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Old 11-23-2015, 09:28 PM
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Joseph Henry's 1842 and 1843 Out of Doors Electrical Transmission Experiments.

Some of you may know me from the Overunity Forum where I contributed as Synchro1. Citfta, or Carroll from Energetic Forum showed up over there a few months ago and began to complain about me; Now I'm on moderated status as a consequence. Therefore, I'm back over here with this new thread as Allen Burgess.

My first Bedini coil was a shop wound bifilar solenoid of 800 turns of 28 gauge magnet wire with a welding rod core. I placed it on the kitchen counter and connected the coil wires serially like the Tesla Pancake. Then I snapped a spark across the coil to energize it. A full "Cutlery Rack" slid 10 feet down the counter and stopped short of colliding with the coil. I had succeeded in "Impulse Magnetizing" the carving knives with a spark from a 12 volt Radio Shack battery! The experience was traumatic! The power from that spark was overwhelmingly awesome!

Nearly all of Joseph Henry's (Unit of Inductance Fame) experimental records were destroyed by a fire at the Smithsonian in 1864. I came across one that survived. This thread will discuss "Magnetization at a Distance" from a single spark, and the experiments of Joseph Henry. Henry is credited with the first wireless transmission and as the real father of the radio; However, he wasn't interested in the transmission value, but rather the power in the "Magnet Wave" like Nicola Tesla.
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Some of you may know me from the Overunity Forum where I contributed as Synchro1. Citfta, or Carroll from Energetic Forum showed up over there a few months ago and began to complain about me; Now I'm on moderated status as a consequence. Therefore, I'm back over here with this new thread as Allen Burgess.

My first Bedini coil was a shop wound bifilar solenoid of 800 turns of 28 gauge magnet wire with a welding rod core. I placed it on the kitchen counter and connected the coil wires serially like the Tesla Pancake. Then I snapped a spark across the coil to energize it. A full "Cutlery Rack" slid 10 feet down the counter and stopped short of colliding with the coil. I had succeeded in "Impulse Magnetizing" the carving knives with a spark from a 12 volt Radio Shack battery! The experience was traumatic! The power from that spark was overwhelmingly awesome!

Nearly all of Joseph Henry's (Unit of Inductance Fame) experimental records were destroyed by a fire at the Smithsonian in 1864. I came across one that survived. This thread will discuss "Magnetization at a Distance" from a single spark, and the experiments of Joseph Henry. Henry is credited with the first wireless transmission and as the real father of the radio; However, he wasn't interested in the transmission value, but rather the power in the "Magnet Wave" like Nicola Tesla.
Some of his records of experiment books have been scanned and are at:

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Old 11-24-2015, 01:53 AM
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@john g,

Thank you very much. The only reference to "Impulse Magnetization at a Distance" I could find in the treatise was this:

"In 1843, lightning successfully charged a set of needles Henry had connected to the roof of his house with wire. "This apparatus magnetizes a needle in my study by every flash of lightning which takes place within a circuit of 20 miles in diameter around".

I tried unsuccessfully to copy the Hyper-link to Henry's experiments and failed.

Apparently Henry was charging a Leyden Jar capacitor in his third floor laboratory with a hand cranked Wimhurst friction generator when he accidently discharged the capacitor and generated a spark! Later, he inspected some sewing needles he had stored in a basement vault, under cinder blocks, a Tin roof and awnings etc. to discover the needles were powerfully magnetized. This was a landmark event in History and led him to the lightning tests.

His experiments at Princeton on "Magnetizing at a distance" are the subject of the paper. I believe you can access the PDF if you type the thread title into the Google search engine.
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Old 11-24-2015, 04:52 AM
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Magnetic induction.

Take a look at this video by Russ Gries, demonstrating the Leedskalnin effect:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhiAIsJCS9Y

Based on Henry's experiments, driving one grounded copper pipe surrounded by let's say eight grounded pipes in a circle; Then we need 54 hex nuts, and 9 coils of wire like Russ's. Each coil would be grounded on one end and a spark gap linked to the other. It would help to include a few coil loops of identical number in all the wires. The experiment should lock the eight groups of 6 hex nuts with one spark from a 12 volt battery in the center. The negative electrode wired to the ground, and the positive to the top part of the center wire looped through the nuts as Russ shows in his video. One spark should lock all 54 hex nuts! Think of the implications this test would have for anyone wondering what Tesla's Wardenclyffe wireless power transmitter had to offer.
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Ground wire.

