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Old 03-11-2017, 04:14 AM
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Okay I took care of it. We don't want to many signals getting crossed
in your process that has evolved over time based on the experiment.

I took off that Don Smith stuff. If anyone wants the DON SMITH go
to that thread.
THANKS AGAIN BRO!

Loved the Last Humor Effect.
The thread needs a little humor at times.

Will now be working towards the post discussed. Hopefully everything goes
well enough to be worthwhile. Has taken a lot of thought and effort - time
tells all!

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Yoo clever by half

Hello Clarence,
I liked the humour too. Just so we are clear This is what your BRO said -" Here are the first of the pictures Clarence may or may not put
up for those who might be interested. This is good work and good workmanship".

Still looks to me like you are copying the Maestro Don Smith? Are these the pictures you did not want anyone to see? While taking the Piss with your Mickey Mouse?

When you two tossers think you can take the Piss to try to cover up, you had better get ready.

Now Clarence and BRO, have a good day.


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Hello Clarence and BRO,

You will be pleased to know I have all the original pages before you "Cleaned " them. Nothing like the shrill of denials to promote distrust and the use of attack as being the best form of defense? There are only two tossers and a hacker (thief)here.

You might like to dwell on this quote "there are none so many truths that cannot be hidden". We will see!

If I were you Clarence I would own up admit it. This was the Don's work all along? Oh and as for leaving Overunity, they knew a thing or two there.

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Old 03-12-2017, 06:16 AM
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Not For Clarence to read!

Well, this little episode of checking credibilty has certainly upset Clarence. B and L has nothing to do with Don Smith of his offset toroids. Nothing could be further from the truth. All three systems based upon the notion of an offset, are more commonly known as Tesla's Asymetrical Transformer. Where it is possible to magnify the amplitude of an output using a split coil system. Intially, I think clarence moved from Overunity because they laughed at him, and kept having a go at him. Poor Clarence. It is easy to see why they didn't get on with him with his attitude. He just does not like being caught out!

Clarence has claimed that the error in the B and L patent was their avoidance of using toroids. Well, all Clarence was trying to do was muddy the waters. He might have understood what they were doing but it not suit his purpose, so he said the problem was the E transformer. Nothing could be further from the truth. If it does not suit his purpose, then he tries to ridiclue it, with his old fashioned blustering and insults.

Very professional!, Really very childish. However, the latest design using Don Smith's technique, "Allegedly" stolen from his account that was hacked, is theoretically very similar. Its just a matter of reorganising the offsets and coil specifications. So most likely that is what he was intending to do to get a greater increat of power and control over "His" circuit.

That's just briefly. However, being caught out, his buddy BRO, another chidish thread contributor, who posted the photos of the "New Design", removed them. Again, with much malice.

Both these contributors have failed to see the truth in this situation, and obviously do not care less. It was never my intention to create a disturbance, but as it is here, they will have to suck it up. And, especially in light of their petulant behaviour. It is because of their disregard to the facts, and attempts to conceal the intended alterations, that they have unwittingly boxed themselves into a corner.

It is now a matter of credibility for Clarence, who has listed me. So F..ing what? As if i care. This clever so and so also recently harassed another member. Clarence Likes the limelight. This thread is not about solving a Radiant Energy issue but, about Clarence tut tutting his way through to trying to solve a problem that has been well documented elsewhere.

One more issue. This thread is constanly being modified. As we speak, the Don is being cleansed from the system. errors are condtantly review to suit the current modification. Well, thats OK. Although, some might say they would have liked to work through the errors to understand why something was not working. I am personally of that view as it makes a thread all the more informative and educational. Over the past few days, there has been massive deletions and alterations so that Clarence and BRO can keep looking good. I'll have more to say about Brother BRO and his juvenile contributions later.

Tread your own path with care with this man, he is dangerous with his ignorance.
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Old 03-12-2017, 07:58 AM
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Old 03-12-2017, 11:20 AM
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Hello Bromikey, we will see

You have been the catalyst for disruption on this thread. You alone are responsible for that? Yet you blame someone else. Typical avoidance behaviour.

You have posted documents allegedly stolen from Clarence and without his permission. After this posting Clarence, claimed Thief. Was he referring to you? The question you need to answer is why would you post documents that do not belong to you? Also posting documents that you do not have permission to post? Are you the Thief Clarence is referring to?
Your actions in deleting the contentious images at Clarence’s request suggest collusion. Why did Clarence not request that these documents that have allegedly been stolen be deleted immediately?

