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Old 05-14-2019, 02:15 AM
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Splitting the positive with regenerative acceleration will be a great
back up. Contests.

https://contest.techbriefs.com/2018/entries/automotive-transportation/8864



proof is in the pudding and the video. here is one inventor that actually has a demonstration

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Eat all of it mainard

If you don't understand? Replay!!

Regenerative Acceleration generator that motors at the same time.

Go figure, system toggles between motor and generator.

Shocky circuit controller.Call "SHOCK-IT" I think.




Zed T inductive reactance based on impedance at a given frequency



Eat now or throw in.



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Salient Pole Motor Generator

https://www.electricaleasy.com/2014/03/salient-pole-rotor-vs-non-salient-pole.html

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45-70 percent load delay for speed up under load coils.

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Hi bromikey, thanks for sharing.

Yup, it doesn't get much clearer than that.

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Yup, it doesn't get much clearer than that.
Exactly, now I gotta figure out what a circuit like that looks like. I always
say "One leg at a time" meaning the other guy put his pants on one leg
at a time, Soooo I guess I can figure it out too.

Here is how I have cut my "E" cores into "C" cores.


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Hi Dave,

I get "Video unavailable" message when I click on your video link. Can you help?

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Hope that fixed it.


Thanks!
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https://youtu.be/MSMA21VfEIk

The gain you get as the rotor magnet is attracted when it approaches the coil equals the loss you get as it is also attracted as it leaves. But, and this is a J.Lo sized BUTT. The instant the two are aligned, there is an additional force that is required to overcome this moment of magnetic "lock". Don't believe me? Spin a rotor and watch how long it freewheels. Now introduce a coil and spin it the same way. It will slow considerably faster. If the gains equaled the loss with NO OTHER INTERACTION, there would be NO slowing of the rotor. But there is. And that instant of "lock" is when it occurs. When the two magnets are aligned, the greatest moment of repulsion is ALSO when they are in perfect alignment.
Great teaching on the subject, you are right, I have a long way to go.
I am not responding to you about your post today, this will take time to
sink it. However I will say I didn't think of the positive and negative areas
of the magnet to core VS magnet to magnet. Wow that shows me how
far behind I am.

This brings me to my tests with moving the repulsing magnet over and
also angling it. When I did that my rotor went faster.

Thanks again Dave you have a big heart. I need this.

Do you think a 50 strand (or 48) same number of feet as a 3 strand
produces a higher power or lower? Or is it higher and lower voltages
that will appear?
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# of wires affects amperage
Length of wire affects voltage.

To answer your question, more wires in parallel means increased capacitance and therefore more output. But not in the way you may be thinking of output.

Capacity SEEMS to affect the length of the pulse of power output by the coil. It appears to be Loooooonger the more capacity is increased. That shortens the off time between pulses and changes the frequency. If that makes any sense.
Okay then that makes good sense. Longer pulses plus my rotor could spin
slower. Hum... BTW when I said I moved the repulsion magnet off center
and angled it around I got speed up or freed up something was not in the
presences of a speed up coil repelling at the same time.

Longer pulses and less off time means more power I think?
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# of wires affects amperage
Length of wire affects voltage.
So far we all got speed up at around 1000-1200 feet so I wonder
what would be the difference using the same 1000ft @ 20 strands vs
3 strands. Same everything else

1100ft seems to be a slight speed up or null point
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In answer to your question, here is the data I have already shared.
Given the same rotor turning at the same rpm...
ALL my coils have 3,000 feet of wire on them

The 3 strand coil with each strand at 1000' speeds up at 2800 rpm
The 12 strand coil with each strand 250' speed up at 1900 rpm
The 24 strand coil with each strand 125' speeds up at 1600 rpm SO FAR. It may go lower. Haven't had time to test it yet.

The more wire, the greater the capacitance and the LONGER it takes the coil to fill up so the SLOWER you can go and get the same result. Up to a point.

But remember, the slower you go the less your generator coils output.

Okay I didn't put it all together like that, good to have a leader 20 yrs
in front of me. I doubt I will ever get that much time to devout like you
did just doing the tests day after day, hour after hour, year in and year
out.

The dang cold weather came back after some 95 degree days and it is
kicking my backside good. PAIN is a dirty 4 letter word, it is 37 degrees.

