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Old 06-07-2019, 09:31 PM
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Do the resins form chains within the mixture itself after being
fully mixed and cured?
If not, would nylon types of material work for strength?
I will be back later to talk about this. The tape machines look like a
foundry where white hot metal is melted and rolled out under pressure.

Ferrite are molded at 2500 degrees using HT epoxies. Epoxies that an
exhaust manifold is made from. They are only a little more money for
these epoxies but you need heat and a mold that can withstand the
process. 3% binder
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SEE FOR YOURSELVES HOW METAL OF THIS TYPE IS PROPERLY FORMED

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Old 06-07-2019, 11:57 PM
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Hi all, the bailing wire cores, painted with enamel, etc. seem to not retain the magnetism in the core.
Not sure what is added to the iron bailing wire, though when cut up in straight pieces and made into a core, it seems to not retain any magnetic flux at all.
Not sure how fast it actually releases the flux, compared to typical silicon steel cores.
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Old 06-08-2019, 12:51 AM
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I didnít plan to stabilize it at all. Just melt and
pour into molds to TRY it as a stand alone core material. .......... but
thatís what experimenting is all about.

Any info on the use of Bismuth so I can understand the reason for
having it would be deeply appreciated. I see levitation on youtube
but that can't be why (to lighten the rig) you would put this in
Ferrite.

Me no savvy on it's purpose or even a guess what effects it may have.

I like chemistry of all kinds.

Don't be afraid to react your dust with the few commonly used caustics
such as sodium hydroxide or potassium. The few minutes it takes to
dry it out is nominal.

Sulfuric, Boric, Hydrochloric and caustics. The benefits are also reduced
particle size so your compound will not only fit more tightly mechanically
but will connect your dust in a way electrically, magnetically and ionically
as per the data.

We have the advantage of seeing the basics all mapped out for us. If
you have time

This pathway of reacting dust is used for soft low temp Ferrite composites.
The goal is to get the dust particulate to do the same job for less.

I did not know you were capable of melting metal dust or set up for that.




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Old 06-08-2019, 03:07 AM
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Hi all, the bailing wire cores, painted with enamel, etc. seem to not retain the magnetism in the core.
Not sure what is added to the iron bailing wire, though when cut up in straight pieces and made into a core, it seems to not retain any magnetic flux at all.
Not sure how fast it actually releases the flux, compared to typical silicon steel cores.
peace love light
Good to know, makes sense because bailing wire is very very thin
say 40 thousandths? Then it is separated by the enamel. great
experimenting.

I thought about making "C" cores that way, just roll up some fine wire
and cut a notch out for my magnet. Maybe iron wire can be purchased
with an enamel coating? Humm....
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So in a sense the material implodes upon itself and condenses, like a singularly.
Do they add Preparation H???
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Old 06-09-2019, 05:23 AM
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"C" core bobbin construction project.

Constructing and reconstructing, creating and recreating ideas to
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Completed "C" core made of grain oriented material and bobbin. Excellent for longevity, superior mechanical design.




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Hi bromikey, thanks for sharing, very nice work so far.

Yes, the multifilar coil needs strong coil bobbin for sure.

I bet a core like that could be made from the bailing wire also
Would need some sort of jig to wind the shape around and then it can be epoxied together into a solid core piece.
The jig could even be wood and then the core could be secured to the wood jig, then the coil/core assembly can be secured at the wood jig.

Keep up the good work, I watch with anticipation.
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I guess because the "3 battery generating system" thread no longer exists
I will post our setup results here for this years school project.

Jordan not only has a 3 battery setup but also our Madmack setup and now
we are getting there on the "Basic Free Energy Device" which is nothing
more than a rotor with magnets with special "speed up under load" coils.

Of course that phrase will slip right past most of you because you may
have not yet realized that all generator coils on the markets today slow
down the magnet wheel or rotor when power is drawn off. The more power
that is demanded the the slower so raw energy is dumped straight into the
shaft to maintain RPM.

That is the opposite of these Tesla coils from one of his many patents. In
N.Tesla's patent "Coils for electromagnets" he tells us that this form of
coil will not bog down as power is drawn. Unless you get this statement
you can not understand this project.

Anyway we are making progress and school is in session. We home school
our children, it is a big job yet worth it when you consider what
Common core teaches plus the fact evolution, global warming, Alien
abductions and more stupidity is rammed down our throats. Teaching
children it is fine to get gender reassignment surgery. Johnny now wears
a skirt when not one girl does that.
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Old 09-10-2019, 10:16 PM
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I guess because the "3 battery generating system" thread no longer exists
I will post our setup results here for this years school project.

Jordan not only has a 3 battery setup but also our Madmack setup and now
we are getting there on the "Basic Free Energy Device" which is nothing
more than a rotor with magnets with special "speed up under load" coils.

Of course that phrase will slip right past most of you because you may
have not yet realized that all generator coils on the markets today slow
down the magnet wheel or rotor when power is drawn off. The more power
that is demanded the the slower so raw energy is dumped straight into the
shaft to maintain RPM.

