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Old 08-30-2016, 09:46 AM
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Hi mike, thanks for sharing.
Yes im aware what peter is doing and i know he's not using a
commutator. I just feel, there should be a way to do this solid
state also.

Yes you can use the oscillator method, I guess I was not clear enough.
The SSSG is not the SSG. The SSSG is a solid state version. I guess
you missed my point so let me say again.

If you want to do what Peter is doing without the wheel, just solid
state wind up a coil similar to what Peter did and it will be a hell of alot
closer than the oscillator you are running now.

I am talking strictly solid state now. No wheel and no commutator.
Okay? Did you catch the rest? Wind an 8 filar using 3.4.5.6 of them
(and one small one for trigger) wound in series and the other 2 or 3 or 4
power windings to charge a battery but the series wound extra windings
not connected to the power will collect the backlash.

What's wrong with that? You can buy one already wound for just about cost.
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Old 08-30-2016, 05:10 PM
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Hi mike, thanks for sharing, i forgot that he was using those extra strands separately and then in series.
Do you think a regular single strand secondary coil is equivalent, my guess is no, the coupling is probably better the way peter is doing it.
How much is this ready made coil and where can one get it.
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Old 08-30-2016, 10:06 PM
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Hi all, Hi mike, just would like to share the tests i've been making.
Similar to the previous circuit, i'm splitting the positives with the oscillator, while lighting the led bulbs brightly.
I run this for an hour, then i let it rest awhile.
Then i use only the single charge battery to charge the series input batteries using the coil spike, series batteries wired in series or 24 volts.
The led bulbs are not included in the series batteries recharging phase.
So far, it seems to be doing well, we shall see.
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Old 08-30-2016, 10:11 PM
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Hey Sky

Lets put it this way, the circuits are for sale somewhere(I can never find)
and the coils and parts to build the SSG. I can never find where. I looked.
But in regards to charging ability, the SSSG charges better according
to some but the mechanical swinging magnet action is missed.

ASK AARON FOR THE LINK TO COILS

You may get half of the potential of an SSG if you use generator coils,
but who uses and shows generator coils on their bike wheel? Almost
nobody.

So the answer is yes it will work based on my runs the charging is equal
but then I never build an SSSG. An SSG can be seen (Many of them) on
youtube self oscillating and charging just as well as when the wheel turns.

John B. gave us all the answer years ago he said that the magnets only
trigger the firing of the circuit unless you are using generator coils then
the magnets play another roll.

However that was said for educational purposes when trying to illustrate
the basic operation of the SSG, the rest of the story is that those magnets
do add to the equation however complicated the expression may unfold.

The COP value in hidden in the machines ability to make batteries high
density vessels. This brings the circuit efficiency up from 85% on up to
possible as high as COP 1.1 ? some say 1.2 COP and so on down the line.

I have heard that the COP is 12 if you hook up $10,000 worth of batteries
and that may be true if that person is waiting 2 weeks to get the charge
completed.

So we hear many wild stories don't we, reality is somewhere in between.
The truth is for a beginner the SSG and SSG convert all batteries into higher
density units, this is the magic.

Other than that in the right now do it now see right now how much is it
measurement both the SSG and the SSSG have a circuit efficiency of
only 85%. The thing I like about these old fashion striped down oscillators
is that they have no suppression and the steer in the circuit is not rigid.

The flip flop action of this simple circuit that does not cancel ringing can
run and charge it's own battery with the right tuning. The heel turns for
free or is extra. Throw a fan on that booger and take a break.

So the answer is that using the SG oscillator has many possibilities, Peter
and John both comment in passing that the SSSG oscillators can be tuned
to perform high COP. John has stated over and over that we don't have to
resort to swinging magnets to get the same results.

Sharp pulses, fast recovery diodes and the list go on. I don't have all of the
answers yet circuits like these that do not cut out the ring have great
flexibility in that the energy can be permitted to go toward the source or
reflect and it can also be directed to another low impedance.

YOU NEED A BIGGER COIL WITH MORE STRANDS

Yes the larger coil with more mass will show you new things. All we can
do is experiment. The circuit will work with the pre-designed twisted
wire coil. I have short ones at 70ft using 26awg that are nothing more
than convertors of steroids.
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Old 08-31-2016, 12:20 AM
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Hi mike, thanks for sharing, yes you bring up good points, the ringing at the right tuning is very helpful.
And i will be thinking about building a multi-strand coil soon.
I meant to say in previous post, i am recharging the 24 volt input batteries in series, because i feel the higher voltage kick back of the coil, will charge them better or more efficiently, in that configuration.
And believe me, that kick back is no kitten, it caught me a few times already, it gives a nasty jolt.
So far it does seem to be recharging better, off the 3rd charge battery, not using any 4th battery like in previous circuit drawing.
I ran 2 cycles already, running split positive into 3rd charge battery while lighting led bulbs for an hour.
Then, i recharge the series input batteries for 30 minutes, solely with the flyback.
The resting voltages are identical so far, after these 2 cycles, we shall see how long that continues.
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Old 09-02-2016, 03:32 AM
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Hi all, ok i have diverged a bit with my experiments.
I am testing out a similar idea of gadgetmalls oscillator circuit.
I am also charging the two 12 volt batteries in parallel, since his ultra capacitor or boost cap., is very low resistance.
The idea being, just like gadgetmall or even turion, to be able to charge up a large battery bank, using a smaller capacity input battery.
The diode is off the collector, same as gadgetmalls circuit and into the positive of the battery bank, negatives are then connected.
This does draw more current, compared to batteries across the coil with diode, though it charges faster and actually runs the circuit much cooler, the transistor heat sink is always cool, abnormally cool if you ask me, even if it's warm in the room.
I used a 100 nano-farad capacitor across the 5 kohm base resistor, this raised the frequency of the oscillator quite a bit and made the circuit charge faster and cooler, possibly more efficient.
In essence, it is still splitting the positives in a way.
The coil spike is added to the voltage of the input battery, creating a higher potential difference, probably not unlike a boost converter, though a much more efficient one.
So far, the single 13 amp-hour tractor battery is charging the 2 parallel batteries up to 85 percent full, from somewhere around 65 percent.
The input battery is a little above 80 percent full still, starting at almost full.
So far, i get the feeling, that if i had 12 of these in parallel, in my charge battery bank, like turion has shown, the results would be even more interesting.
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Old 09-03-2016, 05:16 AM
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Hey Sky
Great experimenting on the new Osc. I looked all over for a roll of wire
for you that was just sitting around to purchased but the Tesla Charger
website has discontinued the ENERGIZES completely.