Both yours and Clarence’s actions since the original post questioning the images and their similarity to Don Smith's work have been most unusual. I would almost suggest that a conspiracy has been discovered, but, what conspiracy? There is no point.

The next question for you to answer is why would both yourself and Clarence collude to insult and attempt to intimidate me? I know you will not answer these questions. I also request that you remove the offensive cartoons you have posted. I also know that you are the type that will not because it will make you think you have lost something. Trust me, as soon as you embarked upon attempting to vilify me, as has Clarence with his nonsensical comments, you have clearly shown your lack of maturity. Both you and Clarence are acting like children who have been caught being naughty. Have you both been naughty?
I do not see anything wrong in questioning the similarity of the stolen images you posted with the work of Don Smith. Clarence should have been flattered. I see both yours and Clarence’s actions as being over the top. Completely unnecessary. One might almost say Paranoid. One must also question why. After all, the differences between Don Smith's work and that of Barbosa and Leal are both joined by common operational similarities. I am certain that people reading through will now see you in a different light: most likely someone who is not to be trusted. That is completely your fault, just as Clarence is responsible for his stupid bumptious behaviour acting like an Ostrich with it’s head in the ground when somebody questions his work.
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Old 03-12-2017, 08:51 PM
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Hello Clarence and All,

To ALL:
now, i think everything B&L &Cl said is correct!! ...

To Clarence:
the output voltage is low, i think my setup is NOW free of lenz law!!
using only one ground rod? dont want that 60 ground rods solution?

i email you my latest diagram?

back to work!!

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For the record. There is no "hacker", there is no "thief".

clarence uploaded, out of his own free will, checking all the checkboxes, to a free public file sharing hosting. That is all there is to it.

I have read every post in this thread from day one. There is nothing lost. There is no progress of any kind. There is no knowledge gained. This thread is about the entertainment of C and C alone. Valid questions which only require simple straight up answer will be ignored or ridiculed the same as the day this thread started.

Ragarding Bro... well still not sure, think he means well. But is an ignorant promotor and a premium brown-noser to anybody claiming to have even the slightest insight of even remotely trying to suggest any knowabouts of OU in any shape or form. It surprises me he has the intelligents to take a dump.

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Hello @ All

Twit Butt so called slickdick just made it to the IGNORE LIST - won't be viewed by me anymore. HES GONE!


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Old 03-13-2017, 12:21 AM
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Hello Clarence and All,

To ALL:
now, i think everything B&L &Cl said is correct!! ...

To Clarence:
the output voltage is low, i think my setup is NOW free of lenz law!!
using only one ground rod? dont want that 60 ground rods solution?

i email you my latest diagram?

back to work!!

Thanks and Regards
luc2010
That is great news LUC, I will look forward to your next video if
you decide to make one. I can put up a diagram for you if you like.
My email is mrowland55@embarqmail.com

Good to see someone actually getting the extra.
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Eat your own words Dumb shyte! As posted by "Mikey"on UFO thread:-

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What a world. All of these folks who steal and belittle will never amount to anything. Keep pushing forward because your students are breaking all of the old models.

Nothing like a free loader.

Mikey"

That"s you and your other BRo's
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For the record. There is no "hacker", there is no "thief".

Clarence uploaded, out of his own free will, checking all the checkboxes, to a free public file sharing hosting. That is all there is to it.


Well Slickdick - I hope that your monicker is not what I think it is? - Why all the paranoia and name calling and juvenile posts? Why delete the Don Smith images? Why all the intimidatory comments? My shoulders are broad. Not so Clarence. As for Clarence, he is just some paranoid dude. Cannot cope with truth. As for Bromikey and his Juvenile name calling what is that all about. Any one coming into this thread will wonder if they can trust the people on it!

So I have been removed from the contact list. Fack! I won't be able to look myself in the mirror again. How will I be ever be able to look anyone in the eye again. Clarence has made me feel so ashamed of myself. What will I do with myself from now on?

Clarence had better wake up if he thinks he is so important that I would want to contact him. He should get real. Other people matter. He thinks like a bully and a control freak: he might even be on the spectrum. It is always amazing when petty people use petty argument insults and deception and refuse to look the world straight in the eye. F..king WAKE UP CLARENCE.

I have a complete unedited copy of this thread including the harassment of another member. That tells all, Clarence and his BRO are just a couple of superficial tossers. NO CLASS!!

Suck it up because this thread is never going to amount to much the clues are already there. If a simple question evoked such a CLUELESS response, what would a serious technical question provoke?

