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Old 03-23-2017, 03:21 PM
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Clarence and All,
Just quick update. Changed setup to match the pictures. All I need is the GDT, should be here Monday from eBay. Got a .001 uf 400 watt capacitor from local Radio Shack. Right now I have a neon lamp and 0.1 uf as a small LOAD but think that's the problem. At least I hope it is. The loop only has 56 amps and is only wound 4 times compared to your 5 1/2 times loop. Is that a factor ?

I can at this point just barely power a 100 watt bulb. A 13 watt cfl will flicker but not light up. I did connect the setup to mains 120 ac just to test if my 2k watt inverter was ok. The 100 watt bulb did get brighter with the mains power connect. I have a solar battery bank of 9 marine at 115 Ah, so it's enough amperage to power anything. I have three solar panels at 85 watts each.

Any hoo that's my findings until Monday when parts arrive,
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Clarence and All,
Just quick update. Changed setup to match the pictures. All I need is the GDT, should be here Monday from eBay. Got a .001 uf 400 watt capacitor from local Radio Shack. Right now I have a neon lamp and 0.1 uf as a small LOAD but think that's the problem. At least I hope it is. The loop only has 56 amps and is only wound 4 times compared to your 5 1/2 times loop. Is that a factor ?

I can at this point just barely power a 100 watt bulb. A 13 watt cfl will flicker but not light up. I did connect the setup to mains 120 ac just to test if my 2k watt inverter was ok. The 100 watt bulb did get brighter with the mains power connect. I have a solar battery bank of 9 marine at 115 Ah, so it's enough amperage to power anything. I have three solar panels at 85 watts each.

Any hoo that's my findings until Monday when parts arrive,
wantomake
Hello Wantomake,

After I read your post I went back to your previous post where you pic showed the lamp and cap and the lamp glowing.
The lamp is just and INDICATOR that the circuit is alive. What it actually does is ARC OVER at 90 volts and the DROP BACK to 60 volts continual.
That is why your voltage is so low that the CFL will only flicker.
The GDT does the opposite.It doesn't turn on until the 75 volts its rated for
and then Allows FULL voltage thru continually which is why it becomes an IMMEDIATE DEAD SHORT. The CERAMIC mini .oo1 uf cap just acts as a small LOAD and gets rid of the dead short effect.

Don't know about the low amperage on the loop though? - you might check
it's supply from the inverter.
Secretly I believe the LOOP and it's Amperage reading is another "LOOKY HERE!" distraction they built into their devise to throw CEMAR off from what they were really doing. WHAT were they REALLY doing you say?
Think on it!.......CEMAR was FLOODING the countryside with VAST amounts
of NEUTRAL voltage through their SWER system. B&L (IMHO) just found a
simple but effective way to GOBBLE it up with out going thru any METER.
THAT is the same thing we are doing here. ALL OF YOU need ton think about
it! There is no MAGIC BULLET to this.

CEMAR is being substituted with our PV panel/battery/inverter/neutral earth input/neutral earth return/SWERsystem - it's just reality looking your nose to nose.

Is it PRACTICAL and can it be useful.............Y E S !
That is why I intend to intensify the amount of neutral earth voltage
available equal to a MINI CEMAR. Do I know how to do that - yes I do.
Have spent the last few days putting together in thought mode the method and system to do just that.

Enough typing for now.

Thanks for your comments Wantomake. Hope some of this helps.

Respectfully,

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Hello Wantomake,

After I read your post I went back to your previous post where you pic showed the lamp and cap and the lamp glowing.
The lamp is just and INDICATOR that the circuit is alive. What it actually does is ARC OVER at 90 volts and the DROP BACK to 60 volts continual.
That is why your voltage is so low that the CFL will only flicker.
The GDT does the opposite.It doesn't turn on until the 75 volts its rated for
and then Allows FULL voltage thru continually which is why it becomes an IMMEDIATE DEAD SHORT. The CERAMIC mini .oo1 uf cap just acts as a small LOAD and gets rid of the dead short effect.

Don't know about the low amperage on the loop though? - you might check
it's supply from the inverter.
Secretly I believe the LOOP and it's Amperage reading is another "LOOKY HERE!" distraction they built into their devise to throw CEMAR off from what they were really doing. WHAT were they REALLY doing you say?
Think on it!.......CEMAR was FLOODING the countryside with VAST amounts
of NEUTRAL voltage through their SWER system. B&L (IMHO) just found a
simple but effective way to GOBBLE it up with out going thru any METER.
THAT is the same thing we are doing here. ALL OF YOU need ton think about
it! There is no MAGIC BULLET to this.

