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Old 06-21-2019, 03:45 PM
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Hey Doggiedumb****,
If you bothered to actually READ the threads instead of jumping in years down the road and blessing us all with your lack of knowledge and understanding of basic concepts, you would know that I “revealed” my “secret identity” years ago. The name is Dave Bowling. I have also shared my email address and I have even had folks on these forums, like Peter Lindemann over to the house to look at my work. I am not trying to hide ANYTHING, unlike people like bistander and yourself who hide in the dark behind fake names and have absolutely NOTHING on the line, and are free to say whatever you want FROM THE DARKNESS to discredit the work of others.

Good ol’ bistander, who won’t replicate anything to see if it actually works, but uses his vast knowledge of free energy devices not to actually BUILD and CONTRIBUTE, but to discredit the work of everybody else.

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Quantum,

If you had a machine that weighs close to 200 pounds, takes up way too much space assembled, had to move it from one house to your new house by yourself and weíre 65 years old, what would YOU do?

Besides which, I had some parts that had been drilled slightly off center because I did them myself, and wanted to replace them with NEW parts that were done by a machinist when I could finally afford it.

You arenít living my life and you really donít have the background to second guess my decisions.

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It doesn't take a genius to figure out why this anonymous 'authority'
here, this Dave/Turion character, sounds and acts and writes so much
like Thane Heins.....

Have we figured out who Turion really is?

This guy who has this impressive but video-less, monstrously successful
machine who sneers down his nose at people who are 'less than capable'
of being deserving of his attention etc.

And can't be bothered to get rich on it.
I know who he is, I have seen his face on at least one of his videos.
What do you look like?
Me? Iím 5 foot 7 inches and 180 pounds.
Native American.
Want to wrestle or drink a beer?
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Iím 5 foot 7 inches and 180 pounds.
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Hey Doggiedumb****,
The dooggy is dog'in everyone cause his brain no longer works
correctly. He forgot his ABC's, can't read or think coherently.

David Bowling is an American Inventor who has a continuously
charging device posted all over the web with the details given
away free. David has devoted a substantial portion of his life
to his machines along with the many thousands it took to get
this far.

All given away free of charge, in your face.

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Old 06-21-2019, 08:56 PM
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Turion,I'm quite a bit older than you so you've still got plenty of potential!!
I've been watching your progress since about May 2008.
I have built my own wind generator with home made PM.
alternator. Two blades made from one piece of mahogany and a multiblade inner set of blades to aid starting (cogging torque at start-up).
Why on earth did you kill the golden goose? You had something that was unique.
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... I am not trying to hide ANYTHING, unlike people like bistander and yourself ...
Good olí bistander, who wonít replicate anything to see if it actually works, but uses his vast knowledge of free energy devices not to actually BUILD and CONTRIBUTE, but to discredit the work of everybody else.

Dave
Dave,

To state facts, truth and request proof of your claims discredits no one. And I did replicate one of your schemes and run a number of well instrumented tests presenting all the data only to ridiculed by you and your buddies. You take your usual approach again and stop short of finishing with facts, data and proof, and instead resort to name calling. Then have the audacity to say
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Yet that is exactly what you do to others.

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Old 06-21-2019, 09:54 PM
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I have several versions of the generator. My big machine which has 12 coils and 24 magnets on the rotor is at the machinist in Santa Clara where I am having some work done on it prior to testing at an independent lab. They want to run it for several hours straight and that would cause it to overheat, so I am having the simple modifications made to use water as a coolant. That machine has magnetic neutralization.
Itís six hours round trip with no traffic, and I can guarantee you will hit traffic either going or coming, so I canít just run down there and grab it. I have had an earlier version of my machine tested at Quanta Labs before, so I am fairly confident of the results and my numbers.

I have TWO versions of the generator at my new house. One has six magnets on the rotor and places for 12 coils. It does NOT have magnetic neutralization, so I can only put two coils on the thing without putting unnecessary stress on the motor. I use it as a coil tester. It is put together, but has NO coils in it, which means itís about 70 pounds lighter.

The last machine has 12 magnets on the rotor. It holds 10 coils. But it is in pieces. It is the one I am putting back together to show people. This is outdated tech. Thatís why I released it in the first place. You donít think Iíd give the really good stuff away do you? Thatís why going to call the trouble to PROVE this works to folks on the forum is NIT a priority for me. I have other work to do that is FAR more important.

You need to understand that I have had several different rotors made for each one of these machines, and it is really hard to tell how many magnets on the rotor and what size without taking the machine apart. So the numbers I have given today as to number of magnets on rotors is my best guess. I could be wrong.

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Old 06-21-2019, 10:02 PM
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I think you are talking about the replication of the single battery circuit. When did you EVER replicate ANYTHING of ours with the proper sized battery and a modified Matt motor?

