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Old 06-20-2019, 11:23 AM
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nice work.
What is the next step you have planned?
Is there any way you foresee being able to use or store the extra or surplus power generated?
Turion, wish you would you answer this.
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Old 06-20-2019, 12:11 PM
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Why are you so uptight
about devices that produce COP>20?
You admitted that it still does not work completely: that it
needs to be optimized.

This would explain why no one is manufacturing it yet. And it would explain why no proof of infinite-range has been posted online, and why it's never been road-tested, etc.

I am one of Thane's fans and promoters.
I will celebrate if it turns out that Thane's latest secret patent means infinite
range for the EMMO!

All indications are that it doesn't. Because no one is manufacturing it, and Thane won't explain what is going on. All indications are that he hasn't yet produced a complete working , infinite-range prototype.

By all indications he's still demonstrating the same 'extra current and free acceleration' machine he's had for some time. He keeps tweaking it to make it do the same thing more efficiently.

But he may need to attract deep, deep pockets to bring this to the finish line.
They may have to put some serious, serious R&D money into this.

To either find a way to convert and save that extra current, or to find a way to integrate and control/harness the 'free acceleration' aspect of it.

The patents which Thane has: may mainly serve to prevent the 'deep pockets' from grabbing what Thane has done, and doing that very thing (the serious R&D to completion). And then claiming that they invented it themselves and trying to cut Thane out.

My hope is he breaks his silence to lay out exactly what is going on. That doesn't mean he has to expose the IP to scrutiny. Just tell people what is going on and how they can help.

I admire his work, and the exciting vision it presents. Who wouldn't want him to succeed? I certainly want it to succeed. I am a fan of his work.
But I'm not a fan of what has been happening lately with this.
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I am one of Thane's fans and promoters.
I will celebrate if it turns out that Thane's latest secret patent means infinite
range for the EMMO!



But he may need to attract deep, deep pockets to bring this to the finish line.
They may have to put some serious, serious R&D money into this.

To either find a way to convert and save that extra current, or to find a way to integrate and control/harness the 'free acceleration' aspect of it.

.
But I'm not a fan of what has been happening lately with this.
Who cares, show me your project and that you know what's going on
with this tech which you can't. All you want to do is talk zhit on people.

Go ahead.
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People have been buying the 'shrouded in secrecy' line for quite awhile.
As it stands today, this thing should have investors breaking down the doors
to manufacture it in the U.S.
There has been nothing.
Money Money Money shut up about money and show me you have half
a brain to build something that operates at COP>1
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Old 06-20-2019, 09:22 PM
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Who cares, show me your project and that you know what's going on
with this tech which you can't. All you want to do is talk zhit on people.

Go ahead.
Grow up. Just. Grow. Up.
This is tiresome already. If you think you are helping , forget it.

You have no logical response, we get it. All you have is childish emotion.
And you don't seem to care that people were lied to.
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Old 06-20-2019, 09:33 PM
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Money Money Money shut up about money and show me you have half a brain to build something that operates at COP>1
Money makes the world go round. No one will want to invest anything more in ReGenX until Thane makes good on his wild claims of infinite range.

I posted about this here just in case I was missing something in Thane's videos which went over my head.
But it turns out I had it correct from the start. So far he's still got nothing but some extra current and some free acceleration. No extra power. No battery recharge. And no way to harness the free acceleration yet.

And he misled people to believe otherwise. And you dump on me for stating the truth.
Like I said everyone wants a win from this. So why not let people have the truth and go from there?

How can we get our heads together and solve this? Your demented crap isn't helpful.
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Anyway, Thane Heins, of Potential Difference Inc, contacted me recently with the claim that he has developed a device based on a bi-toroid transformer prototype that in tests proved
to be 7000% efficient. “This past weekend we gave a product demonstration (generator and transformer) to an international transformer manufacturer,” Heins told me, “Our transformer used 0.2 Watts in the primary and produced 14 watts through a 180 ohm - 25 watt resistor. We will be producing 1 - 7000 Watt toroids in the near future and even larger industrial ones.”
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Old 06-21-2019, 03:14 AM
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Money Money Money shut up about money and show me you have half
a brain to build something that operates at COP>1

OK, here's an idea.

Lets forget about battery recharge. We will concentrate on the acceleration aspect only.

We integrate it into a vehicle to harness the free acceleration.
Wire it in so that if there is an upcoming hill , it accelerates the vehicle
in anticipation of having to climb the hill.
Or if you have to pass someone , it accelerates until you are past them and then returns to normal speed.