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So what, stop your silly comments and show us your device. You don't
have.
I shall stop my comments when you grow up and apologise. And your dumb leader, he has to apologise too - but then he is TOO PROUD! BAH HUMBUG to you. Also, might I remind you, I have not stated that I have built one of these. Why should I? There are far better solutions that work with greater ease. Only your little mind has been oscillating again. Making up stories and insults. READ MY FIRST POST ON THIS THREAD!

WHAT I WAS GOING TO STATE LATER WAS THAT I THOUGHT THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD EXPERIMENT TO CO-JOIN WITH. But I did not get a chance.
Only fools and horses jump in.

The problem for idiots like you is that you really do not know who you are dealing with. I know all about you!

Now be a good boy, grow up and apologise. That also goes for the other self-indulgent person who blew his top at the mention of Don Smith. If as SlickDick suggests - it is so innocent, why all the F...ing insults.

You had better understand both of you, you cannot think you can keep bullying or insulting other forum members without retaliation.

..........to be continued!
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I shall stop my comments when you grow up and apologise.

SEE YOU BELITTLE AND EXPECT ALL TO BOW

And your dumb leader, he has to apologise too - but then he is TOO PROUD!

CLARENCE IS A FINE MAN AND WE WOULD SAY WE WERE SORRY IF
WE HAD DONE ANYTHING WRONG AS YOU SUGGEST.



BAH HUMBUG to you. Also, might I remind you, I have not stated that I have built one of these.

YES AND THIS IS THE POINT UNLESS YOU CAN CONSTRUCTIVELY
CONTRIBUTE TO THE WORK AT HAND, WHICH YOU ARE UNWILLING
TO DO, THEN YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF YOUR AGREEMENT TO
KEEP THE PEACE. YOU WERE ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM CONTINUED
ENTRIES ON THIS THREAD THAT ONLY HAS BEEN A DISRUPTION.


Why should I?

THE REASON YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO BE HERE IS TO LEARN FROM
THOSE LEADING THE WAY IN THIS FIELD OF RESEARCH SO YOU
MAY BE ABLE TO MORE EASILY BUILD ONE.


There are far better solutions that work with greater ease.

WE HAVE OUR HANDS FULL NOW WITHOUT ALTERING OUR EXPERIMENTAL
DATA FOR EVERY PERSON WHO HAPPENS BY THINKING THEY KNOW
BETTER THAN WE DO
.

Only fools and horses jump in.

WE DO NOT CONSIDER KEEPING OUR FOCUS ON THE DATA WE HAVE
THUS FAR AND REJECTING NON-VERIFIED CLAIMS FOOLISH.

WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN ENDLESS TALK


The problem for idiots like you is that you really do not know who
you are dealing with. I know all about you!

I DO NOT HIDE ANY OF MY INFORMATION MY NAME IS MICHAEL
ROWLAND, I LIVE IN CENTRAL KANSAS AND HAVE GIVEN OUT MY
TELEPHONE NUMBER TO ALL WHO WISH TO CONTACT ME.

YES I DO KNOW WHO I AM DEALING WITH, I AM DEALING WITH A
PERSON WHO IS A BELLIGERENT TROUBLE MARKER WHO ONLY WANTS
TO DISRUPT THE CONTINUITY AND HARMONY OF THIS PROJECT.

SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW.


Now be a good boy, grow up and apologise.

I AM ALL GROWN UP AND HUMBLY ASK THAT YOU WOULD RESPECT
OUR WISHES TO STAY FOCUSED ON THE PROJECT AT HAND AND
IF I HAVE OFFENDED YOU WITH MY DEMANDS IN THIS AREA, IT
WAS AND IS NOT MY GOAL.


That also goes for the other self-indulgent person who blew his top
at the mention of Don Smith.

CLARENCE IS GREAT MAN WHO HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY ON TESLA
BASED DEVICES AND FREELY GIVES TO ALL FOR THE ASKING. EVEN
WITHOUT ASKING CLARENCE GIVES.


If as SlickDick suggests - it is so innocent, why all the F...ing insults.


AS I HAVE CONTINUED TO STATE, THAT THIS THREAD IS DESIGNATED
TO CERTAIN RESEARCH AND THE HARMONY OF IT'S CONTRIBUTORS
LABELING ALL OTHER ENTRIES AS SECONDARY. CONTINUED REJECTION
OF THESE GUIDELINES QUALIFIES AS OPPOSITION.

YOU ARE FREE TO OPPOSE IN YOUR OWN THREAD.