Answer is: you didnít.

Yet you claim it was a replication. LOL

Yes, I have audacity. And I know what is possible. I have built a couple very different devices that do exactly what they are supposed to do. I shared the generator here. But thatís probably all I will ever share.
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I think you are talking about the replication of the single battery circuit. When did you EVER replicate ANYTHING of ours with the proper sized battery and a modified Matt motor?

Answer is: you didnít.

Yet you claim it was a replication. LOL

...
Those were not prerequisites when you posted the circuit and told people to build it. Over the years you have stated neither item was a necessity, just desirable for optimum performance. And what size battery did you use when you ran the circuit? Where's your data? I doubt you ever built it. Matt said he was going to, but never did. You couldn't even tell us what the intended result was for that circuit. But that fact remains that I did replicate it, so it is untrue that I never replicated anything. Several others have replicated your battery systems and Matt's motor. You never like the resulting data so you discredit them and often ridicule them.

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Old 06-21-2019, 10:38 PM
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For YEARS now when we have said to use a motor, it was understood that we were talking about a modified motor. We have ALWAYS said to use the largest deep cycle batteries possible and many in parallel if all you have is smaller ones.

And you are silly enough to accuse me of not even building the circuit? Now THAT’S audacity. LOL.

The point is, if you did NOT use the modified motor and did NOT use a large battery, then you replicated a car with Oreos instead of wheels. Yes, they are round, but you won’t get far, and neither did you. I don’t call that a replication, I call it a JOKE.

I have NEVER ridiculed a single individual who built a replication using large deep cycle batteries, a boost module, and the proper motor. NEVER. Your statement is an absolute lie. Period.

By the way, the intended result for that circuit was extending the run time of the battery beyond what it is normally capable of, which means running the motor under load far longer than it should. The idea is to show people that the load does NOT consume the electricity as they have been taught.
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Turion is an American inventor targeted by the A.I. and bought
and paid for lame brain antagonist of our day. One thing the system
forgot, some of us grew up fighting for everything we ever got
with this type of opposition from the start.

As probability has it he is one of the few who has endured and stood the
test of his time. teachers are programmed to demand results from
their students like Doctors you either do what is expected or else.

In some ways this is good if the project is right. It is what it is. Think
about what is happening here. Now that Turion has learned that Govt
control has lied to us, it's to late, he is the same teacher he always was
taught to be as a young man.

Everything works out in the end. I like a strong voice of reason, a teacher
should be that and of course is why I like David Bowling. He is tough,
smart, steady, always tells the truth and best of all knows what he is
teaching because he has the many models on his desk.

That is the mark of a real teacher. Teachers are tough because of the
many years of dealing with huge cross section of hard head humans.

Enjoy it boys, the die is cast and the project stands tall, attack it, talk down
and mock all you like a teacher is use to it. I know I teach.

And may the best man win!!! Go Dave.


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Old 06-21-2019, 11:29 PM
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Here are the facts, and I HAVE stated them many times.

1. When you are using the three battery system OR the single battery circuit, you are NEVER going to economically charge a 12 volt battery with 12 volts. Have you ever put a kilowatt meter on the wall, plugged in your standard battery charger into it, and charged a battery? Try it sometime.

A BOOST module is necessary in BOTH situations to raise the voltage that is hitting the battery to around 14.2 volts or more.

2. You will never economically charge a battery by connecting 14 volts to it and letting it set. The battery MUST be pulsed and at the correct frequency. That is the purpose of the Matt motor. It interrupts the 14 volts hitting the battery and gives it a pulse charge.

3. Batteries have impedance and RESIST CHARGING (see #1 above and LOOK at what it takes to actually charge a battery) The bigger the battery, the lower the impedance to charge.

When you are talking about fractions being the difference between success and failure, the failure of MANY people to accurately replicate what we have shown is the reason for their lack of success.

Now I have said that I can get extended run times with a stock motor and a smaller battery. That's true. But I know EXACTLY what I am looking for and it STILL takes me a LONG TIME to get everything working correctly. And I have been messing with this for over ten years now. What are the chances that somebody new is going to stumble on success? Some HAVE, but only a couple. And I guarantee it took more than one attempt.
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And you are silly enough to accuse me of not even building the circuit? Now THATíS audacity. LOL. ...
Show us your data and photo or video of it please.

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Here are the facts, and I HAVE stated them many times.

1. When you are using the three battery system OR the single battery circuit, you are NEVER going to economically charge a 12 volt battery with 12 volts. Have you ever put a kilowatt meter on the wall, plugged in your standard battery charger into it, and charged a battery? Try it sometime.
Yeah, I did that, many times over the years. Here's a recent example
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A BOOST module is necessary in BOTH situations to raise the voltage that is hitting the battery to around 14.2 volts or more.
Strange statement. You say you need a boost module when using a standard wall-plug powered battery charger?

