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Transformers are used every day in radio transmitters all over the earth. They can easily be used up to gigahertz frequencies if designed properly. But a transformer for 60 hertz will quickly overheat at 400 hertz if loaded. The transformer has to be designed for the frequency. A bunch of resistors as a voltage divider is wasting most of the power in heating the resistors. A transformer allows you to use most of the power instead of wasting it.
Thanks Sis,

I did not know the frequency and that was why I said "If 50-60Hz". And if he doesn't want or can't find a high frequency transformer, it would not be too difficult to wind an air core transformer, would it. But let him use the divider network. Maybe they'll get cold instead of hot and there will be no wasted power.

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Thanks Sis,

I did not know the frequency and that was why I said "If 50-60Hz". And if he doesn't want or can't find a high frequency transformer, it would not be too difficult to wind an air core transformer, would it. But let him use the divider network. Maybe they'll get cold instead of hot and there will be no wasted power.

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It was several posts back where he says he is working in the kilohertz range, so it would be easy to overlook that part.
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It was several posts back where he says he is working in the kilohertz range, so it would be easy to overlook that part.
Yeah, forgot that. But he does say he ordered twelve 10 megohm resistors for the divider network. With regular electricity, that will limit the load to just several microamps. But BM claims this type of electricity likes resistors, and Clarence says he knows what he's doing, so I'll shut up and stand by.

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Okay let me point out what has been released by Clarence recently
but before I get started i would like to add that those steeped in
classically theory need to realize that it is not the goal of this thread
to reeducate frustrated nebee's indoctrination's of the last 200 years engineering models.

Those of us who have lived longer have met with the same pains of
confusion so set out to get answers on our own. It is not important
to always point out 9th grade electronics formula's as a method of
backing one's self up that makes you feel better.

Feeling good is important, true, but more importantly how to go
beyond the stumbling blocks intentionally place in our path.

Constant derailing of this thread will be met by a swift and final disaster
by putting you and the other who chose a confusing path in to a shoe.

Don't make me the bad guy.

Okay here is what the goal of this thread is.

Clarence is posting his results of years of research, is not a 30 yrs old
university engineering professor who is willing to devote the rest of his
natural life to butt heads with 100,000 guys all parroting the same thing.

He is here with the expectation that you have been following his train
of thought that has been and will continue to be outside the BOX.

This foto was placed in the public domain years ago by Don Smith
and met with just as much ridicule. This shows us that to understand
Clarence we would need to have done some work in that areas of research
first before you can make any definitive statements on how that work
contradicts present theory.

Also I might add that other fields of research/pursuit for Clarence
are many in the last 50 years. The Kapagen work is a similar overlapping
technology, Tesla coils of all kinds and so on. B&L device and more.

Here is what Clarence has posted, it verifies DON's diagram's of the
voltage divider that in and of itself is considered to be wasting power
by established norms.

CONFIRMATION of Don's diagram is the message. This is why Clarence
has singled out people to show this to who are in the process of looping
their free energy machines.

Keep in mind that to charge a larger stationary battery while it is still
delivering power should be compared to the amount of current needed
to run an automobile. 10-30amps or maybe more.

First Clarence diagram THEN Don's diagram.




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Old 12-31-2015, 10:22 PM
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Hey BM,

I guess you have already forgotten the Clarence has proven for himself that all that garbage from Don Smith about changing frequency doesn't work. Maybe you should read and try to absorb what has already been posted before polluting a thread with more of your nonsense.
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Yeah, forgot that. But he does say he ordered twelve 10 megohm resistors for the divider network. With regular electricity, that will limit the load to just several microamps. But BM claims this type of electricity likes resistors, and Clarence says he knows what he's doing, so I'll shut up and stand by.

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This post was completely unnecessary. BroMikey is probably a nice person if one were to get to know him. It is not my job to judge what he chooses to believe and share. I have the right to ignore but that's as far as my rights extend.

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Hello BroMikey,

the buzz crowd was posting how to put you on the ignore list, however guess who went in the first group. Y U P !

There are actually only a few ernest decent valuable members on the forum left thru this last year for certain. most recognize its DECAY and don't use it any more. If they stick me on their ignore list who gives a rat's ass. won't be me.
will just leave a CLEAN forum for us at their expense.