That is the opposite of these Tesla coils from one of his many patents. In
N.Tesla's patent "Coils for electromagnets" he tells us that this form of
coil will not bog down as power is drawn. Unless you get this statement
you can not understand this project.

Anyway we are making progress and school is in session. We home school
our children, it is a big job yet worth it when you consider what
Common core teaches plus the fact evolution, global warming, Alien
abductions and more stupidity is rammed down our throats. Teaching
children it is fine to get gender reassignment surgery. Johnny now wears
a skirt when not one girl does that.
This weeks school project is experimental. MadMack wheel or rotor and
testing on pounds of lock rotor force, magnet to cores. Gaps and shield
changes. Data coming.
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Old 09-11-2019, 09:52 AM
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Two days of tests show many things. The first thing we found out
was that each measurement continued to change as we made more
and more tests. It was approx. 1.1lb of force to get the magnet to
release. After lunch it went to 1.2lbs of force and by dinner was 1.5lbs
of force so we thought it must be the moon came out and ruined
all our measurements, right? Wrong, the core material of the coil, slowly
became magnetized. lesson number one, never assume that factory
made solenoid coils have good core material in them. Especially since
this coil is for AC power. Good core material that won't keep altering the
results is a must.

However there is more to report. We were able to vary the shielding
from .85lbs to 1.2lbs and while the unshielded magnet need 1" travel
distance away from the core to .05lb the shielded magnet only needed
3/4" distance away from the core to be at .05lb.

We know that cogging can be greatly reduced if needed while enjoying
the mechanical benefits of using the shields as holding fixtures and the
limited protection it gives against flying ceramic.

Jordan and I have some good core material and will report back with
our findings. Thank you for listening and God Bless.


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Old 09-12-2019, 02:36 AM
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Step By Step Experimenting

Today Jordan replace the coil with it's magnetic failure with a standard
transformer material and this time covers the entire area of the magnets
face.

We have tired everything to get this new core to become magnetized
with no results. The old coil we just pulled is still magnetic after 24hrs.

Many tests of 5 runs reveal shielded pull at 1.85lbs initially and after
turning the rotor went as high as 2.05lbs to release the locked magnet.

It seems as core interact with magnets some temporary magnetic transfer
appears but will disappear when the process is stopped giving a slight
increase in pull force.

The unshielded was 1.5lbs until interaction for a short period of time
increased to 1.7lbs and at no time did the core become magnetic.

next will be tests of magnets to core material face to face pulling
straight away from each other. This will be done from a gap of 1/16"
then pull force measurement as separation occurs.

Shielded and unshielded

All and all I would have to say state of the art transformer core material
exhibits a much more stable response as might be expected. This
translates to a greater efficiency due to heat issues that would develop.

Heat generated is power lost.
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Did 1 test unshielded 50lb square magnets 1" long by 1/2" X 1/2"
at 1/16" gap came out to 5.36 lbs pull force is all.
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Did 1 test unshielded 50lb square magnets 1" long by 1/2" X 1/2"
at 1/16" gap came out to 5.36 lbs pull force is all.
Here is today's data for pull force at 1/16" gap using 50lb magnets.
In the picture you can see the values. The shielded magnets are for
1/8th" magnet face showing and also 1/4" for this 1" long magnet.

The peripheral pulling power is still the same as it was. We also using
a much smaller magnet for our repulsion cancelling experiments but
will need an even less powerful one. I have them.

These so called 50lb magnets only offer 11.5lbs of pull force for my
core material, metal or to metal, without the gap. I'll have to go back
and look, maybe they are suppose to be 40lb magnets.




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The block magnets I am using are 30lb and are weak ones.
It is important to note that pull force measurements offered by
suppliers is way higher than when used with core material in
motors or generators and here is why.With my cores block I max
out at 11.6lbs metal to magnet. So with gap is 5lbs


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Your latest observation is exactly why I said to go with cylinder magnets on the rotor that are the same diameter as the coil core, or smaller, but as LONG as you can get them. This gives you a MUCH thicker rotor, which is more stable. It is the MASS of the magnet that provides the attraction. And the tighter you can focus it the better, within the parameters of your build.
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Your latest observation is exactly why I said....


...... the tighter you can focus it the better......,.
Sounds like you made an improvement and can see new results. I am
working on shielding of the small repulsion magnet. This will give me the
smoother transition I am hoping for by matching the the approach and
departure flux density to both sides. Adjustable of course on the fly.
How is your new rotor performing? Or maybe you have not used it just yet.

It should be interesting. If this small dia rotor doesn't do well I have plans
to use this same platform using bigger magnets and a larger rotor.

Also can make the the width larger down the road as needed. The tiny
cylinder repulsion magnet is just enough at TDC but the peripheral
fields on either side of TDC are much much much stronger than the
attraction to core side. Gotta think.
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