CONSTANT CRITICISM IS UNWELCOME AND TAKES AWAY FROM THE
WORK TO BE ACCOMPLISHED. SLICK HAS REPEATEDLY DEMONSTRATED
THIS CHARACTERISTIC WHICH IS HIS RIGHT HOWEVER HAS THE WISDOM
TO STOP WHEN HE IS IN THE WRONG PLACE, FOR THAT I THANK HIM.



You had better understand both of you, you cannot think you can
keep bullying or insulting other forum members without retaliation.

..........to be continued!
Begging your forgiveness is not part of the agenda, so go find
worshipers elsewhere.


.................................................. ........................
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Hello @ Clarence,
Hello @ All,

well, ok

i have my single toroid and one captor + 3 ground rods (a ground grids a must)!
the output was 62 Volts only...
with the best part NO LENZ LAW!! ... but hers a little problem:
when we add a load the output geos down!! .. may be this is radiant energy or scalar wave or what ever you want to call it.

Friends STOP TALKING AND START BUILDING!! please

@ Clarence
Sir, are you now using the 60 ground rods? or any alternative?

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worshipers elsewhere.


.................................................. ........................
Next time we meet, you will realise how stupidity can affect you. As I said, I know all about you, you do not know anything about me . Yet!

Adios, soon to be f..kwit
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Hello @ Clarence,
Hello @ All,

well, ok

i have my single toroid and one captor + 3 ground rods (a ground grids a must)!
the output was 62 Volts only...
with the best part NO LENZ LAW!! ... but hers a little problem:
when we add a load the output geos down!! .. may be this is radiant energy or scalar wave or what ever you want to call it.

Friends STOP TALKING AND START BUILDING!! please

@ Clarence
Sir, are you now using the 60 ground rods? or any alternative?

Best Regards
luc2010
Hello LUC,

Good to hear from you Sir!
What I am doing at present involves a combination of 3 different ratios.
One of which includes the original 60.

At present I have less time to spend here to put towards working on my unit
but I have three to four different methods in a self loop type setup and all of them work as designed. Some are more efficient than others so I will show LATER the one that works the best. As I said and you know , time will tell.

As far as your statement about fighting is concerned, when a nasty mouth
lacking realistic brain power directs his nasty to me he will GET IT BACK
right then and NOT LATER. Now and in the past when any member has been especially WORTHLESS I simply go to the Forum Control Panel - CP and click on the wording....edit the ignore list ...and when it comes up I add THEIR name and then click Save and it's done! I never see them or their comments EVER AGAIN!!!!! GONE like SPAM.
From then on they just keep wading in their own little mud puddle by
themselves and it never affects my screen view at all. I would suggest you and other members do the same. It keeps your posting operation clean and quiet.

As always, I will post something new when it is wortwhile to do so.

Respectfully LUC,

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Next time we meet, you will realise how stupidity can affect you. As I said, I know all about you, you do not know anything about me . Yet!

Adios, soon to be f..kwit
I am not a worshiper of your peers so threats are silly. Like you.
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I am not a worshiper of your peers so threats are silly. Like you.
Ask yourself, "what is best served cold?

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Small update

Hello BroMikey,

Just a small update of sorts.
For Quite a while now I have suspected that B&L's units (Early Models) were
all being powered by The Utility Grid in their area Known as C E M A R.
CEMAR is a SWER type utility grid One HOT line wire on each pole with the
neutral being supplied by means of the Earth/Ground .

Location did not actually play a great role in using their units. Their suggested
60 Rods and Later suggested 26 rods were only another smoke screen to keep CEMAR from looking in the right direction during the period when Cemar came to their site and performed the tests that they made.
In all of their demos they always made a great show of holding up the green ground return wire as if it were MAGIC - In reality ..... NOT SO.
A ground return Rod (ONE) is necessary for sure. Without the ONE nothing happens.

Lately I have used: 2 rods as input with 60 return - works fine!
2 rods as input with one return - works fine!
1 rod as input with one return - works fine!
Whole lot of SMOKE was blown in my opinion and results show.

In the thumbnail below you will notice a blue circled item and a black circled item.
I followed this format exactly for my last results except for the two circled Items and my results FINALLY came out as expected. The BLACK circle denotes that they used the CEMAR GRID as initial and follow through power.
Instead I used my 25 Watt PV/Batt combo as the power supply.
I made it have its own line and earth/Ground return supply same as the CEMAR SWER system.

