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07-04-2015, 05:39 PM
 Magnethos Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 153
Space energy harvesting theories and observations

I decided to open this thread because as you know I'm a user of this forum for years, and I've been collecting some informations and observations that could be usefull.

The purpouse of this thread is to discuss and post some observations to better understand how we can harvest energy from the space and convert it to usable power.
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07-04-2015, 06:11 PM
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Space energy rotation

One of the most intriguing questions I've been performing for years is about space rotations. I've always thought that any form of energy has a rotational pattern. In other words, if you want to produce an energy you'll need to polarize the space using rotations.

Bearden talks about quaternions, a math system. Well, in quaternions there is something called 'spatial rotations', and I've read some systems that use rotational-signatures of the space.

To visualize a spatial rotation it can be seen like

There are some correlations found in the net, one is to Eric Dollard's versor algebra and the other one is related with Dr. Mark Snoswell and his spatial energy rotations.
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07-04-2015, 06:16 PM
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Stochastic electrodynamics and Dr. Ronald Stiffler

One interesting point also it's about stochastic electrodynamics. I'm not an expert, but I think there are random fluctuations of energy in the space that can be modulated to produce useful electrical energy. I compare that stochastic fluctuations with the white noise.

Also, there would be interesting to compare all those stochastic phenomena with Dr. Ronald Stiffler 'space energy coherence' theories. There are other authors as well.
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07-04-2015, 06:24 PM
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Law of squares and coherence

Another interesting point of view would be to analyze that space energy coherence with the 'law of squares'. I saw the first time the LOS (law of squares) from John Searl. It's very fascinating because it was used for several centuries, and it has something strange and special about how nature causes coherence in stochastic (aleatory) phenomena.
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07-04-2015, 06:37 PM
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Longitudinal signature and Rotational signature

I remember to read somewhere in the net that Paulo Correa (from aetherometry) said once that he had observed that there is a 'specific signature' when energy is created. So it can be observed that any wattage has its own specific siganture and all the signatures can be related one with each other, in other words I mean that they can be described as rotational signatures, longitudinal signatures, or it can be also described using other kind of coordinates.

Another interesting point would be to understand better how a battery creates those energetic signatures through the redox reaction. A redox reaction seems to be a cause of the energy production. If we know that energy can be described using signatures and patterns, then the redox reaction would describe also a specific energy-related pattern.
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07-04-2015, 08:10 PM
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Lissajous curves, harmonographs and Mark Snoswell

Another interesting observation that I've seen is a correlation between some different theories.

In this case there seems to be a correlation with space rotation, Mark Snoswell theories, harmonographs and Lissajous, Quaternion rotations, etc...

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07-04-2015, 08:29 PM
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Howard Johnson magnetic discovery and harmonographs

There is also another interesting correlation with Snoswell's graphics, harmonographs and Howard Johnson's hidden magnetic geometry.

This is similar to a harmonograph and it's an observation from Howard Johnson.
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07-04-2015, 09:28 PM
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Cymatics, lissajous and knot theory

At the same time, a combination of oscillations can describe space rotations.

If energy has a longitudinal signature, then the longitudinal signature can be represented by a combination of oscillations as you can see in the below picture.
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07-04-2015, 10:50 PM
 Magnethos Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 153
I've been reading that it's possible to represent 3D scenes in an oscilloscope (I don't know if in all models), using a complex oscillatory interference.

One of the most interesting things is that it's possible to visualize a harmonograph-like picture. So it would be very interesting if is possible to visualize magnetic 3D field in an oscilloscope and study the hidden internal dynamics of the magnetic field.

This picture has been taken from an oscilloscope and it's similar to a toroid or something related with it.
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07-04-2015, 11:03 PM
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Hodowanec circuit

It would be interesting to build one of the Hodowanec's circuits. I remember a friend of mine that told me some years ago that he built a circuit from Hodowanec, something like a device to hear capacitance or something like that. Using some headphones he was able to hear strange noises that were emitted when moving an object, etc... that in other ways it was not possible to hear.

What can happens if you connect those noises to an oscilloscope? What we could see?
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07-05-2015, 01:15 AM
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07-05-2015, 08:33 AM
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by med.3012 interesting thread !
I like that you enjoy this thread and I enjoy yours.

I've always thought that electromagnetic energy has some hidden components that have to be understood to better understand how electricity works.
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07-05-2015, 08:50 AM
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TPU and Steven Mark

I don't know if this is true or not, but I read years ago somewhere that Steven Mark's TPU was invented after some strange accidents that Steven or a friend of him witnessed. The accident(s) was about strange tv implosions that caused the death of some people that were near the tv.

Steven always asked to himself what could be causing those tv implosion. I also remember that one day Steven was performing some tests and witnessed that magnetometers around the room started to detect some different measurements misteriously. After that, one of his conclussions was that 'there was a combination (pattern) of energies that can excite the space and can invoke huge amounts of energy'. If controlled, they can be used for energy generation.