A simpler way to test for multiple locks from a single pulse would be to start out with 12 hex nuts, 3 wire coils of the same length and thickness, and two thin gauge magnet wires for grounds. The hex nuts would be placed on two small square boards with holes through the center and wire coils through them with tiny spark gaps of equal distance. These boards, nuts and coils would then be seperated to far ends of a room and the two thin magnet wires attaced to one end of the coil wires. These two ground wires would join at the center to the negative electrode of a 12 volt battery. Two clip wires would then join the same "gap distanced" third transmitter wire coil loop to the battery electrodes for the locking spark. Naturally this would constitute a "Wireless Transmission" if the grounds were connected through the Earth. This is a lot less complex then Eric Dollard's "Crystal Radio" build to test the "Multiple Receiver" theory of the longitudinal magnet wave! Coils of one turn; Infernally simple!

The speed of the gravity wave has recently been calculated as not less than 2x10 to the 10th power times c. That's 20 billion times the speed of light, or what amounts to an instantaneous event!
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Capacitor and controlled point gap discharge.

It would help to solder two brass balls to the ends of the wire loops. A small plastic positioner screw and clamp could then precisely narrow the spark gap to within a micro millimeter on the single loop receiver and broadcast coil. A set of automotive point gap feelers could then be used to closely tailor a very precise spark gap.

A 1 u farad capacitor could be charged to a specific level. The "Snap" discharged through a tiny "Mouse Trap" with an aluminum foil ground. One electrode from the capacitor attached to the spring side of the trap the other to the aluminum foil floor of the trap bed. Releasing the spring would maximize the voltage from the controlled capacitor discharge through the precisely gauged spark gap. These small improvements would add "Radio Quality" control to the magnetic latch experiment. This first experiment would only involve latching one set of 6 Hex Nuts remotely with a common ground.

The receiver single coil loop would run through the hole in the board like Russ (RWG) shows in his video, with the small brass ball spark gap electrodes held in position by the plastic clamp and positioner screw. One side of the loop would then be connected to the negative ground electrode of the 1 uF capacitor.

The broadcast loop would be positioned facing the single loop receiver coil alone. Both it's brass ball electrodes attached to the mouse trap as described to receive the precisely regulated Hi-Voltage capacitor discharge. This would repeat Joseph Henry's "Magnetization at a Distance" experiment, except instead of magnetizing sewing needles inside coils remotely through a common ground, we'd be triggering an Ed Leedskalnin locking event with great precision. One such locking success would act as a milestone in the history of "Magnetization at a Distance"! Next we could move on to separating the coils by a distance then moving to an Earth ground and experimenting with multiple receivers. Engineered this way, this system has the potential to lock any number of Hex Nuts wirelessly from a single spark anywhere on the Earth instantaneously! How fiendishly simple compared to Eric Dollard's "Crystal Radio" design to demonstrate the value of Nicola Tesla's longitudinal wave Wardenclyffe power transmission system! Success with this approach would help sell Tesla's system to the World and possibly alter the course of History. I studied under Eric Dollard from the wings during his "Borderland Era" up in Garberville California, and would like to acknowledge his value as a teacher.
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This is a comment and quote from Citfta from the OU forum:

See the included quote which indicates power is drawn from the transmitter under the system designed by Tesla. This quote comes from a 14 Mb document I found on the internet by Valone. It is called Harnessing the Wheelwork of Nature by Thomas Valone. It is too large for me to upload as an attachment. I thought these comments by Tesla would clear up the recent questions asked.

