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Most of life we are in a standby mode, so thought I'd do a quick video of what we can bring to the table. Nothing unexpected shown, the display on the right in showing Voltage, Current, and Power going into the transformers and the display on the left is showing Voltage, current, and Power going into the load.

Gerard Morin replication 5kw to 10kw transformer test

We have a variety of pole transformers sizes on hand and more sophisticated data logging equipment, but this is a quick showing that we can answer the question "does this work" all we need is a MITE - E - LITE McCulloch genset.

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Hello Hitby

You really are a man of means. Looking at your giant Variac and all those skills really is going to make this easier than I thought.

I wish I had the $500 needed to send you this generator. You are a great guy for taking up this task and are much appreciated.


I don't know where everybody went but I think Turion is having a time with his McCulloch getting it apart. When you have to break them down it is time for a rebuild.

Stay tuned and we shall see

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i can't seem to understand what, he's talking, about. he made a new video. its on his youtbue channel. a q & a. so, and i seen the guy who posted the video with the 2 pig poles. what ? could someone explain what your talking about to me?

is, it a less waste kind of power?

like if i get, 30mpg on my v4 1.8 cylinder toyota. and know how much heat the 1 gallon of gas can make. if burned and collected all this heat.

and they say cars, run at around 20-50percent efficiency on the gas. i've heard.

which means, that a motor can run at 100% efficeincy, it can be made, but a car, and the way it is made to produce the horepower, to push big heavy cars, the thing the motors in, down the road. are made, manufactured to get power, to push heavy things, and they waste 70% of the heat the gas can produce by being burned. cuase the heat could be used in a real good insulated like, box, and used to keep you warm. so thats like a 99% effective engine, the box is lets call it, the motor. 1% wasted on starting the fire, maybe some small machine to remove fumes and with. around 95% effiecient. You know I dont know.

so, what are the pole pigs, showing? just tell it to me technically, the numbers, maybe give me a refresher course on electric here. i dont get it.

and whats the generator supposed to be doing?

ive seen the new morin vid at least oh, 5 minutes and the pole pig vid, linked here, and whats the deal with the pole pigs, 2 of them?
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Hey Hitby

here are a few pictures of this latest, really sweet looker. The guy has the cover off and it looks brand new.


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Here is a $200 McCulloch just North of washington in Canada. However when we localize a genset it would be best to know where to ship. Hitby will need to contact me privately so I can figure out what side of the country he is on to keep shipping cost down to a minimum.

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Gerard Morin : Q&A Interview and update

BroMikey,

Thanks for keeping the team aware of all the good McCulloch Generators out on the used market, we still want one to do testing with, but if you watch Gerard's latest video 1+Hour from 2 days ago, it looks like he is now into washing machine motors . . .

I think we should test the ideas he has already presented before we move forward.

Gerard is very open and wants this tech. to move forward, don't just accept what you have been told, investigate things for yourself is his stance.

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Hello Hitby13kw

I am still looking and planning to get you this genset, hang in there we will find you one. Now i know what state you are in. I called around on one today but couldn't get the guy on the phone.

I see you found your private message box.

Yes we need to run our own tests to be sure which way is best.

Gerard has a bunch of energy projects that look like a science fair toy

I like the "GO BIG or GO HOME" pole pig test the best.

Check out how this one runs.


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watch Gerard's latest video 1+Hour from 2 days ago, it looks like he is now into washing machine motors . . .



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The most important thing here is that Gerard has done away with gasoline and is using an electric motor to move the Bi-Polar generator. Gerard could send the energy produced from his magneto generator to any number of windings.

Pole Pigs or send it to induction motor windings.

Maybe it would be better to build this magneto generator without the need for gasoline so looping would be easy.

We might find a junker MITE-E-LITE pretty cheap and you could remount the unit on an electric motor? How good are you with doing stuff like that? Could you do something like that? Or would you need some help?

Looks like you need a way to put the rotor on a set of bearings

I will need to look at the break down diagrams first.

Looping could be done much easier using a 110v electric motor.

Good video, I just sat down to watch it at 2 oc AM. Thanks for pointing me in this direction.