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3. Batteries have impedance and RESIST CHARGING (see #1 above and LOOK at what it takes to actually charge a battery) The bigger the battery, the lower the impedance to charge.
Generally speaking, yes, larger capacity cells have lower impedance, but size doesn't always matter. The battery which I used to replicate your single battery system is a premium high power battery, probably the best you can buy. I posted the info and link to specifications. I'm pretty sure its impedance is lower than any 12V lead-acid battery you could have used.

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Now I have said that I can get extended run times with a stock motor and a smaller battery. That's true. But I know EXACTLY what I am looking for and it STILL takes me a LONG TIME to get everything working correctly. And I have been messing with this for over ten years now. What are the chances that somebody new is going to stumble on success? Some HAVE, but only a couple. And I guarantee it took more than one attempt.
It took several attempts to get the converters and load adjusted. I was prepared to do more but couldn't get any help from you, or Matt.

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Donít forget to tighten the battery connections before charging because it is necessary.
Make sure each cell is saturated with distilled water and all eye level even.
Then check the individual batteries voltage, electrolyte level and actual water usage per battery.
The older a battery gets, the more water it uses.
Pockets of gas can get trapped in a charging battery and show false water levels until the pocket gives and then water is needed unknowingly.
A rubber hammer lightly tapping the outer case will work wonders and give you peace of mind plus healthier batteries.

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Two volt batteries in a 24 volt bank at 1110 amp hours.
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I can also pick up chicks with that trick.
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Lock washers would help.

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Thank you bi, but I chose to not use them for the sake of simplicity, the different manufacturers and how the metals react when oxidized plus it is an extra cost and they fail too often because of chemistry.
It is a good idea, but...nah.
Thanks anyway.
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The boost module is necessary in both the 3 battery setup and the single battery setup.

I mentioned plugging a watt meter into the wall and a battery charger into it so people could see how many watts are USED to CHARGE compared to what is actually in the battery for USE once it is ďchargedĒ
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The boost module is necessary in both the 3 battery setup and the single battery setup.

I mentioned plugging a watt meter into the wall and a battery charger into it so people could see how many watts are USED to CHARGE compared to what is actually in the battery for USE once it is ďchargedĒ

Sorry Dave performance and efficiency is way way beyond this guy
he thinks it must be sent to an independent lab for analysis if it has
any volts or amps in it.
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If it has volts and amps, then it must be tasty.
Ever put a nine volt battery to your tongue?
It tastes like 9 volts!!
It helps the munchies.
Does it help you lose weight?
Hmm...
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Anyways getting back to coil sizes that Thane has gone to.
This is his first coil looking like a miniature Nerf football must be
many thousands of feet at 30awg as stated in his write ups.




Next is his 3rd design not like the first producing only a 100ma. This
one is NOT multi stranded, it is a small winding of 18awg that he can
get 5 amps from. Makes sense, the coil amp rating would fall somewhere
between chassis and transmission. 5 AMPS per coil does seem a little
high but this of course is a pulsed rate not hundreds of volts maybe 50Vdc

Maybe with the right wire.


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If it has volts and amps, then it must be tasty.
Ever put a nine volt battery to your tongue?
It tastes like 9 volts!!
It helps the munchies.
Does it help you lose weight?
Hmm...
You smok'em peace pipe? Ya ain't a gonna lose any weight

That rig of yours is big, looking foreword to see what you get out of it too.
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You smok'em peace pipe? Ya ain't a gonna lose any weight

That rig of yours is big, looking foreword to see what you get out of it too.
Me makum big wampum brother known as Micheal.
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I have several versions of the generator. My big machine which has 12 coils and 24 magnets on the rotor is at the machinist in Santa Clara where I am having some work done on it prior to testing at an independent lab. They want to run it for several hours straight and that would cause it to overheat, so I am having the simple modifications made to use water as a coolant. That machine has magnetic neutralization.
So your entire input power is 288 watts. And you are getting 195 watts per coil out. And it is magnetically balanced, water cooled, and being extensively tested at an independent lab (including testing it for extended hours or extended range)

Why do they want to run it for several hours straight? Are they looping it to see if it can go indefinitely?

This is sounding like you are close to a major breakthrough.

What are your plans? Will you patent aspects of this? How does ReGenX figure into all of this? Are you using aspects of the patented ReGenx process in this?
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Your words are like a child having a tantrum.
Iím sure if you wait patiently Turion might if he wants, to tell his tale.
If you cannot wait then build your own.
I built my own but my nephew destroyed it, he has no patience and I disown him from my tribe.
He is now a solitary.
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