CEMAR is being substituted with our PV panel/battery/inverter/neutral earth input/neutral earth return/SWERsystem - it's just reality looking your nose to nose.

Is it PRACTICAL and can it be useful.............Y E S !
That is why I intend to intensify the amount of neutral earth voltage
available equal to a MINI CEMAR. Do I know how to do that - yes I do.
Have spent the last few days putting together in thought mode the method and system to do just that.

Enough typing for now.

Thanks for your comments Wantomake. Hope some of this helps.

Respectfully,

Clarence
Clarence,
If does help very much. Can't wait to test it with a GDT in the circuit.

I agree about the inverter power, been thinking about purchasing a smaller 300-400 watt and larger 8-10k for shop and home use respectively.

I've always believed and wondered about earth energy. Because of this system, I now know there's more to harness from good ole mother earth. No I don't know how but, being retired have the time to learn.

Over next few days will re-do and improve the setup for test and practical purposes.

Much to think on and prepare,
Thanks as always- wantomake
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Clarence,
If does help very much. Can't wait to test it with a GDT in the circuit.

I agree about the inverter power, been thinking about purchasing a smaller 300-400 watt and larger 8-10k for shop and home use respectively.

I've always believed and wondered about earth energy. Because of this system, I now know there's more to harness from good ole mother earth. No I don't know how but, being retired have the time to learn.

Over next few days will re-do and improve the setup for test and practical purposes.

Much to think on and prepare,
Thanks as always- wantomake
Wantomake,

Besides just thinking about it, I just went and disconnected the power leads from the toroid transformer altogether. Started the system again with all bulbs lit and glowing and while watching them intently i retouched the leads to the toroid transformer of and on for repeated times......did the lights brightness increase or decrease any at all?.....NOPE not a bit!

I had become suspicious a while back when looking at one of their Aluminium box units with it's amperage and voltage meters and the readings that were showing up while operating. The voltage was showing 221 v ac
but the amperage was showing only 55.0 amps. The wire size of the curved portion of the hidden loop showing out side the box meant it should have been reading about 106 to 120 amps but it wasn't.
That was when I started reasoning that some of the Amperage in the loop
must have been used up. Lately I have thrown that reasoning in the trash pile. I have not found that happening to this day at all.
So another "LOOKEY HERE" bites the dust. So I will just leave my toroid
with it's Loop disconnected and get on with reality.

Thanks And Respects,

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Besides just thinking about it, I just went and disconnected the power leads from the toroid transformer altogether. Started the system again with all bulbs lit and glowing and while watching them intently i retouched the leads to the toroid transformer of and on for repeated times......did the lights brightness increase or decrease any at all?.....NOPE not a bit!

I had become suspicious a while back when looking at one of their Aluminium box units with it's amperage and voltage meters and the readings that were showing up while operating. The voltage was showing 221 v ac
but the amperage was showing only 55.0 amps. The wire size of the curved portion of the hidden loop showing out side the box meant it should have been reading about 106 to 120 amps but it wasn't.
That was when I started reasoning that some of the Amperage in the loop
must have been used up. Lately I have thrown that reasoning in the trash pile. I have not found that happening to this day at all.
So another "LOOKEY HERE" bites the dust. So I will just leave my toroid
with it's Loop disconnected and get on with reality.

Thanks And Respects,

Clarence
Clarence,
You really got my attention. No toroid and loop? So where's the power coming from? The ground grid? I thought the loop was a electron captor?

Ok. Too many questions. Sorry but I still must wait for the GDT before I can do any testing or fun like you are.

Interesting for sure,
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Clarence,
You really got my attention. No toroid and loop? So where's the power coming from? The ground grid? I thought the loop was a electron captor?

Ok. Too many questions. Sorry but I still must wait for the GDT before I can do any testing or fun like you are.

