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Old 04-07-2015, 08:41 PM
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Here is the same circuit I am looking at showing you one possible
connection path for the relay. As you adjust the pot (Variable resistor)
you can set the maximum voltage ceiling for the out going.

In this case a 50v SCR is used for controlling 12vdc.

If you were controlling two 12vdc batteries in series equaling 24vdc
the scr rating might need to be a 100 volt device and so on.

In this drawing the relay stops the incoming power from reaching the
other side. However in the case of an oscillator we can not do it that way.

We must stop the oscillator itself.

Last night I tested the max voltage my SSSG circuit could produce
using a 400v cap rated at 1500uF and all I had to do to light the neon
was tap the connection to turn it on.

Instantly a voltage of 70 volts plus is reached with a single tap.

One second of uncontrolled circuit operation is long enough to put
my oscillator in the dump. In 3 seconds I stopped at over 200 volts.

At 200vdc the voltage increase drops back or slows dramatically
due to the device parameters (MJL4281A)

So in doing this test I am learning.

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Old 04-13-2015, 06:08 AM
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New update on mini Bedini Oscillator with mini cap
dump to charge controller board. Coil platform is
placed a good distance away from all iron such
as the tin box or any screws. The heat sinks are
1"-2" away from the copper coil and they
are made of Aluminum.

This new coil goes to 200 volts very quickly and
I guess that is because the 6 litzed strands of
21awg going to a single device, increases wire
surface area.

Fencers use this method.

I go to 200 volts in 3-5 seconds even with a very
small input of 12vdc @ 500ma.

The Oscillator section is not shown, these devices
are for the discharging circuit.

More to come. One step at a time.











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Hi all, Hi mike, do you or anyone have the cap dump circuit bedini is using in that video, thanks.
peace love light

I am progressing in building control circuits for my Sg Oscillator circuits.
This is a voltage control circuit. Hi,Med,Low and OFF for
OVER VOLTAGE PROTECTION.

You need never fry your Oscillator boost circuits again when battery
anomalies or connection problems arise.

Enjoy the adventure and most of all share it.

Mikey




Here I use a "CROWBAR" circuit to trigger a relay but this same circuit
might be used to trigger the base of a transistor whenever the set
voltage is reached.

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Old 04-29-2015, 03:20 PM
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Hello

I think there is no need for diode 6A10 in trigger circuit, it just drops voltage and heats,
Maybe a capacitor instead, and a capacitor 1-10-100nF and resistor 1-10-40k
in parallel with 1N4001. For such exercise scope would be almost a must.
Just opinion, no experience in that circuit.

Better not listen to me. Keep it simple.

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Hello

I think there is no need for diode 6A10 in trigger circuit, it just drops voltage and heats,
Maybe a capacitor instead, and a capacitor 1-10-100nF and resistor 1-10-40k
in parallel with 1N4001. For such exercise scope would be almost a must.
Just opinion, no experience in that circuit.

Better not listen to me. Keep it simple.

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Thanks I can try it and if it works better, we will see. Positive triggering
at the base is an age old practice starting back in the 1920's with the crystal radio's.

There is no heating there but I had that big diode and stuck it in there, a 1N4007 would work too. Yes you are right about a tank circuit. The tank is there just further up in the diagram.

On another note about the positive triggering diode and the tank in the triggering circuit of this SSSG Oscillator, I use a temp probe all of the time during testing and a scope or am radio to see and listen to the oscillations.

The only time it becomes needed to have that cap shown in my circuit is when I go to GENMODE or if I reduce the power input so far down that
the oscillator wants to stall.

It should also be noted that this circuit can run power at levels like 40 volt input at 3 amps. Now I am running 14.5v input at 2.5 amps with no heating or oscillation faltering in all modes of operation.

The coil is 6 power strands of 21awg all connected together 75 feet long of Litzed wire like Bedini winds them up. Only John uses 130feet or 100 feet.

The trigger wire is 75 feet also of 25awg wire.

