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Old 06-07-2019, 09:31 PM
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Do the resins form chains within the mixture itself after being
fully mixed and cured?
If not, would nylon types of material work for strength?
I will be back later to talk about this. The tape machines look like a
foundry where white hot metal is melted and rolled out under pressure.

Ferrite are molded at 2500 degrees using HT epoxies. Epoxies that an
exhaust manifold is made from. They are only a little more money for
these epoxies but you need heat and a mold that can withstand the
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SEE FOR YOURSELVES HOW METAL OF THIS TYPE IS PROPERLY FORMED

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Hi all, the bailing wire cores, painted with enamel, etc. seem to not retain the magnetism in the core.
Not sure what is added to the iron bailing wire, though when cut up in straight pieces and made into a core, it seems to not retain any magnetic flux at all.
Not sure how fast it actually releases the flux, compared to typical silicon steel cores.
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I didnít plan to stabilize it at all. Just melt and
pour into molds to TRY it as a stand alone core material. .......... but
thatís what experimenting is all about.

Any info on the use of Bismuth so I can understand the reason for
having it would be deeply appreciated. I see levitation on youtube
but that can't be why (to lighten the rig) you would put this in
Ferrite.

Me no savvy on it's purpose or even a guess what effects it may have.

I like chemistry of all kinds.

Don't be afraid to react your dust with the few commonly used caustics
such as sodium hydroxide or potassium. The few minutes it takes to
dry it out is nominal.

Sulfuric, Boric, Hydrochloric and caustics. The benefits are also reduced
particle size so your compound will not only fit more tightly mechanically
but will connect your dust in a way electrically, magnetically and ionically
as per the data.

We have the advantage of seeing the basics all mapped out for us. If
you have time

This pathway of reacting dust is used for soft low temp Ferrite composites.
The goal is to get the dust particulate to do the same job for less.

I did not know you were capable of melting metal dust or set up for that.




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Hi all, the bailing wire cores, painted with enamel, etc. seem to not retain the magnetism in the core.
Not sure what is added to the iron bailing wire, though when cut up in straight pieces and made into a core, it seems to not retain any magnetic flux at all.
Not sure how fast it actually releases the flux, compared to typical silicon steel cores.
peace love light
Good to know, makes sense because bailing wire is very very thin
say 40 thousandths? Then it is separated by the enamel. great
experimenting.

I thought about making "C" cores that way, just roll up some fine wire
and cut a notch out for my magnet. Maybe iron wire can be purchased
with an enamel coating? Humm....
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So in a sense the material implodes upon itself and condenses, like a singularly.
Do they add Preparation H???
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"C" core bobbin construction project.

Constructing and reconstructing, creating and recreating ideas to
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Completed "C" core made of grain oriented material and bobbin. Excellent for longevity, superior mechanical design.




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Hi bromikey, thanks for sharing, very nice work so far.

Yes, the multifilar coil needs strong coil bobbin for sure.

I bet a core like that could be made from the bailing wire also
Would need some sort of jig to wind the shape around and then it can be epoxied together into a solid core piece.
The jig could even be wood and then the core could be secured to the wood jig, then the coil/core assembly can be secured at the wood jig.

Keep up the good work, I watch with anticipation.
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I guess because the "3 battery generating system" thread no longer exists
I will post our setup results here for this years school project.

Jordan not only has a 3 battery setup but also our Madmack setup and now
we are getting there on the "Basic Free Energy Device" which is nothing
more than a rotor with magnets with special "speed up under load" coils.

Of course that phrase will slip right past most of you because you may
have not yet realized that all generator coils on the markets today slow
down the magnet wheel or rotor when power is drawn off. The more power
that is demanded the the slower so raw energy is dumped straight into the
shaft to maintain RPM.

That is the opposite of these Tesla coils from one of his many patents. In
N.Tesla's patent "Coils for electromagnets" he tells us that this form of
coil will not bog down as power is drawn. Unless you get this statement
you can not understand this project.