Interesting for sure,
wantomake
Hello Wantomake,

This past evening after making my previous post, In my mind I had a flashback to to some prior years of photos of the actual B&L Captor unit.
I was seeing way to many large connectors and twist lock connectors
where there should have only been one Large split type connector. I had never given it much attention before (this was over three years ago) but it finally intrigued me enough till i went to my computer photo gallery files
and went through the yearly files month by month until i found it in 2014 year files. The pics are thumbnail jpg as shown below so you can see what I am talking about too.
Is it possible that the Captor was NOT a loop after all? were the ends left open after all? or were the ends clamped to some of the Green, Blue, or orange wire ends? I don't know at the moment but I sure as hell am going to find out!

First I will remove the split bolt and free the two ends and see what and if
any voltage is available and record everything as I go. I will make any and all type of connections until I find out.

Also I know that the DIY steel toroid they made and used for their units
actually had TWO separate coil winds, each clearly shown one above the other. (photo included ) all of this will most likely take awhile
but in the meanwhile keep going the way you are - after all THEIR and Our energy is going in and out of the good ole EARTH.

Will be working on it!

Respectively,

Clarence
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Clarence,
I can't get a lot from the pictures myself. But I'll give that a try. I've the time today while I wait on parts. I remember following the overunity website when this was a subject over there.

So will head to shop and try some loop disconnected test.

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Clarence,
I can't get a lot from the pictures myself. But I'll give that a try. I've the time today while I wait on parts. I remember following the overunity website when this was a subject over there.

So will head to shop and try some loop disconnected test.

wantomake
Hello, let me give you some early info for comparison.
1. loop disconnected = zero volts and zero amps.
2. loop reconnected = 106 amps. hmm?
3.loop reconnected and and alligator lead wrapped 4 turns to simulate
their toroid second layer coil = 4 volts. hmm?This suggests
that they used the first layer coil for one purpose and the second layer
coil for another purpose. will have figure that one out?
Will keep editing this post as I progress to avoid a lot of needless posting.
EDIT#1 A With the Loop ends disconnected and the toroid transformer powered I used a decent
sized alligator clipped lead between the two loop ends to act as a mini STOUGHT BAR/shunt
to see what effect that would have. The Clips would only grab a small amount of the multi stranded
#1 ought cable which inadvertently turned out to be a good thing. The more strands grabbed the higher the amp
reading - say 75 amp. The less strands grabbed the lower the amp reading - say 12 - 14 amp reading. evidently this is how they set the
available amp readin of 55 amps which they showed on the digital meter they used.
#2A At the sametime with the loop ends open I connected the neutral earth ground to one of the open ends and then connected the other open loop end to
the power strip load neutal . The Line input was connected straight to the terminal power strip line connection. with the inverter on the CFLs lite as they should - no problem.
Checked the amp reading on the usual center spot of the loop and it read the set 12 - 14 amps (stought bar in place) then I removed the the stought bar lead and the amp reading
showed only what was really being used - .7 amps instead of what was available. I used the PV/batt/inverter rig for several hours doing all this and seems to hold up fine.
will get back at it tommorrow. to try some more ideas.

Later

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Same test

Yes I did try #1 #2 to get same results as you. And did try different connections with the loop. But nothing worth typing about. I'm still waiting for the GDT thru snail mail.

Wish I had more to update,
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Yes I did try #1 #2 to get same results as you. And did try different connections with the loop. But nothing worth typing about. I'm still waiting for the GDT thru snail mail.

Wish I had more to update,
wantomake
Wantomake,

You really can't do anything without the GDT/CAP so waiting is it!
Am working to make another of my primary only toroids to B&L specs with their type secondary. takes a while but it's getting there.The thumbnails
below are important for the info they give.
Most would say WHAT INFO? that's cause their mind and eyes don't work together.

First these are B&L units being powered. They are being powered by MAINS!
Also they ALL have a FIVE WIRE CONTINUITY! Look at the pictures.
Also a set of same three are ALWAS INPUT_ TWO FROM MAINS + ONE FROM
EARTH!
Also a same set of TWO is ALWAYS OUTPUT! Notice the word CARGA
written on paper and taped to their unit wire entrance point for these TWO same wires. CARGA means LOAD!

That's one hell of a lot of info I'll be using now to try different hookup methods.

Also they show different amperage readings at TWO locations - one INPUT
and one OUTPUT to LOAD.
Also the LOAD AMPERAGE READING tells me that the LARGE WIRE COIL around their Toroid Core is definitely NOT LOOPED. Otherwise the Current
Transducer sending its signal to the unit digital amperage reading would only read a CONSTANT AMPERAGE OF ABOUT 106.0 Amps instead of what their hand held meters are showing--O.1 amps for toroid and 22 amps for the load
they were using at that time. I say this because the current transducer
was placed on the large coil wire to show what the load was amperage wise
for any total load at any time during use of the unit.

