizable substances, that will cause the right side of the Schottky diode, depicted below, to gather up a magneto-motive force greater than the left side. This will translate (convert/transduce) into a greater electro-motive force on the right side giving it a higher voltage than the left. This will add voltage to the Electric Keeper and the two toroids will translate the additional voltage into enhanced amperage since the power source on the left (Vin - voltage in) will regulate the overall voltage of this circuit while allowing the amperage to rise as high as the wire gauge of the Electric Keeper will allow.

Meanwhile, the neon bulb / resistor pair is arranged in a smoothing capacitor formation which plays nice to the load lest any surges stress the load and result in damaging it. Not a good idea if allowed to occur!


By the way, this is why Clarence had to use copper-plated steel grounding rods, because without the thin copper layer on top of the iron and adjacent to the silicate soil, the iron would not bond with the silicate soil sufficiently enough to make an electrical contact.
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Arrow Analysis of B&L's Behavior by Placement of Neon Bulb – “Surge Protector”

Correct Analysis of the Behavior of Barbosa and Leal is Predicated
on Correct Placement of its Neon Bulb “Surge Protector”

The neon bulb regulates the behavior of the Captor Loop by splitting it into two phases: collection and retention of the input from the grounding rods. By itself, the Captor Loop cannot do anything. But with the neon bulb, or gas discharge tube, placed in parallel across the Captor Loop's two leads, the behavior of the neon bulb directly influences how the Captor Loop is able to supply energy to the Electric Keeper and keep it there during full-scale operation.


The first stage of behavior of the neon / Captor relationship is the strike voltage of the neon bulb set to around 90 volts according to Clarence's post...

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Clarence - 4 April 2016 - 12:57pm - post #1090 - https://is.gd/neonbulb and https://is.gd/neon_bulb
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Hello @ ALL

I have been made aware that some member builders of the SINGLE TOROID & SINGLE CAPTOR are not using the before mentioned small N2-EH type miniature florescent bulb with it being directly connected to the GROUND ROD RETURN system and the HOT LEG INPUT!

Without that bulb or a 60 volt GDT (Gas Discharge Tube) FAILURE IS CERTAIN! The reason being that either of those small devises IS what provides the NECESSARY POLARIZING to the GROUND RETURN and the HOT LEG INPUT!

ANY CIRCUIT has to have a COMMON ORIGIN PATH – this is what this small device provides – B&L only put it there BECAUSE THEY FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY that it was needed!

The florescent bulb has a strike voltage of 90 volts and then quickly falls off to 61.5 volts – NO AMPERAGE – and a follow thru voltage of 0.2 volts which enables frequency and polarization!

If you want to use a GDT maybe try one with a strike voltage of 60 to 90 volts. Don't know about their amperage involved or follow thru voltage would be, so you would have to look up their datasheet for that.

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This initial surge of voltage polarizes the Captor Loop's orientation as it surrounds a short section of the Electric Keeper...


This polarization insures correct orientation during operation of this device throughout all of its phases, whether they be DC or AC. Once this initial surge recedes to its follow through voltage of 0.2 volts, alignment of frequency occurs in which the Electric Keeper, the Ground Rod Return and the Hot Leg Input (supplying the Load off to the right of this schematic) are all in phase at the same frequency of 60 cycles AC should this be run as an AC device.

So, this neon bulb is more than a mere surge protector. It is most importantly a regulator of behavior.

Of course, without an initial strike voltage reaching the required minimum of 90 volts, nothing is going to happen. And without sufficient ground rods to accommodate the requirements of the load, the output of this device is not insured.

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