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about your guys pole pig test. what are you doing different, than morin does in his test? and, what are you showing? i dont get it

see im interested in, both. the generator part and the whats the deal, what are you doing whats going on, with the pig poles part there? whats your video showing? cause its got no bi-filar or is that a similiarity of a brushless motor? the mcculloch?
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about your guys pole pig test. what are you doing different, than morin does in his test? and, what are you showing? i dont get it

see im interested in, both. the generator part and the whats the deal, what are you doing whats going on, with the pig poles part there? whats your video showing? cause its got no bi-filar or is that a similiarity of a brushless motor? the mcculloch?
Did you see Gerards pole pig video? Yes we are missing the generator.
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I am talking to a man upstate. he is going to get me a price on shipping. Is a 1200 watt winding and rotor enough?

Maybe he could keep the motor. I asked him he said maybe. This would lower shipping without the briggs.

I will tell the group exactly what is needed when I know something for sure.

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The rotor and winding is all I need - - - - & this lamp Thats all . .

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I am talking to a man upstate. he is going to get me a price on shipping. Is a 1200 watt winding and rotor enough?

Maybe he could keep the motor. I asked him is said maybe. This would lower shipping without the briggs.

I will tell the group exactly what is needed when I know something for sure.

Mikey
BroMikey that sounds like all that we would need to test this concept, we would mount the rotor onto the shaft of a variable speed electric motor, then by changing the RPM we can track the input / output readings and find the proverbial "Sweet Spot" that any of these reactive devises tune in at.

As you have noted this will drastically reduce shipping cost to not have to pay for the dead weight of an old tired gas sucking Briggs engine we don't need anyway.

Thanks again for keeping the eyeball pealed

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Hi, I am interested in helping out by suplying some funds - If whatever group
intends to make their *results public*. I consider this a good idea because
one unit should be able to supply most of ones electrical needs...IF!
I don't think others should do too much until they find out whether OU
can be found in this configuration of equipment.

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First there is a difference between the pole pig transformer with a single big
high voltage insulator, the other wire is ground to the case of the transformer,
versus those with two insulators. Morin uses the 1wye transformer that have
the one big insulator. I believe the one with two big insulators are one phase
transformers of the 3 phase system, not what we want.

If the proposed experimental reproduction works, I would be willing to
purchase two brand new transformers with silicon based oil that could be
tested by substitution to guarantee someone could build an exact reproduction
version with current part numbers component...ie no surplus transformers.
Again that is if you make the basic Morin demonstration work.

Modern transformers are somewhat physcially smaller than older ones
because materials have gotten better. I was thinking that we may want
to go to 100KVar, 35KVar in a set of new transformers.


The McCulloch Mite-e-lite generator, surplus electronics is a problem, but I
think it definitely is a necessity for sucessful testing. If one can find an
electric motor with the same tapered cone shaft as the ICE Engine it would be
possible to apply the generator directly. As been pointed out several times the
generator is difficult to remove from the tapered shaft without damage, and
two specialized "gear pullers" were used to officially remove the generator
from it's engine

Some sort of thermal air studies will need to be done to keep the generator
from overheating, if driven by an electric motor.

I suspect the Morin generator version is lacking the AVR regulator module used
in some newer Mite-e-lite generator
versions and is located right behind the power sockets. I can't be sure
of that in the Morin unit. So like the older versions of the generator the wire
from the stator coils go directly to the split phase socket contacts. This is
called parameteric regulation. I can't tell whether the parameters for the
regulator based version is compatible with the regulatorless version. I think
also there is another separate buck/boost coil in the regulated version.

There is a 3300Watt Mite-e-lite generator version with a bigger, thicker yellow
disk and a larger horsepower engine. This seems to be the one used in the
Morin video but with a smaller 4hp engine. According to the patents there is a
barium ferrite magnet disk inside the aluminum rotor, so that is interesting.