Who cares if it recharges the battery? You can still save immense battery power if you have free acceleration.

Imagine an electric freight truck in hill country.
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Anyway, Thane Heins, of Potential Difference Inc, contacted me recently with the claim that he has developed a device based on a bi-toroid transformer prototype that in tests proved
to be 7000% efficient. “This past weekend we gave a product demonstration (generator and transformer) to an international transformer manufacturer,” Heins told me, “Our transformer used 0.2 Watts in the primary and produced 14 watts through a 180 ohm - 25 watt resistor. We will be producing 1 - 7000 Watt toroids in the near future and even larger industrial ones.”
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OK, here's an idea.

Lets forget about battery recharge. We will concentrate on the acceleration aspect only.

We integrate it into a vehicle to harness the free acceleration.
Wire it in so that if there is an upcoming hill , it accelerates the vehicle
in anticipation of having to climb the hill.
Or if you have to pass someone , it accelerates until you are past them and then returns to normal speed.

Who cares if it recharges the battery? You can still save immense battery power if you have free acceleration.

Imagine an electric freight truck in hill country.
At 62yrs I am and have been all grown up, whipper snapper.
This thread is not about pickin zhit with the chickens over who got some
money for research and you didn't. You didn't because you don't
understand the tech, 6th grade answers do much better than yours.
In grade school I answered questions put to me the best I could.

You? You don't build, you don't understand, you are a lunitic on a
thread for guys to offer things tangible in the way of the Tesla science.

You have targeted money and set your self up as judge of other people
who you feel are frauds because you can not figure it out. You want
money? Instead of others getting it? Then as judge when you're ignored
you try to enact some form of public jury. The execution of your fellow
mate who you claim to love so much.

Show us anything that resembles a science experiment or go find a
site of complainers and disruptors. Don't care about money, it is the
cheapest thing in life you will ever have.

You are punk doggy-boy full of yourself
You are the in crowd Intellectual giant.
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American BroMikey!
American Dad!
I dare any of you social justice warriors to pick on me.
First I can find anyone or anything on any planet and when I do I’ll kick your pansy little tv raised azs.
I’m just a nice neighbor with learning on my mind.
BroMikey is there, Turion is there, a few others are there.
The ones who aren’t there still are afraid of growing up and just making stuff.
The confusion is because your minds have not focused and your parents are still in control.
I wish I could have run you through training out in the field.
Maybe your body/brain parts would grow enough to be able to focus like mature adults instead of beer guzzling frat brats.
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Old 06-21-2019, 04:45 AM
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You are punk doggy-boy full of yourself
You are the in crowd Intellectual giant.
lay off the booze. You want to live in a fantasy world.
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American BroMikey!
American Dad!

The confusion is because your minds have not focused and your parents are still in control.

I wish I could have run you through training out in the field.

Maybe your body/brain parts would grow enough to be able to focus like mature adults instead of beer guzzling frat brats.
It's a shame isn't it? These little goodie goodie two shoes? Reminds me
of my ex-wife teaching the young boys of ours that Dad better send
the money. Broken homes are showing up effeminate raised response.

It's okay we still love their pathetic whiny azzez

It's always a joy to hear from a true drill Sargent.

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Old 06-21-2019, 09:35 AM
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At 62yrs I am and have been all grown up, whipper snapper.
This thread is not about pickin zhit with the chickens over who got some
money for research and you didn't. You didn't because you don't
understand the tech, 6th grade answers do much better than yours.
In grade school I answered questions put to me the best I could.

You? You don't build, you don't understand, you are a lunitic on a
thread for guys to offer things tangible in the way of the Tesla science.

You have targeted money and set your self up as judge of other people
who you feel are frauds because you can not figure it out. You want
money? Instead of others getting it? Then as judge when you're ignored
you try to enact some form of public jury. The execution of your fellow
mate who you claim to love so much.

Show us anything that resembles a science experiment or go find a
site of complainers and disruptors. Don't care about money, it is the
cheapest thing in life you will ever have.

You are punk doggy-boy full of yourself
You are the in crowd Intellectual giant.

Being an old drunk doesn't mean you are grown up.
Public jury is it? Read this entire thread. You are the one making outrageous accusations here. Not me.

Keep going, though. Keep it up. Your attitude says a lot about you.