Quote from Tesla: Tesla states, "As to the transmission of power through space, that is a project which I considered absolutely certain of success long since. Years ago I was in the position to transmit wireless power to any distance without limit other than that imposed by the physical dimensions of the globe. In my system it makes no difference what the distance is. The efficiency of the transmission can be as high as 96 or 97 per cent, and there are practically no losses except such as are inevitable in the running of the machinery. When there is no receiver there is no energy consumption anywhere. When the receiver is put on, it draws power. That is the exact opposite of the Hertz-wave system. In that case, if you have a plant of 1,000 horsepower (750 kW), it is radiating all the time whether the energy is received or not; but in my system no power is lost. When there are no receivers, the plant consumes only a few horsepower necessary to maintain the vibration; it runs idle, as the Edison plant when the lamps and motors are shut off."

Tesla states his "World Wide Power Transmisson system" consumed a few horsepower to idle. What would the COP of his system look like as the energy receivers came on line and drew power? COP=1, or COP>1?

The question is: If multiple locknut units we're increased, perhaps we would need to increase the capacitor charge, but what would the ratio of input to receiver "Locking power" amount to?

Tesla had a lead acid battery bank and a receiver meter at the base of his Wardenclyffe tower. He was able to turn the frequency up on the transmitter to instantly meet demand this way. The battery bank was charged by a coal powered generator! The reason J.P. Morgan had the tower torn down is that he asked Tesla; "Why is there no rail spur for coal delivery"? Tesla answered; "We only need a small pile"! That's what doomed the project!
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Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power "No distance Limits" thread by Ramset.

Quote from Forest:

Fairy tale fairy tale...you read too much tales.... cifta is correct
Tesla abandoned Wardenclyffe because :

2.-It never was planned to be overunity, it was planned to send power generated by hydropower plants.

Citfta's respose:

I agree with your statement #2.
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Old 11-28-2015, 09:39 AM
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Skycollection's multifilar voltage test.

I experimented with twelve 120 volt LEDS in series and parellel with a "Kill-a-watt" meter, luman meter, analog amp meter and DMM for voltage. The voltage always remained constant across the load from the 120 volt wall outlet, while the amperage was shared, which means it dropped in proportion to the number of bulbs.

Skycollection measured the input to his LEDS from his oscillating "Multifilar" pancake coils and found the voltage was shared with a constant drain time on his capacitors. What's the lesson here from these two lighting approaches? The amperage held constant while the voltage dropped with his inductive transformer's multiple bulbs; Just the opposite from the wall power illumination!

Skycollection's "Multifilar" inductive transformer works the same way Tesla's Wardenclyffe power oscillator worked by generating a "Longitudinal Magnet Wave" to sustain a constant amperage. When a new load appeared in the form of a voltage drop on Wardenclyffe's meter, Tesla simply increased the power to his large primary coil by turning up the battery input up to increase the voltage of his oscillating resonant transformer. When his batteries discharged sufficiently, he recharged them with a coal fired turbine generator. The watts to the multipal loads remained constant. This meant that all Tesla's transformer had to do was increase the voltage to balance the load! The power supply was instantaneous. It costs alot less to generate hi-voltage then it does amperage. Amperage needs a hyro-electric turbine to generate it; Voltage is generated simply by increasing the oscillation frequency of the hi-voltage transformer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nszbx0P93z4

What would happen if Skycollection ran his oscillating power into the ground with a variable capacitor attached to a battery, then fed the power wirelessly to multiple receivers? I would really like a response from our mentor, Eric Dollard.
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SkyCollection is oscillating a single series-wound bifilar coil, and at 50 seconds into the video tells us that the other coils are not connected. In one of his other videos, he says that the coils are inductively coupled.

We know from Tesla's pancake coil patent that this swbifi coil config generates considerably higher voltage than the one stranded pancake coil. There are plenty of writers out there that would say that the opposing strands in the swbifi coil also cancel out their magnetic fields (and therefore amperage), not to mention increasing capacitance between windings.

Some of these writers will say that this coil is generating scalar or longitudinal magneto-dielectric waves or impulses (which you mention).

My question to you is:
- Where is the amperage to light these LEDs coming from?

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Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power "No distance Limits" thread by Ramset.

Quote from Forest:

Fairy tale fairy tale...you read too much tales.... cifta is correct
Tesla abandoned Wardenclyffe because :

2.-It never was planned to be overunity, it was planned to send power generated by hydropower plants.