Anyway we are making progress and school is in session. We home school
our children, it is a big job yet worth it when you consider what
Common core teaches plus the fact evolution, global warming, Alien
abductions and more stupidity is rammed down our throats. Teaching
children it is fine to get gender reassignment surgery. Johnny now wears
a skirt when not one girl does that.
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I guess because the "3 battery generating system" thread no longer exists
I will post our setup results here for this years school project.

Jordan not only has a 3 battery setup but also our Madmack setup and now
we are getting there on the "Basic Free Energy Device" which is nothing
more than a rotor with magnets with special "speed up under load" coils.

Of course that phrase will slip right past most of you because you may
have not yet realized that all generator coils on the markets today slow
down the magnet wheel or rotor when power is drawn off. The more power
that is demanded the the slower so raw energy is dumped straight into the
shaft to maintain RPM.

That is the opposite of these Tesla coils from one of his many patents. In
N.Tesla's patent "Coils for electromagnets" he tells us that this form of
coil will not bog down as power is drawn. Unless you get this statement
you can not understand this project.

Anyway we are making progress and school is in session. We home school
our children, it is a big job yet worth it when you consider what
Common core teaches plus the fact evolution, global warming, Alien
abductions and more stupidity is rammed down our throats. Teaching
children it is fine to get gender reassignment surgery. Johnny now wears
a skirt when not one girl does that.
This weeks school project is experimental. MadMack wheel or rotor and
testing on pounds of lock rotor force, magnet to cores. Gaps and shield
changes. Data coming.
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Two days of tests show many things. The first thing we found out
was that each measurement continued to change as we made more
and more tests. It was approx. 1.1lb of force to get the magnet to
release. After lunch it went to 1.2lbs of force and by dinner was 1.5lbs
of force so we thought it must be the moon came out and ruined
all our measurements, right? Wrong, the core material of the coil, slowly
became magnetized. lesson number one, never assume that factory
made solenoid coils have good core material in them. Especially since
this coil is for AC power. Good core material that won't keep altering the
results is a must.

However there is more to report. We were able to vary the shielding
from .85lbs to 1.2lbs and while the unshielded magnet need 1" travel
distance away from the core to .05lb the shielded magnet only needed
3/4" distance away from the core to be at .05lb.

We know that cogging can be greatly reduced if needed while enjoying
the mechanical benefits of using the shields as holding fixtures and the
limited protection it gives against flying ceramic.

Jordan and I have some good core material and will report back with
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Step By Step Experimenting

Today Jordan replace the coil with it's magnetic failure with a standard
transformer material and this time covers the entire area of the magnets
face.

We have tired everything to get this new core to become magnetized
with no results. The old coil we just pulled is still magnetic after 24hrs.

Many tests of 5 runs reveal shielded pull at 1.85lbs initially and after
turning the rotor went as high as 2.05lbs to release the locked magnet.

It seems as core interact with magnets some temporary magnetic transfer
appears but will disappear when the process is stopped giving a slight
increase in pull force.

The unshielded was 1.5lbs until interaction for a short period of time
increased to 1.7lbs and at no time did the core become magnetic.

next will be tests of magnets to core material face to face pulling
straight away from each other. This will be done from a gap of 1/16"
then pull force measurement as separation occurs.

Shielded and unshielded

All and all I would have to say state of the art transformer core material
exhibits a much more stable response as might be expected. This
translates to a greater efficiency due to heat issues that would develop.

Heat generated is power lost.
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Did 1 test unshielded 50lb square magnets 1" long by 1/2" X 1/2"
at 1/16" gap came out to 5.36 lbs pull force is all.
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Did 1 test unshielded 50lb square magnets 1" long by 1/2" X 1/2"
at 1/16" gap came out to 5.36 lbs pull force is all.
Here is today's data for pull force at 1/16" gap using 50lb magnets.
In the picture you can see the values. The shielded magnets are for
1/8th" magnet face showing and also 1/4" for this 1" long magnet.