But now that you have ACCUSED me of this, who is the judge here?

You and your crowd sure LIKE to feel superior to people, doncha?
And to think that you expect support for your bull****.
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Anyway, Thane Heins, of Potential Difference Inc, contacted me recently with the claim that he has developed a device based on a bi-toroid transformer prototype that in tests proved
to be 7000% efficient. “This past weekend we gave a product demonstration (generator and transformer) to an international transformer manufacturer,” Heins told me, “Our transformer used 0.2 Watts in the primary and produced 14 watts through a 180 ohm - 25 watt resistor. We will be producing 1 - 7000 Watt toroids in the near future and even larger industrial ones.”
So he implies that he has 14 watts of free POWER through the bitorroid now.
nice to suddenly have these free-energy 14 watt transformers from out of nowhere, right? When four years ago he admitted to his spokeswoman of the time that the bitorroid transformer patent would be useless until they used computer-modeling to design a CPU for it.

I hope someone jumps on me again here. This starting to get fun.
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Old 06-21-2019, 10:03 AM
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With my setup, how much power is needed to power the motor? 24 volts at 12 amps with my big machine, and less with the smaller machine. How much power does it produce? 1.5 amps per coil at 130 volts x the number of coils on the machine. There are ways to increase the output, but some of them require increased input.
So your entire input power is 288 watts.
And you are getting 195 watts per coil out. How many coils are you using in it right now?

And what are you are doing with these surplus watts?
Are you charging batteries or running a home on this?
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Old 06-21-2019, 11:05 AM
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I am not going to show video of a working device. Videos can be faked

Dave
The above quotes are from Turion.
This is looking promising. I guess I am just another bothersome troll who is going to ask Turion or Thane to actually prove that they have created what they claim to have created.

Turion,

How long have you had this device of yours?

Why are you not manufacturing these things ?

You are going to tell everyone that you have this amazing machine, but can't be bothered to prove you have it , and can't be bothered to attract major investment money, and can't be bothered to become a bazillionaire on it.
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I'll update you. Its bogus. There is no $billion deal pending to manufacture
bitorroid transformers. The bitorroid patent is useless commercially. Because the development of it stalled out when they realized they would need
a gigantic research budget for university physicists to study it and find out if anything usable was there.

You and everyone here know it. The bitorroid transformer patent has been out for YEARS and amounted to F all.

And yet he's sending out emails like that.
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Hi.

IMG_20190621_122704_1.jpg

I do build,this is my sheep feeder.
The Makita drives an auger.
PWM speed controller.
I have used it for years and it keeps going.
My question for Turion is : If you built a
generator as you say, why dismantle it? 0
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I do build,this is my sheep feeder.
The Makita drives an auger.
PWM speed controller.
I have used it for years and it keeps going.
My question for Turion is : If you built a
generator as you say, why dismantle it? 0
It doesn't take a genius to figure out why this anonymous 'authority'
here, this Dave/Turion character, sounds and acts and writes so much
like Thane Heins.....

Have we figured out who Turion really is?

This guy who has this impressive but video-less, monstrously successful
machine who sneers down his nose at people who are 'less than capable'
of being deserving of his attention etc.

And can't be bothered to get rich on it.
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Hope.

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I know I haven't got a hope in ---- of building
With anywhere near the efficiency of
the PMSG.
Graph from Researchgate.
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It doesn't take a genius to figure out why this anonymous 'authority'
here, this Dave/Turion character, sounds and acts and writes so much
like Thane Heins.....

Have we figured out who Turion really is?

This guy who has this impressive but video-less, monstrously successful
machine who sneers down his nose at people who are 'less than capable'
of being deserving of his attention etc.

And can't be bothered to get rich on it.
I know who he is, I have seen his face on at least one of his videos.
What do you look like?
Me? I’m 5 foot 7 inches and 180 pounds.
Native American.
Want to wrestle or drink a beer?
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I’m 5 foot 7 inches and 180 pounds.
Native American.
Want to wrestle or drink a beer?
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Hey Doggiedumb****,
The dooggy is dog'in everyone cause his brain no longer works
correctly. He forgot his ABC's, can't read or think coherently.

David Bowling is an American Inventor who has a continuously
charging device posted all over the web with the details given
away free. David has devoted a substantial portion of his life
to his machines along with the many thousands it took to get
this far.

All given away free of charge, in your face.

@P.Head
He wouldn't last 2 minutes without his shirt blowing up over his head.
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Older.