The single transistor can handle all 6 strands all connected to it at the collector without any heating, running 20-90 watts.

Thanks for the shout.

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Here I have connect the voltage control circuit directly to the Oscillator's
power source. This will shut down the SSSG oscillator completely at which time the LED lights up. Any color LED to let you know the charge cycle has finished.

And once these SCR devices have been engaged the only way to get it to work again is to hit the momentary reset button.


Also always remember that when using GENMODE that the source battery voltage can not be higher than the charging battery set. This is why John Bedini is able to charge both the run and the charge batteries at the same time.

If the run battery is slightly higher than the charge battery the energy will run down hill and equalize. However it is really fun to see a 12v battery charge a 12 volt battery in GENMODE because once the run battery drops alitle and the charge battery goes up a little they will climb together in voltage if tuning is done right.

GENMODE is a form of pulsating current.

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Here is my last control board circuit. No atmega's, no C code ++, no high tech
super fast boards, no ardu's, just 9th grade level electronics for practical, indestructible circuit operation that is easy to build.

Everybody wants it computerized except me.

Very effective. Industrial grade.

The charging levels for this layout are 600ma, 1200ma and 2400ma with
circuit shutdown at 15.2v.

That oscillator works with 60v input, 40v input, 28v input, 15v,12v,9v,5v

Input up to 3amps for all voltages.

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Scr bt151-500r

This is circuit 2 ( Voltage Shutdown) and I have changed the SCR out to a non-sensitive gate type. The sensitive gate SCR that you can build with
is CR3CM and can be found on EBAY. For those who do not want to use a sensitive gate type SCR I have also used a BT151-500R (SCR)

The resistance values have changed and are all part of the change.

This part (SCR BT151-500R) is a 3 amp SCR and is more than enough
to get the job done, kicking the relay.

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Thanks for the circuits and others info.I've planning to build one Solid state Bedini style
oscillator charger. Any info is welcome.
I didn't want to disrespect your work in my previous post, sorry if I did that in any way.

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Thanks for the circuits and others info.I've planning to build one Solid state Bedini style
oscillator charger. Any info is welcome.
I didn't want to disrespect your work in my previous post, sorry if I did that in any way.

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No I didn't take it that way, enjoy the circuits, I do.
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I updated the diagram again for those who will be connecting
the circuit up to their Cap Dump. The powerful pulsing action
setup by a cap dump will tent to set off the shutdown circuit
prematurely. notice the simple addition of 2 caps and one
resistor inside the circle. This stops the problem of inaccurate
readings by the circuit. The first cap passes the energy through
the 39 bleed resistor to produce a 2 second delay to ensure
that battery voltage is truly reached before shutdown. Also
effecting power level changes in your circuit if you are going from
a 2 amp input to a 1amp input based on battery levels.

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Control Board updates

As you can see I am building circuits and hardware parts
from scratch such as the transformer. Cap Bank, multi power
voltages , snap switch over loads, cooling fans and heat sinks.

And for now I am doing circuit controls. So far I have only
built and shown circuits that operate without a capacitor
discharge bank and charging a 12volt battery up to 15.2volts
directly off the the SSSG oscillator.

Next I will move up to the 2 battery systems running a 24volt
charge off the SSSG up to 31volts.

After that the the changes for the addition of a capacitor discharge bank,
complete with simplified reverse voltage protection mosfets.

However before all of this I have built a high voltage shutdown tonight
for the Oscillator section.

Some of you might be wondering why am I jumping the gun
and building the circuit to charge caps with now?

The reason is because even though the SSSG may only be used
to direct charge a battery and this keeps the voltage far below
oscillator maximums, we must remember that battery plates
can break. If battery plates break the battery will still absorb
energy but at elevated voltages.

Sometime those voltages can reach over 100 volts. This is unsafe.

This crowbar control is tuned to give the relay 12-14 volts when
a 73volt over voltage is reached so the SSSG oscillator losses
power when the relay goes. I will update this one soon as it is
not complete.