Lately I have been thinking of staying away from the forum and it's crap myself. there simply isn't any info I will need from the forum anyway. so it will not be a loss for me at all. it's the other way around per usual.

will push thru till I rough finish this unit as I intended and then will tear it down and revise each item to durable product standards of my design for a completed 120/240/120 usable unit to power my household and dismiss
the grid system entirely. I built my house with an incorporated ATS unit
years back just for that purpose. I also have a 2400 kva transformer that's been standing by all this time also.
so nothing will be a push for me.
will get back to you by forum or E next week after the resisters come in
and pass you the results. right now I'm thinking E.

thanks Bro!

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Hello BroMikey,

the buzz crowd was posting how to put you on the ignore list, however guess who went in the first group. Y U P !

There are actually only a few ernest decent valuable members on the forum left thru this last year for certain. most recognize its DECAY and don't use it any more. If they stick me on their ignore list who gives a rat's ass. won't be me.
will just leave a CLEAN forum for us at their expense.

Lately I have been thinking of staying away from the forum and it's crap myself. there simply isn't any info I will need from the forum anyway. so it will not be a loss for me at all. it's the other way around per usual.

will push thru till I rough finish this unit as I intended and then will tear it down and revise each item to durable product standards of my design for a completed 120/240/120 usable unit to power my household and dismiss
the grid system entirely. I built my house with an incorporated ATS unit
years back just for that purpose. I also have a 2400 kva transformer that's been standing by all this time also.
so nothing will be a push for me.
will get back to you by forum or E next week after the resisters come in
and pass you the results. right now I'm thinking E.

thanks Bro!

respects,

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Since I have been a late arrival to this forum, I have only had a short time to appreciate its virtues and the virtues of its best participants.

My feelings very much are a mirror image of yours. This, or, any other forum has little to really help me, Lord God gave me what i need while I was still in the womb. In this lifetime, it is important, in carrying out the job, to sometimes cooperate with a fellow worker in the field, or, to simply be encouraged by noticing that there is also somebody else also trying to help humanity whether they deserve it or not.

Quite frankly, my major motive is told by reading the Bible starting with Matthew 25:31. My life is dictated by Jesus, and Jesus has said, "I am not willing that even one shall perish."

When I was in the womb, apparently, Lord God perceived that I was too simple-minded to become agile with electricity and electronics and put me on a course to examine simple, easy to see and understand, mechanical physics. In the course of my life, up to now, I have devoted about 50 of my 73 years to looking for anomalies in that field. In examining roughly 500 concepts (including quite a number of my own invention); I have a handful or two that either work to provide over-unity, OR, require that low velocity, low energy, physics be GROSSLY reworked. In a way, it is win-win. Either my life work can potentially provide humanity with prosperity, or, fundamental physics can be re-written in some kind of correct way. Which, hopefully, will also lead to benefit for humanity.

Your work has GREATLY encouraged me. I am not very egotistical, but, I sincerely hope that somehow I have been encouraging to you. We are both trying to be helpful to our society against powerful opposing force.

Our individual work does not seem to me to be in opposition, but rather, to be overlapping, or, adjuncts to each other.

In the Old Testament, one of God's prophets was feeling discouraged. Lord God told him, "Look with eyes of spirit, out there." The prophet looked and saw 10,000 other messangers of God who outnumbered the enemy soldiers menacing the prophet.

You and i, and every other man who wants to do righteousness and help God to help humanity, need to remember that WE OUTNUMBER THE CROOKS.


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Hello CANGAS,

WELL SAID!
I need not add.
I remember back when I was 73.

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hello BroMikey,

Yes, it is better to help than hurt!

while waiting for my resistors, I remembered my shelved DIY Voltage Control unit I had made back in 2009 while on the DS pages.

I drug it out and powered it with the one TBC coil that has 123 vac output.I made it as a selective voltage control then so I used my DVMM to check its operation on this HF low voltage output to see what it would show. at the center connection it showed a drop fro 123 vac to 63.5 vac. at the far end connectio it showed a controlled drop to 51.5 vac. still produces a steady controlled drop same as back then.
I encapsulated it back then in an acrylic clear tube knowing ahead of time it would have to be heat free to not melt the tube I housed it in. it still doesn't heat and does'nt require a heat sink.
I will have to remodel it to drop the voltage down to what will produce a 14.5 dcv steady voltage supply for direct input into the battery circuit.

first though, I will pursue the voltage divider method to accomplish the same thing. however , at the first sign of any problem I will remodel this VC unit in the same manner I made it then.

