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Old 12-31-2016, 05:55 PM
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Dear Forum Participants,

This will be my last, planned post to this forum, or any other public forum. As of December 31, 2016, I am announcing my formal retirement from the field of "advanced alternative energy" research and any public role that I may have played over the last 20 years. After this date, I have no more plans to speak at any future conferences or publish any other books or lectures concerning this subject matter. My website at Free Energy will remain available as a teaching tool for the foreseeable future, but may not be up-dated very much from this point on.

In a few months, I'll be 66 years old. I have been involved in this field for 43 years, ever since 1973, when I first learned of Ed Gray's remarkable electric engine that kept its own batteries charged. In that time, I have had the astonishing privilege of studying under, becoming friends with, and making significant contributions to the work of five extraordinary gentlemen: Bruce E. DePalma, Robert G. Adams, Trevor James Constable, David R. Squires, and John C. Bedini.

Each of these men had a towering intellect and an insatiable drive to gift humanity with the fruit of their creative genius. Each of them succeeded because they were skilled experimentalists, honest critics of their own work, and because they were willing to publish significant portions of their scientific discoveries.

And now, each of them has departed this world. Their work here is over. Three of them died just this year. Starting in the 1980s, as a group, we set out to publish enough information about the "free energy" technologies to make sure they could never be suppressed again. At this point, I believe that goal has been accomplished, and therefore my public work in this field is done, as well. This process will continue in the able hands of the younger generation, and so I can bow out now without disturbing that progress.

People close to me know that I have been slowly moving in this direction for a number of years. John's unexpected death last month gave me an opportunity to reassess my priorities and refocus my attention on other activities that are also very meaningful to me. So, starting in 2017, I plan to give my full attention to these other pursuits.

If you are reading this, Thank You for contributing to my life. If you were a Supporter, thank you for your support. I hope my work has encouraged your own efforts. If you were a Skeptic, thank you for your skepticism. I hope my efforts gave you fresh reasons to question your knowledge base, even as your skepticism gave me fresh reasons to re-examine mine. If you were a Naysayer, thank you for trying to "save me" from a fantasy you were sure I was trapped in. I appreciate your good will and noble intentions, even if I was not always polite about it!

Everyone of you has enriched my experience of being involved in this field in some way. But over the years, my motivations for staying involved have changed tremendously. In the last 43 years, I have experienced being the Novice, the Naysayer, the Skeptic, the Experimenter, the Student, the Discoverer, the Historian, the Author, the Educator, and the Expert! I actually didn't try to BE any of these things. I just wanted to know the Truth about certain anomalous inventions, and in general, about all the different ways Nature is willing to provide useful energy. So, no matter where you are on this path, I was right where you are now at some point in my evolution.

What I discovered is that Truth is only found in Philosophy and Religion, but NOT in Science. In Science, all we can find are the FACTS, and how those facts have been INTERPRETED and REPORTED throughout history!

Correctly used, Science is a "formal method on inquiry." Science is not an "intellectual model of reality" or even a "world view." Attempting to make it function that way is like using "science" as a pair of sunglasses, which can only limit the number of frequencies of reality presented for you to see. Never get trapped in that imaginary place where you believe that "science" can describe all valuable experiences. It cannot weigh or measure by any known metric the importance of your Mother's Love or the power that can be unleashed by generosity or kindness. Science has a proper place in society, but its role for the real benefit of the Scientist is quite limited. Here, Philosophy is more important.

This is why, up until about 125 years ago, becoming a Natural Philosopher was the highest possible attainment in the field of science. "Physics" started as the study of the physical world, and that was the study of the behavior of Nature. Imitating Nature allowed technology to develop. Understanding WHAT nature was doing, and HOW to mimic that action with "man-made" means, was the beginning of Invention. Ultimately, this lead to a deeper study of WHY Nature did what it did, and this inquiry developed into a Philosophical observation and contemplation of the behavior of the Natural World.