No more toasty components.

Remember the beauty of this thread is that I am taking the
time to give you actual values for use with a specific device,
namely the Bedini Oscillator.

I realize 1000's of you have already employed these circuits
as standard procedure and may have better ways of doing this.

Yet when you look around the web, nothing compete is available.

Yeah, nothing available worldwide that is actual, complete working
circuits for the safety we all need using the SSSG and SSG.

Doesn't anybody find that strange? It is probably because no one
wants to take the time or figures it's every man for himself that
are schooled in the art.

In the early 70's as a 8th and 9th grader we built all of
these circuits and much more. We had complete TV sets strung out over the entire
length of the class room stretching some 40 feet shop counter top.

Complete Television sets built long hand using a slide rule without a single
555 time chip or any other chip for that matter.

Radio's with great big tubes.

I call it fun stuff, you just sit down, put yer thinkin cap on and
apply yourself, anybody can do that.





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battery charging

@ Bro Mikey, refreshing to see somebody designing simple easy and reliable circuits such as yourself... old school stuff. Compared with conventional charging methods how do you compare these oscillator pulse circuits from your own experience for sealed lead acid batteries. I have just been given 2 x 6volt 100AH sealed and will use them in series for a 12 volt system with 230v inverter.
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@ Bro Mikey, refreshing to see somebody designing simple easy and reliable circuits such as yourself... old school stuff. Compared with conventional charging methods how do you compare these oscillator pulse circuits from your own experience for sealed lead acid batteries. I have just been given 2 x 6volt 100AH sealed and will use them in series for a 12 volt system with 230v inverter.

Thanks for the pat on the back, I love simple.. Well the best way to start is to feel your battery. If it is warm or medium warm
this is normal for conventional chargers. I would say that way my batteries
go up to about 13.9v - 14.2v and will got no higher on fast charge.

This battery is boiling and friction from heat is our enemy. If I stop and check the battery in 1hr, it will read 12.5v.

Mine sit at 13.3v and the difference from 12.5 up to 13.3 is 25 percent
more. Also your battery burns out the fluid in days, mine last all years without refilling.

Your plate will crust over with big hard crystals called sulfates, swell and crack the plates, because you did not,could not complete the charging
cycle by conventional means.

I can charge my clear acrylic cells that are 100lbs and watch them boil
up to a full voltage of 16v with zero heat. Stone cold.

My batteries are being charged with great care so I don't have to throw
them in the trash in a couple of years and suffer the AH loss from day
to day as the battery disintegrates internally from the forced fed friction.

Destructive Charging as I call it.Boil the battery, fry it, take it out and
smash it on the wall because I spent another pile of money for
a boat anchor.

The last time I charged a brand new set of scooter batteries using
conventional chargers they had goten low on fluid after 30 days
and when i got back to check them all 3 batteries (36v pack) were fused
together. Completely melted cases to each other.

I did every thing right and nothing worked so I gave up for 2 years on batteries. Then I heard about John Bedini

The rest is history.

Pulse circuits are the best. GenMode is warm current pulses.

SSG mode or spike mode is high voltage pulses/spikes that clean
and condition.

Capacitor discharging can be added for the best charging in the world.

You can shoot a battery with intermittent high energy discharges fast
charging the battery with no heat on a tiny input. A tiny input, less than half
of normal input levels call for.



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Here I have added a reed relay also know as an impulse relay,
to control the larger relay. This circuit shuts off the power
and when my power levels reach 500 watts I am going to
need it.

This is the update and all diagrams have been updated.

Also it is good to remember that this circuit is powered
directly off the source. As I begin to increase power
levels and voltages this circuit will run 15v to the relays
off the control voltage source that operates the 555
timer.

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Nice circuit Bro Mickey
Just want to know what is the crow bar circuit function.....???

My target is to use less solar panel in my house and apply ur circuit with sssg

so i m following ur design development ....... thanks
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4 Crowbars.

