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Old 11-10-2016, 02:36 PM
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Thanks! Excellent job; That's exactly how it's hooked up! Cook calls for two six foot long coils and cores where the windings overlap completely from end to end. The coils deliver a combination of transformer and generator induction: The current is traveling in opposite directions at differing speeds; The current in the larger wire secondary of less resistance penetrates the primary with a corkscrewing magnetic field that travels in reverse direction through the primary wire and it's magnetic field simultaneously. The reverse field is counter spinning and traveling along the length of the primary windings at the same time. The field is also bouncing from the interuption. This "Lorentz" (motion in the ocean), interpenetration of force fields, causes generator induction in the windings.

The input current interuption causes transformer induction with the ferrite cores. So together, the coils are not only transforming voltage but also generating amperage from the "Lorentz" force of magnetic field collision. Cook warns that this (battery coil) generates a powerful spontaneous power of it's own that will heat up and fry itself if a load is not connected.
My pleasure Allen,

The only part of all your above post that I am not just agreeing with...is simply to bring on to an OU and Motion Perpetual, Self Runner Device (as it is claimed by Inventor)...absolutely anything that have to do with Classic Magnetism...like -for instance- a "Transformer Effect"...Transformers theory would never, ever will admit that Input would be lower than Output Power (VA)

The way a transformer works is based on a closed core...(not here on this device, where both cores are completely open cylinders) where self or mutual inductance takes place...Flux is running through the closed frame from one coil to the other...

Cook's Device is based completely on SPATIAL MAGNETISM, that by the effect of magnifying-retracting will induce all coils in the system, not only secondaries.

As also, the Lorentz Single Vectors of B-Field Flux...would NOT apply here either. According to Lorentz...a device like this will have huge magnetic losses since B-Fields would be "lost in space"...

Like I wrote before on the Clemente Figuera Thread (by Vidbid)...it is almost impossible trying to "explain" any OU Device based on the existing Magnetism Laws, plus Lorentz Transformations...basically if they refer to Spatial Magnetism Fluctuations, deriving on a "Spinning Magnetic Field"...discarded by Lorentz way back in Time.

Plus the Magnetic Field does NOT need to collapse nor be "interrupted" to properly operate. All it is required is to fluctuate field strength (based on currents feed)...within positive values.

I really believe this above proposal is so simple to "digest"...since all other methods have been tried for decades and they all have been proven NOT to work at ALL...and so, I really can not understand why...we keep trying and trying??...


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Old 11-10-2016, 03:07 PM
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Open core transformers.

@Ufopolitics,

A partial quote from you:

"The way a transformer works is based on a closed core...(not here on this device, where both cores are completely open cylinders)"

The "Induction Coil" pictured in Vidbid's comments is an open core high voltage transformer, is it not?
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Old 11-10-2016, 04:30 PM
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Do any of you think it's possible that interactions between coils gradually builds until it produces a series of EM standing waves? I'm referring to a heterodyning of oscillation frequencies between the coils. This heterodyning might produce standing waves which, in theory can be harnessed without affecting the oscillations within the coils which interact to produce them. In this sense, the constant output of charge picked up from the standing wave(s) would cause many in DM Cook's time to consider this apparatus a "battery."

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@Ufopolitics,

A partial quote from you:

"The way a transformer works is based on a closed core...(not here on this device, where both cores are completely open cylinders)"

The "Induction Coil" pictured in Vidbid's comments is an open core high voltage transformer, is it not?
Oh! Allen...

Yes, they do look "similar"...but that is all.

HV Open Core Transformers are used basically to reduce HV to LV (Step Down)...Typically used in Sub-Stations or from High Feeders downloading to low voltage usable for communities...or "In House" (within own Electric plant) as "Distributors" of V.

HV Open Core Transformers:

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A power voltage transformer is a single-phase unit used for direct transformation of power from a high, transmission level voltage (up to 550 kV) to a low voltage (under 1 kV). Typical power ratings of open-core power voltage transformers are in the range from 10 to 167,5 kVA. The basic concept of these transformers is that they are instrument transformers by design and power or distributive transformers in application.
That was just one slight difference...HV is applied to Primary and so Secondaries bring down (reduce) power (VA)...

Cook's is "just" 180 opposite...it amplifies primaries Input...at Secondaries, then those Secondaries retro feed Primaries and so on and on...within a closed loop.