The internal ingriedient is carbonyl iron powder - 99.5% pure, mixed slightly with a secret ingriedient to give it solidstate characteristic.
I still have plenty of materials to make a large enough unit to get the job done. However , if need be, I still have another easy method to do the same thing.
no back pushed against the wall here!

BTW: photos attached

Glad talking with you!
Later BRO.

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Wow that is great Clarence

Looks like a big resistor.

Is see the stuff now, maybe add high temp epoxy? For binding?


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Hello BroMikey,

coming to you on E !.

there soon,

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I like your secret ingredient. I looked all over the Don Smith stuff to
see some of your prior work. It must be on OVERUNITY thread?

It's call Don Smith VC or Voltage Control? I will keep reading.

Not sure why a nail was used but the dust packed around the
center tap coil is clear. I'll go read it again. Thanks for all of the
great cues.

I heard DON say in one of his talks he was using a special control
and thought he was talking about a variac.
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I like your secret ingredient. I looked all over the Don Smith stuff to
see some of your prior work. It must be on OVERUNITY thread?

It's call Don Smith VC or Voltage Control? I will keep reading.

Not sure why a nail was used but the dust packed around the
center tap coil is clear. I'll go read it again. Thanks for all of the
great cues.

I heard DON say in one of his talks he was using a special control
and thought he was talking about a variac.
Hello BroMikey,

you can stop looking!
it is and was mine!
I used and never showed it any where - didn't think it was a great event.
wasn't looking for kudos - just cruising with the flow as some of my old builds show. couldn't afford the expensive caps in 2009 so quit.

still flowing along per usual.
appreciate the interest though!
Have a GREAT NEW YEAR @ ALL!

the secret ingredient is a real floor roller isn't it! HA! HA!
the ring groves on the NAIL shanks made the bonding after dry LOCK and hold FOREVER!

Respectfully,

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Gotcha, All clear. I didn't find a thing anyway. It did get me
thinking about was all of the homemade resistors and capacitors
people make. All research pays off in the end.

I have been thinking about doing some cores and stuff like
that with High Temp epoxy and many electrical devices use the
dust you posted. I just never noticed that one before.

Someone seems to think you failed in the Don Smith thread
learning how frequencies are manipulated. Can you believe
these people? Because they can't figure it out they assume
you and I can't do it.

Okay i erased some of that information that is not needed
within keeping of the main theme. The information states
that the use of that dust is good for HF electronic parts to
stabilize operation. According to the patents that dust you
posted is a wave guide as well as a means to dissipate heat.

That dust is well known and offers many good results in
High Frequency work. Also called WAVE ABSORBING.

On the secret ingredient, I am wondering what that stuff
is made out of? I got some here and always wondered.
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Hello Mr Clarence and BroMikey, I have tried to follow you guys but it is impossible for me you are out off my league, anyways keep learning more and more, for example the resistor can't find the specific part, not sure how you will increase the power using the captor or not? anyways I'll follow your work whit great interest best wish for all in 2016.
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Hello Mr Clarence and BroMikey, I have tried to follow you guys but it is impossible for me you are out off my league, anyways keep learning more and more, for example the resistor can't find the specific part, not sure how you will increase the power using the captor or not? anyways I'll follow your work whit great interest best wish for all in 2016.

Hi Fer

I don't know if you see the Tesla coil information how a Tesla coil
is amps on one side? And volts of the other?

There are many ideas at play here. ONE the Captor can connect to
the low frequency hum of the earth ground with hundreds of amps
at low volts. NOW you have your AMPS

NEXT

The TESLA BIFILAR PANCAKE style coil offers High voltage without
working very hard to get it.

NOW you have your volts

Well not exactly BUT the two can be operated together to run things.

Both devices CAN draw in the EXTRA so this is a double whammy.