Crowbar1=12.8v

Crowbar2=13.5v

Crowbar3=15v

Crowbar4=73v safety shutdown

Hey Totoalas

Crowbar is the same for all (ALMOST)

Crowbar is voltage control the way you like it.

When batteries are properly charged input power levels
are turned down at different voltages.

For instance if I run my inverter hard for 2 days and my battery
is 12v, I have a dead battery. The inverter pulled my battery down
to 10.5v and now it is very low.

The sitting voltage with no load connected is 12v, empty battery.

Now I must charge the battery hardest up to 12.5-12.8v.
This means that my charger is working on high and is putting
max into the battery.

Let's say your SSSG can deliver 800 watts max but you only run 500watts.
So 500 watts is going to the battery to charge it back up again.
This is "high"

When Crowbar1 reaches 12.8v the circuit drops a resistor.

So now your SSSG is running on "medium". Maybe only 400 watts. Now less power in going to the battery. Soon the battery will go from 12.8--to--13.5v
and crowbar 2 will drop another resistor out of the trigger of the SSSG.

Now your energizer is in "low" from 13.5--to--15v full.

So we have "HIGH", "MEDIUM" and "LOW"

In low the SSSG is only 300 watts or whatever you want it to be.
Now you have 3 crowbar controls to charge your batteries with
so you don't hurt your battery.


NUMBER 4 CROWBAR never works, it is there only if
the battery is broken or disconnected. You don't use crowbar 4 it is
for emergencies.

Crowbar4= 73 volt shutdown of SSSG energizer. In case a battery plate
gets broken and the voltage rises to high. Also if your cap dump
stops and the caps keep filling up past 50 to 60v the crowbar4 shuts off
the power so you do not hurt your cap dump circuit too.

Whatever energy project we choose, the battery must be charged and this is the best way to charge a battery.

Good to see you.

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thanks Mickey

great stuff .... thats the future of SSSG and ure right dont know of somebody except Patrick working on this development

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thanks Mickey

great stuff .... thats the future of SSSG and ure right dont know of somebody except Patrick working on this development

totoalas

Okay thanks 4 the heads up on PK. I didn't see Patrick's stuff yet. Maybe I'll
have a look. Glad to see somebody wants the safety controls besides me.

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It is important to have an automatic shutdown circuit so I have
been looking at a few different ways of doing that.

The simple way is the LATCHING RELAY. It needs
a start button and the Crowbar could be the stop.

I will show this in the next drawing in the days ahead.

I will use this in the same circuit I have.


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In this diagram I have used a latching relay.
This latching relay with momentary reset
button solves the issues of using both GenMode
or Spike mode and still have a limit control.

This also lets experimenters use common
relays without having to special order.

Follow the 6 pin connection pathways and I
think you will find that this one is best. I
still need to add the LED indicator lights.

Will update soon. This is my favorite ski-matic.

As a for instance my 7 year old and my 11
year old will be plugging this Energizer
charger into their scooters and if they do not
properly push the plug in all of the way, when
they hit the reset button the charge will stop
instantly.

Or lets say the 7 year old runs up and rips
the cord out of her scooter of course being
in a hurry to catch one of her favorite friends,
then the unit still shuts off.

For scooters I intend to only use Gen-Mode most
of the time with only periodic Spike-Mode
conditioning, no cap dump.

I have used GenMode for a couple of years now
and the scooter batteries do well. Cold boiling
to 31vdc is the way to go.

Well I forgot to remind everyone that all of my
scooter batteries are converted daily to ALUM.
I wouldn't give you a nickel for a gallon of ACID

My limit will be set at 31volts for shutdown and
2 other power level changes for cutting back
current as the charge cycle nears its end.

This diagram looks at the cycle end voltage of
31volts in the case of filling a 24volt battery pack
or it could be used as a 73volt limit for a capacitor
discharge bank. This way cap dump mosfets are
protected from over voltage as well as possible
damage to the caps.

This is a fail safe function making it impossible to
fail unless you hooked up something backwards.

