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Old 02-14-2016, 05:17 PM
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Old 02-16-2016, 06:59 PM
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True or a scam?

I am patiently waiting on Turions findings.........
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Old 03-03-2016, 01:55 PM
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Keshe: flop or what?

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update.....
Hi Bodkins,

Anything to report?

Anybody else?
Was it all just a scam?

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Old 03-03-2016, 03:48 PM
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Hi Bodkins,

Anything to report?

Anybody else?
Was it all just a scam?

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Depends on who you ask.

Bodkins is accepting donations (not to be confused with payments, obviously it would break the good intensions) for health pens. With that in mind, off course he will state it works.

If you'd ask sadang, off course it works. Disregard Roalds or Thomas effort, they weren't thorough replicators Please see the link he altruistically shared few posts above. Now that is making an effort! (note, a kwh meter in perfect balance (move neither forward nor backward) is impossible considering the load attached).

Reject reality and substitute their own.



Now, regarding the units sold by Keshe.

The Swedish guys:
Keshe test - QEG nätverk för fri Energi
http://www.sidhabo.org/div2/CommentsRunning.pdf
Not working obviously.

George:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeteF93_dV0
Final conclusion: No reduction or gain in energy. Not working obviously.

Roger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnU3vdg3sEo
Reports no difference with or without the unit. Not working obviously.

Peter's (a Keshe fanboy) latest update:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hr7uKz2xgE
Complete silence, no verdict nor final conclusion. Not working obviously.

Petra (a Keshe fangirl) latest update:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4sBAWl38dk
Complete silence, no verdict nor final conclusion. Not working obviously.

So, if you ask me, i would say it doesn't work. With any common sense applied looking at this (non-)technology bunch of copper turned in some "magic" way, it can not possibly work.

Regarding Keshe. He left Italy and moved to Dubai.
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Old 03-03-2016, 04:04 PM
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:13 AM
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I've been checking two of the Keshe forums daily. Almost all the post have to do with health pens (or similar) or making gans.

Not much about energy other than a couple people receive the Magrav unit for the car and have not idea how to install it.
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:21 AM
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Thanks Al,

I liked this quote from that link:

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Kolossal Keshe Katastrophe
January 11, 2016
ZeroFossilFuel posted the follow-up video, the final one in his series, called The Kolossal Keshe Katastrophe Konklusion.
Here the transcript of the main part of his konklusion:
“The output equals the input. Period. All I can tell you is: this does not work. Anything that is based on the priciples that should make this work, also does not work. Keshe is the bull**** artist of the century. He is a cult leader. A self-proclaimed Messiah. And the people who sit around him are basically his apostles. Guess what… Keshe is a false prophet. He is misleading you, he is detracting from real research that takes place in alternative energy. And he gives everyone a bad name. Anyone who accuses me of having a negative influence on any of this, you are so wrong, you have no idea. Exposing fraud is always a positive influence. ALWAYS a positive influence.
If you think what I’m saying is hateful, then apparently speaking the truth is the new hate speech. And I don’t care what you call it. You can call it anything you like. I will continue to speak the truth. And the truth is Keshe is a quack. And this (technology) does not work. Forget Keshe, walk away from Keshe. Pay him absolutely no mind. And remember: if you sent him any money, it’s gone. Count your losses, lick your wounds, walk away. This crap doesn’t work, I’m sorry. That is the truth. I can’t wait to turn this thing off, and move on to some real science. Peace everyone!”
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:25 AM
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Not much about energy other than a couple people receive the Magrav unit for the car and have not idea how to install it.
See post #2 in this thread. But it really doesn't matter how you install it, it won't work.

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Old 03-04-2016, 08:22 AM
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It has been several months now that Dave has correctly connected
up the unit and no news means it didn't work. This is embarrassing
so this is why no one will report back.

Who wants to admit they spent hundreds of dollars on
a fraudulent free energy scam they thought might
work that really didn't?

This was way back in Dec 2015 the thing was connected.

Millions are reported stolen in scams every year.