The peripheral pulling power is still the same as it was. We also using
a much smaller magnet for our repulsion cancelling experiments but
will need an even less powerful one. I have them.

These so called 50lb magnets only offer 11.5lbs of pull force for my
core material, metal or to metal, without the gap. I'll have to go back
and look, maybe they are suppose to be 40lb magnets.




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The block magnets I am using are 30lb and are weak ones.
It is important to note that pull force measurements offered by
suppliers is way higher than when used with core material in
motors or generators and here is why.With my cores block I max
out at 11.6lbs metal to magnet. So with gap is 5lbs


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Your latest observation is exactly why I said to go with cylinder magnets on the rotor that are the same diameter as the coil core, or smaller, but as LONG as you can get them. This gives you a MUCH thicker rotor, which is more stable. It is the MASS of the magnet that provides the attraction. And the tighter you can focus it the better, within the parameters of your build.
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Your latest observation is exactly why I said....


...... the tighter you can focus it the better......,.
Sounds like you made an improvement and can see new results. I am
working on shielding of the small repulsion magnet. This will give me the
smoother transition I am hoping for by matching the the approach and
departure flux density to both sides. Adjustable of course on the fly.
How is your new rotor performing? Or maybe you have not used it just yet.

It should be interesting. If this small dia rotor doesn't do well I have plans
to use this same platform using bigger magnets and a larger rotor.

Also can make the the width larger down the road as needed. The tiny
cylinder repulsion magnet is just enough at TDC but the peripheral
fields on either side of TDC are much much much stronger than the
attraction to core side. Gotta think.
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At the end I say it is LOOSER then I said WAY LOOSER. That's my
favorite HILLBILLY jargon.


More video demo's coming. In this video without the opposition magnet
the meter registered a whopping .8 lbs to break the lock. With the
opposing magnet in place the force to break the lock is .2lbs

This next video we are getting it down to .1 lbs

That's 8X less energy required to over come the drag.
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Here we have it
down to .04 from .8lbs this is a 20X reduction. Also I might add that on the
stop watch the number of magnet passes per 10 seconds without the
opposition magnet running on a controlled voltage of 14.7vdc is 24.

With the opposing magnet in place where the lock is broken at 20X less
the number of times that a magnet passes the core block increases to 31.

The greater number represents a reduced drag and lowering of amp
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To understand "splitting the Positive" one needs to know just what Positive and Negative is...

Most will say Positive comes from the Positive of the Battery Terminal and similarly the Negative from the Negative Terminal.

But even at the Electric Universe Forum, they know NOT what electricity is...
And it AINT electrons.

Many have had to make the Trek to Down Under Oz Outback to watch fresh runny concrete pumped through a Ferrite Ring Magnet and exit as pure fresh water... Transmutation (Electro-magnetically restructuring) at it Finest. It is also done with a NEGATIVE NORTH Pole Center Field of an electric 12V DC car battery powering a Joecell too. Same cell as in the water into oil, only the electrodes are reversed.
see..... https://www.magneticwaterscience.com/?page_id=46 use the password wizzzard777

So anything that can be done with the Electric Cell can be done with the In-Line Magnetic Cell too.

Positive is SOUTH POLE Energy. Negative is North Pole Energy.

So how does one split it? Electricity is a Wave Form. It has FOUR Phases.

Imagine the Sine Wave with a high and a low dip in the wave. At the half way points where the SPLIT Phase exists as in there are 4 POLES to EVERY Magnet and each of the 4 phases or the two splits plus the 2 poles will give a different result in an Electric Cell.

A Car Battery is a CELL. Try this experiment to understand the USAGE of the Split Phases. Leave the Lights on in the car. Flatten the Battery. Try starting the car to make sure the battery is flat.
THEN take the lead off the battery (Not the Ground lead) and place a COIL between the battery terminal and the lead making a circuit. Start your car on the OTHER HALF of the Battery. Until you do this one just hasnt a clue of the 4 phases of MAGNETIC CURRENT. or Neg Neg Neg Pos Pos Neg Pos Pos


Now I know you will have trouble with this Mike, but with some appropriate questions its not hard to learn...