Turion,I'm quite a bit older than you so you've still got plenty of potential!!
I've been watching your progress since about May 2008.
I have built my own wind generator with home made PM.
alternator. Two blades made from one piece of mahogany and a multiblade inner set of blades to aid starting (cogging torque at start-up).
Why on earth did you kill the golden goose? You had something that was unique.
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Hey Doggiedumb****,
... I am not trying to hide ANYTHING, unlike people like bistander and yourself ...
Good ol’ bistander, who won’t replicate anything to see if it actually works, but uses his vast knowledge of free energy devices not to actually BUILD and CONTRIBUTE, but to discredit the work of everybody else.

Dave
Dave,

To state facts, truth and request proof of your claims discredits no one. And I did replicate one of your schemes and run a number of well instrumented tests presenting all the data only to ridiculed by you and your buddies. You take your usual approach again and stop short of finishing with facts, data and proof, and instead resort to name calling. Then have the audacity to say
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Yet that is exactly what you do to others.

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I think you are talking about the replication of the single battery circuit. When did you EVER replicate ANYTHING of ours with the proper sized battery and a modified Matt motor?

Answer is: you didn’t.

Yet you claim it was a replication. LOL

...
Those were not prerequisites when you posted the circuit and told people to build it. Over the years you have stated neither item was a necessity, just desirable for optimum performance. And what size battery did you use when you ran the circuit? Where's your data? I doubt you ever built it. Matt said he was going to, but never did. You couldn't even tell us what the intended result was for that circuit. But that fact remains that I did replicate it, so it is untrue that I never replicated anything. Several others have replicated your battery systems and Matt's motor. You never like the resulting data so you discredit them and often ridicule them.

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Turion is an American inventor targeted by the A.I. and bought
and paid for lame brain antagonist of our day. One thing the system
forgot, some of us grew up fighting for everything we ever got
with this type of opposition from the start.

As probability has it he is one of the few who has endured and stood the
test of his time. teachers are programmed to demand results from
their students like Doctors you either do what is expected or else.

In some ways this is good if the project is right. It is what it is. Think
about what is happening here. Now that Turion has learned that Govt
control has lied to us, it's to late, he is the same teacher he always was
taught to be as a young man.

Everything works out in the end. I like a strong voice of reason, a teacher
should be that and of course is why I like David Bowling. He is tough,
smart, steady, always tells the truth and best of all knows what he is
teaching because he has the many models on his desk.

That is the mark of a real teacher. Teachers are tough because of the
many years of dealing with huge cross section of hard head humans.

Enjoy it boys, the die is cast and the project stands tall, attack it, talk down
and mock all you like a teacher is use to it. I know I teach.

And may the best man win!!! Go Dave.


As for the rest of you lying sacks??........You know what you are.
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And you are silly enough to accuse me of not even building the circuit? Now THAT’S audacity. LOL. ...
Show us your data and photo or video of it please.

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Show us your data and photo or video of it please.

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Here are the facts, and I HAVE stated them many times.

1. When you are using the three battery system OR the single battery circuit, you are NEVER going to economically charge a 12 volt battery with 12 volts. Have you ever put a kilowatt meter on the wall, plugged in your standard battery charger into it, and charged a battery? Try it sometime.
Yeah, I did that, many times over the years. Here's a recent example
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A BOOST module is necessary in BOTH situations to raise the voltage that is hitting the battery to around 14.2 volts or more.
Strange statement. You say you need a boost module when using a standard wall-plug powered battery charger?

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3. Batteries have impedance and RESIST CHARGING (see #1 above and LOOK at what it takes to actually charge a battery) The bigger the battery, the lower the impedance to charge.
Generally speaking, yes, larger capacity cells have lower impedance, but size doesn't always matter. The battery which I used to replicate your single battery system is a premium high power battery, probably the best you can buy. I posted the info and link to specifications. I'm pretty sure its impedance is lower than any 12V lead-acid battery you could have used.

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Now I have said that I can get extended run times with a stock motor and a smaller battery. That's true. But I know EXACTLY what I am looking for and it STILL takes me a LONG TIME to get everything working correctly. And I have been messing with this for over ten years now. What are the chances that somebody new is going to stumble on success? Some HAVE, but only a couple. And I guarantee it took more than one attempt.
It took several attempts to get the converters and load adjusted. I was prepared to do more but couldn't get any help from you, or Matt.

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