All of this knowledge will help me to work towards perfecting what I am doing using a PV/Battery/Inverter as a power supply instead of grid mains.

Well, back to working on the toroid.

Hang in there Wantomake, your parts will come in.

Thanks for listening,

Clarence
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Clarence,
Got the GDT in mail today, got it connected and the light still flashes and I found that I needed more input rods for the earth. And the voltage increased, light was full power. So I plugged the smart charger in the same receptacle, charger came on but light started flashing slowly. Also there's less drain on batteries with toroid unplugged.

I have tried the traditional circuit with GDT and .001 uf and CAN power the LED bulb plus run smart charger to keep battery bank charged. Batteries lost only a 10th of a volt (12.57 to 12.56) in one hour 20 minutes.

Now will try new setup you posted about earlier.

Hope you see something in those pics to improve upon. But I'll try some different setups and see what happens.

Having fun on nice afternoon,
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Well, back to working on the the toroid.
Wantomake,

This will be my intended outlook and direction reasoning in the revising
of one of my primary only toroid transformer.

The primary wind will still maintain it's low input amp of approx 0.30 amps.
and the secondary wind should show next to zero. The secondary will only serve as a voltage link/connection back to the primary volt/amp source.
The secondary will NOT have any inductive attribute whatsoever and the thumbnail below shows and explains why.
I believe this was the means B&L was able to tie their units to the utility grid
as a low amp circuit completion means and at the same time open the door to the vast amounts of earth energy being pumped into the whole country side as a Utility Grid. As I said the thumbnail below shows why I think like this. The pic shows three connection points One is the Blue wire that you see.. The other two are the Red/Orange open ends.
As a toroid transformer the Blue wire would have served as a connection to both the primary and the secondary (input/or output). The two orange or red
open ends would have been the circuit completion ends (input or output) .

Will know how correct all this works in the days to come.

Thanks Friend,

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Clarence,
Testing different setups but still wanting more from this system.

1. Trying different size wires wrapped around side of loop to see any difference.
2. Is the amount of rods for grounding input or output cause any increase in voltage.
3. How to harness the electrons from the loop , is this possible?

The setup now has 175 amps showing on the loop, can this be just an anomaly cause the clamp meter is fooled as the wire is connected in a loop?

I may not get past some of these tests with any valuable results, but will narrow down which part/parts needs changed.

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@ Clarence
@ Wantomake
@All,

Sorry, i dont understand why the secondery coil is not looped?

based on my own experiments:
i think the secondery coil is looped!!
But i am not very sure?...

if we use high inductance coil for the primary... then the output voltage geos up!!
else the input current geos up!!

well, i can charge 330 micro F 400 V to 320 v with no lenz law!!!!!! but how can we use that effect?

hope hearing from you!!

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Hello to All. This video It will help to the construction of the system , did not make it yet, but many people in the comment say it work. Wilnson Roa translation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYQEqzJmSsY
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Clarence,
Testing different setups but still wanting more from this system.

1. Trying different size wires wrapped around side of loop to see any difference.
2. Is the amount of rods for grounding input or output cause any increase in voltage.
3. How to harness the electrons from the loop , is this possible?

The setup now has 175 amps showing on the loop, can this be just an anomaly cause the clamp meter is fooled as the wire is connected in a loop?

I may not get past some of these tests with any valuable results, but will narrow down which part/parts needs changed.

wantomake
Hello J,

Go read your e-mail - the explanation is there.
Way to early too put something like that out to the public.
After I complete that process then maybe I'll offer it.
Maybe.

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Hello to All,
This setup from Barbosa and Leal is all about extracting excess energy from either the captor loop,ground,aether, etc. The loop can read from 60 - excess 200 amps with Amp clamp. So where do we start? As I add more grounding rods I can get more power from the ground . But only a trace amount with each rod added.
Please don't ask about my geomagnetic location, because I live in very high nT value area.

So a question to our knowledgeable crowd. What inventors got energy from the earth(ground) and how? I know Tesla did but how?

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This setup from Barbosa and Leal is all about extracting excess energy from either the captor loop,ground,aether, etc. The loop can read from 60 - excess 200 amps with Amp clamp. So where do we start? As I add more grounding rods I can get more power from the ground . But only a trace amount with each rod added.
Please don't ask about my geomagnetic location, because I live in very high nT value area.