Not to mention the way Cook connects Primaries to Second Assy Secondary...and viceversa...You connect that way an Open Core HV Transformer and watch 4th of July Fireworks...

And Allen, please, what I mean here is not to look for any further arguments...what I mean is simply that if you are gonna start looking for an answer to explain the way Cook's Device operates...you would be completely lost searching through Open Core Transformers Theory...Lorentz Force or Classic Magnetism...

Otherwise...We should have OU Galore by now...that simple.


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Old 11-10-2016, 05:13 PM
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Definitively!!

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Do any of you think it's possible that interactions between coils gradually builds until it produces a series of EM standing waves? I'm referring to a heterodyning of oscillation frequencies between the coils. This heterodyning might produce standing waves which, in theory can be harnessed without affecting the oscillations within the coils which interact to produce them. In this sense, the constant output of charge picked up from the standing wave(s) would cause many in DM Cook's time to consider this apparatus a "battery."

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Hello Bob,

From my end it is a definite YES!...and that goes exactly to what I have underlined and bold out letters...meaning it is not just one standing wave...but several which gradually stand their Spatial fluctuations from Lo_Hi...to Hi-Lo...passing by all kind of middle-in between 3D layers.

The "key" here is to operate and maintain the waves within the same level ratios...which means when we have time passing by...and say we could watch that Magnetic Wave Spectrum...it would seem just like a "Standing Wave" in Space...

It is like I read in another Thread interesting post before...When we observe an AC Incandescent Light Bulb ON...could we actually see/notice/distinguish that it is fluctuating/flashing/Blinking at 60 Hertz?

Absolutely not.


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Also......

I took a serious look at the Cook patent some years ago and felt it was missing an essential piece. Possibly the interruptir was that piece. I suggest any serious researcher into Cook also look at patent # DE3024814 by Heinrich Kunel. I have the English translation of that patent in my notes somewhere if no one can find an English version on line anywhere

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This one?
http://www.intalek.com/Index/Project.../DE3024814.pdf
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That would be the one.
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Now if somebody would just build it and publish the results.
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Build.

I tried to build one, and it morphed into what I called the "Synchro Coil". I wound up with an 8" section of insulation pipe filled with 1/4" diametric neo tubes. The 30 gauge primary connected to a 16 gauge seconday wrapped over it along the length of the pipe in series with a charging capacitor and a fast switching diode. I accidently came close to a spinning magnet tube with the coil and eventually noticed I could get the spinner to speed up holding the coil in towards the spinning magnet and generate power at the same time.
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Cook's Core Structure...

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Hello Vidbid,

I am planning to use Cook's similar Structure* of Cores and fuse it with my Figuera set. See simple drawing below:

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*By similar structure I meant to have one primary iron core solid tubing, still wound on both ends only (so winding not going through whole core)...and then use the Secondary as a hollow tube of pretty good thickness where a thicker gauge is wound...

This would be possible with sliding fiberglass spools, as sliding "tight" iron cores...

I believe basically that Cook's Iron Cores Structures increase-amplify the Induced Magnetic Field greatly from inside out...by having this outer thick and hollow tubing iron plus the Primaries Core within....and so if it works, it could be expanded within same structure arrangement.

While Figuera uses a linear displacement of EM Fields through Secondaries...by adding Cook's structure, Field's displacement would then be amplified in a 3D Spherically fashion as well the Induced EMF at Secondaries core-coils.


We will see...


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Driving a magnet rotor with the Cook battery alternating field fluctuation apparently helped increase the COP: From the tail end of the patent:


"The alternate changes of the iron cores or magnets may be used for producing electro-magnetic motion, or motion to a wheel of any suitable device".



This is the approach I followed, using the Cook coil to produce motion in a spinning magnet. The stated porpose of the battery!
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Driving a magnet rotor with the Cook battery alternating field fluctuation apparently helped increase the COP: From the tail end of the patent:


"The alternate changes of the iron cores or magnets may be used for producing electro-magnetic motion, or motion to a wheel of any suitable device".



This is the approach I followed, using the Cook coil to produce motion in a spinning magnet. The stated porpose of the battery!
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I built the device a long time ago, 2" x 24" cores 600 turn Primary 5 turn Secondary using 2" wide flat conductor. What would you like to know?.

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I built the device a long time ago, 2" x 24" cores 600 turn Primary 5 turn Secondary using 2" wide flat conductor. What would you like to know?.

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