One might find it easy to understand this 4 Phases of Electricity by studying Light. Tesla said "Everything is the Light" that means no electrons or protons or even elements.... just Light... Now Keshe whom I dislike immensely only because he does CULT his science and makes it diffiCULT to understand but his book The Structure of Light does state there are OTHER Poles around the Structure of Light Bar magnet. This is a good place to start to understand what splitting of the Fields or Poles or what we term Positive and Negative.
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To understand "splitting the Positive" one needs to know just what Positive and Negative is...

Most will say Positive comes from the Positive of the Battery Terminal and similarly the Negative from the Negative Terminal.

But even at the Electric Universe Forum, they know NOT what electricity is...
And it AINT electrons.

Many have had to make the Trek to Down Under Oz Outback to watch fresh runny concrete pumped through a Ferrite Ring Magnet and exit as pure fresh water... Transmutation (Electro-magnetically restructuring) at it Finest. It is also done with a NEGATIVE NORTH Pole Center Field of an electric 12V DC car battery powering a Joecell too. Same cell as in the water into oil, only the electrodes are reversed.
see..... https://www.magneticwaterscience.com/?page_id=46 use the password wizzzard777

So anything that can be done with the Electric Cell can be done with the In-Line Magnetic Cell too.

Positive is SOUTH POLE Energy. Negative is North Pole Energy.

So how does one split it? Electricity is a Wave Form. It has FOUR Phases.

Imagine the Sine Wave with a high and a low dip in the wave. At the half way points where the SPLIT Phase exists as in there are 4 POLES to EVERY Magnet and each of the 4 phases or the two splits plus the 2 poles will give a different result in an Electric Cell.

A Car Battery is a CELL. Try this experiment to understand the USAGE of the Split Phases. Leave the Lights on in the car. Flatten the Battery. Try starting the car to make sure the battery is flat.
THEN take the lead off the battery (Not the Ground lead) and place a COIL between the battery terminal and the lead making a circuit. Start your car on the OTHER HALF of the Battery. Until you do this one just hasnt a clue of the 4 phases of MAGNETIC CURRENT. or Neg Neg Neg Pos Pos Neg Pos Pos


Now I know you will have trouble with this Mike, but with some appropriate questions its not hard to learn...

One might find it easy to understand this 4 Phases of Electricity by studying Light. Tesla said "Everything is the Light" that means no electrons or protons or even elements.... just Light... Now Keshe whom I dislike immensely only because he does CULT his science and makes it diffiCULT to understand but his book The Structure of Light does state there are OTHER Poles around the Structure of Light Bar magnet. This is a good place to start to understand what splitting of the Fields or Poles or what we term Positive and Negative.
Thank you Merlynn I have no problem with your discourse here. Just
stick to hard science, I agree with you here to your surprise. Everything
you have said is good stuff, very refreshing.

Don't be overly concerned about the crack on the jaw, it's my way of
finding out who I'm dealing with. Now.

What should I do in experimental form to execute? Give me something
to try. I like talk too.

I guess you are a real man after all.
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Progress on magnetic cancellation.

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Looks good.

Once I get my big machine back together, I will show the motor running turning the rotor with no coils in place. Then with coils. Finally with neutralizing magnets in place. You can see that with the neutralizing magnets in place the amp draw is a BIT more than with just the rotor in place, but nowhere NEAR what it is with the coils and no neutralizing magnets. If I had the shielding in place it would do much better, and I also know you can get it dead on if you spend enough time. But just getting the amp draw way down is enough to prove the point.
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Hi all, good stuff bromikey, thanks for sharing.