One thing for testing would be using dummy loads made of hot water heater
elements, lets say four times 3000Watts each placed in water filled clean 5
gallon paint can water buckets. So one does not have thermostat problems.
If one lowers the 30amp fast blow fuse in the generator to say 20amps
then one should be able to prove that 6000W or 9000W cannot be supported
directly by the generator without blowing it's fuse but *can* be supported by
the generator plus the transformers. This is the kind of cross validation proof
I would be looking for to prove this is OU. Of course if we had the electric
motor powered generator it would be easy then to close the loop.

It could be that other newer generators could be found to work by using
component substitution. Single ground point to true ground wire only please.

I suspect that if the generator and transformer go into reasonance, free
electrons will supply addional energy. The regulatorless generator then can
probably increase work and it begins to work even harder...This is where I
believe the OU energy might come from.

Let us know if you are finding anything.

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I still have been unable to get the McCulloch Generator apart, and I am not willing to go to extreme measures to do so until I havea second generator in my possession. That may be soon. I located another one for sale, have agreed to their asking price, and have asked that they hold it for me until I can come pick it up. It is only 17 minutes out of my way as I go from the house in San Jose that we are selling. (Offer pending) to our new place up north. I could get it within the next three days and then I would be willing to ship the first gen to whoever has the correct pole pigs to do the experiments...if I can't find any to purchase and do the experiment myself. Everything from my old shop is in boxes stacked all over my new shop, so I am a week from being able to do any serious experimenting until I get crap put away. And I still haven't found a source for the pole pigs, nor do I have an easy means, at least for another week or so, of hauling them home. Only a 25 year old Honda Civic until my Land Cruiser is out of the shop where it has been for 13 months being restored. Loaned my Accura to a friend, and my wife wouldn't let me put dirty ol' pole pigs in her new car!

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hitby & Bro Mikey,

Hi, I am interested in helping out by suplying some funds - If whatever group
intends to make their *results public*. I consider this a good idea because
one unit should be able to supply most of ones electrical needs...IF!
I don't think others should do too much until they find out whether OU
can be found in this configuration of equipment.

---

First there is a difference between the pole pig transformer with a single big
high voltage insulator, the other wire is ground to the case of the transformer,
versus those with two insulators. Morin uses the 1wye transformer that have
the one big insulator. I believe the one with two big insulators are one phase
transformers of the 3 phase system, not what we want.

If the proposed experimental reproduction works, I would be willing to
purchase two brand new transformers with silicon based oil that could be
tested by substitution to guarantee someone could build an exact reproduction
version with current part numbers component...ie no surplus transformers.
Again that is if you make the basic Morin demonstration work.

Modern transformers are somewhat physcially smaller than older ones
because materials have gotten better. I was thinking that we may want
to go to 100KVar, 35KVar in a set of new transformers.


The McCulloch Mite-e-lite generator, surplus electronics is a problem, but I
think it definitely is a necessity for sucessful testing. If one can find an
electric motor with the same tapered cone shaft as the ICE Engine it would be
possible to apply the generator directly. As been pointed out several times the
generator is difficult to remove from the tapered shaft without damage, and
two specialized "gear pullers" were used to officially remove the generator
from it's engine

Some sort of thermal air studies will need to be done to keep the generator
from overheating, if driven by an electric motor.

I suspect the Morin generator version is lacking the AVR regulator module used
in some newer Mite-e-lite generator
versions and is located right behind the power sockets. I can't be sure
of that in the Morin unit. So like the older versions of the generator the wire
from the stator coils go directly to the split phase socket contacts. This is
called parameteric regulation. I can't tell whether the parameters for the
regulator based version is compatible with the regulatorless version. I think
also there is another separate buck/boost coil in the regulated version.

There is a 3300Watt Mite-e-lite generator version with a bigger, thicker yellow
disk and a larger horsepower engine. This seems to be the one used in the
Morin video but with a smaller 4hp engine. According to the patents there is a
barium ferrite magnet disk inside the aluminum rotor, so that is interesting.

