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Old 04-12-2017, 09:35 PM
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I cannot watch videos too easily ,but I have a question

if both coils have a total 100 feet of wire ,one single wrap another Bifiler

are you stating that DC resistance will be half in the 100 feet of Bifiler
as apposed to the 100 feet in a mono wound coil
same length of wire ...half the DC resistance ??

I will delete this comment if I misunderstood
or at your request

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Hey Ram
Don't worry about stepping on any of my biggest toes, I forgive
and forget fast especially after a good ole fashion brawl, it's a man
thing.

Good to see you hanging out.

Yes that is correct according to the video not for 100 feet though.

In THE OLD SCIENTIST video and in the picture the amount of wire
used was 680 turns of 22 awg wire and the spools looked to be around
a 2" diameter and with this we might guess the length.

But I think the awg of the wire is actual less because the feet are
less than 680 feet. My mistake. I will correct this thought, however
according to the video measurements THAT spool that looks to be
about 15" long and approx. 2" diameter holds 680 turns and this is
what we have to work with.

Yes that is right Ramset when using the same number of turned
split up like a bifilar and series connecting the winding, the resistance
value is not quite half but close enough.

You really need to see the video. He has been around for years and
has a lot of nice test equipment. Nice everything, scopes you name it.

The lower resistance value may be due to the assisted flow as the
reconnect in series is in the same direction as the first wire flowing.

Then when watching the video he double verifies everything with
two other forms of measuring instruments such as the LCR regular
and then he switched to a precision LCR metering device, then he

looks at the scope as he runs a generator on the coils to find RES.
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Old 04-13-2017, 12:01 AM
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Bro Mikey
well forgive any sloppy typing ,I had a retinal reattachment surgery in February, and apparently its failing again, going under the knife again
tomorrow.
but this question [mine yet to come]and the condition you describe is very very intriguing.

a friend wound two coils last night after reading your post ,they have the same
resistance as your example [from the old scientist] ,but they are smaller in size

His results showed no disparity ??

he suspects there may be a need to pass a threshold for this to happen ?? [bigger coils... actual replication]
or that perhaps there was some error in the actual test probe placement ?

this would truly be an amazing gift ....simply utilizing
this coil characteristic .

all my comments here are sincere ,
have you ever seen this yourself ?
or know someone who has ?
I would love to wind some wire on the lathe myself ....
but seems not for a while...
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Old 04-13-2017, 01:11 AM
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he suspects there may be a need to pass a threshold for this to happen ?? [bigger coils... actual replication]

I would love to wind some wire on the lathe myself ....
but seems not for a while...
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Okay I have briefly reviewed that OLD SCIENTIST says his wire is .5mm
or .021 " = 24awg so I was wrong on that. Then the length should be more
like (GUESSING) 7" X 680 turns.

I will be back. I will ask God to help you with your eye experiment.
The Lord is kind and gracious showing mercy to all generations.
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:14 AM
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Hello Ramset

I went back and listened very closely and deduced that only
for one test OLD SCIENTIST connected two ends of his bifilar
coil together while reading the other two ends or the ends of
wire on the other side. This is cancellation and forms what is
known as a HAIRPIN.

In other experiments I have witnessed that inductance meters
will read zero using short coils and so a very long coil will read
almost nothing as in this case. However I can not explain the
resistance value.

In most regular series connected paths using the bifilar one side
might read 50 and the other side 53 which would lead us to think
both added together should be around 100, when in reality the value
the readings show as much as twice the assumed value in raw tests.

Again a few video's back a standard transformer is shown to be
modified to be used as a bifilar where resistance and impedance
simply disappears.

In yet other evidence multi-filar coils shown with various connection
paths are beyond the scope of simple descriptions. This changes
everything about the coil so we may have more options to tune
our coils to meet the need.

Often shooting in the dark for a specific tuning the right coil setup
could make quick work of finding the keyhole on the lock.



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Old 04-13-2017, 08:57 AM
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I have updated the picture to reflect the most probable data that
was not available and needed to be filled in. For instance the coil
diameter was found at 2.35" Dia X 3.14 pie = 7.379" circumference
so then

7.379" X 680 turns = 5017" / 12" to get feet = 418 feet of 24awg
at 26 ohms per thousand feet of 24awg

So then 418 feet out of 1000 feet gives a value of
.418 X 26 ohms = 10.868 ohms just like OLD SCIENTIST has.

Depending on the selected connection path resistance and impedance
may be greatly reduced that can allow for huge changes.

The lower frame shows a HAIRPIN connection path. With this circuit
inductance cancels and many other things can occur.

As shown by the low figure for this large unit as compared to many
other much smaller coils that read zero inductance. In this case nearly
zero inductance but not zero. Approx. 130 times lower than the
standard solenoid reading.



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Old 04-14-2017, 08:47 AM
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Okay Ultraman TK has corrected us from YT and this is fine.
Thx TK for doing some of this work and I say it's okay if the
results show the same however this does not end anything you
understand.

