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Old 05-10-2016, 11:27 AM
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Walter Russel / Utron research

Hi all,

I'm trying to do some research on the Utron en Walter Russels concepts ..
After years of reading al the stuff.. I have some idears i wanted to test.

I'm not claiming anything, just sharing some of the fun while doing it.

Im still building a basic test setup, and trying to keep het modular, to make easy changes.

Here is a little overview:

Here is the first attempt of spinning things up.


Still some wobbling and things to improve... But i'm happy ! : )
There are two hollow axis inside so i can turn independetly or run wires true.
In the spinning video i just spin the central core axis and the Utron with disc and the ball on the outside only move due some friction and drag.

Next step is some wiring.
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Old 05-10-2016, 02:45 PM
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Wiring start

Starting some wiring of : )
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Old 05-10-2016, 11:48 PM
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Little tests

As i am building.. I also do little tests in between for fun and to see what i can observe. One of them below

You can see the setup is very rude and simpel.. and not finished..
I just could not resist spinning al little up : )

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Old 05-11-2016, 04:08 AM
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I remember buying info on that long ago,
and it had conflicting data
it seems to either have been made of acrylic plastic or solid aluminum
but because I could not figure out what one it was, I never built either
not to hard to make either,
I should have tried each of them to find out what they did
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Old 05-14-2016, 10:13 AM
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Hi Spacecase, dou you still have that information? That would be intrestring.

Im testing now if i can set up some kind of magnetic field inside.

Only half done.. but some testing anyway



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Old 05-14-2016, 04:11 PM
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I do have the "poor-quality photocopies" mentioned at this link
Otis T.Carr: The Utron Electrical Accumulator ~ Articles, Model Construction Plans, US Patent # 2,912,244 &c...
have run across them a few times in the last 30 years, but can't seem to find them at the moment.
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Old 05-14-2016, 04:27 PM
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I do have the "poor-quality photocopies" mentioned at this link
Otis T.Carr: The Utron Electrical Accumulator ~ Articles, Model Construction Plans, US Patent # 2,912,244 &c...
have run across them a few times in the last 30 years, but can't seem to find them at the moment.
I know this ones , but tnx anyway !
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Old 05-14-2016, 10:15 PM
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the poor-quality photocopies they had when writing that link appear to be missing pages,
mine sure was missing a page when I got it, but it appears to not be the same page they have missing
you need another source to get all of what he originally wrote
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:39 AM
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the poor-quality photocopies they had when writing that link appear to be missing pages,
mine sure was missing a page when I got it, but it appears to not be the same page they have missing
you need another source to get all of what he originally wrote
I agree, the more info the better.

But for know i'm not making an exact copy , Im just using it as a guideline for some of my ideas.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:00 PM
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Some new testing

Doing some testing with electrostatics and the Utron

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Old 02-02-2017, 07:25 AM
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what tests are you running ?
any results ?
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Old 02-02-2017, 08:42 AM
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what tests are you running ?
any results ?
I'm gonna try all kinds of different setups.
Now i have a base to start, i built a more stable test bench .

I have made different Utrons, some as a capacitor, in different configurations.
Next step is to create a magnetic field around it.

I have something i my head... Wich i'm trying to build.

The electronics part is hard stuff for me, as i'm not that experienced in electronics.

But i', having fun and i'm learning.. we will see what happens : )
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Double Utron test

Here i'am testing a double Utron rotor

One with large plates for torque, the other with small plates for speed.

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Old 02-02-2017, 05:42 PM
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Test in enclosure

Here is a very rude test, with the Utron enclosed.

Less air drag, and i need the enclosure for my magnetic field to come : )
I could make it a vacuŁm, but that is too early and too much hassle for now.

Very rude test again, but thats ok.. I'm just testing some basics.

More speed.

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Old 02-02-2017, 11:30 PM
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Small update

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Old 02-04-2017, 02:22 AM
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figured out that you are posting youtube,
by default they are not visible to me,
also, internet not fast enough to watch them,
will try to get to another internet connection to see them.
thank you for posting your work
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:28 AM
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figured out that you are posting youtube,
by default they are not visible to me,
also, internet not fast enough to watch them,
will try to get to another internet connection to see them.
thank you for posting your work
No problem,

I'm laughing now.. you are the only one interested, tnx for that, but not able to see the vids.

Maybe there is a connection ; )

Here is a pic of the how it looks now.
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:37 PM
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More tests

Did some more testing and learning

A test with the two rotors connected in series
Another with one rotor with double contacts


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Old 02-05-2017, 07:21 AM
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this popped to mind,
have you thought about making 2 one over the other (same shaft) with them counter rotating and one smaller than the other, in a magnetic field
and then weight the assembly as you turn it on.

have you weighed any of these as you spin them ?
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Old 02-05-2017, 09:16 AM
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this popped to mind,
have you thought about making 2 one over the other (same shaft) with them counter rotating and one smaller than the other, in a magnetic field
and then weight the assembly as you turn it on.

have you weighed any of these as you spin them ?
Haha , I have thought of that, or something alike and it will come.
There are so many things I wanna try.

I'm not aiming to fly ( yet ) , i'm working on the power-source.

Now i got a workable basis my next to things will be to create somekind of a magnetic field around the Utron. And to see if I can collect some electrons thrown out.
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Old 02-05-2017, 09:44 AM
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Just some eye candy ; )
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Old 02-05-2017, 10:31 PM
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Thumbs up Mr Russel

Cherryman;

I am a Walter Russel believer and think this world should follow his teachings. ESPECIALLY his non coil winding.
cudos for opening this thread.

the world could really learn from the likes of William Hooper and Walter Russel.

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Old 02-06-2017, 11:47 AM
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Simulation

To make it easier to understand I made a simulation of the basic principle.
Note: This is not the final design
TIP ( Thought In Progress )



Inside there is the ion flow coming out in the middle.
The upper half and bottom half of the Utron are changing continuously polarity.

When the magnetic field is introduced they are forced around in the chamber and are picking up speed until they are thrown out.


For those who know what a Cyclotron is..
This is in a way a 3D version of a cyclotron.


But I do not only want to accelerate the particles, also the mass.

I did not expect the outbreak at the top.
I think it is just a leak in the design and simulation.

I have made another one, more up to my expectations.
Although somehow the outcome of the above one still looks nice : )
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Old 02-06-2017, 03:43 PM
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Fixed the leak

I fixed the leak, now the particles escape at the right perimeter.




Also on the little screens are the collector plates visible.
Notice the nice geometric shapes.
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:23 PM
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Got Zapped and HV AC switching

Testing the HV AC switching of the different half.
& Got Zapped !! : )
But it works! Got some good switching going on, time to seal it up!

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Old 02-06-2017, 09:29 PM
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Some fun

Some fun

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Old 02-11-2017, 03:31 PM
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Utron Update

Here is a little update.


I dit a lot of small experiments to get more familiar with the subject and electrics. Maybe i post those little experiments when people like it.


But here is where I'm at now.
Wound my first coil ! : )

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Old 02-12-2017, 05:48 PM
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Tests, tests, tests... Not much new. Maybe boring even ; )


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Old 02-12-2017, 10:00 PM
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Got some voltage out of the unconnected coil

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Old 02-16-2017, 01:47 AM
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The worlds first wooden electrical engine?

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