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Old 05-14-2017, 12:11 PM
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Yep - right on! bigger core / more wire used = more ohms!
Glad you made the bifilar connect too!

You better wait till after Mom's Day and have a full pot of coffee ready
before reading the setup/install information E-mail I sent you!
Busy is a word that doesn't quite cover it here.

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Clarence,

Yea I saw that setup/install information last night while having a single brewski I found hiding in the frig.

I had to take a double swallow to read it. Haha.

But still I want to install this monster core today, if I have the equipment and brains to do that later this evening.

To All who are mom's or have one Happy Mother's Day.

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hello
I have a question, maybe somebody here could answer me.
I am not electrician but I am trying to understand this circuit that clarence mentioned.
My doubt is if this is overunity? and which is the C.O.P. of this one
also I do not know if you have already seen this video in youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFmmyl1JmM

could you please tell me if that circuit is equal or works like the one of clarence?
thanks in advance. I hope to hear from you.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:33 PM
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hello
I have a question, maybe somebody here could answer me.
I am not electrician but I am trying to understand this circuit that clarence mentioned.
My doubt is if this is overunity? and which is the C.O.P. of this one
also I do not know if you have already seen this video in youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFmmyl1JmM

could you please tell me if that circuit is equal or works like the one of clarence?
thanks in advance. I hope to hear from you.
best regardds
Franklin,
The video is in Spanish, which I don't speak. But the schematic he shows is from the patent that I've tried and got no COP. But at that time didn't understand the patent. Been trying different setups and tests with Clarence help to understand it better.

But Clarence is the best builder to answer here not me.
Just my two cents worth,
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Old 05-16-2017, 11:42 AM
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No help making bifilar connection

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Clarence,
Just finished winding the core. I sent you an e-mail with pictures cause my brains and hands are tired and don't want to post pictures here tonight.

Got 3.8 ohms on it. My core is longer at 2" so more wire. It worked out good with the 660 turns and bifilar series connected.

Will try to post pictures tomorrow but will be very busy with it being Mother's Day and all.

wantomake
Wantomake,

Tried the New core by itself with the bifilar connection used as such.

Was not a good help at all - so will undo that type of connection and
and proceed with the core as just a series wound unit and go from there.

Later

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Old 05-16-2017, 02:20 PM
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Clarence,
Just re-connected to series winding. Tested and all is good. Not enough time to get any numbers had to take wife to work.

More later,
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:06 PM
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Captor?

Clarence,
Good. Can't sit by and do nothing. So have been testing different ideas on the basic setup. 12 volts DC pulsing with a dc MY1016 motor on one connecting wires. I read 11 amps ac on the loop.

But mostly trying to understand how to extract earth energy with the loop. I think that's the part left out of the patent cause without this method all of the rest is a waste of time. It's nothing more than a transformer with a large wire as secondary but connected back on itself to form a loop. If myself as the dummy in electronics can see that, and there are many YouTube videos showing transforming part but nothing on "extracting" the energy.

I've recorded 200+ amps down to 11 amps on that loop. We wrap the end of a ground wire around a portion of the loop. Nothing. Why?

I can place a 12" long galvanized nail in the ground, then place a copper pipe same size a few feet away. Then connect a capacitor between them and the cap extracts energy from the ground. Why can't I create that same effect on a larger scale?

I have a better understanding now that effect is called "negative" drawing of electrons. Loop is called an electron captor. Is it really just one half of a large capacitor and must figure out how the other half of it. The ion or electron half.

Sorry just some of my musings this coffee session of the morning,
wantomake

If anyone has a solid way to "extract" energy with the loop or electron captor please do share here.
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Old 05-18-2017, 05:05 PM
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Try it again

Clarence,
I think I have tried that . Don't remember but will try again. My loop wire is not that large. I got the largest size Lowe's had.

I'll try ac and dc both. Never hurts.

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Old 05-19-2017, 12:02 AM
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Do this and see what happens.
Clarence,
Connected to the captor like the picture in many different ways but still nothing to crow about.

Still trying and waiting ,
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Watching with interest

While you guys are way past me in understanding and experience, I continue to follow with great interest. I got my toroid loop setup about the time that you discovered it wasn't needed I haven't put any ground rods in yet. Clarence, with your latest research, how many do you think are still needed? I look forward to your posts and progress. Keep up the good work. If there's anything you need, I'll be glad to help out if I can.

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While you guys are way past me in understanding and experience, I continue to follow with great interest. I got my toroid loop setup about the time that you discovered it wasn't needed I haven't put any ground rods in yet. Clarence, with your latest research, how many do you think are still needed? I look forward to your posts and progress. Keep up the good work. If there's anything you need, I'll be glad to help out if I can.

