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Old 07-05-2017, 02:01 AM
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Talking Good Idea

That would be a good idea Bistander as your opinion or response is entirely not needed or wanted. thank you kindly though and have a good day.

To all:

I do understand as i have been so terribly busy myself and horribly distracted by really stupid matter, ie.... wish it was legal to strangle an alcoholic room mate that wants nothing better to do on his off time then to drink beer and chase really ugly hookers and bring them to the house.

I hope you all understand what i have posted in the last few weeks and have a better mental picture of what is taking place. apparently aligning that up with a working model was a little more difficult then i had originally expected but i or rather we will get there. the two are finally aligning up just nicely.

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Good to hear you are still chugging forward.
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Old 07-21-2017, 04:42 AM
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Attn Aaron, or moderators, member Marathonman has pm'd me several times to say that he can't post here anymore, and asked could i make you aware of this and look into it for him.

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Talking Primary and Secondary

Referring to William Hooper and the double emotional electric field produced by the twin magnets one moving in, the other moving out in unison is in my book or understanding the exact thing as Figuera's electromagnets one moving in increasing the other moving out decreasing.
this effect is the cause of the doubled electric field that the secondary is exposed to. the relative unison back and forth motion of the primaries causes currant to flow in the secondary and produces an opposing field to the first. with that opposing field in between the opposing primaries it will be like grabbing the secondary and with your hand and raking it across the doubled electric field in an orderly fashion. but of course the secondary has to be connected to a load for this to take place. the opposing primaries efficiently move this secondary field from side to side with ease through the doubled electric field totally unlike the standard geny.
the lenz law keeps the primaries separate but the electric fields does not know this and is combined to form a doubled electric field presented to the secondary and the primary purpose of the primaries are to impart motion into the secondary across this electric field.
this is of course just my two cents worth.

I could not find wire like the mentor used so for testing purposes i chose to rewire my part G with Square wire. i will post pis very soon.

Thank you Cornboy, i don't know what was wrong but it seams to be fixed or unblocked. i was trying some to copy and paste from a word doc so that could be part of the problem but i never had it before until three weeks ago.

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Attn Aaron, or moderators, member Marathonman has pm'd me several times to say that he can't post here anymore, and asked could i make you aware of this and look into it for him.

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He has always been able to post and is claiming that to make it look like he's being suppressed. He's played these games before. He is banned now because of his trolling in other threads, spreading disinformation and lies and now he is gone. He has slandered me too many times in this forum and I'm sick of his mouth.
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His deception acting as if he had problems when he hasn't.
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Another example - the entire time he could post and is acting like he couldn't. I can see when he posts and I can see when he deletes his own posts since I'm the moderator. He is misleading all of you to believe something was happening when it wasn't. I never banned him until today - before today, I don't follow this thread, nor do I care what he has to say so no reason for me to ban him based on something I'm not reading - not going to happen. He is gone now and it is because of his constant slander against me, lies, trolling, etc...
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He has always been able to post and is claiming that to make it look like he's being suppressed. He's played these games before. He is banned now because of his trolling in other threads, spreading disinformation and lies and now he is gone. He has slandered me too many times in this forum and I'm sick of his mouth.
OK, understand, and will keep working and post my progress here.

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Another example - the entire time he could post and is acting like he couldn't. I can see when he posts and I can see when he deletes his own posts since I'm the moderator. He is misleading all of you to believe something was happening when it wasn't.

Hello Aaron,

Could there be He had issues on His Back-end?, it can happen, I mean, it has happened to me as well, where I make a post and it simply will not publish it, nor can it be previewed, Now, most of Us have the Pop Up Block plugins and -I know- they do interfere a lot with sites software response commands-requests...


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I never banned him until today - before today, I don't follow this thread, nor do I care what he has to say so no reason for me to ban him based on something I'm not reading - not going to happen. He is gone now and it is because of his constant slander against me, lies, trolling, etc...
Well, besides the "probable cause" I cited above, obviously you have sufficient reasons to ban him off this Forum.

I've tried to warn him before about his mouth...but he never listened.


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I've tried to warn him before about his mouth...but he never listened.


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Personally it grinds me to see MM smear Aaron and I don't know
how anyone could stand by and not be ticked off about it. Marmalade
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MM is only copy and paste crazy, control freak nobody. You know that
UFO but you were hoping MM would deliver and never did.
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Personally it grinds me to see MM smear Aaron and I don't know
how anyone could stand by and not be ticked off about it. Marmalade
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Hey Mikey,

And I personally do not recall, honestly, of any time where MM was addressing in any manner either Aaron nor this site, but then again, I did not "follow" MM everywhere he has posted on this whole forum.