Or should I say it COULD BE. Only if tuning is properly done with
the caps and resistors. The resistor we were talking about in not
needed, Clarence ordered his online.

He was talking about how he tried making a resistor one time but
that is another project unrelated to this one. Just small talk.

I like to pick Clarence brain on all the stuff he's ever tried.
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Hello BroMikey, thanks for the reply, I was reading most of your post and I have a nice idea how don smith system in general work, but Mr Clarence is planning to use the volts 12v from the ZVS,TPC,TBC,and the voltage divider direct to the battery circuit and how he will connect to the captor? the other TBC have a high frequency? How he will make it work? Will be nice to see that. Anyways I will be reading and waiting. Wish you the best.
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Plasma Power Generator Transformer 1...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lpbyzTQZag&feature=em-uploademail.


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HI Fer


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Well the New Year has come. Greeting to all......!!


I hope everyone is enjoying any progress each has made
in understanding new energy forms.

I sure am.

And guess what? A secret admirer of DON SMITH and of course
Mr.Tesla has contacted me privately with some early pictures
of DON'S for your review.

It was brought to my attention after I made a post a few days
ago about a statement DON made in his video. Don was talking
about his board components and as DON gave a run down piece
by piece he pointed out his variac.




Now this is a standard variac we all have for experimenting with
right? That's right I have several. But this will not work.
It won't you say? Well I would say not because DON went out
of his way to point out his variac and specifically stated that it
needed to be THAT one for the sign transformers.

Our secret admirer may have gone to Don's events or just collected
data way back in the day but regardless here are the early pictures
YOU DON'T HAVE.

How can you stick to DON'S information and not have it all?

We are still gathering the right parts it seems.





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No go on the voltage divider

Hello BroMikey,

built the voltage divider - nice and neat per usual but neat doesn't cut in the real world. takes perfection as close as you can get it!

the problem was having to use to many MAX mega ohm resisters. 10 Mohm
was the size I used and it required 12 to get the job done. however with the percentage difference in the whole lot it caused a net deficiency in the end result. missed by a slight margin - however enough to screw up the whole works!
Also there was a lot of constant fluctuation back and forth in the voltage values,
and that would not serve my purpose for the DC going into the battery.
SO
as I said before , if I ran into any problems , I would make a new larger
voltage control/regulator like the photo I showed recently.
This time I will make it larger with more selection connection points to nail the exact end voltage I need before rectifying anything. the smaller one had very little fluctuation to it.

OH well! just passing info and time.
@ ALL - Later!

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Your real problem is having such an ego problem you won't listen to those that have tried to help you. If you would use a transformer all those problems would be gone. You could probably even use an automotive ignition coil as a step down transformer. Or winding an air core transformer is not that hard either. It is a shame you'll listen to a person who knows nothing instead of those that have some real experience with these things.
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Your real problem is having such an ego problem you won't listen to those that have tried to help you. If you would use a transformer all those problems would be gone. You could probably even use an automotive ignition coil as a step down transformer. Or winding an air core transformer is not that hard either. It is a shame you'll listen to a person who knows nothing instead of those that have some real experience with these things.
Okay it appears that Sis is not our secret admirer. Instead of posting
a possible circuit solution as if we were able to read a diagram we get
nothing but condescending insults. That's how my Sis talks to me too.

I you want to help people this is not the optimum approach and having
said that I begin to realize anyone who is not aware of these facts
might not be as smart as Sis puts on.

Oh well never mind, here, take a seat for just a minute Sis and let me
talk, you are goofing up pretty bad. One more things Sis just because
I called you down for your insulting behavior don't let that stop you
from correcting your error by posting your diagram solution.

Some people are fairly cranky in the cycle of events.

Okay let's go over the divider. Or the regulator or the transformer.
Yes many designs exist. I learned the hard way like every experimenter
does that sometimes a voltage divider is just to temperamental so
those of us who have lived long enough are not automatically condemning
for trying it.

I have made dividers work great in a circuit and it's just one of those
ideas that may not work every time, come on guys, lighten up.

Coils throw off the already balanced impedance that may have taken
great effort to tune, granted transformers can still be used like
resistors storing energy and damning up the stream or in step down
operation some will add a couple of loops to extract current off the
main winding.