Tornado Alley.

Anyway i gotta get my head on straight come fall to have something to
teach my son. It might be kind of nice for him to do speed up at say
1000 rpm's so I think 48 strands. later I will remove that wire and using
the same core go to 12 strands if we feel the rotor seems safe. Either way the rig is built to hold a shield.

10 rotor magnets so far but holes already cut to go up to 20. First stop
is N S N S since they were installed this way, although a 9/16" deep
well socket removes the nut so they can be reversed. It is the same
as the large one I built running at 3000 - 3500 rpm's at times.

Great collection of repeats is good since it takes people 20-30 times
hearing things to retain it so they will then recall it from memory.
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I have a question for this build

Your C core is for coil building?
Or is it to keep magnets from creating havoc?

With respect, if a person wound an enameled steel coil
without a core, like a pulse motor, but around the rotor,
how would this work for producing energy and projectile magnet protection?
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Okay, make your coil out of enamel
coated steel around your coil form.
What kind of magnetic field would this produce?
How would the resistance and capacitance of this metal work?
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Old 05-24-2019, 08:20 AM
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Donno never tried that.
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I trust in your abilities as a craftsman to
experiment with such a thing when you get around to it.
It already attracts magnets being steel.
Why not make a core less coil with out a large hole?
The coil acts as both and can most likely fit in a smaller space.
Thanks for the time.
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I trust in your abilities as a craftsman to
experiment with such a thing when you get around to it.
It already attracts magnets being steel.
Why not make a core less coil with out a large hole?
The coil acts as both and can most likely fit in a smaller space.
Thanks for the time.
All these things you suggest have been tested and run many times over.
Iron wire or no core is nothing new. What is your question? Even
Turion knows a little bit about core less generation.
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I would if I had the material. Thanks.
I do and have built other projects and I have a list as well.
All my suggestion was to a competent sounding
man and others who may want to try.
No insults from me.
Savvy?
Im a good guy.
So are you guys.
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Old 05-26-2019, 03:45 AM
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"C" Core from MOT laminates, self centering design stolen from
Thane Heins, the coil design is Dave Bowling and 3 battery setup
is someone else creation or split positive (John bedini)

The rest is me which is zero


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Over coming magnet cogging with a hand full of magnets.


http://flyer.thenetteam.net/3batterygen/mullerotor.jpg



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"Y" fork INDUCTION with magnetic cancellation

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Here is a look at the cross section of my coil bobbin and how
much wire it holds. I my case a 49 strand cable is a little over an 1/8"
square and will fit 15 times across and go 15 rows high. Here are the
obvious numbers known by every school boy when considering
decimals.

The first step is to find the average length for each turn and since the starting out length
is only 3" and at the center is 8" and the outside is 15" we say 3+8+15 /3 = 8" and so on.

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greetings, interesting the construction of the coil for Thane Heins coil,a friend question, how many rpm do you think is accelerated.
we wait for the next video with encouragement of your progress.
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greetings, interesting the construction of the coil for Thane Heins coil, we wait for the next video with encouragement of your progress.

Parallel wound multiple strands connected in series like one possible
might be 24 strands with each strand at 125 ft long then wind those
together all on the same spool. Later connect them in series as needed.

I did some spool or bobbin work tonight.

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Video of my findings as shown on a bench concerning homemade
coil core materials such as coat hanger bundles or random iron
slurry.

Scientifically engineered core material such as grain oriented does
not fail becoming magnetic for motors and transformers. Ferrite is
not iron slurry, Ferrite is scientifically mixed with other bonding
compounds, put under a 100 ton press and heated as you would
producing fine china.

Obviously I must be right since if it was that easy as to dump some
iron dust into a vat of resin industry would be full of examples. Epoxy
cores are being formed using iron but other compounds must be
present and as always tremendous pressure is required as well as
heat which is also generated by the force needed to press particulate
tight enough together to achieve success.

John Bedini showed us all his 50 ton press and how important it is to
press out all the the resins to where aggregate touches aggregate. All
binder (and that is what it is called) resins must be forced out of the
iron composite leaving a 3 percent doping and 97 percent composite.

John B. spent years putting minerals, rock grindings and more together
to form his proprietary transistors that can both interact electrically
and magnetically in a circuit.

