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Old 07-08-2016, 08:55 PM
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More explanations on how this coil performs and why.

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@Dog-One: Thanks! :-)

@ALL:
Still pondering on Heins' invention ...
The delay is not the whole truth that is involved - I feel.

Taking you back to the advanced handbook of Bedini rotor by P. Lindeman. There is a very comprehensive explanation on how the Bedini energizer works.
Please recall that in vicinity of TDC Lenz forces act mostly radially and hence do not contribute much to opposing the motion of the rotor.
At generator coils attached he shows a very simple circuit with a diode, a capacitor and LEDs with resistor.
Once the capacitor is charged the LEDs consume some power few and at next cycle the capacitor is being recharged. But if the LED power is well tuned the capacitor will receive current only in the vicinity of TDC. It just makes use of the top slope of the sine wave. Before and after this time slot the capacitor will have higher voltage than the generator coil and because of the diode will be separated in these sectors of motion.
I hesitate to copy drawigns from this book because of copy right. But if anybody cannot understand this fact alng words please come back and I will draw an own drawing.
Please note that Peter mentions there that this effect is less prominent at small rotors and will increase with size of teh wheel.

Now back to Heins:
The current builds up wit a considrable delay. But please observe: The current starts to go up in the vicinity of TDC only. Short time before TDC. As we saw above this is the area where Lenz cannot contribute much to roter slow down because the forces act radially and not in the direction of magent motion.
This energy will charge the "parasitic" capacitance of his coil. So there is real text book energy involved but with Lenz encountering obstacles - first.
The notion above was never mentioned in any explanation of Heins' invention as far I know.

So we see the first stroke of this engine gathering energy in an area where Lenz is weak. But differently form Bedini who consumes this enery in LEDs, Heins consumes this energy in a delayed manner.
And here begins the second stroke where the - initially stored - energy is released and Lenz is invited to act with power. "Unfortunately" for him, time for doing evil is gone and his full power after TDC does good for acceleration of the rotor.

Regarding replications:
1. Size of the wheel
Most replications that were published make use of relatively small rotors. Yes the acceleration is visible but not very prominent. So the size of Bedini's bicycle wheel might be right in order to get lower Lenc effect while charging teh capacitance of the coil.
At a bigger wheel we have the big advantage that we do not need such high rpm like Heins. These rpm are not easy to handle by laymen and might turn out to be dangerous. What counts is the frquency of passing magnets only. The bigger the diemeter of the wheel the slower it needs to turn while showing same frequency.

2. Prominent emanation of regenx effect
Because of severe shifts in voltage vs. amperage the idling state might be extemely uneffective and once they put on a load the effectivity might increase - hence acceleration and less power input. I do not claim this to be true but I feel for a clear proof of replication it will be very important to get a much more prominent acceleration and some true power measurements. Just observing acceleration might be a dirt effect only.
Please understand that I am 100% convinced that this invention is based on real and tangible laws of nature and this is a real discovery giving one small glance to God's creation. And therefore we need to have much more clear proof. Not proof for ignorants but for continuing and understanding this ingenious dicovery - and using it of course.

3. Construction of coils
As we learnt we need high capacitance in the regenx coil. Simple bifilar coils were suggested. But on other hand the effect might be prominent at higher voltage only - because of relaitvely low capacitance.
If we want to increase the capacitance (gives lower frequency and lower voltage where the effect can be seen) we can make use of metal tape. Aluminum tape can easily be aquired. Well, the resistance is higher than at copper but please compute the square mm of a tape 0.035mm x 48 mm = 1.68 sqmm ! Now take 2/3 of this and you have an equivalent of copper = 1.12 sqmm.
Now fortunately we have in the world imperial and metric measures so we can buy 48mm aluminum tape and transparent plastic adhesive tape of 50mm. Normal transparent adhesive tape is made out of PP - a frequently used insulator for capacitors.