I like the regulators myself but to each his own, but I tried them all.
Others may try them all and we shouldn't beat one another senselessly
when a man is working out in the open and sharing. Sharing is a kindness
and yes it opens us all to attacks, attacks from others who feel it is
better done another way.

We need to work together and share, so if anyone has a simple
regulator circuit and doesn't pull "the Sis" routine that will be fine.

I'll be back with one in a minute.

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Transformers are used every day in radio transmitters all over the earth. They can easily be used up to gigahertz frequencies if designed properly. But a transformer for 60 hertz will quickly overheat at 400 hertz if loaded. The transformer has to be designed for the frequency. A bunch of resistors as a voltage divider is wasting most of the power in heating the resistors. A transformer allows you to use most of the power instead of wasting it.
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Here is one possible solution that not everyone will try but
get close a dozen other ways.

Enjoy!!

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Hi Clarence.,
thank you for sharing with us all your knowledge.
I read the first 34 page of this forum carefully and I finally believe that this project is feasible. I currently applies to build this project and keep you informed if you want.
Thank you again. God bless you all.
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Here it is again, for some reason the first copy got deleted so
I am posting this schematic again. This diagram is simple to
follow for anyone desiring to close the loop on a SEND/RECEIVE
coil system. So now I will leave you to your own devices

You will see Katcher meaning HV generator.

You will see a 24v supply on the far right for charging batteries.


If the main coil is off then no power is produced in the small coil set
and the regulator is off.

In this circuit he triggers this output MOSFET regulator FR307 with
the front HV generator circuit to be used to toggle the transistor base
at whatever adjustment on the resistor as a what is part of a
"FEEDBACK LOOP". Or you could use a 555 timer circuit to control
the 460 base.

A "FEEDBACK LOOP" is used to follow the main circuit, it's really
not the normal expression of a "FEEDBACK LOOP" but some may
loop at it like one because the number of turns.

In any case this is set up to FEEDBACK some power in the LOOPING.

We are Looping Back or Feeding Back some of the power being
circulated. For instance transformer coil L5 (if you choose to add it)
might draw the main transformer coil right down to nothing if it
were connected straight to the battery. However it is connected
to a 460 mosfet giving you the frequency or current needed.





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Your real problem is having such an ego problem you won't listen to those that have tried to help you. If you would use a transformer all those problems would be gone. You could probably even use an automotive ignition coil as a step down transformer. Or winding an air core transformer is not that hard either. It is a shame you'll listen to a person who knows nothing instead of those that have some real experience with these things.
Hi Sis,

I offered some nice polite help back in post #983 and Mr. Clarence ripped me a new one. Looks like those twelve $14 10MΩ resistors didn't work out. Go figure. But I'm sure Mr. Clarence would tell me it is his damn money and butt out. So then we see BM begging you for a regulator circuit diagram. Ain't that something?

How about this? He has 122VAC at some kilohertz. Wants to charge a 12V battery. Guess he didn't like my idea of an old battery charger because the transformer would overheat. How about a new switch mode battery charger? You can feed those DC. So rectify and filter the 122VAC and put that into a 120/240VAC switch mode 12V, 5A battery charger. Regulation solved and cost is less than those MΩ resistors.

What do ya think Sis? They probably won't like that idea either. WTH, back to the sidelines.

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Well yes and no. Like say we took a PC power supply and feed
the second stage directly with 120ac stepped up to 170vdc
like it works already okay?

You forgot about the spikes eating that switch mode device up.

The PC supple will use a TL594 in the olden days or an SG3524?
Something like that and the supply is no designed to take that
but could be modified.

Same with all of the junk that's out here for plugging into
nice quiet warm ac power burning circuits.

Show a well thought out circuit. Nevermind, leave it to the boss
Clarence will do them all til he finds the best one for his setup.
A simple divider would have been a quick easy but ya can't have
everything.

The thing i like about regulators is they follow the musical noise
around the circuit and are not so temperamental. I have been
thinking somebody has a simple build on ebay but I haven't checked
yet, however the ZVS came from there I believe. Simple is better
because microprocessors will need shielding plus that is not what we
want here for the average Joe to be stuck with failed digital circuits
he can't repair when they pop.

Where is your design? Speculation? better let the boss take care of it.
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