Maybe Steven was refering to space polarization? Maybe there are some hidden oscillatory processes that can polarize space?

I think one critical part is about heterodyne oscillations.
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07-05-2015, 10:45 AM
 Magnethos Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 153
Implosion-generation, explosion-dissipation and resonance

This maybe could be a very interesting part to study. Well, I learnt a big part of this reading and hearing to Donald Smith. As always, I don't know if this is true or not, but at least it deserves attention to the curious mind.

I think that electromagnetism can be seen as a form of dissipative energy. As we know, there are a lot of examples that emitt heat. And heat can be related with 'wasted energy'. As we've heard a lot of times, there is something called 'cold electricity' that doesn't produce heat or produces less.

Donald Smith said in several times that the systems he was using wasn't affected to ohm and joules law, because at resonance, the system resistance is zero. He also said that ohms and amperes were related to the rate of waste of energy. So, no ohms and no amperes, no dissipation. I don't understand much about this, but it sounds reasonable. So, from this point it could be thought that amperage manifest when there is a non-resonant condition in the system. Another interesting question would be: if we eliminate amperage from the equation then Volts = Energy?, Energy is wattless (since Volts x Zero Amps = Zero Watts, but it seems to be energy there).

When I say 'wattless energy' it comes to my mind the 'reactive power'. As we know, reactive power is a wattless form of energy because the power factor is zero. A lot of us could be thinking at this moment: "Reactive power is not practical because it cannot perform work", but What about Thane Heins. Heins has shown how a special designed transformer can consume real power in the output using reactive power in the input. Interesting right?
We can think that the problem is not 100% related on how many watts the load consume. The problem is if wattage is reaching the energy source. In this case, the energy source is being destroyed so in that moment there is a limited amount of time while the power source can draw power (in case that the power source is a battery). If not, the only power draw is the power needed to run the circuit, but not to run the load.

Some circuits have demonstrated to cold down when they run. One example was about an electromagnet from a Russian man that was able to cold down while running if a specific pattern was applied. Another similar effect happened with Floyd Sweet. Sweet said in one ocassion that an abrupt cold implossion happened while using his VTA. A more classic example is with a peltier module. In one side the peltier module is absorbing heat (cooling side) and in the other side the plate is emitting heat (dissipation). I also remember some youtube's videos were an user caller NRGfromthevacuum shown a video where he shown that it was possible to produce a 'cold spark'. This cold spark produced ice in the electrodes. And, of course, there was a very characteristic implosion sound. Maybe I've a copy of that video somewhere.

Well, I was speaking about heat and cold phenomena because I think it's quite interesting to understand that there is a relation between implosion-cold and explosion-heat, and it seems that heat means energy dissipation and heat is related with non-resonant condition and with electromagnetism. So, we cannot use directly electromagnetism to try to absorb energy from the space because 'we cannot have gains in a system of losses'. Using electromagnetism implies energy dissipation-explosion-heat.

Donald Smith explained in one ocassion something very interesting and was about the wave phase relation and the rhytmic movement of particles. He said that electromagnetism is based on real power, so real power voltage and current are on phase and they produce watts. These watts are affected by joules law and ohm's law. That means that it implies that there are losses in the system. Well, when the system has a power factor = 1, that means that voltage and current are on phase and are electrons are spinning in all directions at the same time, causing friction and dissipation.
Instead, reactive power has a power factor of zero and first all the electrons spin in one direction and after the electrons spin in the opposite direction at the same time. In reactive power there is not dissipation (watts).

A visual example would be the next. Remember the bucking coil that Smith uses as L2 and he learnt from Tesla's work.

In resonance, L1 has only voltage because there is not amperage. L2 differentiates the L1 energy into volts and amperes. As you can see in the next picture, volts and amperes rotate in different directions.

This can be easily seen in the Corilis effect.

EDIT: I've modified the graphics to correct some informations that were incoherent. At the moment, the relation between the informations are coherent.
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07-05-2015, 11:48 AM
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Observation about magnetism and standing/scalar waves

AT&T video (7:15)

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07-05-2015, 12:28 PM
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Tesla 3, 6 and 9

I remember to have seen some information about magic squares and the importance of 3, 6 and 9 to coherence those squares. I remember that Tesla said that it was very important to understand the importance of the numbers 3, 6 and 9.
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07-05-2015, 12:47 PM
 med.3012 Gold Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Algeria Posts: 1,076
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Magnethos I don't know if this is true or not, but I read years ago somewhere that Steven Mark's TPU was invented after some strange accidents that Steven or a friend of him witnessed. The accident(s) was about strange tv implosions that caused the death of some people that were near the tv. Steven always asked to himself what could be causing those tv implosion.
Just to correct some info here about TV implosion, this was an earlier problem in cathodic TV :

the earlier model wasn't equipped with implosion protection mechanism so they can explode due to high temperature and voltage inside the tube, the protection mechanism make the tube to completely defect rather than explode, a lots of optimization has done like minimizing X rays spread from these tube.
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07-05-2015, 02:41 PM
 Magnethos Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 153
Empty space and the neutrinic force

I've seen this in different very strange books as well in easy to find books.
Some authors claims that the empty space is full with a really high energy density and one of my first questions was: Where is that energy and why it doesn't manifest as electromagnetic energy?

