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regards Thank you for your contributions, you could put the link of the video again, to be able to observe your project Thank you
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Thank you for your contributions, you could put the link of the video again, to be able to observe your project Thank you
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HV energy multiplication
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regards BroMikey
"Gerard is now working on another motor generator combination that has been much harder to complete. In this instance the setup needs more than just a simple motor coupled up to a simple motor acting as a generator. It requires expensive controllers and I say controllers plural because everyone is struggling to find the best way. Pulse DC or a modified sinewave or a pure sinwave? And then most of what I can find is running at 12vdc to 36vdc that is inexpensive. Like we see on electric E-bikes and scooters. Some as high as several hundred dollars. I know, I work on these washing machine motors for a living and you can't find an easy circuit to power these pancake motors at the 120 volt AC input rating that they are designed for. "very well there are really many comments and proposals. of all the projects it has not been easy to achieve without being able to work them and experience them." comments The projects of Gerard Morin, have raised a lot of attention, as it is commented in occasions presents advances, then it jumps to another thing, in short, it has us in expectation. for the 36 poles engine has been shown different controllers, but none has reached 3600 rpm, if I mistake correigame and show the video, I have seen many replicas of that project with other experimenters and the maximum speed that have become 2000 rpm. using somewhat expensive drivers. The bicycle controllers are low cost and low voltage and I have tested them on the 36 poles motor giving few rpm, missing more voltage. 1. In the network they presented a project on how to make a controller with arduino http://www.free-energy-info.com/BuieMorin.pdf where they give the data of the components and the program of arduino, there propose to feed the motor with 400 volts, when reviewing this project is the same as another one in the network for a brusless motor of 12 volts, the only thing that changes is the watts (5w) of the resistors of the motor sensors, but the value is the same 10k and 33k, here a doubt when feeding the motor with more voltage higher will be the voltage in the divider can burn the arduino, I wonder someone has already fact, I think I put hall field sensors. 2. - Another thing is that you can improve the magnetization of the engine to change the original magnet for the neodymium would have more torque and more speed, Mr. Gerard Morin has commented on one of his videos but it seems that It is very important, the conditions of the components can be improved. 3.- Some of the replica projects of the experimenters have been wound with another wire gauge tending some changes in the results. 4.- In the original project of Mr. Gerard Morin of the motor generator, it has an engine and generated with the same 36-pole motor, gives an example of use and recognizes that the 36-pole motor itself is not a generator, and that is the case. 5.- continues with the project with the realization of a generator inside the shell where the 36 poles motor is located, the generator is one of the standard, that is, one that works normally where the law of lenz is present, the motor It should have enough torque to give the voltage and amperage proposed. 6.- Proposal, because the motor does not better 36 poles, it is coupled to a generator with anti-lenz batteries, there are already several prototypes in the network of this type of generator, thus with this motor-generator combination without magnetic restriction. 7.- My appreciation for the work of Mr. Gerard Morin, for all his dedication to propose new forms of energy generation, all the comments exposed is to have a constructive dialogue, and invite to have proposals for the improvement of the designs of the prototypes. regards
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This is how easy and cheap it is. Two days waiting for the mail to run.
Using a 115vac input 1 ph and oil filled caps rating 230vac and you will have to adjust or add capacitance (parallel) to balance all 3 legs. Using an amp clamp add capacitors at the 3rd leg till each of the 3 wires has the same amount of current flowing (within reason) or close. I do it all the time with 3 phase motors Buy the 2nd link for $169 and it is already 3 phase, no cap needed. https://www.automationdirect.com/adc...SABEgKnpPD_BwE https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fuji-FRN000...QAAOSwA0JcfqxY ![]()
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Last edited by BroMikey; 04-20-2019 at 09:36 AM. |
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BroMikey thanks for your kind response
some questions. how many revolutions have you achieved what you observe has already been tested with this controller in the network only one video user reached 2000 rpm Gerard Morin has tested with the Anheim controller BSCKB1-120081 reaching 1600 rmp, all those contoladores are fine, they are expensive, but if one wants to experiment he has to buy them. the Fuji FRN0003C2S-6U comment that you have to put a capacitor or capacitor in the third line until you get equal currents in the lines, ok. what shows the motor 42 poles and delta connection so, you can use any of the star or delta configurations as desired thanks for your contributions
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Those motors have a huge radius rotor so 2000rpm's may present
as much stress as a standard motor running at 6000rpm's. Better watch out, these big flat motors are plastic and 24 or 36 pole motors are designed for low low low rpm's. LOW. You start pushing these motors up past the design limit, double and triple you are taking your life in your own hands. If you can find a steel drum that is not a flexible tin pan you might run it up to several thousand rpm's safely for a few minutes. The metal hub paykel sells is for a few hundred rpm's if I remember around 300-600max for their clothes washer. Even standard motors with a 1.5" radius on the rotor rated for 1750rpm dare not to be driven up much past that range for very long periods. If you run a 1750rpm motor at 3000rpm's it will vibrate and fly into pieces before long. this is not so bad with a totally enclosed motor where nothing is going to hit you when it explodes. The Fischer/Paykel motors are not enclosed they have one end open You may drive a motor like these at 155vdc at pulse using 2 amps or so, this is how they are made. If you use a variable frequency drive better known as a VFD you can take a cheap drive unit off the shelf pushing the voltages and duty cycle and frequency way above the limits. I hope no one ends up dead. With the right drive you could go to 4000rpm's but I don't think you would live thru it. I saw a large factory using these motors as a power source to supply current to their equipment. The rotor diameter was around 3.5feet and the steel hub had been turned by a huge lathe and looked to be 1/2" thick. They were not using extreme speeds. These motors are high torque delivery units. Using neo magnets with require that you replace the stator core material with ceramic iron dust and change the coil configuration which may need double the size due to saturation problems. Or increasing the gap could bring you back to the ferrite range again defeating it's purpose.