To be a Natural Philosopher was to recognize one's own embeddedness in the Natural World one was studying, and to participate with the higher Philosophy of Nature as a guide to one's own behavior and discovery process. This understanding of the origin of discovery is why John and I would always say "the machine is the teacher." This whole "natural educational process" has been replaced with University Degrees and a "Theoretical Physics" that has become divorced from the need to run a "reality check" on itself. This has left today's science as an empty shell of what it used to be and what it must once again become in a more enlightened future. Today's society uses science to serve people up as a commodity in the economy to be exploited, whereas some future society will use science to serve human need and free people's time for more creative pursuits.

Philosophically, this is what I found. The facts of science are on your WORK BENCH. Your interpretations of these facts are in your MIND, characterized by the accuracy of your observations and by the imperfections in your mental model of reality. The reports of your interpretations are in these FORUMS and other records, a full two steps removed from the facts. This is why if you don't build and run the experiment yourself, you are left with believing someone else's interpretations and you cut yourself off from the opportunity to pick up on the trail of discovery left by earlier experimenters. As long as you discipline yourself to never confuse these things, the one from the other, you have begun your own genuine discovery process.

In the end, you must believe in yourself and you must earn your own deepest self-respect through honesty, integrity, and clarity. These aspects are not a part of Science, but they must become a part of each Scientist who aspires to do Science well. If you do this, if you let life integrate you at the core of your being, you will discover your way of finding everything you will ever look for.

I believe in you. Thank you for carrying on where I now leave off.

Farewell,
Peter

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Old 12-31-2016, 06:50 PM
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Thank you Peter for your contributions over the years, never had the privilege of meeting face to face but i sure enjoyed when you would chime in. I hope you have a long and happy retirement.
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Thanks for all the correspondence we have had here on this forum over the years. I have always respected your input and knowledge of so many natural systems. I believe, as you do, that nature is the best teacher. I also believe this was Tesla's teacher as well as others. I too, have always been a searcher for the truth and have discovered many profound statements to be true. I suppose there is a little of Sir Conan Doyle in many of us. Only by experimentation can many of these projects of ours be proofed. it is sad that we are losing dedicated researchers at an alarming rate. It is time for those left to carry the torch and release what knowledge that have been hoarding for a patent or other reasons. I too am retired but I must say it has been one of the busiest times of my life. I have fewer friends now, but the ones I have are closer than any I have had before. You will be missed by many who respect you. Good Luck. stealth
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:11 PM
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Thank You Peter L.

I can understand how you need to do other things now. Yes you have
been an inspiration just as all of the other CHIEF MEN. I love you all, your open
heart and laugh has always touched my soul. Thanks for this open door
to study and adventure.

Words can never describe your gift to us so each of us may freely ask
questions and share our need to understand why. This is important to
the man created for deep thought.

Yourself, John B. and so many others who have come and gone from these
forums have made my life a better place finding out I am not alone in
this process of rejecting the dogma of our time and the need to find
some gem's.

You are one of those precious stones.
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Dear Forum Participants,

This will be my last, planned post to this forum, or any other public forum. As of December 31, 2016, I am announcing my formal retirement from the field of "advanced alternative energy" research and any public role that I may have played over the last 20 years. After this date, I have no more plans to speak at any future conferences or publish any other books or lectures concerning this subject matter. My website at Free Energy will remain available as a teaching tool for the foreseeable future, but may not be up-dated very much from this point on.

In a few months, I'll be 66 years old. I have been involved in this field for 43 years, ever since 1973, when I first learned of Ed Gray's remarkable electric engine that kept its own batteries charged. In that time, I have had the astonishing privilege of studying under, becoming friends with, and making significant contributions to the work of five extraordinary gentlemen: Bruce E. DePalma, Robert G. Adams, Trevor James Constable, David R. Squires, and John C. Bedini.

