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Old 06-24-2019, 04:23 PM
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Can you not even read?

I just acknowledged that Turion is close to proving that he has
made a major breakthrough.

I also asked

- whether or not the independent lab is looping this
- how this ties in with Thane's IP

Should it all turn out to be as good as it looks, those are the next
questions which come to mind.

pot has turned you paranoid , btw.
I told you that I $upport PDI and ReGenx and that I want this to succeed.
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Old 06-24-2019, 05:00 PM
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I used the info Tesla provided in HIS patent, which is now expired and in the public domain to wind my coils which consist of several wires wound in parallel and connected in series. Thane claims in his patent that all such coils are his intellectual property, but I beg to differ.

I have had my generator tested at this same independent lab before. They measured the input, which is the number I claim. They measured the output of one coil pair to a load, which is the number I claim. When I explained that each coil pair put out this much power, the EE in charge of testing walked out and never came back. Some tech guys tried to finish the testing, but because I had six coil pair with each pair hooked up to a separate load, they did not have enough meters to verify that all coil pairs were putting out the same amount of energy at the same time, and could only verify three coil pair at once. Therefore the TOTAL output of the machines never verified. But I know what I know because I DO have enough meters. I have NEVER attempted to loop the system. All I care about is that it exists. I have been working to make it BETTER all this time, and still am, although it is no longer a priority. I have since talked with the owner of the lab and there will be no problem next time getting an accurate test. By the way, I did not PAY for the last one. Since it was never correctly completed, nor did they provide me with a written report. But it gave me the information I needed. A couple other people know this story, as I related it to them at the time, but because I have NO RESULTS OF TESTING TO SHOW, I have not mentioned it before.

That the magnetic neutralization works is apparent in the amp draw of the motor.

As to the water cooling. I have seen it on a LIMITED SCALE with TWO COILS, but there is no reason it shouldn't work for ALL the coils. I tested on TWO coils on my coil tester to see if linking two coils with water circulating past the core caused some sort of magnetic field interference. None was noted. I haven't had it working on my big machine. The machinist is working on that now.

That's where I am. I know this works. It is all simple stuff. How much power can a coil put out? Now x that by the number of coils. That is your output. Your input is whatever it costs you to turn the rotor as if there were NO COILS WITH CORES in place. It's NOT rocket science. You want more output, add more coils or magnets. Your COST does not go up unless you increase weight of rotor.
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Old 06-24-2019, 05:10 PM
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So all that needs to be done is to combine the coil outputs and
engineer battery recharge.
And with the water cooling machined in it is that much farther
along... and able to run for extended range provability X number of
hours.
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:09 PM
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Can you not even read?

I just acknowledged that Turion is close to proving that he has
made a major breakthrough.

I also asked

- whether or not the independent lab is looping this
- how this ties in with Thane's IP

Should it all turn out to be as good as it looks, those are the next
questions which come to mind.

pot has turned you paranoid , btw.
I told you that I $upport PDI and ReGenx and that I want this to succeed.
Let me once explain to you.
You are irrelevant and can be made so.
If I were paranoid I would seek you out for being a threat and hope you have clean underwear on.
You have not explained anything to me.
You were badgering in what I saw written.
If you support Turion in what is written and I misunderstood then I can admit to a mistake.
Otherwise be careful who you call paranoid.
I can read and speak several languages, you just have to guess which.

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Old 06-24-2019, 08:54 PM
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- how this ties in with Thane's IP


pot has turned you paranoid , btw.


I told you that I $upport PDI and ReGenx and that I want this to succeed.



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This is sounding like you are close to a major breakthrough.

What are your plans?

Will you patent aspects of this?

How does ReGenX figure into all of this?

Are you using aspects of the patented ReGenx process in this?
Hey goodie2shoes
RegenX is the name thane uses for the lenz free coils Dave taught him
to wind a decade ago. Did you see "COMA" that is a movie.

What is your address? Do you have any plans to hide your telephone#

How about the size of your shoe? How about "patent" leather" ones?

Anyways in the movie people get their plugs pulled.

I think you are not having a breakthrough more a breakdown, enjoy
the show. Its movie time.
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:22 PM
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Bro Mikey,
I didn't teach Thane anything about coils, and he didn't teach me anything. I got what I know from Tesla's old patent. I don't know WHERE Thane got what he knows.

Doogy,
With my design the back and of the coil and coil core is exposed, so extending the core a bit and submersing it in water to keep it cooler seems like a no brainer, unless the water affects the magnetic field. As far as I can tell it does NOT, but there has been no long term testing go this. Just me with some epoxy, pvc pipe, and a bucket of water. Not that scientific. That's why I am having the work done on my big machine.