One thing for testing would be using dummy loads made of hot water heater
elements, lets say four times 3000Watts each placed in water filled clean 5
gallon paint can water buckets. So one does not have thermostat problems.
If one lowers the 30amp fast blow fuse in the generator to say 20amps
then one should be able to prove that 6000W or 9000W cannot be supported
directly by the generator without blowing it's fuse but *can* be supported by
the generator plus the transformers. This is the kind of cross validation proof
I would be looking for to prove this is OU. Of course if we had the electric
motor powered generator it would be easy then to close the loop.

It could be that other newer generators could be found to work by using
component substitution. Single ground point to true ground wire only please.

I suspect that if the generator and transformer go into reasonance, free
electrons will supply addional energy. The regulatorless generator then can
probably increase work and it begins to work even harder...This is where I
believe the OU energy might come from.

Let us know if you are finding anything.

---

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Hi Mark

Thanks for the offer to support our testing setups. So far we can not find many large units. One big one came available awhile back, but Gerard has shown us that removing the gasoline engine is a good idea.

Gerard has shown an electric motor powering the same McCulloch winds.

This will enable looping much easier.

Yes I agree make results openly, don't hide data. If we fail, post that, if we get it working post that. This is partly why we are in a holding pattern right now, because some of those who had made pledges have never been on good terms with one another partly because they want the data to be secret/private to only people who pay money into the project. I reject that idea.

So we can start our pledge all over again as far as I am concerned.

I do not like playing favorites either, thanks Mark

Anyway let us get down to business. We have determined from Gerard that the McCulloch winding is required. Also hitby is full Rock and Roll. The guys shop is full of industrial supplies.

I am sure like anyone Hiyby could do it all himself but we all need to work together and be able to provide materials. Separate test could be performed with version specific devices.

Like you say we could do tests with what Hitby already has but might need to get him a single phase pole pig the right size.

We all appreciate your encouraging post to add support when the time comes. Right now I am waiting to hear from people who can actively participate in this thread. People who don't speak to one another are not interested in working toward a common goal.

I learned along time ago that people say one thing and do another so waiting is an important part of any fulfilled accomplishment. I know that soon we will hear from more men who have something to say and they will be heard.

Tests should be made in an exhaustive way and Hitby is a master.

As far as you spending money for new ones we thank you for this.

However I have found these exact units for hundreds of dollars each while new ones might cost thousands.

I can get things for less that are fully functional for these tests and will make sure that the quality is good. I called the local power company here and talked to the big guys They enjoy a good experiment too.


Anyway Mark let me find a big winding for openers and I will continue to address the group to see who wants to put out the money for each piece of the bigger puzzle.

Mikey

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Here is the latest. Tiny 1200 watt McCulloch genset, to small

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Do we have any specs on the pole pigs GERARD IS USING? If we did, we could start searching for places where they are sold and come up with some I would buy them myself if I had to, and I will have two McCulloch generators. I pick up the second one on Wednesday. Just heard from the folks who have it.

And I just found these guys:
RESA Power Solutions
2390 Zanker Rd
San Jose, CA 95131

Who are about 15 minutes from my house and have used pole pigs for sale. Don't know how much yet, but I will find out tomorrow.I am thinking 100KVar and 50KVar

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Van De Graaf machines yeap. Nothing like what Gerard Morins doing.

Where the van de graaf uses the dielectric belt to "peg" charge and carry it up to the isolated terminal sphere, the washing machine drain pump is just a 3600rpm motor being driven as a generator which outputs AC, not Electrostatic energy at all.

Uh... close ? tho... sorta...

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Do we have any specs on the pole pigs GERARD IS USING? If we did, we could start searching for places where they are sold and come up with some I would buy them myself if I had to, and I will have two McCulloch generators. I pick up the second one on Wednesday. Just heard from the folks who have it.

And I just found these guys:
RESA Power Solutions
2390 Zanker Rd
San Jose, CA 95131

Who are about 15 minutes from my house and have used pole pigs for sale. Don't know how much yet, but I will find out tomorrow.I am thinking 100KVar and 50KVar

Dave

Yeah Check it out Dave

The video showed us one single phase 50kva powered by a 3300 watt McCulloch winding well like this



Okay then the energy is sent over to a 25kva unit. Notation: look at how the first pig having the standard 240vac connectors has one of it's sides SHORTED. This maybe more significant then most people realize.

