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Old 02-08-2016, 06:47 AM
telemachus telemachus is offline
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Boyd Bushman's Galileo Experiment and Anti-Gravity

Hi folks,

Has anyone tried Boyd Bushman's "Galileo experiment", where he claimed that magnets with their repulsive fields held together will negate some of the gravity acting on falling bodies. Bushman went on to describe how his experiment (a re-enactment of Galileo Galilei dropping objects from the top of the Leaning Tower of Pisa, an early pre-cursor to proving the equivalence principle) actually made the object (that had magnetic fields inside it) fall slower than the other object. See Bushman's description at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ZKTA7nx8U, from 5 minute mark to 8:30 in this youtube video.

Has anyone had success replicating this experiment?


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Old 02-12-2016, 05:59 PM
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Boyd Bushman's experiment helps us to see that there is a relation
between opposing magnets and gravity even if the effect is small.

Now we need to concider what effects gravity waves can have locally.
There has been progress lately that shows that some of the contemporary
models such as LIGO show promise.
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Old 02-13-2016, 07:00 AM
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Thanks for sharing mikrvolt. The U.S. Patent office website has Bushman's patent on the opposing magnet effect. The first page of the patent has a diagram on how to arrange the magnets so that they exhibit gravity-cancelling behaviour.


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Boyd Bushman's experiment helps us to see that there is a relation
between opposing magnets and gravity even if the effect is small.

Now we need to concider what effects gravity waves can have locally.
There has been progress lately that shows that some of the contemporary
models such as LIGO show promise.
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Old 02-18-2016, 12:11 AM
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If the effect is demonstated while falling, shouldn't we somewhat see the same thing in a pendulum swinging type of setup?

The squished out field of opposing magnets appears to offer resistance to the downward flow of gravity, so there should be an effect while the same type of setup is swaying back and forth.

I have not tried this yet but I intend to sometime. It is much easier than trying to find a tall structure to drop from.

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Old 02-19-2016, 09:39 PM
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The gravity cancelling effect is weak, even with very powerful neodymium magnets, and can only be observed by dropping it from a few stories high. I don't think you can see the effect with the small height of a pendulum, and you would need really expensive equipment to detect any change on a pendulum. It's easier to drop it from a great height. See Boyd Bushman's own experiment description at about 5:00 to 8:30 mark in the youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ZKTA7nx8U,

I plan to wrap my magnet set-up with bubble wrap etc. in order to protect them in a fall from dropping down a few stories.

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If the effect is demonstated while falling, shouldn't we somewhat see the same thing in a pendulum swinging type of setup?

The squished out field of opposing magnets appears to offer resistance to the downward flow of gravity, so there should be an effect while the same type of setup is swaying back and forth.

I have not tried this yet but I intend to sometime. It is much easier than trying to find a tall structure to drop from.

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Old 02-20-2016, 01:09 AM
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The gravity cancelling effect is weak, even with very powerful neodymium magnets, and can only be observed by dropping it from a few stories high. I don't think you can see the effect with the small height of a pendulum, and you would need really expensive equipment to detect any change on a pendulum. It's easier to drop it from a great height. See Boyd Bushman's own experiment description at about 5:00 to 8:30 mark in the youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ZKTA7nx8U,

I plan to wrap my magnet set-up with bubble wrap etc. in order to protect them in a fall from dropping down a few stories.
I guess I should have explained what I was envisioning a little better.

Two string pendulums of 6 to 8 feet, or longer if you have the distatance available. One with the strong opposing magnets and the other with identical shape and weight. Use two pieces of PVC pipe as the ends of the penulum. One houses the magnets, the other loaded with something(lead or steel shot would be a decent choice) of equal weight.

Release them at the same time and the only measurement tool you need is a pair of eyes(or eye).

The advantage of doing it this way is time. You only have a few seconds to observe a straight down fall, but a pendulum has a lot of time to observe what is happening between the two swinging objects. You can also easily test your setup by using equal magnets or weights to make sure they swing at the same rate if your unsure if the setup is correct.

You can also change the orientation of the opposing magnets squished out field by the way it is laying in the "mount" at the end of the string.

You have zero control of how the field is orientated to gravity when you drop it from a structure of a couple of stories high when it is contained in bubble wrap.

What do you wish to accomplish by doing the same thing that Boyd Bushman showed us, prove that his video was real? What he showed was an intersting, but uncontrolled experiment.

I have zero doubt that there was a slow down with the opposing magnets because I think magnetism and gravity are one in the same, so there would be interference between the two. The Earth's magnetism isn't just tiny as taught, it's f'ing strong. The surface speed of the spinning Earth is fast enough to fling off everything without a really strong magnetic(gravity) pull, at least in my humble opinion.

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Old 02-23-2016, 11:53 PM
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Yes, I want to see if Bushman's patent actually works in cancelling gravity. Your observation about the spinning earth is interesting. I never considered that the earth's magnetic field might be pulling everything in.

Interesting idea with the pendulum set-up. Keep me posted on the results

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I guess I should have explained what I was envisioning a little better.

Two string pendulums of 6 to 8 feet, or longer if you have the distatance available. One with the strong opposing magnets and the other with identical shape and weight. Use two pieces of PVC pipe as the ends of the penulum. One houses the magnets, the other loaded with something(lead or steel shot would be a decent choice) of equal weight.

Release them at the same time and the only measurement tool you need is a pair of eyes(or eye).

The advantage of doing it this way is time. You only have a few seconds to observe a straight down fall, but a pendulum has a lot of time to observe what is happening between the two swinging objects. You can also easily test your setup by using equal magnets or weights to make sure they swing at the same rate if your unsure if the setup is correct.

You can also change the orientation of the opposing magnets squished out field by the way it is laying in the "mount" at the end of the string.

You have zero control of how the field is orientated to gravity when you drop it from a structure of a couple of stories high when it is contained in bubble wrap.

What do you wish to accomplish by doing the same thing that Boyd Bushman showed us, prove that his video was real? What he showed was an intersting, but uncontrolled experiment.

I have zero doubt that there was a slow down with the opposing magnets because I think magnetism and gravity are one in the same, so there would be interference between the two. The Earth's magnetism isn't just tiny as taught, it's f'ing strong. The surface speed of the spinning Earth is fast enough to fling off everything without a really strong magnetic(gravity) pull, at least in my humble opinion.

Itzon
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