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If this is the case, if you want to revolutionize them, you have to change the plastic of the rotor and stator by metal, this is what Gerard Morin sells,
and if more speed has problems and can be very risky, with 1500 rpm at 2000 rpm you can already move some generators that many do in the network What was understood from Gerard's video is that he proposes or proposed 3600 rpm to move a conventional generator, and that he was waiting for the manufacture or find a controller that would achieve this speed, but it seems that he already realized that neither electrically and mechanically it is possible, as in this case, as BroMikey mentions about the characteristics of engines and their speed. if the controller with the motor consumes some 2 amps. at a voltage of 220 volts, 440 watts of consumption, because you can put a wind turbine of 1500 watts or any other that works at 600 or 1000 rpm, easy moves it and you already have profit. well somehow you have to take advantage of what you have of this engine. I'll see which generator I attach Thanks BroMikey for the recommendations
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Last edited by alexelectric; 04-21-2019 at 02:00 AM. |
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Hello BroMikey
You recommended these controllers https://www.automationdirect.com/adc...SABEgKnpPD_BwE https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fuji-FRN000...QAAOSwA0JcfqxY ok, I already reviewed them I have seen this too DELIXI CDI-EM60G2R2S2B 2.2kw 220V AC Drive VFD with Brake Unit https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...748670415.html I would like to know your valuation of this one that I am showing, it is more economical and more powerful can you please give a revised and give me your opinion please.
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Last edited by BroMikey; 04-21-2019 at 10:29 PM. |
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Here are the power readings.
220v and .5amp and he is over 1000 rpm's USING A METAL HUB and A METAL DRUM and a METAL bearing housing hot off the machine shop. If you ran your washing machine at 1000 rpm's to spin clothes out it would explode and go thru the wall. Well the old ones couldn't do it maybe the new one can that are direct drive. So let's just say 1100 for the new ones is pushing the envelop and at 220v you might go higher to say 1500rpm's. Tell Gerard they make 460v units but be ready to die from flying debris
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Last edited by BroMikey; 04-22-2019 at 03:31 AM. |
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I looked closely at the Buie-Morin PDF and he states that he is using
400v at 700 watts geared down to a PMG output 10,000 watts. Of course his controller pulses 4 nano seconds. All parts plastic were replaced with mild steel. He is running 3000 plus RPM's (guessing) then pulleys down? to PMG looks like 3:1 ratio (guessing) Awesome. ![]()
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I looked closely at the Buie-Morin PDF and he states that he is using
400v at 700 watts geared down to a PMG output 10,000 watts. Of course his controller pulses 4 nano seconds. All parts plastic were replaced with mild steel. He is running 3000 plus RPM's (guessing) then pulleys down? to PMG looks like 3:1 ratio (guessing) The information of the pdf document where they detail this project, the first pdf was wrong, in the feedback of the position of the engine, in the voltage divider resistors, this detail, I wrote it in different forums, because it is not corrected I would burn the arduino, it was corrected by changing the values of the resistors one of greater value, in the last pdf they showed the correction, in addition to the incorporation of a protective diode. What they present in the document is in draft is to say what is experiencing Thomas Buie, there is a video where they show their actual operation, but it is good that you are working on it, like the video you present here BroMikey. In the video Thomas Buie details the challenges and advances he has with the program and his intention to achieve what is shown in the document, he really sees a guy very dedicated to the work, he also says that he needs resources and asks for support and donations from money, if really for these projects it takes time, dedication and efforts, and resources. we will follow the advances and contributions see you soon
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Very clear and respectful I agree with the above, if you have something different from what is known about electricity and electronics, it must be demonstrated. with all due respect, for Gerard Morin
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Level is a skeptic, rhymes with septic ![]() he did was pose as a possible replicator and at every turn demeaned or criticized poor Gerard's work. Many others called me everything except a white boy ![]() like a trooper is hard to swallow. Now that Buie has shown it to be a working and practical device everyone will want one. Thx 4 the update, i noticed this before also about PDF's often being incomplete or semi-accurate. No more do I think that.
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the important thing is to share, to exchange different points of view, all respectfully, in this way it grows more, I can not believe everything, or deny everything, the constructive debate helps us to understand things better, I respect the work of Gerard, it is interesting, but also it is necessary to indicate where one does not agree respectfully, and to indicate the reason why I am really very interested in the 36 poles engine project. Here is a man in the network who has tried different controllers to achieve more speed, https://youtu.be/rrvU4nL2jMM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrvU4nL2jMM very interesting, thanks BroMikey for your orientations and guides
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Anybody know the latest on Gerard?
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