But you are probably right for such a tiny coil. What are you going to
to with the other measurements such as inductance, surely you must
has a meter.

You see while TK is right on static readings during powering tests the
impedance (A form of resistance) changes dramatically.

For now i think it is important to show what we probably guessed about
the standard resistance of magnet wire. Let's start here with TK's
video.

TK presents are large cross section of the people who can only see
the conventional theories and has trouble going outside the box. It's okay
this is fine, no problem.

But remember this, if you can read and understand the math I posted
about bifilar papers written in the 1940's you would realize that this
is no new data, we are just now learning this, that is all.

The bifilar math and theory went orbital with the rise of early radio.

But still, let us start with the obvious and again thanks TK for taking
the time to address this area of research so we all can investigate
together on youtube.

Here is TK on the testing of DC resistance of wire coils.



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Old 04-14-2017, 09:13 AM
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Okay we will address TK's video later, this has nothing to do with
dc ohms on a bifilar coil, or does it? You tell me. I am asking all of you
to think about WHY this Bedini is speeding up under load.

What are we doing on this split the positive THREAD? What?

1st I have addressed the Modified motor Matt Jones invented and
all of his instructions on how to hook three batteries to power his
motor on differential energy, something that has been done in many
circuits. Also the converter that sends power back to the source
batteries, just as it was pointed out in TURION's

"BASIC FREE ENERGY DEVICE" thread.

2nd we are discussing accelerating the generator under a load.

Remember JOHN BEDINI? Of course we all remember and now miss
him but his work will last forever, watch.

This is a bifilar coil. This Bedini speeds up when using a bifilar coil
as it powers the LED'S. I know what some are going to say that any
coil can do this. Really? Maybe not.

I also have more data coming on bifilar coils that read far different
from conventional and as we experiment the solution to find what we
are looking for will come.

What are we looking for? We are looking for a coil that speeds up the
prime mover or the drive motor while delivering usable energy some might
call free energy.

As you watch this small wheel speed up when a bifilar is used as a
generator coil to power lights what do you think that says about
the values of this coil and why was a standard coil not selected
for this job?

Why? Why is Thane Heins using the bifilar and not a conventional
solenoid? I will tell you why again and as time goes on you won't have
to hear the same repeats to grasp the reason.

It will become clear. Something inside of a bifilar changes when
powered up, what is it?


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Old 04-14-2017, 09:53 AM
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Let's begin our study today of the bifilar by seeing a magnet
pass a bifilar coil in slow motion. What do you think is happening?

This what is happening as our rotor magnets pass the bifilars



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BusoqPXYYM0
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Old 04-14-2017, 10:02 AM
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Another dual transformer transferring energy to power a regular
light bulb on 120ac then using the secondaries that have been
altered as biflars that now face one another getting them to ring.

The ringing increased the power transfer. Not free energy yet.
Or is the effect occurring without additional primary draw?



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Old 04-14-2017, 11:19 AM
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TK says he is back and going to run another tests. Look at this
guy telling us about inductance of the Tesla mult-ifilar pancakes

Here he is on Youtube. You will see right away what I have been
talking about. 1st his tube statement.


Published on Mar 30, 2013

A bi-filar is definatly more inductance than a single. As a motivator (generating a magnetic field) it is a more noticable field.

A quad filar has 50% more inductance than a bifilar; a bi filar has
100% more inductance than a single, or than the sum of the parts.

The flatter the coil, the more notable the effect, chaos, or
overlapped windings reduces the inductance.

56+58 = 114; actual 224
13+14 = 26; actual 41

quadfilar 0.026 + 0.026 + 0.26 + 0.026 = 0.104 ; actual 286

0.26 + 0.26 - actual 0.083
0.26 + 0.26 + 0.26 - actual 0.171
and the 4th in series - actual 0.295

so the result is more than 10x a single winding for 4 windings.

the result is 4x a single winding for 2 windings.

So by that I guess it would be 25x a single winding for a
hex-filar coil... but there must be diminishing returns...

The flatest pancake coil is 33 turns each (total 66). So the quad
filar would be like 16 turns.

So if I made like a 32-filar coil with 2 turns, and put them all
together?... but then isn't it at some point really getting back
to mono-filar coil with an offset of 1?

----
The wider, quad-filar coil (usually to upper left) is fairly flat.
When I took it out of its form it lost integrety a bit.
The narrow-er quad-filar coil is actually somewhat overlapped,
so it's 2x2 winding basically.





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Old 04-23-2017, 08:30 AM
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I have some 100 year old hardwood that are real 2" X 4" that I cut
as shown. The bracketing is 304 ss to stop the flux from jumping
ship.

The sleeve is almost a thin conduit that bearings fit nicely into and
the coil bobbin is yet to be fashioned. I have fiberglass sheeting to
cut some sanding then a little mat and or clothe as a means of
constructing to fit my split flyback core.

More fun to follow when coil experiments begin.