You have to understand that NONE of these versions of the machine were designed with the intention of going into production. Each version was designed to solve problems that came up in a previous version. I have built like sixteen different versions of this generator. I have video or pictures of all of them either on my phone or on my old computer. They were all built to TEST different ideas and possible improvements. I am still learning, and chances are I will always have SOME version of this machine hanging around to use to charge batteries and such.
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:54 PM
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Bro Mikey,
I didn't teach Thane anything about coils, and he didn't teach me anything. I got what I know from Tesla's old patent. I don't know WHERE Thane got what he knows.

Doogy,
With my design the back and of the coil and coil core is exposed, so extending the core a bit and submersing it in water to keep it cooler seems like a no brainer, unless the water affects the magnetic field. As far as I can tell it does NOT, but there has been no long term testing go this. Just me with some epoxy, pvc pipe, and a bucket of water. Not that scientific. That's why I am having the work done on my big machine.

You have to understand that NONE of these versions of the machine were designed with the intention of going into production. Each version was designed to solve problems that came up in a previous version. I have built like sixteen different versions of this generator. I have video or pictures of all of them either on my phone or on my old computer. They were all built to TEST different ideas and possible improvements. I am still learning, and chances are I will always have SOME version of this machine hanging around to use to charge batteries and such.

Freeze frame, just snapped your picture.

Now it's off to work and to hear these things thrills me to no end,
16 versions one after another to improve the next and so it will be all
the way up to a factory model.

@skeptics and Drones
Coming soon to a theater near you.

the water cooling is done something like that for PC CPU's and all
sorts of devices. Great job Dave. I have to run for now but this takes
the cake at the start of my day. We will never pass this way again.

The new lab will or should treat you better than the old lab. I hope.
What a lab it was, to be short on meters, what a bunch of slugs. I
found out the many of the high profile agencies like Lab's or Child care
organizations are often a front only for dirty money. A dirty lab has been
told to stonewall all extra energy producing device, patent pending
not included.

In the Child Care spheres of circulation many arrests are underway.
Criminals look good on the surface and have been running companies
for a different purpose than what is stated in the header.
This is probably why you are having an obstacle here and there.
We won't let that bother us.

Patent wars are a mess and hard to get over a decade or two time
period. Thanes patents will be expired before you know it and people
will ask "Thane who"? Remember Don Smith? I do, he was all over
the web in the 90's, history lessen 101

Thane was on the same boards in the beginning and we all learned
from one another as each day posts were made to point in any
given direction.

Thane does not even wind these Tasla Patent coils anymore, he just
uses the concept to attract attention, I see now what he is doing.
I hope he gets a factory model soon.

Everyone learns from everyone on these boards and then it all gets
deleted can't prove a thing, "Its mine Its mine Its All mine"
Don Smith never acted that way but he was entangled with investors
and patents over money.

Freely you have received Freely you gave Dave and keep on giving.
That is the manifestation of YOU. I didn't do that nor did you know
this would happen. It is clear tho. This is the gift.





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Old 06-25-2019, 02:14 AM
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You have to understand that NONE of these versions of the machine were designed with the intention of going into production. Each version was designed to solve problems that came up in a previous version. I have built like sixteen different versions of this generator. I have video or pictures of all of them either on my phone or on my old computer. They were all built to TEST different ideas and possible improvements. I am still learning, and chances are I will always have SOME version of this machine hanging around to use to charge batteries and such.
there is nothing wrong with going into production or collaborating with an existing entity like that of Thane Heins'. If you can bring valued R&D forward , why not work together? Why not make a ton of money along the way...
If you are efficiently or freely recharging batteries with this already...
why keep it to yourself. Cut a deal, get them out there.
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Old 06-25-2019, 05:36 AM
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Keeping it to myself?

Doogy,
What is it you think I am keeping to myself about this generator? Rather than go for a patent and make tons of money, as Thane is attempting to do, I released every single detail on this forum. If Thane wants to know ANYTHING about my generator, it is all HERE, except for how I connected a bunch of pvc pipe together around the coil cores to keep them cooled, which is grade school stuff. That is in the process of being worked out, so hasn't even been done on the actual machine, just on my coil tester to see if it would work. He can read the threads and find every single detail.
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Old 06-26-2019, 01:10 PM
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I am still learning, and chances are I will always have SOME version of this machine hanging around to use to charge batteries and such.
input power is 288 watts. And you are getting 195 watts per coil out.
Now you need a way to add more coils and combine the coil outputs,
as you stated.

once you are getting batteries recharged with FREE energy...

Don't just leave this in your work shop
Am I missing something here?

You said that you already extended the range of a stock motor and battery setup.

So you have free energy already, and are on the verge of
what looks to be loopable motor with virtually unlimited output.


Why plan to do nothing with it?
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Old 06-26-2019, 06:32 PM
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Freeze frame, just snapped your picture.