The BLUE circle denotes the use of a Gas Discharge Tube! THAT WILL NOT WORK AT ALL!!!! A GDT USED BETWEEN A HOT AND NEUTRAL IS A SHORT CIRCUIT!!!!!
I used another type of component a .001 uf small capacitor soldered in series to the GDT to act as a MINI load to prevent a short circuit and THEN placed it as shown
in the illustration to draw in the return voltage from the ground and enable it to be used in conjunction with the high amperage toroid loop and pass on as one of the
ultimate lead wires for loads. all just as the illustration shows except for the two circled items.

In the past recent efforts I never was able to get the high amperage loop to supply any of its high amperage through the ground return loop and on to whatever loads.
The loop amperage dropped from 106.0 amps down to 103.0 amps.
The loads were one 4 watt nite light - two 13 watt CFL lights and one 100 watt CFL.
Will have more to say at a later date when I finish my 2 Inverter system.

Respectfully,

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Hey that is great news Clarence

So all I need is a few rods not 60 anymore right? So now I am
anxious to see the connection diagram exactly the way it works
the best when you do the final analysis.

We don't want to jump the gun and a that is my message to so
many frustrated people who are worried about lowly experimenters
smashing all the models at Yale.

Boy are they in for a big surprise when all of these creeping technologies
get combined into a package that is easy and unstoppable. I see this
happening on so many fronts.

This work is another excellent offering to the new generation of
youth who will run with this ball.
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Hello BroMikey,

Just a small update of sorts.
For Quite a while now I have suspected that B&L's units (Early Models) were
all being powered by The Utility Grid in their area Known as C E M A R.
CEMAR is a SWER type utility grid One HOT line wire on each pole with the
neutral being supplied by means of the Earth/Ground .

Location did not actually play a great role in using their units. Their suggested
60 Rods and Later suggested 26 rods were only another smoke screen to keep CEMAR from looking in the right direction during the period when Cemar came to their site and performed the tests that they made.
In all of their demos they always made a great show of holding up the green ground return wire as if it were MAGIC - In reality ..... NOT SO.
A ground return Rod (ONE) is necessary for sure. Without the ONE nothing happens.

Lately I have used: 2 rods as input with 60 return - works fine!
2 rods as input with one return - works fine!
1 rod as input with one return - works fine!
Whole lot of SMOKE was blown in my opinion and results show.

In the thumbnail below you will notice a blue circled item and a black circled item.
I followed this format exactly for my last results except for the two circled Items and my results FINALLY came out as expected. The BLACK circle denotes that they used the CEMAR GRID as initial and follow through power.
Instead I used my 25 Watt PV/Batt combo as the power supply.
I made it have its own line and earth/Ground return supply same as the CEMAR SWER system.

The BLUE circle denotes the use of a Gas Discharge Tube! THAT WILL NOT WORK AT ALL!!!! A GDT USED BETWEEN A HOT AND NEUTRAL IS A SHORT CIRCUIT!!!!!
I used another type of component a .001 uf small capacitor soldered in series to the GDT to act as a MINI load to prevent a short circuit and THEN placed it as shown
in the illustration to draw in the return voltage from the ground and enable it to be used in conjunction with the high amperage toroid loop and pass on as one of the
ultimate lead wires for loads. all just as the illustration shows except for the two circled items.

In the past recent efforts I never was able to get the high amperage loop to supply any of its high amperage through the ground return loop and on to whatever loads.
This time I finally succeeded.
The loop amperage dropped from 106.0 amps down to 103.0 amps.
The loads were one 4 watt nite light - two 13 watt CFL lights and one 100 watt CFL.
The amperage checked on the ground return wire BEFORE the 2 1/2 turns
around the loop and afterwards reflected the same amount of increase
so the amperage has to be coming from the looped coil just as B&L said it should do.

Will have more to say at a later date when I finish my 2 Inverter system.

Respectfully,

Clarence
Hello Clarence,
Sounds good. I still have the basic setup on my side bench which I also use solar batteries and inverter as power supply. Still have the ground grid to use also. The system is in my shop 120 feet from my house and 50 feet from nearest utility pole. I didn't use GDT at first but later tried one (same as yours) in the setup with same results.

So I'm very happy to see you figure how to get more out of the setup. Will you share here or is this something you don't want to show cause some may not be ready for this?

Either way is ok. I understand and it's good this can be used to harvest some free or kind of free energy.
wantomake
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Hello Clarence,
Sounds good. I still have the basic setup on my side bench which I also use solar batteries and inverter as power supply. Still have the ground grid to use also. I didn't use GDT at first but later tried one (same as yours) in the setup with same results.