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Old 03-04-2016, 08:50 PM
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Hey Dave
Yeah check it out but if it had cut their energy bill in
half they would have called you by now. I'll bet Kesh
is filthy rich by now.

I have not heard anything from Marc so maybe he is
having the engine carb rebuilt on the McCulloch.

I saw your video on the 11th. That is
one big pile of motors and batteries, converters.

Maybe someone can do the same thing with 5 supercaps
and several cordless drill motors on a smaller scale to
make sure it works first. Ebay sells a tiny converter
for a couple of bucks.
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Old 03-05-2016, 12:08 AM
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See post #2 in this thread. But it really doesn't matter how you install it, it won't work.

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It doesn't matter how it's installed, you just have to believe.
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Old 03-05-2016, 01:00 AM
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It doesn't matter how it's installed, you just have to believe.
I read somewhere back then that the car unit actually worked (saved fuel) by making the car lighter. Can you believe that?
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Old 03-05-2016, 01:12 AM
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You Just have to believe?

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Old 03-05-2016, 06:46 AM
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I read somewhere back then that the car unit actually worked (saved fuel) by making the car lighter. Can you believe that?
It is not the car that got lighter, it is the head of the one driving it.


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Old 03-11-2016, 06:10 AM
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Step by step even the worst skeptical will have to accept the results without even understanding them. They will finally create a new religion, and those who were bent on Keshe's plasma theory (which btw is not far from the ancient knowledge) will become the new scientist of the future.

As a general rule, it doesn't matter how many devices works or not, if only one gives results not according to the current scientific dogma, then in a real human society based on common sense and real desire of knowledge and understanding and not on money and self-interest only, that device or phenomenon have to be studied in its subtext, text and context... if you are able to know what I mean!

The Keshe's plasma technology is already a planetary phenomenon! Even if you like it or not. and this without enforcement from any government or other kind of authority of any kind. It is only the will of the people. Otherwise... only naive or malicious arrogance!
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You are correct about one thing. The Keshe technology is a planetary phenomenon. I never realized the world was so full of ignorant people that would follow the ramblings of a lunatic. Now I am convinced there is no hope for the human race.

Where is that one device you claim will change the world of science? Can you show even one device out of the claimed thousands sold that actually does anything close to what it is claimed they are supposed to do? I am asking for a device with real documented evidence and measurements to back up the claims.

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Old 03-11-2016, 03:33 PM
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Step by step even the worst skeptical will have to accept the results without even understanding them. They will finally create a new religion, and those who were bent on Keshe's plasma theory (which btw is not far from the ancient knowledge) will become the new scientist of the future.
What makes you think skeptics don't accept the results? The results are in prefect line of what could be expected, and I for one accept the results as they are. You seem to need a religion in order to believe it will do as Mr Kookoo claims

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The Keshe's plasma technology is already a planetary phenomenon! Even if you like it or not. and this without enforcement from any government or other kind of authority of any kind. It is only the will of the people. Otherwise... only naive or malicious arrogance!
It is not technology at al. It is religious relic at best. You need to believe, a religion as you say, in order to give it any power or meaning. Which is fine, but off course has nothing to do with technology nor science.

Luckily history has shown religion gave way in favor of proper science. Not the other way around. So.. good luck!



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Old 03-11-2016, 06:57 PM
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@ citfta
You are faw from understanding something related to Keshe's plasma theory, even from official plasma theory. But it's ok if you wait for proofs! Keep doing, and be sure all who have results will come to your door to prove their devices.

@SlickDick
Right! What you expect, so you get! The same for me, what I get is what I expect! Just different expectations based on different knowledge!

Keep saying that! In the meantime Copernicus, Newton, Maxwell, Einstein and others are died for a long time, and those who were cons in that days, also died! And their rigid science too!
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Old 03-28-2016, 04:14 PM
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Old 05-17-2016, 08:47 PM
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I helped them get the Keshe device connected up.

....

So it may take a couple MONTHS before I have an answer I am willing to accept.