Now it's off to work and to hear these things thrills me to no end,
16 versions one after another to improve the next and so it will be all
the way up to a factory model.

@skeptics and Drones
Coming soon to a theater near you.

the water cooling is done something like that for PC CPU's and all
sorts of devices. Great job Dave. I have to run for now but this takes
the cake at the start of my day. We will never pass this way again.

The new lab will or should treat you better than the old lab. I hope.
What a lab it was, to be short on meters, what a bunch of slugs. I
found out the many of the high profile agencies like Lab's or Child care
organizations are often a front only for dirty money. A dirty lab has been
told to stonewall all extra energy producing device, patent pending
not included.

In the Child Care spheres of circulation many arrests are underway.
Criminals look good on the surface and have been running companies
for a different purpose than what is stated in the header.
This is probably why you are having an obstacle here and there.
We won't let that bother us.

Patent wars are a mess and hard to get over a decade or two time
period. Thanes patents will be expired before you know it and people
will ask "Thane who"? Remember Don Smith? I do, he was all over
the web in the 90's, history lessen 101

Thane was on the same boards in the beginning and we all learned
from one another as each day posts were made to point in any
given direction.

Thane does not even wind these Tasla Patent coils anymore, he just
uses the concept to attract attention, I see now what he is doing.
I hope he gets a factory model soon.

Everyone learns from everyone on these boards and then it all gets
deleted can't prove a thing, "Its mine Its mine Its All mine"
Don Smith never acted that way but he was entangled with investors
and patents over money.

Freely you have received Freely you gave Dave and keep on giving.
That is the manifestation of YOU. I didn't do that nor did you know
this would happen. It is clear tho. This is the gift.


I have no clue what the hell this tempest in a teapot is really all about but I do sympathize a great deal with what Bro Mikey has said here and elsewhere throughout this thread. As for profiting from invention, and by way of patents, well I think you have be borderline delusional to think that's going to happen. You have to be out of touch to think for one second that a patent on any disruptive technology will avail you one cent, and if it's a big enough money maker, or too disruptive you're gambling with your life and probably the lives of the rest of your family and friends.

It's a fool's errand.


Now then, I muddled through this thread trying to gather what this is all about since doggy posted the image of the coil's.
Optical illusion or magnetic light refraction?

Did I miss it or are there like schematics somewhere to look at?
Also Bro Mikey, why have you got your PM's turned off?
How can I send hate mail if you have your PM's turned off?

Oh...never mind...I see I can message you now.
This wireless keyboard is dyslexic, possibly mildly retarded too; I'm sure it's not me.
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Old 06-30-2019, 09:09 AM
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Hey thanks Gambeir glad we have common ground, patents won't
save the day I am afraid and in some cases in the past have costed
people many hardships. Isn't that sad? ken W has found out interesting
things about magnetic's I am sure but to patent them? I don't know.

The way we are using magnets to help with motors that generate power
is very simple. First step is to use and motor like say a scooter motor
to turn a rotor with magnets so coils can be placed around the rotor
making or generating power. This is a standard practice in engineering
today. What makes ours different is our coils do not drag down the
scooter drive motor like all other conventional ones do.

Our coils help the scooter drive motor once up to the full speed say
3000 rpm or like Turion he runs at 2800rpm. Well anyway the point is
that these special coils are lenz free. These coils give power while
assisting the drive motor not like all standard generators that slow
down the drive motor when power is drawn off the generator coils.

This is step one. #2 is to use magnets another way while what I just
described to you takes place. The extra magnets used are another
no-brainer. These extra ones are added in directly across from where
the generator magnet come into contact with the coil cores.

What happens is that the drive motor gets another break and the power
to drive it goes down again. With these two ideas COP >20 is being
achieved.

All patents do is give the controlling faction a way to bury the technology.

It is real simple stuff just got to wrap your head around the basics and
then all the lights turn on.

RegenX coils is what one person named them but these coils come out
of a 1 page patent in 1900 by N. Telsa "Coils for electromagnets" that
is what Tesla named them.

Now take a Briggs gasoline engine instead of a scooter motor as a driver.
With a Briggs connected to a generator head upon drawing power off
of it the gas motor will begin to labor. It does not slow down because
it has a governor that presses on the gas pedal so to speak to keep the
RPM's the same. Just like a mower in tall grass gets heavily loaded you
hear it labor and more gasoline is used.

With these coils generating on a gasoline powered engine when power
begins to be drawn off the opposite happens, the gasoline motor does not
need more fuel it needs less and yet we get power.

This makes it possible to put as many generating coils as you
can physical arrange without any extra fuel needed.
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Old 06-30-2019, 02:51 PM
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ken W has found out interesting
things about magnetic's I am sure

COP >20 is being achieved.

Briggs gasoline engine

scooter motor
Only with engine Plasma Tech and motor Aether Tech


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