So we can wind a sandwich of:
  • Aluminum tape 48mm - 0.035 mm metal and 0. 35 mm adhesive
  • Transparent tape 50mm - 0.035 mm metal and 0. 35 mm adhesive
  • Aluminum tape 48mm - 0.035 mm metal and 0. 35 mm adhesive
  • Transparent tape 50mm - 0.035 mm metal and 0. 35 mm adhesive
Thus every winding gives 0.28mm thickness = ca. 3 turns per mm while teh insulator is 3x0.035 = ca 0.1mm. So at our simple replications no voltage breakdown will be seen.

Edges of aluminum tape are coverd by 1mm insulationg tape. The adhesive property gives a very solid winding with virually no moving or vibrating layers.

As soon I have free time I will build a simple jig for winding such coils in order to check their resonant frequency and if they might be useful for a regenx replication.
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In this video remarkable statements are made concerning the evolution
of the ReGenX to the ReGenXtra technology. Listen as Thane talks about
the one battery being charged and discharged all at the same time.

The battery charges while the motor runs full speed and helps the
motor action at the same time but what I find interesting is Thanes
statement and video showing a motor coil that has an integrated
RegenX coil right together.

On top of this double winding probably one on top of the other motor
coil switching will also collect the collapsing field of the motor coil as
it is switched OFF and the energy is sent back to the battery.

I am not 100% sure how the geometry of this coil assembly would
actually look. As shown ReGenX coils have a "C" core giving the coil
two separate end by which it can toggle from "N" and "S".

Not only can coils be built to motor or be made for generating the dual
coil setup integrates both into one package.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmable_magnet



Any thoughts on how these Printed Polarity Magnets could increase the efficiency of the ReGenX generator?

these things can take a standard magnet and make one part of its surface more magnetic than the other part and are said to be much stronger than magnetics of the same size.
Could this make the generator able to use smaller and lighter magnets?
Could having one side of the magnets stronger make the the rotor more efficient?


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" D2P: What are some of the applications that you would like design engineers to become more aware of, going forward?


PH: That would depend on what their needs are. For the most part, there’s probably the most potential for this product, initially, in the Max-Attach™ line, where design engineers need to know that ‘Hey, I can get a stronger magnet in the same size as this magnet I’m already designing in. Or, I can potentially make the magnet smaller, so it’s either lighter or less expensive, or just takes up less real estate in my product design. So, that’s something that I think, initially, would be very helpful to design engineers.

And, just looking at it from a new product standpoint, there’s also the safety aspect of the shorter fields in those Max-Attach magnets. They have less chance to interfere with electronics, and less chance to interfere with medical related devices, credit cards, and other things that are sensitive to magnetic fields."
PH: That would depend on what their needs are. For the most part, there’s probably the most potential for this product, initially, in the Max-Attach™ line, where design engineers need to know that ‘Hey, I can get a stronger magnet in the same size as this magnet I’m already designing in. Or, I can potentially make the magnet smaller, so it’s either lighter or less expensive, or just takes up less real estate in my product design. So, that’s something that I think, initially, would be very helpful to design engineers.

And, just looking at it from a new product standpoint, there’s also the safety aspect of the shorter fields in those Max-Attach magnets. They have less chance to interfere with electronics, and less chance to interfere with medical related devices, credit cards, and other things that are sensitive to magnetic fields."
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The technology, developed by co-founder and CEO Larry Fullerton raises the possibility of making complex alternating magnetic fields like those found in wind-turbine generators. The difference would be a high-pole-count rotor could be made from a single magnet, or perhaps fewer chunks of magnetic material. In addition, the fields set up by the magnetic rotor could be tailored to vary smoothly and rapidly as the poles transition from north to south, making wind-turbine generators more efficient. A 30-pole generator prototype provided the proof of concept.

“Turn its crank at two turns per second and you get 60 Hz power, or if you put 60 poles along the circumference, one turn per second generates 60-cycle power,” company Vice-President Ron Jewell said. “We have seen interest for small-scale wind generators as a residential application, and small, portable generators for charging batteries – todays’ soldiers carry a lot of batteries, for example. This printed-magnet approach might serve larger wind-energy generators as well.”
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Can someone more adept in electromotive experiments than I comment on this?