This site has a clearance coil 4 sale and somewhere on EBAY I saw one
also. I don't even know where to buy the 8 channel circuits either so
I will just keep looking.

For now you can hit the button here and get what you need.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bedini-Circuit-Electric-Magnetic-Levitation-Perpetual-Motion-Machine-/172285051192?hash=item281cfd4138:g:VvsAAOSw-YVXl7PA

http://www.r-charge.net/100-Feet-Parallel-Coils-of-8-18-magnet-wire_p_135.html

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Old 09-04-2016, 04:14 AM
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Hi mike, thanks for the kind words and information.
I have enough wire laying around here, i should be able to make a multi-strand coil with no problem.
Is it suggested to twist the wires or can i just wind them as close as possible together.

I'm still charging the parallel batteries, i had to lower the base resistance to 2.5 kohm, to help get the batteries fully charged, plus been busy, so have not had the oscillator going as much as i would like.
I will say this, i could swear it seems like the heat sink gets cooler the the touch, as the circuit runs, i would need a laser infra-red meter to check it though.
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Old 09-04-2016, 11:30 PM
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Hi all, here is a circuit diagram of the system i am testing at the moment.
The single 12 volt, 13 amp hour, tractor battery has fully charged the 2 parallel, identical batteries.
Parallel batteries are resting at 12.69 volts.
Single battery is resting at 12.19 volts.
I will now be reversing the circuit and use the 2 parallel batteries to charge the single battery.
This way, we can see how well the parallel batteries charged and what kind of capacity is left in the parallel batteries, after the single battery is fully charged again.
All comments or questions are much appreciated.
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:27 PM
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Hi all, here is the latest variation of split positive circuit i am testing.
It does seem promising.
Though i am using an 8 cell nimh pack in the coil loop position, as i don't have another 12 volt lead acid at the moment.
This way i can get the light i desire and charge a battery.
If it were a matching 12 volt battery, it could be swapped into rotation, or it could power an oscillator to charge any of the 3 batteries that might need some help.
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Hi mike, thanks for sharing.
The axial flat plate sounds interesting, i made an air core coil axial motor, with 2 magnet rotors on each side previously.
That motor was very efficient, maybe it would be good as a generator.

I made a drawing of the circuit i am testing now, it is based on the circuit you shared from daves guidance.
Though the charge battery is climbing way too fast, being fully charged already.
Another boost converter connected to charge battery back to series batteries, as mat and dave have shown might be needed.
Just not sure if discharging and charging the series primaries is good for them or not.
peace love light

Edit: revised circuit, removed base capacitor and added diode off collector, this reduced heat in transistor, more bifilar turns may be needed, depending on amp rating of transistor, to prevent excess heating.


Hello Sky. Longest time.
Powered by you and Jasnot, I came up with new way to harvest and re-energised B.E.M.F in a lensless way.

I utilised a readymade circuit meant harvest electricity from the Air and Ground.
The circuit have 4 diodes, 2 Polarised and Non Polarised caps each.

I used 555 pulse generator to switch the coil at 25V input and obtained up to 1000V.

The lezless extraction goes by connecting the Hot of the B.E.M.F to the Antenna inlet of the circuit and the COM or negative to the Ground inlet.

After that I tune the coil down to the smallest input wattage to achieve the hiest resonance.

Without the atificial B.E.M.F Negative, the output current of the Coil is at 40mA but with it, I will Obtain 1000V at 70mA ( at 10W input) which I use to charge 900V 3500uf cap bank in a Jiffy. Now, I am having problem utilising that stored energy.

For the Circuit not to show lenz power extraction, you must switch the Back E.M.F. I discovered this when I directly connect a battery to the output and the coil draw more extremely current. But when I connect one energy saving bulb to the negative of the battery and the negative of the b.e.m.f output, the coil input wattage dropped back to 10W. Also when I connect, a brush motor, the input Wattage remains the same.

I tried using an 800V G.D.T to harvest the energy from 900V 3.5Kuf cap but the thing is not firing as Pump" .

Howelse do you thick I can utilise the energy Sky?

NOTE: I am not trained in electronics I am only trying to solve a sever problem of mine.

Jasnot in one of his circuits named "Super Electron Pump" used and S.C.R and GDT to discharge a 330uf cap into a tepdown transformer.

Would that be useful to me too?
How can I correctly connect the said SCR to a G.D.T to discharge my DC cap bank into a tranformer too?

What parameter would I need to consider before buying the specific S.C.R?
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