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Hello digits10,

It's been a long silence because there have been many efforts with trials , tests and failures, revamps and such that need not and were not made
public to save all others from false efforts that would indeed have been discouraging.
At last have weeded out all the no-no's and am in process of constructing
a hopefully correct wound toroid to match B&L design. Process will not be through and tests for use-ability made until around June 1st or so.
So just hang in there and check in around that time and see if there is anything new.

Appreciate your interest and support but my desire is to make it worth your while without non-productive efforts.

Thanks for your thoughts,

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Old 05-30-2017, 07:55 PM
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two videos from hibridor channel

hello I have not noticed that clarence had already answer my question in one post before.... jeje

just in some case somebody want to see this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zf4V-85FgE&t=153s

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Old 05-30-2017, 08:18 PM
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Hello Clarence
I heard that you have replicated sucessfully the barbosa and leal device
but I do not know if you have seen this video in youtube, there is a guy called wilson roa from the hibridor channel. he shows a replication of the device just using a toroid transofrmer, a bridge rectifier and a capacitor with the closed blucle. I do not know if you have any comments about it.
this is the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFmmyl1JmM

have a good day
Franklin,
I'm not sure what is his power source if he's not connecting the neutral wire. I don't speak Spanish so just going on his schematic.

Just my thoughts.

Clarence will give you a better answer here than I can.

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I noticed you edited your post as I was typing.
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:54 PM
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fer123,
Sorry for not posting lately. Clarence(mostly) and I have tried different core windings to get it right.

We have a question from your previous post about Ariovaldos purchase and trial of his unit.

The 660 turns of the core with # 20 AWG wire, what was the inductance value and resistance value? If you remember it would help.

Thanks so much. Hope all is well for you.

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Old 06-02-2017, 12:11 AM
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Toroid info.

Hello Wantomake the picture from ariovaldo was post number 1310 by clarence that the info he share, but 2 things ring my bell first time he says the toroid had 600 turns a few post after somebody question that and he says the toroid had 60 more turns a total of 660 , second barbosa says to him the inductance should have 0.6h to 0.8h. This is the info I have at hand. We keep in touch.
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Toroid info.

You are sharp.
Yes, the coil had more than one connection, but my assumption was that is not so easy to winding by hand 660 turns in a toroid, so this was done in parts. It was connect in series anyway. Different sizes of wire? Yes, 60 turns with a 20 AWG magnetic wire….

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Hello Wantomake the picture from ariovaldo was post number 1310 by clarence that the info he share, but 2 things ring my bell first time he says the toroid had 600 turns a few post after somebody question that and he says the toroid had 60 more turns a total of 660 , second barbosa says to him the inductance should have 0.6h to 0.8h. This is the info I have at hand. We keep in touch.
Hello fer123

I sent you a PM.
Hope you will read and answer - please.

Thanks Sir,

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You are sharp.
Yes, the coil had more than one connection, but my assumption was that is not so easy to winding by hand 660 turns in a toroid, so this was done in parts. It was connect in series anyway. Different sizes of wire? Yes, 60 turns with a 20 AWG magnetic wire….

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Hello fe123,

Thanks for the reply!
Will keep in touch also.

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Old 06-04-2017, 06:35 PM
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660 turn toroid

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fer123,
Sorry for not posting lately. Clarence(mostly) and I have tried different core windings to get it right.

We have a question from your previous post about Ariovaldos purchase and trial of his unit.

The 660 turns of the core with # 20 AWG wire, what was the inductance value and resistance value? If you remember it would help.

Thanks so much. Hope all is well for you.

wantomake
Wantomake,


Completed and tested the 660 turn # 20 AWG - series toroid.
Placed it in opposite CW to toroid series # 1-0 ought AWG loop and powered it up.
Toroid : 660 turn toroid
120.6 volt - 0.17 amp - 9.2 watts
Loop : One pass thru center toroid with loop short connection = 75.0 amp

On to next Item

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Completed and tested the 660 turn # 20 AWG - series toroid.
Placed it in opposite CW to toroid series # 1-0 ought AWG loop and powered it up.
Toroid : 660 turn toroid
120.6 volt - 0.17 amp - 9.2 watts
Loop : One pass thru center toroid with loop short connection = 75.0 amp

On to next Item

Clarence
Clarence,
Progress is great. I've the magnet 20 awg 400 feet, and 1-0 ought 10 feet bookmarked on eBay and waiting for me to order.

The "next item" parts I still need to look up.