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MM is only copy and paste crazy, control freak nobody. You know that
UFO but you were hoping MM would deliver and never did.
The guy behind MM that could have "deliver" all of Us about this whole deal (or at least clarify a good part) would be Doug1...and so Doug hoped MM was going to be able to build the whole thing and so deliver it to Us...which never took place.

I personally never thought MM could be able to complete a full machine, and if by any of those things in life, plus the help from others here...He did...I do not think he will ever give it away just for free.

Now, on the "specific details"...A completely closed winding Part G Toroid, with the kind of copper gauge wire he was suggesting to all of Us here to build it with...would have NEVER, EVER DO absolutely anything else but SHORT OUT our Power Sources.

I tried in lots of private mails here to convince him not to do it that way...but he never listened...plus immediately adopted his "defensive then attack position"...until I decided to just quit here, as I will not be part of this failure... and so... got back to my own personal development.


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There was a sticky which has since been removed where MM viciously attacked Aaron and what he was presenting. I don't remember the exact details but I did read the post. I was very surprised he wasn't banned then. He has also jumped into some other threads that were clearly not connected to the Figuera device and told the posters on their thread they didn't know what they were doing.

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There was a sticky which has since been removed where MM viciously attacked Aaron and what he was presenting. I don't remember the exact details but I did read the post. I was very surprised he wasn't banned then. He has also jumped into some other threads that were clearly not connected to the Figuera device and told the posters on their thread they didn't know what they were doing.

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CITFTA, WHY ARE YOU POSTING ON THIS THREAD?!


THIS THREAD IS STRICTLY FOR SERIOUS BUILDERS ONLY!!!


AS MM WROTE ON FIRST PAGE, ANY MEMBER WHO IS NOT BUILDING THE "GLORIOUS PART G" WOULD BE REPORTED TO ADMIN, THEN MEMBER WOULD BE BANNED, IF INSISTING ON POSTING HERE WITHOUT ANY REAL PROOF!!!


DIDN'T YOU NOTICE THAT EVEN MARATHONMAN HAS BEEN BANNED OUT OF HERE BECAUSE OF NOT BUILDING/DELIVERING ANY "PART G" FULL BUILDS?




































Just kidding Carroll...


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You got me! But I am a builder. Just not a builder of the infamous part G.

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As far as I see it through my tests part G did work to do the job that was invisioned quite well. Although not the way MM first sugested (in the wiring) as I reported quite awhile ago.
This really did give a new insight to the way this machine could operate so was good to persue.
However I was unable to get efficiencies needed, I am sure there is still more about the machine that is not known in its overall makeup.
I have not played around with it for quite some time now but still have ideas for more tests.
I think it will take quite a bit of work to understand this machine in full.

I was really gettin upset that MM never seemed to have a machine built and didn't appear to be testing anything and relaying any results. This is a big problem when you are supposed to be heading a build.
I also told him my feelings about this infamous Doug, and that How is he any different from anyone in the past suppressing information? if he understands this machine and doesn't relay the information some way. And thats a big IF he understands it. Proof is Proof there is nothing else with these machines and Doug type of tales.

Overall my testing to date the best efficiencies I found was pulsing the primaries (one on, the other off and so on) with norths facing each other.
I moved the secondary around and got really efficient results but no overunity. I did this just to try it out but don't consider it the true make up of the way this machine should operate.

The north to north primary set up works well in producing results in the secondarys.
The G core needs more work and understanding with what can be done.
The overall wiring may need more understanding aswell.
Anyway this is what I have found up to now.
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Could there be He had issues on His Back-end?, it can happen, I mean, it has happened to me as well, where I make a post and it simply will not publish it, nor can it be previewed, Now, most of Us have the Pop Up Block plugins and -I know- they do interfere a lot with sites software response commands-requests...




Well, besides the "probable cause" I cited above, obviously you have sufficient reasons to ban him off this Forum.

I've tried to warn him before about his mouth...but he never listened.


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It's possible about problems on his end.

However, when he actually makes a post telling everyone he is "blocked after one post" - doesn't match up because if he was blocked, he couldn't post with a complaint about being blocked.

Even as moderator, I've posted things that didn't come up right - that was more with copy/paste where there is some glitch so I'm not immune to problems.