Hi turion, do you know if placing neutralizing magnets at the back of a drive coil/core can cause any issues.
As I'm using that method on the heavy flywheel, bedini type motor/generator I'm working on still.
It seems to work very well, though will be testing air coils for the generator coils around rotor and drive coils will have the cores.
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Hi all, good stuff bromikey, thanks for sharing.

Hi turion, do you know if placing neutralizing magnets at the back of a drive coil/core can cause any issues.
As I'm using that method on the heavy flywheel, bedini type motor/generator I'm working on still.
It seems to work very well, though will be testing air coils for the generator coils around rotor and drive coils will have the cores.
peace love light
Introducing strong magnetic flux to any core and coil will alter it's response
curve, you know that cause you are good with electronics. A strong
magnet stuck to any core material will magnetize it that might cause
heat due to saturation. Not sure why and what you are doing there,
better show us. You know what they say? A picture is worth a thousand
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Looks good.

Once I get my big machine back together, I will show the motor running..

If I had the shielding in place it would do much better,

and I also know you can get it dead on if you spend enough time.

Yes it is amazing how much difference it makes having the adjustable
shielding so a better balance can be achieved. Getting the travel distance
matched exactly for the going and coming of the poles at TDC for
both attraction and repulsion will take some doing.

If one set of poles is not bad enough when 12 sets are in place will be
harder especially when magnetic fields vary so much from magnet to
magnet.

It may be possible to shield in other ways redirecting the fields to suit.
For instance having shields on the rotor magnets is a test I want to make.
From there other shielding experiments could follow.
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Hi bromikey, still working on it, when It comes along further, I'll share it.
In the meantime, was thinking about the multifilar, lenz reduction coils, shouldn't it be possible to create a solid state version, for starters, just place a coil in front of another coil, one is powered with adjustable ac or dc pulses and the other coil/core is the induction multifilar coil/core.
Getting the right frequencies would be easy then and just tune it until our input stays the same, while taking power from the induction coil.
Why hasn't anyone talked about doing this.

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Hey Sky

i am sure there are many ways to get new ideas to produce extra, yes I
have and others have also. See Thane Heins "Bi Toroid" it uses
5X the amount of wire just like our coils for rotors with magnets.

A standard MOT primary 150-180ft of wire now multiple by 5 and what
do you get? Yes close to 1000 ft. The Bi Toroid uses the delay like
the generator coils use the delay also.

Now you need to look more at power factor. Another way was created
by Bill Alek by turning up the AC hz to 3000. Using metglas he builds
self charging boxes for his 3 wheel trikes. It looks like he was bought off
tho. Look up "phase congregate" there he explains.

Thane used 60hz which shows the principle but HF AC speeds up output
production. He uses a pc controlled sine wave oscillator then runs
that to an audio amplifier then to his transformer.
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Potential Difference

For about 12 years now I have been saying that understanding how to use the potential difference was absolutely the key to free energy. The more time goes by and the more research that is done, the more dramatic the results become. Because of BS from people on this forum we are no longer sharing our work, but that doesnít mean we havenít continued. Some day you will all look back at this and think ďIf I had only listened.Ē

I cannot emphasize strongly enough how incredibly important the simple potential difference circuit is. You need to build it. You need to truly understand how it works, and then you need to start thinking outside the box to modify it and, most importantly, apply it. None of it is rocket science.

Bro Mikey, you did great work showing that there are no gains in the circuit running a light as a load between batteries. For two reasons. No pulse and the voltage hitting the battery is not high enough to overcome the impedance to charging in the battery. Too much wasted energy. The modified Matt motor and the boost module solve those problems and you get the mechanical work of the motor for free. Which is where the generator comes into play. You can prove the worth of the system with only a coil or two if you remember ONE thing. The output from the coil is a high voltage source, and you should run it THROUGH the load back to the battery. Always, always, always run your loads on a potential difference. You need that engraved on your brain. Boost the voltage, Buck the voltage, rectify the voltage. LEARN what is possible.
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