Citfta's respose:

I agree with your statement #2.

I also posted that question was badly formulated. In fact the transmission model has nothing to do with overunity. ;-) It has to be single wire or longitudinal current simply because we have no return wire ;-) (Earth is "mechanically" alone in space).

Tesla explained it beautifully :
From my circuit you can get either electromagnetic waves, 90 percent of electromagnetic waves if you like, and 10 percent in the current energy that passes through the earth. Or, you can reverse the process and get 10 percent of the energy in electromagnetic waves and 90 percent in energy of the current that passes through the earth.

It is just like this: I have invented a knife. The knife can cut with the sharp edge. I tell the man who applies my invention, you must cut with the sharp edge. I know perfectly well you can cut butter with the blunt edge, but my knife is not intended for this. You must not make the antenna give off 90 percent in electromagnetic and 10 percent in current waves, because the electromagnetic waves are lost by the time you are a few arcs around the planet, while the current travels to the uttermost distance of the globe and can be recovered.

but he also previously noted that the proper "handling" of electricity is possible by two methods....he put a lot of effords on second one - the transmission of power by single wire from the origin ;-)
the second one he did not wanted to talk.....

BECAUSE it was COMMON but very very secret knowledge !

I bet it was known well before Faraday death
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SkyCollection is oscillating a single series-wound bifilar coil, and at 50 seconds into the video tells us that the other coils are not connected. In one of his other videos, he says that the coils are inductively coupled.

We know from Tesla's pancake coil patent that this swbifi coil config generates considerably higher voltage than the one stranded pancake coil. There are plenty of writers out there that would say that the opposing strands in the swbifi coil also cancel out their magnetic fields (and therefore amperage), not to mention increasing capacitance between windings.

Some of these writers will say that this coil is generating scalar or longitudinal magneto-dielectric waves or impulses (which you mention).

My question to you is:
- Where is the amperage to light these LEDs coming from?

Bob
C'mon Bob - I'm SURE you know ! Of course from ether all around us ! THINK ! The answer is in ALL Tesla lectures , quotes, articles...just digg them and combine....



P.S. Here I must post again video about my favourite inventor - favourite because he COULD change our world, but was supressed as one of very first :-( And they now DARE to attain aggrement at COP21 in France ???? WHY, my God ? They have solution for 100 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ylYgUOfUzY
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C'mon Bob - I'm SURE you know ! Of course from ether all around us ! THINK ! The answer is in ALL Tesla lectures , quotes, articles...just digg them and combine....



P.S. Here I must post again video about my favourite inventor - favourite because he COULD change our world, but was supressed as one of very first :-( And they now DARE to attain aggrement at COP21 in France ???? WHY, my God ? They have solution for 100 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ylYgUOfUzY
Heh heh. Boguslaw, you know me too well!
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You have probably seen demos like the attached video on YouTube, but in case you haven't, this is a similar situation,using far LESS voltage than you would get with a lightning strike. but showing how magnetism can be induced WITHOUT direct contact by the wires.

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Linked induction.

This video by Skycollection is the next step of linked inductance running off 12 volts of supercaps: He's multiplying the number of bulbs simply by raising the voltage! This is an Overunity progression. Would it be possible to use the Earth as additional coils?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZgqoJ_DCTs
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This video by Skycollection is the next step of linked inductance running off 12 volts of supercaps: He's multiplying the number of bulbs simply by raising the voltage! This is an Overunity progression. Would it be possible to use the Earth as additional coils?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZgqoJ_DCTs
I am skycollection, from Mexico, my principal problem is that i have no experience
in electronics, i studied ECONOMY but my hobby is the TESLA PANCAKE COILS
and the other problem is that i have no economic resoucers to buy technology
instruments to measure the panckake coils. I based my experiments like a blind man, anyway i hope someone can make a replication of the multifilar pancake coils. Saludos...!
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I am skycollection, from Mexico, my principal problem is that i have no experience
in electronics, i studied ECONOMY but my hobby is the TESLA PANCAKE COILS
and the other problem is that i have no economic resoucers to buy technology
instruments to measure the panckake coils. I based my experiments like a blind man, anyway i hope someone can make a replication of the multifilar pancake coils. Saludos...!
Well..welcome to the club! I have also so limited, probably even more then you. Your method of winding pancake coils is brillant ! I really like to replicate it .
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Hydrostor.