We will get to the reverse voltage protection as
needed. In the case of the tiny scooter energizer
I plan to use a one way plug system as is normally
the right way.

On the other hand for one of my desktop models
with gator clamps I will want the reverse protection.

This is my gift to you who want protection like I do
and control as is used in industrial units. For those
who do not have time to design circuits like this
and might not be sure how to start.

Super computers have there place and this is not
one of them.

Scooter chargers sit out in the pouring rain

Enjoy.


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How does this crowbar circuit works ? Is it working due to thyristor current reaching 2mA level and opening thyristor ?
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How does this crowbar circuit works ? Is it working due to thyristor current reaching 2mA level and opening thyristor ?
I think that is what the data sheet says, the important thing is that it opens
wherever I set the voltage on the meter, so in this case 31v is what I want.

I tested this dozens of times and the circuit operates the same every time.

When I read the Data Sheet it is like most all SCR's stating a minimum voltage and a minimum ma range. Then this is based on the gate resistance.

For instance for sensitive gate SCR's we need 320,000 ohms of resistance
to do the same job opening at the said voltage as the general purpose type that only need 25k.

So it looks like the sensitive gate needs approx 10X more resistance in the gates than the non-sensitive gate. Both work the same, no problem.

All transistors and other semiconductor junctions work at their specified
voltages and ma ranges.

Do you have a question about one of your parts? Or perhaps you
have a circuit to show us?

Look at the gate resistor and vary it to make it adjustable. Say you wanted
18volts then you would decrease the gate resistance so it opened before 31volts.

The cool thing about the SCR is that once it is latched it stays latched until
the gate voltage drops to under 500 mili-volts. You have to cut the power to reset. Mosfets and transistors do not display this characteristic that I am
aware of without special designs.

This crowbar consists of a single SCR and a single gate resistor.

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Here is a typical understanding of an SCR




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItSwgq3M0Eo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGgamlfaVxI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmscJdu0oW4


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Here is a scooter diagram. In the picture you can see a direct
connection from the batteries to the power module. I would have
liked to pulse my scooter batteries but I dare not for fear of
ruining the electronics as power surges destroy components.

I have heard of people pulsing at 2volts above battery voltages
to keep damaging surges to a minimum. I think the best solution
is to have some sort of bus bar dummy link that can be pulled
during a surge charge.

If possible I would like to hear any ideas on this so I may also
speed pulse charge. The scooters are getting more attractive
with some of them running 36volt motors.

I'm just not sure how much pounding these systems can handle.

John B stopped pulsing altogether and uses a form of GenMode
splatter in an AB series shunt regulator amplifier energy right off
the crystalline junctions. No coil either.


I like pulsing batteries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fPCOeWWrrs









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I finished the build of this circuit today and there was one error
that I have corrected where the reset button went.

Other than that the circuit does work perfectly as compared
to diagram produced by a circuit generator, this one is tested.

I will post a video soon and some pictures. The control module
takes up a 2" X 2" space on a PC board and is only one of 3 or
4 such circuits adjusted at various settings on a single battery
charge controller.

This is my first built and tested 73 volt shutdown crowbar
with latching relay. Once the start button is hit to charge
your battery it immediately shuts off if the battery plates are
not absorbing the energy or if a battery charge terminal
has fallen off.

This 73volt figure is used because the energy will also be
going to a cap dump where caps will top out at 60-65v.

I am filling a 400volt 1500uf capacitor to 73 volts at which time
the circuit shuts down.

Sweet success.


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In this diagram I have used a latching relay.
This latching relay with momentary reset
button solves the issues of using both GenMode
or Spike mode and still have a limit control.

This also lets experimenters use common
relays without having to special order.

Follow the 6 pin connection pathways and I
think you will find that this one is best. I
still need to add the LED indicator lights.

Will update soon. This is my favorite ski-matic.

As a for instance my 7 year old and my 11
year old will be plugging this Energizer
charger into their scooters and if they do not
properly push the plug in all of the way, when
they hit the reset button the charge will stop
instantly.