Also keep in mind that only a magneto twin winding genset will work.

Windings, windings windings, I know and like Mark said we should stick to the diagram. Other test can also be made of all sorts.

So then the energy is sent to the SMALLER unit (25kva) so as to eliminate winding losses. This too is very significant.

Spec's? Well I had originally assumed that the grey pole pigs are all the same. The outside case color may change slightly or the shape of the casting, but the insides are all made the same way.

Could I be wrong on that? I doubt it but ask those guys anyway when you call if you think about it.

we will be looking for your findings.

Oh yeah Turion, I wanted to thank you for letting us all know that your genset didn't pan out the way you thought. No sense hitting it to hard to get it apart if if could be used for awhile as a back up.

Maybe if it runs for awhile it will loosen up. However I think you stated that it was to small? A 1200watt? That is 1/3rd the size we really wanted.

But thanks for the gesture.
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hitby & Bro Mikey,

Hi, I am interested in helping out by supplying some funds - If whatever group
intends to make their *results public*. I consider this a good idea

I suspect the Morin generator version is lacking the AVR regulator module

So like the older versions of the generator the wire
from the stator coils go directly to the split phase socket contacts. This is
called parameteric regulation.


There is a 3300Watt Mite-e-lite generator version with a bigger, thicker yellow disk ...................... According to the patents there is a barium ferrite magnet disk inside the aluminum rotor, so that is interesting.

.
If one lowers the 30amp fast blow fuse in the generator to say 20amps
then one should be able to prove that 6000W or 9000W cannot be supported
directly by the generator without blowing it's fuse but *can* be supported by
the generator plus the transformers.

This is the kind of cross validation proof
I would be looking for to prove this is OU.


Of course if we had the electric
motor powered generator it would be easy then to close the loop.


Let us know if you are finding anything.

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You know alot about this generator. This is good for the experimenters.

Does Barium Ferrite still get used in generator magnets these days?

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The video showed us one single phase 50kva powered by a 3300 watt McCulloch winding well like this
Hey Mike, that last video Gerard did, he mentioned the generator was only a 1500 watt unit driving the pole transformers. It was smaller than he originally thought, which made the results even more impressive.

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Hey Mike, that last video Gerard did, he mentioned the generator was only a 1500 watt unit driving the pole transformers. It was smaller than he originally thought, which made the results even more impressive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJDretlCt8g
Hi Dog

Thats funny because in the Pole Pig video Gerard specifically points out that his 30 fuse have not blown out because he was running about 21 amps.

120vac X 21amps plus could not come from a 1500 watt genset. It might run up to 2000 for 5 minutes but not 2800 watts continuously like Gerard said in the video.

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On the barium ferrite magnetic disk in the McCulloch Mite-e-lite Generator.

The McCulloch generator design is unique (there were many variations
produced over the years by McCulloch). It uses a donut magnet...If you
remember those large loudspeakers built in the 1970's used large donut
ceramic field magnets too. Barium ferrite ceramic magnets then were the
Neodymium magnets of today. According to Wikipedia; Barium Ferrite is
insensitive to being damaged by heating.

My feeling is that this generator is a unique design. It is a variation of a
Homopolar Generator (a homopolar motor actually). The copper or aluminum
disk spins within a magnetic field made by the magnet the magnet creates a
eddy-current loops in the copper disk and creates virtual magnetic poles which
follow the spining disk around. These virtual poles pass the dual "D" stator
coils and induce a voltage that was parametrically regulated by the shape of
the "D" coil(s).

Most modern inverter generators have starter batteries that can induce the
initial field. Non inverter generators use either a small PM DC generator, also
called magnetos, (like large power house dynamoes do) or inexpensive ones
have a residual magnetic field captured by their iron components. They need
to be "flashed" from a 12 volt battery if the field is erased or discharges. So
the, answer is none that I am aware of. A homopolar approach is material
intensive rather then the materials conservative approach of modern
generator, built like electric motors of copper wire wound on iron. There are
axial flux generators that do contain isolated permanent magnets. A field
regulated device has two benefits. One the strength of field changes the
mechanial size of the generator and a field winding has the same temperature
sensitivity as the rest of the windings.