As you mention about what he has said in the past, I gave him way too many chances. Early on here, he was slandering me and I only left him in and didn't ban him because other were interested in what he had to say and I wanted everyone to have the opportunity to learn from him whatever he was sharing. He was very overt in the past about his slander against me and I still let him stay. But recently, when he started to go into other threads to harass people, including me, he crossed the line one to many times.
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He was very overt in the past about his slander against me and I still let him stay. But recently, when he started to go into other threads to harass people, including me, he crossed the line one to many times.
In the beginning I tore him a new one and then when nothing was done
right away I left it alone knowing he would hang himself to many times.
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Hello all,
As far as I see it through my tests part G did work to do the job that was invisioned quite well. Although not the way MM first sugested (in the wiring) as I reported quite awhile ago.
This really did give a new insight to the way this machine could operate so was good to persue.
However I was unable to get efficiencies needed, I am sure there is still more about the machine that is not known in its overall makeup.
I have not played around with it for quite some time now but still have ideas for more tests.
I think it will take quite a bit of work to understand this machine in full.

I was really gettin upset that MM never seemed to have a machine built and didn't appear to be testing anything and relaying any results. This is a big problem when you are supposed to be heading a build.
I also told him my feelings about this infamous Doug, and that How is he any different from anyone in the past suppressing information? if he understands this machine and doesn't relay the information some way. And thats a big IF he understands it. Proof is Proof there is nothing else with these machines and Doug type of tales.

Overall my testing to date the best efficiencies I found was pulsing the primaries (one on, the other off and so on) with norths facing each other.
I moved the secondary around and got really efficient results but no overunity. I did this just to try it out but don't consider it the true make up of the way this machine should operate.

The north to north primary set up works well in producing results in the secondarys.
The G core needs more work and understanding with what can be done.
The overall wiring may need more understanding aswell.
Anyway this is what I have found up to now.
Hello Netica,

It was great when I saw your set up, plus the real way that Part G works...(OPEN, NOT CLOSED Windings)

I see Part G basically and simply as an "ELECTRICAL ATTENUATION" to the fluctuating Fields Switching Feed, making the rise and fall signal a bit smoother...that's all...Which was represented in the patent -as an Example- with resistors

Of course, Part G won't work with such heavy gauge plus such few turns...this way won't do ABSOLUTELY nothing but a mere "sophisticated" conductor, EVEN being OPEN. (I got tired of telling this fact to MM, SO many times!!...but he always got on the defensive side)

You are right, every Machine should be developed by EACH PART which is composed of...and not just dedicating that much "devotion" (which MM made as a "Cult") just to one single part.

I have developed a different concept about the way primaries and secondaries are disposed...including their cores.

I have developed a different driver method (mechanical rotary switch) Commutation System.

And so far, I am not including Part G on my setup...

N-N works good as Facing and sandwiched Coils-Cores...as Figuera patent shows...but we will NEVER get OU that way.

Will love to have you there when I start disclosing it!!


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It was great when I saw your set up, plus the real way that Part G works...(OPEN, NOT CLOSED Windings)

I see Part G basically and simply as an "ELECTRICAL ATTENUATION" to the fluctuating Fields Switching Feed, making the rise and fall signal a bit smoother...that's all...Which was represented in the patent -as an Example- with resistors

Of course, Part G won't work with such heavy gauge plus such few turns...this way won't do ABSOLUTELY nothing but a mere "sophisticated" conductor, EVEN being OPEN. (I got tired of telling this fact to MM, SO many times!!...but he always got on the defensive side)

You are right, every Machine should be developed by EACH PART which is composed of...and not just dedicating that much "devotion" (which MM made as a "Cult") just to one single part.

I have developed a different concept about the way primaries and secondaries are disposed...including their cores.

I have developed a different driver method (mechanical rotary switch) Commutation System.

And so far, I am not including Part G on my setup...

N-N works good as Facing and sandwiched Coils-Cores...as Figuera patent shows...but we will NEVER get OU that way.

Will love to have you there when I start disclosing it!!


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Hello Ufo,

I also found alot better results with the way I placed primaries and secondaries.
I got very much better results from alternate pulsing. Very high efficiencies incorporating both methods.

Would look forward to, and be interested in any advancements you have found.
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Small Progress.

Hello All, have been extremely busy lately, only been working on this part time.

Some pics of my latest commutator, version 4 .

I couldn,t achieve proper contact between brush and comm face with a flat face comm, especially at high speed, centrifugal force always glued the brush to the holder.

I decided to use this force to advantage and build from scratch an internal commutator. Also with 96 bars i can connect every second winding of 2mm toroid winding, for smooth transition of wave.