Please?

What are the potential uses of this in things like generators or motors?



The printing process enables them to put both north and south magnet poles onto the same magnet surface.

Further, the printed polarity process strengthens the original magnet pull force 2X-8X.
They have a line of magnets called Max-attach because of how unbelievably strong they are.

Additionally, they are not expensive to make. They can be printed on top of any existing magnet with a flat surface, using
a printer similar to a 3d printer.

Everyone's been asleep on this , imo. These were invented in 2008, and have been available for
two years.

They have one shaped like this for $2.85 each:
Polymagnet: Polymagnet Products

this one is $.99 each

They do arc segment shapes as well, which would be just a curved version of the above.

What about using this one in the ReGenX generator or in some other device instead of the standard magnets?
They do arc segment shapes as well, which would be just a curved version of the above.
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Many experimenters started with a Bedini wheel of magnets. The video you
can hear the man say something VERY important, tho his English is a
mess. If you listen he says that AT ONE POINT the motor does not see
the generator load. He says that it is as if no coil generator was
present. This is due to the nature of the way magnets drag on core
material.

He is the first person, besides myself I have found who has addressed this
question of increases on the prime mover. He says that at the right
tuning the motor does not see the load.



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If you listen, he says when you INCREASE THE LOAD it speeds up.

With my current machine, if I hook up one of the (six) coil pair to a 300 watt bulb and do NOT run the machine at the correct RPM, it will NOT speed up under load. If I add a second 300 watt bulb in parallel, it still will NOT speed up under load. However, if I add a THIRD 300 watt bulb, the amp draw of the motor drops and the motor speeds up.

It is the same thing when a coil pair is connected to a single 12 volt battery. The motor sees the load and slows down. However, if I put a SECOND battery in parallel with the first, or MANY batteries in parallel with the first, the motor will speed up and amp draw will go down.

Connected across 8 batteries in series, each coil pair outputs 257 volts DC at 2.4 amps.

It runs on 36 volts at 22 amps. And I can recover better than 80% of the input power. I am positive I can get the amp draw down more than I have already. I started at the motor drawing 60 amps to turn this rotor with 12 strong neo magnets past 12 coils with iron cores. I believe I know what the "perfect" configuration is now, but unfortunately, I have to build an entirely NEW machine to try it, and I am saving up for that right now. I have a whole $180 of the $1,500 I need, and so I am working on other aspects of the machine that I CAN improve without a complete rebuild to see if production can be increased.

Take a look at the two videos of Gotoluc.WATCH EVERY DAMN SECOND OF THEM. He sees no benefit to the speed up under load, even though he PROVES in the video that it takes place and HOW to do it. What he DOES NOT take into consideration, because he doesn't BELIEVE it, is that you can RECOVER better than 85% of the input energy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr3x0xTqM_k&t=468s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYGM4UlnqTM&t=330s

He is showing what I have been saying for a couple years now. ANY COIL WILL SPEED UP UNDER LOAD AT THE RIGHT FREQUENCY.

But Tesla showed us how, in his patent 512340 to BUILD coils that speed up under load at ANY FREQUENCY. I don't even have the "NEW" coils on this machine. I have only tested them on my coil tester. My results NOW are with coils that are NOT even wound the way Tesla indicates we need to wind them, which Thaine has ALSO proven. I will be putting NEW coils on the machine in the next week or two. I ran out of core material, and I haven't even WOUND them yet because I want to test two before I wind the next 10 and they don't work right.

I've been working to insulate the ceiling and put up drywall on the ceiling in my garage so I can work out there in the summer without dying from the heat. I can stand a little cold in the winter, but not the summer heat. Should be done in the next couple days. It is one giant disaster covered in drywall dust right now.