Or lets say the 7 year old runs up and rips
the cord out of her scooter of course being
in a hurry to catch one of her favorite friends,
then the unit still shuts off.

For scooters I intend to only use Gen-Mode most
of the time with only periodic Spike-Mode
conditioning, no cap dump.

I have used GenMode for a couple of years now
and the scooter batteries do well. Cold boiling
to 31vdc is the way to go.

Well I forgot to remind everyone that all of my
scooter batteries are converted daily to ALUM.
I wouldn't give you a nickel for a gallon of ACID

My limit will be set at 31volts for shutdown and
2 other power level changes for cutting back
current as the charge cycle nears its end.

This diagram looks at the cycle end voltage of
31volts in the case of filling a 24volt battery pack
or it could be used as a 73volt limit for a capacitor
discharge bank. This way cap dump mosfets are
protected from over voltage as well as possible
damage to the caps.

This is a fail safe function making it impossible to
fail unless you hooked up something backwards.

We will get to the reverse voltage protection as
needed. In the case of the tiny scooter energizer
I plan to use a one way plug system as is normally
the right way.

On the other hand for one of my desktop models
with gator clamps I will want the reverse protection.

This is my gift to you who want protection like I do
and control as is used in industrial units. For those
who do not have time to design circuits like this
and might not be sure how to start.

Super computers have there place and this is not
one of them.

Scooter chargers sit out in the pouring rain

Enjoy.


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Battery charging techniques

I've been experimenting with various charging circuits on and off for some time, have used 555 timers as the drive oscillator and also SSG designs. I came across big meaty ferrite inductors from industrial heavy duty charges, wound on a single layer of insulated stranded hook up wire for feed back self oscillating. Had several NPN TV scan output transistors BU208 / 508 from my TV repair days years ago so used them to provide output pulses. I also found 4x15000uf 30v caps from my collection of junk, wired these in parallel and wired in a resistor network to tap off a charge reference voltage. These caps charge quite quickly up to 30v at which point I turn off the oscillator fire the gate of a hefty thyristor to dump my cap bank into 12volt lead acid batteries. The anode of the thyristor is then grounded to prevent latching before turning the oscillator back on to refill the caps. This cycle repeats approx every 3 seconds pumping a high energy current pulse into the battery. I use a micro controller to control these functions... otherwise can become complicated.
Have used this same circuit without the cap bank for charging my nicad drill batteries, charges these quite quick.
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I've been experimenting with various charging circuits on and off for some time, have used 555 timers as the drive oscillator and also SSG designs. I came across big meaty ferrite inductors from industrial heavy duty charges, wound on a single layer of insulated stranded hook up wire for feed back self oscillating. Had several NPN TV scan output transistors BU208 / 508 from my TV repair days years ago so used them to provide output pulses. I also found 4x15000uf 30v caps from my collection of junk, wired these in parallel and wired in a resistor network to tap off a charge reference voltage. These caps charge quite quickly up to 30v at which point I turn off the oscillator fire the gate of a hefty thyristor to dump my cap bank into 12volt lead acid batteries. The anode of the thyristor is then grounded to prevent latching before turning the oscillator back on to refill the caps. This cycle repeats approx every 3 seconds pumping a high energy current pulse into the battery. I use a micro controller to control these functions... otherwise can become complicated.
Have used this same circuit without the cap bank for charging my nicad drill batteries, charges these quite quick.

Absolutely Dupe

Many coils produce radiant spikes and work however use the common grounding for long term charging so you do not damage the plates.

Batteries want current pulses unless they are in bad need of desulfation.

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Hello Guy's and Gal's

Those of you who want a practical application for your run away Bedini
SSSg oscillators. Flying magnets are bad enough but run away voltage
will do your machine in just as quick.

Here is my short VIDEO showing how it works. A few Picture too


https://youtu.be/QNa9H2bou0U











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Understanding free energy SSG Bedini motors and much much more
for self run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcfK0hfMKQI


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