Sent you an e-mail.
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Connecting to the grid the captor instead the inverter

Hello again
Do you think if the replication from clarence could be done using the electricity of the house instead of the inverter? it is because I think the inverter is expensive and then using the grid for starting point could be usuful anyway because the energy could be amplified (i think). I saw the schematic from Clarence and it shows the inverter and the smart battery charger. but I do not know if somebody could post a schematic using the electricity from the house? somebody knows how it could be done?
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Old 06-15-2017, 09:41 PM
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Thanks Clarence,
Right after typing this the shop is all mine!!! I drew a rough schematic from your pics and good explanation. I don't have that GDT, will order one.

Can't wait to get started. Will post what I find and experience with this new improvement.

Thanks for sharing,
wantomake
Hello Wantomake.
could you please share with me that schematic?
I saw this version from clarence is smaller?
but it looks it works. could you tell me how to replicate this one
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Old 06-15-2017, 10:01 PM
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Hello again
Do you think if the replication from clarence could be done using the electricity of the house instead of the inverter? it is because I think the inverter is expensive and then using the grid for starting point could be usuful anyway because the energy could be amplified (i think). I saw the schematic from Clarence and it shows the inverter and the smart battery charger. but I do not know if somebody could post a schematic using the electricity from the house? somebody knows how it could be done?
thanks
FRANKLIN,

ALL past thread pages schematics are OBSOLETE - they were worthless then and are not to be used.

Myself and another member have been busy for the last Two months or so
and probably till the end of June working to produce a unit according to the Patent details only.
It has and is taking a lot of time and effort. When it's finished and successfully proven as a valid unit , then I'll make a post and show it.
Till then, just hang loose!

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FRANKLIN,

ALL past thread pages schematics are OBSOLETE - they were worthless then and are not to be used.

Myself and another member have been busy for the last Two months or so
and probably till the end of June working to produce a unit according to the Patent details only.
It has and is taking a lot of time and effort. When it's finished and successfully proven as a valid unit , then I'll make a post and show it.
Till then, just hang loose!

Clarence
thanks clarence for answering
nice to hear that the patents details can offer some information

wilson roa from energialibrerd I think has some information but I do not know, difficult to contact him
would like to help but do not know much of electricity field
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FRANKLIN,

ALL past thread pages schematics are OBSOLETE - they were worthless then and are not to be used.

Myself and another member have been busy for the last Two months or so
and probably till the end of June working to produce a unit according to the Patent details only.
It has and is taking a lot of time and effort. When it's finished and successfully proven as a valid unit , then I'll make a post and show it.
Till then, just hang loose!

Clarence
@ ALL ,

Clarence here: have not died or left the planet!
My self and fellow member have been busy as hell 5 to 7 days a week
straight thru these last months.

Are now getting past the captor stage and into the last few Items.
Sorry, NO photos, just work and sweat.

When finished I will find another way to display photos other than the forum
thumbnail route ---- sucks big time!!
Won't ever use photo bucket again either! Will have to find a way tho!

Best to ALL,

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happy to hear from you Mr Clarence, and happy to hear about the advance on the captor I very excite to see where was the trick and all the rest. I ll be here to see what happens. Best for you.
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Watching for your updates with anticipation
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@ ALL ,

Clarence here: have not died or left the planet!
My self and fellow member have been busy as hell 5 to 7 days a week
straight thru these last months.

Are now getting past the captor stage and into the last few Items.
Sorry, NO photos, just work and sweat.

Best to ALL,

Clarence
Hello @ ALL,

Have finished the Patent Type Build.

It Does work. However the success is a mixed bag and involves several
of MY PREVIOUS SELF KNOWN facts and a few new facts that I have to clarify
for myself before passing on to anyone.

The clarification ( for my own satisfaction - no one else ) will take another small period of time.
Just be patient and wait.

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Old 07-18-2017, 03:05 PM
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Clarence,
It's good to hear you're making progress and having some success. I'm waiting (sort of) patiently to read your updates
With the new build, does it still require a bunch of ground rods?
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Hello @ ALL,

Have finished the Patent Type Build.

It Does work. However the success is a mixed bag.

Clarence
Hell@ALL,

Attached are a few photos of the entire build according to the Patent
Specifications.
Everything in it works as it it supposed to , including the rectifier with its dual DC/DC converters, the 660 turn toroid, the captor loop with it's one pass
through the center of the toroid.
One of the photos shows the Captor/coil/loop with it's amperage.
The GDTprior to the Ground Rod return/making it's turn and a half around the Captor coil two center turns-everything is there.

During mid day - 10 AM to 2 PM the voltage from the ground reads 52/56
volts AC. After that time period the AC voltage diminishes considerably - down to 6/5 volts. Why it does that - I don't know?

All of this is with my 60 ground rods from previous years.

So for me this is the end of a LONG journey.

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