Next is to build spindle for brush holder etc.







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What happened??
I slipped and fell on my shop floor, breaking my hip. Am mending slowly..
What happened to Marathon Man???
I need him back.
has anyone make this work:

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Ouch! I hope you're doing better. MM got himself booted. Banned. I figure he got frustrated because he had no clue what he was doing with Figuera and was being proven wrong at every turn, so he attacks and insults Aaron to get himself banned.

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He had ties with Doug1, who made the device work.
However he did have a little attitude.

Oh well?????
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He never made the device work. It was all just a scam to try to get others to do the work. Just like the other MM, madmack, and his magnet motor.
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Can you help me (us) to find information, links about that: Doug1 made the device work. ?? But Work doesn't mean overunity of course.

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He never made the device work. It was all just a scam to try to get others to do the work. Just like the other MM, madmack, and his magnet motor.
I am sorry Bistander...but have to disagree on Doug1 not having a working unit.

I believe he did, a very "tough" one, but I believe it did work.

A long while back, MM sent me a bunch of scripts from conversations he had with Doug, (and asked me to keep it private) a long debate of like 18 Word files, which contains many comments about the way he built the whole thing from scratch parts, an old junked alternator core, flattened internally to make part g, that's a lot of huge steel grinding work!!, plus reusing starter motor windings...also tons of work.

There are lots of useful comments there, as well as "inconclusive answers" from Doug to MM (I would call them "open") where he left it entirely to MM judgement call.

IMO, there were a lack of interpretation from MM related to Doug's explanations (and the other way around)...then Doug used "examples" trying to "illuminate" MM's mind...which I believe never took place.

One of the things I like about part g capabilities, is to use reluctance as a way to control currents back and forth supplied to the inducers, plus the fact that by being a closed core, it could use over and over the same field back and forth with minimal Input required once it was running and loaded.

If we look at a typical Generator, a bit beyond normal and already explained (classic) method of operation...we observe the outer core (outer frame) where generating fields are set...is closed, while the open exciter dc field rotates within it...now let's picture what happens in that combination of open-closed core(s) "magnetically"...then we all will realize the same exciter field is also spinning within that closed core, which means we do not need to "restart" a new field every time it cycles, nor it would be "lost in space" like in an open core...so to a point, the rotating exciter, once closed core is fully magnetized, all it does is to keep the rotation sense going, but no further input is required unless we alter (change) the load characteristics, but then we will be changing the steady-stable operation of the generator we were observing, and would be understood that exciter field would also have to either increase its field strength or decrease it, depending on new load demand.

Edit: I always like to "grant" the "benefit of a doubt" for the sake of enlightenment...


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If we look at a typical Generator, a bit beyond normal and already explained (classic) method of operation...we observe the outer core (outer frame) where generating fields are set...is closed, while the open exciter dc field rotates within it...now let's picture what happens in that combination of open-closed core(s) "magnetically"...then we all will realize the same exciter field is also spinning within that closed core, which means we do not need to "restart" a new field every time it cycles, nor it would be "lost in space" like in an open core...so to a point, the rotating exciter, once closed core is fully magnetized, all it does is to keep the rotation sense going, but no further input is required unless we alter (change) the load characteristics, but then we will be changing the steady-stable operation of the generator we were observing, and would be understood that exciter field would also have to either increase its field strength or decrease it, depending on new load demand.

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Furthermore I will keep adding to my above quote...

What is the difference between an EI Transformer Core and a Generator (Single Phase) cores assembly, like I have cited above?

One main thing we are gonna notice is that the Generator Exciter (Primary on Transformer) rotates a DC Field within the closed outer core...creating that AC Sinewave over space (rotation) and Time (frequency)...while the transformer can only use an AC Input (already "processed" Signal over space-time) sent to Primary.

Fact is that both, keep using and reusing the same Inducing Field on a closed core.

The Geometries differences are given (dictated) by the rotation fact of one, versus the static properties of the second one...Which obviously generates different methods of Mathematical Calculations Formulas...but the main principle remains as exactly the same deal.

Anyways, my way to "resume" into a common picture for the sake of better understanding.


Regards


Ufopolitics
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Last edited by Ufopolitics; 11-29-2017 at 05:04 PM.
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I am sure Doug1 had a working device.
Like UFO I to got the data from Marathon Man. I think Doug1 is way ahead of the rest of us.
However, I haven't solved the problem either.
I wish Marathon Man and Doug1 would come back to this forum with more information!
We need all the brains we can get!!

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