One can see how and unregulated generator might interact with a high voltage
transformer to boost output. Someone said one will eventually Lose Lenz Law
when the rotor spins fast enough. If this is true one could see the system
generating OU energy. One can also see how it would be easy to accidently
overheat a n was not crazy about allowing the generator to run for long
periods.

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The 3300 Watt has a large disc and large motor

30 amps times 120Volts = 3600Watts (extra wattage required because of
FB fast blow fuse)

The 3000 Watt has large disk and 4 HP motor <- Gerrard Morine version
4 HP times 768 equals ~3000 Watts divided by 21 amps = 142 Volts
The 2000Watt version
The 1500 Watt version

There was a 1500 Watt version that support 120 Volt through one outlet
that had only one "D" stator coil.

The 1200 Watt small disc
Smaller disc and motor.

----

The final device would best be run on split phase 240VAC to cut down current
flowing in any one wire. Having split phase 240VAC rather than 120VAC is an
option in the Pole Pig transformer.

----

Options on the transformer. There appears to be rather exhustive labels
outside the transformer telling what is on what is inside.

Obviously the high voltage must match the 14.4KV. Many transformers are
low voltage like 480VAC to 120VAC, so watch for appropriate insulator
length. You often see triplet transformers on utility poles - that is 3phase with
one core for each phase - these are the ones we don't want at least initially.
We want the low voltage class unbalanced ones. I don't generally see 100Kvar
unbalanced. I think that is because 3phase comes to dominate at higher
power levels. I think they can come with lightning arresters and surge\
protectors usually mounted on outside the tank. Obviously resistance either in
series or parallel with a protector could lower efficiency. They can come with
120VAC only or 240VAC center tap. Some transformers contain voltage
adjustment taps for ten volt output intervals. These are adjusted by a
removable crank. Again it would be nice eventually to have this but not
of use much initially. I don't know of any other options. Obviously anything
secreted inside the tank is undesirable. The surge protectors/flashover
protectors need to be looked into for final set-up where we probably want
them on both input and output LVAC but efficiency effects need to be
understood before we would apply them. Especially true if we use direct
to semiconductor circuit methods.

By the way; "believe anyone with actual work experience with these before
you believe me", even though individual utilities may have standards that are
not industry wide.

Also @turion:

I' ll bet it's possible to burn a generator up pretty good without necessary
damaging the heavy duty stator coils. Wire insulation can contribute to lots
of smoke. You could also loose the entire AVR module without changing things
very much. Inspect Stator coil insulation and ohmmeter the coil resistance and
resistance to ground. The wiring schematic is super simple. Measure final
output voltage and power. Discharging the magnetics is a different thing though.

:S:MarkSCoffman
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Gerard Morin replication 10kw to 5kw transformer test

OK Team, After having a conversation with Gerard (and as several have pointed out in the Comments on my first YouTube test) we were running power in the system reversed, we should have taken the source power (currently the grid) and put that into the bigger transformer and then taken our output from the smaller transformer, so we have made another test with the connections arranged as per Gerardís instructions. Big>Small This test is only to set a base line reading to compare with planned future tests. Now we need to go find a BiGGer load.

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Here is the latest. Tiny 1200 watt McCulloch genset, to small
@BroMikey, Gerard did state that you only had to tickle the first transformer to initiate things and from Tom Beardenís work we know that if we donít destroy the dipole and keep the energy flowing that it can cycled through your system several times. So this smaller McCulloch might get things moving, time will tell.

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Great Facts Mark, good answers, all of what you said needs to be considered.
The way you talk about designs got me thinking. Those windings made of flat stock and insulation are very "intense" compared to regular windings.

I was watching Gerard and he called the Barrium magnets HORSE SHOE but I think the Patent says something else?

Or maybe he meant it gave a horse shoe shaped field.

All I know is how awesome those McCulloch windings look as they remind me of start coils.