After carefully observing different phenomena and seeing what different authors said about that, I understood that the empty space is full of energy called neutrinic charges. But, what means 'neutrinic'? Neutrinic is from the word neutral. Neutral means that it has not been manifested in any of his parts. Well, I think this neutrinic charge is a combination of positive and negative charges that are in a steady state, so it's difficult to observe. Paulo Correa I think he calls this energy 'ambipolar energy' (ambipolar means that it contains both positive and negative). Ambipolar means that it has both positive and negative charges together in equilibrium.

Here you've a picture about electrinic charges, positrinic charges and neutrinic charges.

The component of empty space is neutrinic charges. If we want to produce electromagnetic waves, then we need to polarize the space and we can accomplish that through space excitation.

If you remember to Donald Smith, he said in several ocasions that the space was full of energy and if you excite the space then you get like a back-emf. You excite the space with electric waves, and the space has to return to equilibrium. In that 'return to equilibrium' the space itself emits magnetic waves that they can be 'absorbed' to produce useful energy. He also said that each kind of wave (electric and magnetic) emits energy in a different spin direction. So, we can think that each charge is like a emitting or receiving vortex of energy
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07-05-2015, 03:37 PM
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Analogy with a peltier module

We can also make an analogy with a peltier module. As you know, a peltier module absorbs heat in one side (cold side) and emits heat in the other side (hot side). I see this as process of energy collection from space and energy emission to space. I've used heat as the absorbtion energy because at least in the emission/scattering part is heat the energy that is lost in the circuit.

As we know electromagnetism is based on absorbtion and emission of energy to space, while radiant energy is cold in nature and it has none or little heat emission to space. I see the heat emission to space as energy losses in a circuit. For that reason I always say that we cannot harvest energy using electromagnetism because electromagnetism implies losses in the circuit.

To absorb energy we've to collect free voltage (potential) in the space, that is a counterclockwise spin process. As you may remember Donald Smith said that in resonance, there is not resistance in the circuit, so there are not energy losses in the circuit and ohm's law and joule's law are invalid. This can be easily seen because with cold electrical energy we can light a bulb under water without getting an electric shock or we can send some kilowatts of energy through a very thin wire without any heat.

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07-05-2015, 04:16 PM
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LC resonant circuit and energy destruction/amplification

Another interesting thing is about oscillatory circuits. Donald Smith said that the higher the frequency the higher the amount of energy that can flow to the circuit. He also said that our 50 Hz would be the equivalent to less than 10 watts. The higher the frequency the better. Zero point energy is an energy of high frequency.

About the resonant tank, I've found a thing that almost everyone knows.
The inductor produces a REVERSE VOLTAGE when the supply is TURNED OFF:

Slow-motion showing showing the
"reverse voltage" pulse produced by the
inductor when the supply is removed.

When a capacitor is added to the circuit, the energy flows from the inductor to the capacitor, and back to the inductor, when the supply is removed, to produce an "oscillatory effect."
The end result is a sinewave output.
The animation below shows the energy flowing between the components with the "centre-reading" voltmeter detecting the voltage:

If we compare the needle of the voltmeter in the LC animated graph, then we can see some analogy with this graphic:

As we can see the energy flows back and forth almost for a high number of times. This is an energy loss oscillation:

The energy is lost in the circuit following a Fibonacci curve.

Remember that Donald Smith talked about the LC circuits and the energetic gain OR lost in the resonant tank:

In the case described above in this post, we've the first case (the top one of the three cases). Fibonacci was also discussed by Smith.

It would be possible to 'reverse' this phenomenon and produce a regenerative oscillation? It seems that it would be possible.
I've read some references about energy generation and golden ratio. The most recent one is the E-Stress power generator.
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07-05-2015, 04:22 PM
 citfta Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,319
I am curious where you got the idea that early CRTs did not have implosion protection. I owned and operated a TV repair shop for several years and I never heard of that before. Also you posted a picture of a CRT but it is not clear if this is supposed to be one with implosion protection or one without. If the picture is supposed to be one with the protection then please point out where or what that protection is. Also you should note that implosion is the opposite of explosion. Since CRTs are under very high vacuum then they could only implode not explode.