Under certain circumstances generator rotor magnets that alternate
from North to South, cores are less susceptible to saturation.
Saturation means that the iron drinks in magnetism and does not
release it fast.

Raw iron has a poor responsive curve, it will work like running your
car engine on 30 percent diesel and 70 percent gas. It still works.

You are losing a large portion of your harvested energy.


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Old 06-07-2019, 09:37 AM
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What an awesome hydraulic vice love to have one. Let me show you
more specifically of what the definition of a Ferrite is, not just in the
broad sense of the idea most associate with iron oxide.

To make a specific Ferrite is to know the response curve you are
looking for and based on that you mix the proper metals with the
iron oxide.

Note: To combine your metal dust means fist a chemical reaction or
reduction that is dried back out to later bind with resin (3-5%)
Rust is not Ferrite.

BTW what you have stated about the relief holes in any mold is
right on all the way.

Casting dies are made in halves so the part may be removed. Take
a close look sometime at a flyback Ferrite the halves of the mold
are different one from another.


Check out this quote from Britannia




A ferrite is
formed by the reaction of ferric oxide (iron oxide or rust) with any
of a number of other metals, including magnesium, aluminum,
barium, manganese, copper, nickel, cobalt, or even iron itself.

A ferrite is usually described by the formula M(FexOy), where M
represents any metal that forms divalent bonds, such as any of the
elements mentioned earlier. Nickel ferrite, for instance, is NiFe2O4,
and manganese ferrite is MnFe2O4; both are spinel minerals. The
garnet mineral known as YIG, containing the rare-earth element
yttrium, has the formula Y3Fe5O12; it is used in microwave circuitry.

The most familiar ferrite, known since biblical times, is magnetite
(lodestone, or ferrous ferrite), Fe(Fe2O4).
Ferrites exhibit a form of magnetism called ferrimagnetism (q.v.),
which is distinguished from the ferromagnetism of such materials
as iron, cobalt, and nickel.

In ferrites the magnetic moments of constituent atoms align themselves
in two or three different directions. A partial cancellation of the magnetic
field results, and the ferrite is left with an overall magnetic field that
is less strong than that of a ferromagnetic material. This asymmetry
on the part of the atomic orientations may be due to
the presence of two or more different types of magnetic ions
,
to a peculiar crystalline structure, or to both.

The term ferrimagnetism was coined by the French physicist
Louis Néel, who first studied ferrites systematically on the atomic level.

There are several types of ferrimagnetism. In collinear ferrimagnetism
the fields are aligned in opposite directions; in triangular ferrimagnetism
the field orientations may be at various angles to each other. Ferrites
can have several different types of crystalline structures, including
spinel, garnet, perovskite, and hexagonal.


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Wow bismuth is brittle isn’t it?
How do you plan to stabilize it with the ferrite?
Elemental bismuth may occur naturally, although its sulfide and oxide form important commercial ores. The free element is 86% as dense as lead. It is a brittle metal with a silvery white color when freshly produced, but surface oxidation can give it a pink tinge. Bismuth is the most naturally diamagnetic element, and has one of the lowest values of thermal conductivity among metals.
I think it will explode under G-forces.
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AND THEN REALITY, BETTER READ UP BEFORE HAND


https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=FERRITE+MIX+NI+ZN&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis= 1&oi=scholart

There is one paper talking about nano crystalline ribbon or other that
is an advanced modern process for a low low price. You can order cores
made for a little more.

The ribbon is available for improved transformer designs, next level
intermediate and high frequency applications. We need a good response.

Slow response means heat, to fast means a loss of attraction, loss of
the generators ability to produce. Don't be afraid to grind dust put
them together with known acids, muriatic, sulfuric, boric to etch the
exterior of the particle to get close to each other for proper interaction
as well as bonding.

Patents are written to look like it is impossible to the average Joe when
in fact it is always the guys like Bedini who just start trying things.

Once you have your mixed dust ground and reacted together and dried
back out you are ready for molding. The cool thing about ribbon is that
the dust is heated up and rolled out under extreme pressure then
flash cooled while alignment also takes place.

With tape you can now make any shape for cheap. No more $100-
$1000 dollar core custom jobs.

Remember you are making a doped metal.

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Question

Do the resins form chains within the mixture itself after being fully mixed and cured?
If not, would nylon types of material work for strength?
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