Each of these men had a towering intellect and an insatiable drive to gift humanity with the fruit of their creative genius. Each of them succeeded because they were skilled experimentalists, honest critics of their own work, and because they were willing to publish significant portions of their scientific discoveries.

And now, each of them has departed this world. Their work here is over. Three of them died just this year. Starting in the 1980s, as a group, we set out to publish enough information about the "free energy" technologies to make sure they could never be suppressed again. At this point, I believe that goal has been accomplished, and therefore my public work in this field is done, as well. This process will continue in the able hands of the younger generation, and so I can bow out now without disturbing that progress.

People close to me know that I have been slowly moving in this direction for a number of years. John's unexpected death last month gave me an opportunity to reassess my priorities and refocus my attention on other activities that are also very meaningful to me. So, starting in 2017, I plan to give my full attention to these other pursuits.

If you are reading this, Thank You for contributing to my life. If you were a Supporter, thank you for your support. I hope my work has encouraged your own efforts. If you were a Skeptic, thank you for your skepticism. I hope my efforts gave you fresh reasons to question your knowledge base, even as your skepticism gave me fresh reasons to re-examine mine. If you were a Naysayer, thank you for trying to "save me" from a fantasy you were sure I was trapped in. I appreciate your good will and noble intentions, even if I was not always polite about it!

Everyone of you has enriched my experience of being involved in this field in some way. But over the years, my motivations for staying involved have changed tremendously. In the last 43 years, I have experienced being the Novice, the Naysayer, the Skeptic, the Experimenter, the Student, the Discoverer, the Historian, the Author, the Educator, and the Expert! I actually didn't try to BE any of these things. I just wanted to know the Truth about certain anomalous inventions, and in general, about all the different ways Nature is willing to provide useful energy. So, no matter where you are on this path, I was right where you are now at some point in my evolution.

What I discovered is that Truth is only found in Philosophy and Religion, but NOT in Science. In Science, all we can find are the FACTS, and how those facts have been INTERPRETED and REPORTED throughout history!

Correctly used, Science is a "formal method on inquiry." Science is not an "intellectual model of reality" or even a "world view." Attempting to make it function that way is like using "science" as a pair of sunglasses, which can only limit the number of frequencies of reality presented for you to see. Never get trapped in that imaginary place where you believe that "science" can describe all valuable experiences. It cannot weigh or measure by any known metric the importance of your Mother's Love or the power that can be unleashed by generosity or kindness. Science has a proper place in society, but its role for the real benefit of the Scientist is quite limited. Here, Philosophy is more important.

This is why, up until about 125 years ago, becoming a Natural Philosopher was the highest possible attainment in the field of science. "Physics" started as the study of the physical world, and that was the study of the behavior of Nature. Imitating Nature allowed technology to develop. Understanding WHAT nature was doing, and HOW to mimic that action with "man-made" means, was the beginning of Invention. Ultimately, this lead to a deeper study of WHY Nature did what it did, and this inquiry developed into a Philosophical observation and contemplation of the behavior of the Natural World.

To be a Natural Philosopher was to recognize one's own embeddedness in the Natural World one was studying, and to participate with the higher Philosophy of Nature as a guide to one's own behavior and discovery process. This understanding of the origin of discovery is why John and I would always say "the machine is the teacher." This whole "natural educational process" has been replaced with University Degrees and a "Theoretical Physics" that has become divorced from the need to run a "reality check" on itself. This has left today's science as an empty shell of what it used to be and what it must once again become in a more enlightened future.

This is what I found. The facts of science are on your WORK BENCH. Your interpretations of these facts are in your MIND, characterized by the accuracy of your observations and by the imperfections in your mental model of reality. The reports of your interpretations are in these FORUMS and other records, a full two steps removed from the facts. As long as you discipline yourself to never confuse these things, the one from the other, you have begun your genuine discovery process.

In the end, you must believe in yourself and you must earn your own deepest self-respect through honesty, integrity, and clarity. These aspects are not a part of Science, but they must become a part of each Scientist who aspires to do Science well. If you do this, if you let life integrate you at the core of your being, you will discover your way of finding everything you will ever look for.