So a question to our knowledgeable crowd. What inventors got energy from the earth(ground) and how? I know Tesla did but how?

wantomake

Hi i gues by parasitic capacitance...
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Hi i gues by parasitic capacitance...
Thanks Wistiti,
Yes, but can we do that without an ariel? I have tried the antenna and ground grid experiments, yes there's power there too. But trying to extract from just the ground as a source of energy.

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This setup from Barbosa and Leal is all about extracting excess energy from either the captor loop,ground,aether, etc. The loop can read from 60 - excess 200 amps with Amp clamp. So where do we start? As I add more grounding rods I can get more power from the ground . But only a trace amount with each rod added.
Please don't ask about my geomagnetic location, because I live in very high nT value area.

So a question to our knowledgeable crowd. What inventors got energy from the earth(ground) and how? I know Tesla did but how?

wantomake



Hello to All !


i just want to give a small answer about how to extract the power from ground or earth, if we talk about Tesla he always speak about special electromagnetic waves that has an electrostatic characters... even it's a varying time waves but has a common behaviors with the known electrostatic charges ... in this case it's normal to get negative charges from the earth , to get these waves we need a special capacitive discharge even i have my own theory in this but i still don't know how Tesla did it .. another requirements is high frequency for local energy production ... the third requirement is high voltage this is clear since we have electrostatic induction we need a relatively high voltage to attract more electrons from the ground .
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i just want to give a small answer about how to extract the power from ground or earth, if we talk about Tesla he always speak about special electromagnetic waves that has an electrostatic characters... even it's a varying time waves but has a common behaviors with the known electrostatic charges ... in this case it's normal to get negative charges from the earth , to get these waves we need a special capacitive discharge even i have my own theory in this but i still don't know how Tesla did it .. another requirements is high frequency for local energy production ... the third requirement is high voltage this is clear since we have electrostatic induction we need a relatively high voltage to attract more electrons from the ground .
Med.3012,
From the little I understand about our local utilities, I don't want to input/discharge high voltages into the ground. I fear that it may interfere with utility power and/or may bring them back to my location. Again my knowledge can and is growing but want to be careful here.

That's why I want to just extract energy from the ground. I've done some experiments with dc an ac with the ground rod grid next to my shop. Once I hammered (10" long)pvc 1/2" size into the ground, then placed a galvanised landscape (10" long) nail inside it. Just to see if those "waves" of any kind, would go from input nail to a output nail. I can't remember, but either dc or ac would bridge the gap. A 10 to 15 foot gap. This may be nothing but it was interesting to me. Of course tired many ways with iron, copper, galvanised nails,pipe, and rods just driven into the dirt with direct contact to the earth.

There's something there I know it. Just can't find it yet !!!!!

Please keep this discussion coming. You all have a universe of knowledge. Please share and let's stay focused and find this free energy Tesla was passionate about.
Mother earth (just my hippie term) has more to offer,
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From the little I understand about our local utilities, I don't want to input/discharge high voltages into the ground. I fear that it may interfere with utility power and/or may bring them back to my location. Again my knowledge can and is growing but want to be careful here.

That's why I want to just extract energy from the ground. I've done some experiments with dc an ac with the ground rod grid next to my shop. Once I hammered (10" long)pvc 1/2" size into the ground, then placed a galvanised landscape (10" long) nail inside it. Just to see if those "waves" of any kind, would go from input nail to a output nail. I can't remember, but either dc or ac would bridge the gap. A 10 to 15 foot gap. This may be nothing but it was interesting to me. Of course tired many ways with iron, copper, galvanised nails,pipe, and rods just driven into the dirt with direct contact to the earth.

There's something there I know it. Just can't find it yet !!!!!