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Hi Turion,

It's been a few months. Any new reports?

Thanks,

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....Recently, there was a secret demonstration of a magic electric box. We had tested things like this before, like the Magrav that plugs into the wall, acts a bit odd for days and then begins putting out more power than it receives, even when skeptics and labs do it. This last thing is a mind blower, it doesn’t plug into anything and the version we can’t talk about that the Navy is looking at power a lot more than a few popup toasters. You can, it seems, get enough electricity out of nowhere at all to do more than power a car or save on an electric bill. This is why we put a net on Keshe.....
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Breaking: Did the World End Yesterday and Nobody Noticed?

The end of the hydrocarbon/fiat currency world or magnificent video fakery, Keshe device heads by backroads to White House confrontation.....There is a massive effort out there to discredit Keshe technology as “fantasy” even though DARPA and Boeing are confirmed to be getting excellent results using Keshe MagRav units they hope will power naval vessels. Rumor has it that Boeing has a Keshe powered drone circling the planet now running on “fantasy.”....
Breaking: Did the World End Yesterday and Nobody Noticed? | Veterans Today
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Old 08-16-2016, 01:18 AM
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The story goes on and on...
Gets even more ridiculous and still there are believers....
The foolishness of these people is beyond words in ANY language...
And they call themselves "Knowledge seekers".

They will always be seeking because they lack the organ to store knowledge.


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Old 08-16-2016, 04:04 PM
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Schematic and video demo of a working off grid unit.
So I watched the video. At first I thought he had positioned the refrigerator on top of an electrical outlet. You can see the blue outlet strip usual power input cord is connected to the lamp sockets. So power delivered to the blue power strip is coming from the black power cord from the refrigerator. But after watching the next video, I think he has a battery and inverter inside of the refrigerator. Note he is very careful to keep the camera on the top freezer only and not show the large main interior space of the refrigerator. A good car battery and hefty inverter could run those appliances for his 4 minutes.

On that next video, the one that automatically loads, most of the same appliances are run for, again, 4 minutes. These are all positioned on a tabletop and he shows how no cords are plugged into the wall outlet. Again he uses that blue power strip (no vice grips). This time he shows the refrigerator interior. However there is mysterious yellow box in middle of the table which could contain the battery and inverter.

Both videos are fraudulent.
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Old 08-16-2016, 08:58 PM
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Yet the guy in the video is pictured standing in front of the Whitehouse, in readiness for a presentation of this 'technology' at the National Press Club tomorrow (scroll down);

Keshe Foundation | Keshe Foundation


This is getting stranger & stranger. What intrigues me is the use of the 2 compressors back-to-back. Isn't that basically what all of those videos on Youtube that show one motor running another is doing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUb0Y24vDtc

The other thing that intrigues me is that in one of Keshe's own videos, the presenter (not Keshe) actually states the hybrid setup will run without the Magravs, it just won't be able to supply the same amount of current. Is it possible that the Magravs are just a huge red-herring, and all that's involved is the 2 ac motors?

Of course, it makes absolutely no sense that this setup should be generating 110v @ 60Hz.

A booking of the National Press Club can't be cheap either, especially for a cash-strapped organisation like the Keshe foundation. We will know that something is awry if there is a sudden cancellation, although, this is supposed to be happening in a little over 24 hours (see link below). I look forward to this 'presentation'.

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdow...20Press%20Club
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A booking of the National Press Club can't be cheap either, especially for a cash-strapped organisation like the Keshe foundation. We will know that something is awry if there is a sudden cancellation, although, this is supposed to be happening in a little over 24 hours. I look forward to this 'presentation'.
There will be no sudden cancellation since the event was never booked in the first place. The National Press Club events calendar says no.

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There will be no sudden cancellation since the event was never booked in the first place. The National Press Club events calendar says no.

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Haha, nice catch - too funny!!! I wonder what Keshe's excuse for this will be!
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According to the Keshe facebook page the demo will take place Wednesday 17/8/2016 at 6:00pm ET. You can view it live on the following link.

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