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 Originally Posted by med.3012 Just to correct some info here about TV implosion, this was an earlier problem in cathodic TV : the earlier model wasn't equipped with implosion protection mechanism so they can explode due to high temperature and voltage inside the tube, the protection mechanism make the tube to completely defect rather than explode, a lots of optimization has done like minimizing X rays spread from these tube.
Respectfully,
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07-05-2015, 06:37 PM
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by citfta I am curious where you got the idea that early CRTs did not have implosion protection. I owned and operated a TV repair shop for several years and I never heard of that before. Also you posted a picture of a CRT but it is not clear if this is supposed to be one with implosion protection or one without. If the picture is supposed to be one with the protection then please point out where or what that protection is. Also you should note that implosion is the opposite of explosion. Since CRTs are under very high vacuum then they could only implode not explode. Respectfully, Carroll
i just added an idea it's not strange for an old TV to explode or implode ! faraway from the technical details, it's possible to happen if the TV tube isn't equipped with such protection , that's all!

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07-05-2015, 07:48 PM
 Duncan Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,329
I guess in practice implode or explode doesn't make to much difference, once imploded the glass keeps going. It may just as well have exploded!
As for deaths it used to happen in earlier days because the front screens were not reinforced as effectively as later days and laminated glass was unknown, if the tube did blow a flying 'glass bomb' with shards projected out front ways could be the result.
I guess you could call that 'unprotected' and it certainly killed one or two customers in the early days of CRT Television. Of course there's been a few nasty accidents with engineers slipping into the tubes whilst toying inside the guts
luckily they don't usually blow when you break the neck else I would have been long gone myself.
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07-05-2015, 10:23 PM
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Duncan I guess in practice implode or explode doesn't make to much difference, once imploded the glass keeps going. It may just as well have exploded! As for deaths it used to happen in earlier days because the front screens were not reinforced as effectively as later days and laminated glass was unknown, if the tube did blow a flying 'glass bomb' with shards projected out front ways could be the result. I guess you could call that 'unprotected' and it certainly killed one or two customers in the early days of CRT Television. Of course there's been a few nasty accidents with engineers slipping into the tubes whilst toying inside the guts luckily they don't usually blow when you break the neck else I would have been long gone myself.

i agree with you, it's safe to break them from the neck ( those with protection ) , i remember i got an electrostatic shock in my head from a TV tube when working with it without discharging the charge inside it i i lost my vision the few moment when the charge pass my brain !! fortunately they don't exist now !
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07-05-2015, 11:13 PM
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 Originally Posted by Magnethos Another interesting thing is about oscillatory circuits. Donald Smith said that the higher the frequency the higher the amount of energy that can flow to the circuit. He also said that our 50 Hz would be the equivalent to less than 10 watts. The higher the frequency the better. Zero point energy is an energy of high frequency. About the resonant tank, I've found a thing that almost everyone knows. The inductor produces a REVERSE VOLTAGE when the supply is TURNED OFF: Slow-motion showing showing the "reverse voltage" pulse produced by the inductor when the supply is removed. When a capacitor is added to the circuit, the energy flows from the inductor to the capacitor, and back to the inductor, when the supply is removed, to produce an "oscillatory effect." The end result is a sinewave output. The animation below shows the energy flowing between the components with the "centre-reading" voltmeter detecting the voltage: If we compare the needle of the voltmeter in the LC animated graph, then we can see some analogy with this graphic: As we can see the energy flows back and forth almost for a high number of times. This is an energy loss oscillation: The energy is lost in the circuit following a Fibonacci curve. Remember that Donald Smith talked about the LC circuits and the energetic gain OR lost in the resonant tank: In the case described above in this post, we've the first case (the top one of the three cases). Fibonacci was also discussed by Smith. It would be possible to 'reverse' this phenomenon and produce a regenerative oscillation? It seems that it would be possible. I've read some references about energy generation and golden ratio. The most recent one is the E-Stress power generator.

i got the following signal from an oscillating ETBC when i put two pieces of ferrite bar inside the ETBC , but using only one ferrite bar the increased oscillation disappear !

i wonder why ?
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07-06-2015, 06:31 PM
 boguslaw Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,494
First, did you read all Steven Mark quotes and letters ? Where did you found the idea of imploding TV tube killing people ? It would be quite hard to do imho, just because nobody is so near the tv set while watching television, even in old days. Clearly as Steven Mark mentioned the release of huge magnetic power was the reason of death of poor child in accident described by his boss.
There is much more about it then you see at first glance.It's eay opening information if you read carefully and connect all informations from other inventors.The essence is : we really have no idea why and how we generate electricity...
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07-07-2015, 11:29 PM
 Nick_Z Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 332
Although the Tv must have exploded, as it left pieces stuck in the wall, as well. And, an implosion wouldn't do that, when a normal CRT screen is broken. So, there's more to, than simple implosion, or explosion.
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