When I get things all back together I can shoot some video of my older machine, which I now use as a coil tester, and show the amp draw of the motor without coils in place at all, with 2 coils in place, and with two coils under load at non resonance speed and at resonance speed, and with enough load to get it to speed up at ANY frequency. I can also show it running with the NEW coils. Oh what fun.

I'm going to post some stuff on the Basic Free Energy Device thread on exactly HOW to build a coil that will speed up under load, and how to (almost) replicate my machine, but not until I get those coils completely tested under all the conditions I want to test them at. I need to make sure they do NOT heat up when the machine has run for a long time, and I haven't done that yet. Don't want to recommend or show something that may have a significant problem. I can show how to build a COP>2 machine, and then how to recover 80% of the input energy. That gives you an actual COP of between 4-5 I believe. That I will share with everyone. My machine has a COP of probably 20, and it can be improved. I am working on a patent for THAT machine which is why it is in a BLACK BOX right now.
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Connected across 8 batteries in series, each coil pair outputs
257 volts DC at 2.4 amps.


When I get things all back together I can shoot some video of my
older machine........................................... .

and show the

1)amp draw of the motor without coils in place

2) with 2 coils in place,

3) with two coils under load at non resonance speed

4) at resonance speed, and with enough load to get it to speed up at
ANY frequency.

I can also show it running with the NEW coils.

Oh what fun.

...... I will share with everyone.

My machine has a COP of probably 20, and it can be improved.
Thanks Dave

I know I can count on you for that. Anything short leaves many
out of the loop. Once we can establish the simple speed up as a
fact the rest is all down hill. It is time for Luc to build by following
your lead.

How thick headed people can be, I know I have been stubborn. It really
is a shame that men are so easily offended, so proud, so high minded.

I like Luc and all of the racist comments others have made mean
nothing, he is a great person.

What you are showing and saying is not hard. It is always good to hear
from you Dave, so much given and I am able to receive this of which
I am glad.

That drywall dust will get you so use a mask. If you insulate well a small
popcorn peanut AC unit will take the edge off on those 110 degree
days. I was surprised to find that my old AC unit for a single room
drew 6-7 amps and the same 5000 btu rated one these days only
takes 3-4 amps.

I am going to watch the video's you posted then comment at a later
date. EVERY DAMN SECOND HEY?




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Thane Heins is back with a vengeance. Verbal explanations.

Thane has been doing this explanation 15 years.


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Thane's RegenX Video series on Tesla Bifilar coils that SUUL
or coils the accelerate the rotor while collecting generated power
as is normal for generators.


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Part 3 in the new video series. This should have people see what a
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Part 3 in the new video series. This should have people see what a
Tesla bifilar coil can do.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqbrjuzeT34

I video part 3 Thane shows and talks about his motoring stepper
style run rotor using bifilar coils to capture flyback energy when the
pulses are turned off. I can only imagine where to start to build
something like this. Dave tells us he is electronically challenged
in this dept so he must depend on others to build circuit boards
that operate with flyback coils, or Tesla coils.

Another thing I notice about Thane's videos is he goes out of his way
to point out amps going back to a single or even two batteries at 16vdc
in this case but the input voltages are 50-60-70volts listed right next
to the watts on his power meter. Yet Thane still continues to demo
showing only a couple of scooter batteries than can only produce
22 vdc under those kinds of loaded conditions.

Where are all of Thanes big batteries? Or is he using modules to convert
up to the right voltages? Boost converters? thane shows a stepper motor
setting on the bench in one video then never shows it running that I can
see in the following tests.

This is confusing to me. Is there a hidden stepper motor? Like the one
on his table running the disks? I don't think so because looking at his
setup he shows two sections, one for generating and on the right side
is the motoring rotor. The right hand motoring section looks no different
than the left side generating rotor.

Then Thane calls the motor coils regenX coils. In other videos he shows
a simple collection circuit for flyback to the little batteries and the motor
is able to produce more power coming back than is supplied as prime
mover energy all at less then 300 rpm's

These are my observations. If anyone with an advanced knowledge
of electronics could direct me to a simple circuit to cause bifilar coils
to collect energy back to the batteries? I would be much obliged.