I am keeping a close eye out for a 3300 watt system (768 watts per HP = 768 X 4HP =) and yes we need need insulation tests, no problem.

The part about losing Lenz law is very exciting, more so that I am hearing it from someone who is obviously astute in this field that perceives the possibilities of OU.


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On the barium ferrite magnetic disk in the McCulloch Mite-e-lite Generator.

The McCulloch generator design is unique

According to Wikipedia; Barium Ferrite is
insensitive to being damaged by heating.

My feeling is that this generator is a unique design. It is a variation of a
Homopolar Generator (a homopolar motor actually). The copper or aluminum
disk spins within a magnetic field made by the magnet the magnet creates a
eddy-current loops in the copper disk and creates virtual magnetic poles which
follow the spining disk around. These virtual poles pass the dual "D" stator
coils and induce a voltage that was parametrically regulated by the shape of
the "D" coil(s).


So the, answer is none that I am aware of.


A homopolar approach is material
intensive rather then the materials conservative approach of modern
generator, .................

One can see how and unregulated generator might interact with a high

voltage transformer to boost output. Someone said one will eventually Lose

Lenz Law when the rotor spins fast enough. If this is true one could see the

system generating OU energy. One can also see how it would be easy to

accidently overheat a n was not crazy about allowing the generator to run

for long periods.

---

The 3300 Watt has a large disc and large motor

30 amps times 120Volts = 3600Watts (extra wattage required because of
FB fast blow fuse)

The 3000 Watt has large disk and 4 HP motor <- Gerrard Morine version
4 HP times 768 equals ~3000 Watts divided by 21 amps = 142 Volts
The 2000Watt version
The 1500 Watt version

There was a 1500 Watt version that support 120 Volt through one outlet
that had only one "D" stator coil.

The 1200 Watt small disc
Smaller disc and motor.




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Hello Group members

It appears that I have found another 3300 watt McCulloch genset on the RENO craigslist. I called and left a message. I will follow up soon. Stay tuned.

It would save time to have all of these pieces to start with rather than trying to make one from scratch.

Don't you agree?

https://reno.craigslist.org/tls/4875164743.html



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I just contacted the owner by phone and he called me back. The price is cheap at $125 but shipping may run $200. That is a samll price to pay for the right everything we need from A-Z. That is so awesome.

He said it had spark but i really didn't care. In other words he can't get it to run. PERFECT for our needs.

Don't you think?

The backer plates and coils plus that dynamite double magnetic rotor could be adapted to an electric motor fast.

Once we have this generator converted I will find some pole pigs.

Is that fast enough for you guys?

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I have never done this before so I don't know how to get this paid for and have a decent record of what I pay for. Or you are paying for.

See what I mean, we want to be sure.

He is actually going to wait till I call him back to check shipping cost I am suppose to call him Wednesday and when everyone has heard and decided this is a good choice I will call him back.

He just posted this Genset and he said he would hold it til tomorrow.

If you have handled things paying out of state let me know the best way to proceed in a secure way.

The young man is in the military and will be at a military base soon on the 17th so I know he has options. Paypal, credit cards, money orders, I never did this before, not real sure.

Let me know what you think Mark. I didn't think it was a bad price at all.

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Check your private messages. It looks like the 3300 is the best deal and it won't get hot having the extra headroom/mass.

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OK Team, After having a conversation with Gerard (and as several have pointed out in the Comments on my first YouTube test) we were running power in the system reversed, we should have taken the source power (currently the grid) and put that into the bigger transformer and then taken our output from the smaller transformer, so we have made another test with the connections arranged as per Gerardís instructions. Big>Small This test is only to set a base line reading to compare with planned future tests. Now we need to go find a BiGGer load.



@BroMikey, Gerard did state that you only had to tickle the first transformer to initiate things and from Tom Beardenís work we know that if we donít destroy the dipole and keep the energy flowing that it can cycled through your system several times. So this smaller McCulloch might get things moving, time will tell.

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Shipping should be no where near $200. I sent an entire 5 speed transmission
setup across the country and it only costed $80.

He sent me a money order cause I don't do paypal or credit cards.

It shouldn't be difficult at all.

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