I believe in you. Thank you for carrying on where I now leave off.

Farewell,
Peter
God bless you, Doctor. You have been an inspiration to us all. Your work will continue to live, but there shall never be another Peter Lindemann, truly, a one of a kind. You will be missed. Farewell.
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Thanks for showing us part of the road less traveled. It is the destiny of wanderers of such roads to cross paths from time to time, and while your journey has taken you in a different direction, perhaps some day our paths will cross again. It has been a pleasure.
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Thank you Peter

Peter, thank you for all you have contributed.

I have always enjoyed your lectures, presentations and writings and in the manner you presented them. You have always been a gentleman.

I especially enjoyed meeting you and our brief time together during my trips to Idaho. Talking with you casually at John's shop was one of the highlights of those trips.

Take care and I wish you and your family all the best for 2017 and beyond.

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With as much loss as the renewable energy field has experienced in the last few months, it is both saddening and understanding the retirement. You have inspired me to question the established science and physics we are presented with. Like the Wright Brothers we have all have been given flawed data, so to truly understand science and physics we have to verify the data for ourselves. Which I have done and will be releasing those facts as time permits. The greatest gift you have given me was hope for a better humanity with abundance and free flowing knowledge. After working with you for 6 months I came to the conclusion that you truly care about people and the planet as a whole and I hope everyone who studies or has studied your work continues with the same values and dedication that you have brought to the science field overall. We wish you much happiness on your next chapter of your life. Your genius will be missed.

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Peter, I've always enjoyed your videos.

Thank you for your contribution to the alternative energy arena!

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Good luck in whatever you do next!

Keep watching, we're nearly there!

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Hello Peter,

thank you for your guidance, precise explanations and instructions, and patience over the years. It sure is sad to see you go... I wish you all the best.

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Thank you Peter for sharing your lifetime's knowledge and work in the field.

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I've not been a very prolific experimenter but here's what always happened for me: 1. Buy Peter Lindemann presentation. 2. Watch presentation or read material. 3. Sit back totally agog maybe talking to myself 4. Become excited for weeks/months/years afterward thinking about it. Viewing your work has always blown me away and your perspective and extreme clarity has really helped tune me in to something amazing. Your work has been very important to me even though I've not done a whole lot with it as in building stuff. I don't know how to say how I've appreciated it, understanding your presentations has given me something to hold onto and be proud and excited about. You explained something totally amazing and then you showed it work and you blew away all that stultifying miasma of academia and the status quo and helped me keep an independent mind. Just wanna say thank you!

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Thanks for everything you have done!

Peter,

as other have mentioned before me, you always got me listening very carefully during your presentations. You were one of the key persons in my life that made me question and reset my hard-learned knowledge. I can't thank you enough for that!

I'm only getting up to speed after having read a lot over the last ten years, but you and Aaron greatly increased my interest in rebuilding my laboratorium and get to work on the bench, with the writing of the awesome Bedini SG book series, simply an outstanding piece of work.

The great piece that Tom Bearden wrote about the actual effect of sharp DC pulses on a lead acid battery as John did, was also an eye-opener. His explanations have really helped me to understand what today's science is missing: understanding the Heaviside component and create dynamic open systems where this component allows for COP > 1. We engineers should embrace this component and not stick to only the Poynting component, which only causes dissipation and COP is always < 1.

Among the other persons that inspired me also a lot has been (and still is) Paul Babcock with his excellent and well-understandable presentations.

One thing is for sure. If John Bedini and others had not decided to 'open source' his hard-discovered free energy secrets (which were initiated by other inventors) and present his work through the conferences, year after year, and all the other skilled presenters together with him, this big push you and Aaron were able to give the free energy community, we all would still be in complete darkness.

So once again, thank you very much, and I wish you all the best in your new endevours, whatever they may be.

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