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Old 04-26-2017, 07:35 AM
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Yet another brief example of a motor generator coil being
shorted out while running under a small load Accelerating.

Or ACCELERATION UNDER LOAD or Regenerative acceleration
also other key words ReGenX as coined by Thane Heins.

As can be seen this coil is way larger than the average coil
for such a tiny magnet and this added length will delay the
current at TDC where magnet and coil interactions are slightly
offset. Enough to cause the two to benefit one another.

A lot longer wire can cause this effect as well as other things.
Other things to enter into the equation are using multifilar
coils to achieve this effect with a coil size reduction due to the
wide range of tuning flexibility such as bifilar or trifilar
field changes can offer.

Things like capacitance and inductance alterations
in the multifilar coils. Tuning the coil to operate at the rpm
or frequency needed without huge EMF increases that might
be associated with long coils.

RICHIE'S video shows the effect.



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Where's the beef?

With ALL the examples of coils speeding up under load that have been shown and STILL not a single person has taken the coils, the 3 battery circuit, the modified motor, and put together a machine that puts all these things into practical application. And people wonder why I don't bother to post much anymore. You have EVERYTHING for a working machine yet nobody is building one. It hurts my brain.
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With ALL the examples of coils speeding up under load that have been shown and STILL not a single person has taken the coils, the 3 battery circuit, the modified motor, and put together a machine that puts all these things into practical application. And people wonder why I don't bother to post much anymore. You have EVERYTHING for a working machine yet nobody is building one. It hurts my brain.
I understand your frustration. Maybe in your mind, we, the people, have everything for a working machine. The answer for humankind, who do not listen. And maybe your are right. You did post everything.

What bothers me though is that you post over and over your frustration, while it would be best to start a thread with the first post being the blueprint to build and be clear of the outcome of the build, as to wat is to be expected, the "claim", the "promise", the "reward".

In other words, make your information easily accessible, instead of bickering and demanding others to plow through hundreds of incoherent post.
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people wonder why I don't bother to post much anymore. You have EVERYTHING for a working machine yet nobody is
building one. It hurts my brain.
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I understand your frustration.

What bothers me though is that you post over and over your frustration,
Guys I have figured this out, this generation has been pacified "BING
BING BONG" on their devices to be put into a state of thinking every
thing and anything might be possible then may not be acceptable even
though is permissible. A mind warp.

But here is what is really more the reason, nobody cares about anything
no jobs hardly for so many, they have lost all hope of ever getting
ahead. Our youth sell Recreational smoking products to their friends
for the last 30 years just to keep the lights on.

Our cities are in bad bad shape. You gentlemen have no problems
and are great people that did not get rolled under by the system.
Where I am from near Detroit the people pimp youth blonde girls 3X
per day and are totally addicted to drugs, scabs all over their bodies.


I am in tears about this daily. Well inside I cry a little when I see the
USA in the fallen state and seemingly disrepair. I have love inside of
my being for even the most destitute person. Their minds do not
experiment anymore as it is a struggle just to stay alive.

Now on to what God has given us, I am doing these tests and I don't
care who follows me or not. Turion you are my inspiration and have
pointed out with each pat on the back that this all comes from Matt
on the key Modified Motor.

Here is what could happen. A cordless drill motor might be modified
and might not but someone should give it some thought so we might
use a system the same way so beginners can attain this quickly.

For instance if a cordless drill motor could be done like the winding
charts above several 3.7v Li-ion batteries and they could be splitting
the positive at lunch time.

Then people could see the first step even if they were teenagers
without all day and a machine shop.

If you could only see back home the way I see it you would understand
how few are escaping the carnage of city life let alone having all the
latest. Houses boarded up, siding gone, pentagrams painted with spray
bomb, rape, prostitution you name it. Aging veterans barely able to
fend off the youth breaking into their once high profile homes in the
rich section of town.

Cops, Sheriffs, judges who are criminals can trash a lot of peoples
lives. So the number or cross section of our type of people is rapidly
diminishing. We made it, but what about them?

This is my mind, this is how I address your frustration and mine.

Still yet we must go on like good warriors doing what we were made to
do like some sort of wind up toy you might say. Where does it come
from and where does it go?

Ours is not to reason why. What I am doing is falling the leaders
which first requires me to judge the matter that I am considering.
I have done that, case closed, this works well and is a gift.

It is a free gift and it flows from the hearts that are giving it. Freely
they receive and freely give to each of you. The only question that
remains is "Are you able to receive it"?

A gift is worthless to anyone who is unable to interact.

Okay enough of me doing poetry. I made and am making parts.
Today my motor stand is on the rise, it is adjustable. It is my
adjustable motor platform. It is so cool, I got to show it to you.

I will very soon. Also I want to say how glad I am and how good
I feel today after being so sick for the last month. These dern
sprays coming from airplanes on the farm lands nailed me good.

Oh one more thing, just because most won't post doesn't mean they
are not doing the tests. So now someone can do a short post at my
request.

Who is testing these circuits? Who? Let me know.






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