This is the highest state of the art in "Electrical Grid" conservation; Stores "Off Peak" energy in balloon batteries:

Canada Plans to Store Energy in Giant Underwater Balloons | Digital Trends

Tesla:

"When there is no receiver there is no energy consumption anywhere. When the receiver is put on, it draws power. That is the exact opposite of the Hertz-wave system. In that case, if you have a plant of 1,000 horsepower (750 kW), it is radiating all the time whether the energy is received or not".
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I am planning to build a new "multifilar pancake coil" soon, but with different ohms resistance, i have only one coil pentafilar, septefilar, quadrifilar, etc, but i need more results and more tests, the pancake coils are amazing...!
the next multifilar pancake coil will be "inside of a permanent magnet" with ferrite magnets and with this, is possible to get more output voltage...!
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Multi-filar pancake coil

The multifilar PANCAKE COIL consist of a group of six pancake coils, every group have four pancake coils connected in “series”. In total i have 24 pancake coils inside of the PVC PIPE and all the groups are insulated from each other, only one of the six groups is connected to the circuit and the other five groups, they are not connected, only with the bulb of leds, they are “like pickup coils”
When i pulse the circuit, one of the groups “induces” the voltage to the rest of the groups and the leds turn on with great intensity...!
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multifilar pancake coils

Multifilar pancake coil is not easy to build...!
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Hi Jorge,
I looked at your pdf , I am curious to what the core is ?
To be clear you have 4 coils per group correct? 6 groups?
Are they 4 bi-filar windings connected in series to make one group or are they 4 single wound coils in series to make one group?
I'll wind some to give it a try.
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Multifilar pancake coils

One group consist is four "single pancake coils" connected in "series", the other groups are the same, all the groups are isolated from each other and only one group is connected to the circuit, one group "induces" the voltage to the rest of the other groups with very high intensity...!
In my multifilar pancake coil it was not necessary to use "bifilar" pancake coils, i used "single wire" and the result is the same...!
Saludos from mexico...jorge
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Multifilar pancake coils

Ha, i forget to say that the core is "ferrite" i am using ferrite core down and on top (two ferrite plates) and two ferrite ring magnets
is with the objetive to make experimentation..!
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Excess Base-Load Capacity.

Where does "Excess Base-Load Capacity" go when adjacent reservoirs of different heights are unavailable?

"In many places, pumped storage hydroelectricity is used to even out the daily generating load, by pumping water to a high storage reservoir during off-peak hours and weekends, using the excess base-load capacity from coal or nuclear sources. During peak hours, this water can be used for hydroelectric generation, often as a high value rapid-response reserve to cover transient peaks in demand. Pumped storage recovers about 70% to 85% of the energy consumed, and is currently the most cost effective form of mass power storage. The chief problem with pumped storage is that it usually requires two nearby reservoirs at considerably different heights, and often requires considerable capital expenditure".

"Power for Tesla's entire Wardenclyffe power transmission system was to be provided by a coal fired 200 kilowatt Westinghouse alternating current industrial generator".

"In 1917, the 187-foot tower was destroyed by dynamite explosion as ordered by the U.S. government".
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Beijing (AFP) - Beijing ordered hundreds of factories to shut and allowed children to skip school as choking smog reached over 25 times safe levels on Tuesday, casting a cloud over China's participation in Paris climate talks.
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Beijing (AFP) - Beijing ordered hundreds of factories to shut and allowed children to skip school as choking smog reached over 25 times safe levels on Tuesday, casting a cloud over China's participation in Paris climate talks.
That's all sad, I know that from experience because in Poland we have 80% of houses heated by dirty coal dust and in many towns smog is almost like in China.
The main big problem is that the solution is not in hands of goverments - they had like 180 years to evolve society into a peaceful world with free energy everywhere.
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Old 12-01-2015, 08:50 PM
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Thanks Jorge,

When you tried the bi-filar windings , did you try all possible connections?
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