Please keep this discussion coming. You all have a universe of knowledge. Please share and let's stay focused and find this free energy Tesla was passionate about.
Mother earth (just my hippie term) has more to offer,
wantomake


safety is very important but i don't think they can locate you if you use high frequency ... in my opinion if we use the correct Tesla waves they can reflect and earthing isn't a must here, for example the following Tesla experiment about lighting the spark gap is located in the primary side, you have the large induction coil connected in serial with another transformer , P1 can be the ground or any similar object but the ground is good for better performance :





this mechanism is behind Tesla wireless power transmitter, in this case we have a kind of transmitter/receiver the fascinating thing is the comment of Tesla !!







there's other quote i can give if you like where Tesla relate this with free energy generation, it's like you can convert voltage directly to electric current here there's no transformation, now based on Don smith discovery about electrons spinning the primary coil can help too much if we could emulate the behavior of permanent magnet into resonating coil ...
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wantomake[/QUOTE]Wantomake

I did finish my dual spool shuttle to be able to wind the Bifilar secondary
on my Primary only toroid core.
the two small spools of # 20 mag wire will arrive March 3rd. Should have ready for testing late on the 4th. Will see how all performs using the revision
I mentioned in E-mail.

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Wantomake,

Mag wire came in early.
Used shuttle - wound 175 turns Bifilar for a secondary.
BLUE colored lead wire comes Monday (tomorrow) .
Finish and testing Tuesday (maybe).
Posting Wednesday (maybe-maybe not?)

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Sounds interesting. Look forward to your results. Just wondering if you still plan to use ground grid since our last email. I'm still goofing around with it here and there.

Hope good results,
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Sounds interesting. Look forward to your results. Just wondering if you still plan to use ground grid since our last email. I'm still goofing around with it here and there.

Hope good results,
wantomake
Wantomake,

YES!. I do still plan to use the ground grid as shown in e-mail.
I also plan to use it being powered by my own utility company and
harvesting THEIR ground power instead of my PVbatt/inverter power.

I want to know what does what.

I also will be investigating another ground power source shortly.
However it is one that has been unsuccessfully replicated for usable
results by everyone that has tried. Repeatedly BLUDGEONED to death
because they fail to read the instructions.
For sure I won't say anything more about that for MONTHS.
Way too much involved for the worlds's zippity-do-da quicky approach.

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YES!. I do still plan to use the ground grid as shown in e-mail.
I also plan to use it being powered by my own utility company and
harvesting THEIR ground power instead of my PVbatt/inverter power.

I want to know what does what.

I also will be investigating another ground power source shortly.
However it is one that has been unsuccessfully replicated for usable
results by everyone that has tried. Repeatedly BLUDGEONED to death
because they fail to read the instructions.
For sure I won't say anything more about that for MONTHS.
Way too much involved for the worlds's zippity-do-da quicky approach.

Regards,

Clarence
That's the exact reason I'm here and spending resources on this idea. Even though I don't know how, the ground has more to offer than we know.

Not sure about of HV or high frequencies being the way to harvest mother earths free energy. But I'm not beyond it. If anything I just want to see this happen and get on with building a practical method to use.

I pray you are ok with this storm that's blowing through the southeast. We get it about 1:00 pm or so today.

Thanks Clarence,
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Hey, guys,
I got my toroids & got the heavy gauge wire wrapped around them (very neatly using the cut 2x4 method). I haven't done anything with the ground rods yet, but it sounds like that might not be the focus anyway?
You guys are way past me in terms of understanding (and probably time too)! Anything I can do to help you guys move forward?
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Hey, guys,
I got my toroids & got the heavy gauge wire wrapped around them (very neatly using the cut 2x4 method). I haven't done anything with the ground rods yet, but it sounds like that might not be the focus anyway?
You guys are way past me in terms of understanding (and probably time too)! Anything I can do to help you guys move forward?
Digits10,
All help is welcomed here. I follow what Clarence is putting together. He's working on the toriod secondary winding as far as I've read. I don't know if this still is necessary anymore or not, but check your area geomagnetic nT values. Just Google it and take note of the area you live in. With the old setup I was able to get some, not much, return from the ground rods I have in place so far. I only have a few like 4 input rods and 1 return rod. I could light a low watt cfl and power the smart battery charger over night and only lost a few tenths of a volt from my solar battery bank. Of course I removed the B & L setup from the loop and found that it will do the same with just the inverter connected to the rods.

Just word of caution, be careful with this setup. Make sure it's off before adding or touching any ground rods. I know cause this is same rods used to grid ground homes. Inverter has same danger as mains power lines. Has made me dance a few times myself. Lol.

Of course we are trying a different setup per Clarence and his instructions.

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Thanks for the reply. I did check my nT and interestingly, I'm in the hottest rating from the 1970's USGS uranium survey, but the 2003(?) European satellite survey, I'm in the lowest nT rating. They're nearly exactly opposite.
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