So I'm very happy to see you figure how to get more out of the setup.
Hello Wantomake,

Glad to hear from you and would LOVE to see you share your results also.Any and all info you can add and share with members I'm sure they would appreciate instead of just looking at my side of the story.
Let'er rip Brother!

Thanks and Respects,

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Post 1310

Hey Clarence,
Thanks for the edited post 1310, that helps a lot. Hope to get everything setup and add the capacitor to the mix.

I want also to add more rods to match the rms of the inverter. If that's needed I will.

If I can show the person supporting this build that it does work, then more can be spent on rods. No not my wife lol.

But I'll take some pics and maybe a YouTube vid and post it here. So just to be clear- I will use the old original schematic for the input and return for the grid wiring. Cause the schematic shown in post 1310 only has the return drawn.

Much to get done.
Much respect and thanks,
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Clarence,
Here is my setup from today. Still same amount of energy produced. Not Sure if size of capacitor (0.33 uf 350v) is the problem or just too few rods. It almost powers a 13 watt cfl. the LED bulbs just flash. Or I may have the whole setup wrong.

But this what I have so far. Had to stop we have bad storms about today.

wantomake

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Here is my setup from today.
Hello Wantomake,

I can Imagine your frustration when things don't go as planned.
Been there done that many times over.

There are only a couple things needed to get every thing going in the right direction. For one I believe you misinterpret the the Illustration shown on earlier posts.
Be that as it may, in the next few days I will take a couple of pics of
everything involved and then your problems will be gone. you can just look at the very simple setup I have made on the top of my cart and then do the same. I don't really like schematics but these pics will put you in the ball game.

Also PLEASE PLEASE TEAR your mind off the thought of doing any more ground rods ---It would just be a waste. Use one or two of what you have
for earth input and the rest of what you have for earth return.

The blinking CFL will soon be gone and easily overcome.
When you consider what you will see is working from a 25 Watt PV with a total of 8 AH Li batteries powering a 300 Watt GoPower inverter and run for a fair amount of time you will just laugh and shake you head.

So check back in a couple of days and it should be available.

Thanks & Respects,

Clarence
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What a relief !!!!

Thanks ole friend,
That's the best news I've read. I couldn't sleep last night with that setup going over and over in my head !!!!! Great about the ground rods too.

I'll be patient and wait for your pictures. Will be good to see what this puppy can output.

Much respect and thanks,
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Thanks ole friend,
That's the best news I've read. I couldn't sleep last night with that setup going over and over in my head !!!!! Great about the ground rods too.

I'll be patient and wait for your pictures. Will be good to see what this puppy can output.

Much respect and thanks,
wantomake
Hello Wantomake,

Here is the simple little build staying with the illustration from some recent posts.

The 25 Watt PV/8 AH batt/300 Watt inverter sends Neutral input into earth by ground rod - that input is retrieved by earth return rod - that ground neutral
return wire goes straight thru to become the neutral supply to the toroid transformer.
The Hot wire from the inverter just goes straight to the toroid transformer as its power supply. that same hot wire is tapped to power the GDT/.oo1 uf cap as a small LOAD which is connected back to the earth return neutral to provide an intensified path through the 1 1/2 turn around the TWO turns of the Toroid LOOP and then finally passes on to become the actual Neutral to power whatever LOADS. In this case Lights.
Everybody likes to .....SEE....... something HAPPEN. (HA HA!). So do I!!

Just a little side note: If you turn off ALL THE LIGHTS in the room and the unit is still running you will notice that the GDT has a slight COOL pink glow to it. IT SHOULD do that.

Another side note: in the last post where i said the toroid LOOP AMPERAGE
had dropped and that it should do that........that was a bummer on my part!
The drop was caused by some voltage DECREASE through the 300 Watt inverter. After all the 25 Watt PV/Batt is NOT a real GIANT voltage supply like a Utility Company would be. It does the best it can within it's limits. the whole purpose of the build is to find out find out what needs to be improved
and give some idea how to do it.

This little unit with GOOD STRONG sunlight will run the bulbs and itself for
about an hour or more. not bad for it's size.

See what you can do with it friend!

Respectfully

Clarence
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Headed to the shop!!!

Thanks Clarence,
Right after typing this the shop is all mine!!! I drew a rough schematic from your pics and good explanation. I don't have that GDT, will order one.

Can't wait to get started. Will post what I find and experience with this new improvement.

Thanks for sharing,
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