I need to learn the basics of recovering energy back to the source with
these Tesla coils as well as using them at speeds well over 2500 rpm's.


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Thanks Bromikey,
Really enjoy watching and trying to understand these videos.

Hope success in your builds here.
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Bifilar or single winding?

Bromikey,
Did Thane mention bifilar or single winding coils? I didn't hear that. But will listen and pay more attention second watching. Those small "C" shaped coils produce 50 amps ? I'm sure the winding of his coils is proprietary, don't you think. Or do you know something the rest of us don't.

Lot's of questions, sorry.
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Bromikey,
Did Thane mention bifilar or single winding coils?
YES WE NEED TO GO OVER COILS!!

The coils and many other details are left out quite often in video demo.
The reason is that in Thanes patent applications his coil designs are talked
about. The coils listed are bifilar.

What we need to keep alive are the throwing around of general idea's
associated with these concepts till we have them settled in our hearts.

The phase "Those skilled in the art" just means those who have taken
out the time to practice up running motors and generators while mentally
documenting experimental data not always found in a book so easy.


In the Tesla patent "COILS for Electromagnets" UPS - 512340 points out
the use of the bifilar coil just as men like John B. who Thane heins gave
honor to. Also when you look a Thanes video demo coils you will see 4
leads on each one. 2 leads going into the coil (Bifilar) and 2 leads going
out of the coil.

If we read the Tesla patent we hear Tesla "HARPING" on the expression
"Potential Difference" this is the company title of Thane's corporation.


This all is what leads me to think that a simple Bedini circuit with bifilar
motor coils could be the basis of Thanes RegenXtra designs for bigger
high speed application.

Going for coffee and I'll be back.

We expect nothing from most in this area of explanation as they are not
able to build a stepper motor in the first place and this is what Thane calls
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The basics of stepper motors

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Here is what Thane H. is referring to when he says he is using a
stepper motor. He means he has permanent magnets and precisely
controled coil phases. With good phase control he collects BEMF back
to the battery not at all what a stepper motor does.



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Another explanation of the basic operation of PMM stepping.



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Cheater drive for stepper motor.


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A picture is worth a thousand words.

50* sine wave shift, 90* shift

All input values in AC voltages from a battery thru an inverter board.

Output or load current measured DC from converter board also AC
voltages shown. Since speeds of 3000 rpm's and higher are observed
we can conclude a high enough frequency of operation should warrant
the use a fast of ultra fast recovery bridge diode converters.

Picture stills have been enlarged from HQ video.

Load no load visual, you decide. The biggest shock to me was the AC
inputs. Cos power factor. Drive voltage 30-40-50-113vac from a module.

I apologize for all of the scrolling on such large foto's but this is very
important to me.

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Determining motor or generator frequency

The number of poles (magnetic poles) and the rotational speed determine
the output frequency: Freq = Engine_RPM * Number_Of_Poles / 120.
Typically, a United States portable generator runs at 3600 RPM,
with 2 poles, for a design frequency of 60Hz


Carrying this out we can calculate but before I do the submarines
and other large 1900's generators had 20 poles like I do on my genny.
In Thanes case 24 poles. The old generators of the past and present
using 20- 24 pole ran at 300-400 rpm's to get the 50-60HZ needed.

Working in reverse we can see the 2 pole motor calculation and in my
case running 20 poles at 3600 rpm's I am operating at 600hz.


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The magnets must sit tightly together. Otherwise it won't work.

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The magnets must sit tightly together. Otherwise it won't work.

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Tightly together? How do you mean? What won't work? Some have
only 6 magnets and others 8 magnets and it works to generate and
speed up under a load.

Maybe rotor magnets pushed tightly together are a more efficient
means of generating? I am not sure what you mean by "IT WON'T WORK"
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