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Old 05-18-2015, 08:26 PM
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Referring to the quote in Post No. 558, "Tesla said he could produce energy from the primary mover a million times." please review this link: The Secret of Tesla's Power Magnification by Jim Murray & Paul Babcock

This a link to an advertisement for the Secret of Tesla's Power Magnification by Jim Murray and Paul Babcock where they quote Tesla's testimony under oath in a court case, August 5, 1902, "By certain novel processes, the energy of 100 horsepower will used so as to deliver, into the earth, power at a rate of 5 to 10 millions of horsepower."

Not sure how closely Mr. Morin is following in Tesla's footsteps, but I certainly admire his courageous and wish him total success in his efforts.
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@ MorningStar,

I understand that obvious misinterpretation. Read it carefully. It says "rate of energy delivery". Tesla explains this on numerous occasions. If you can use a hammer, you can do the same; while you swing the hammer you accumulate kinetic energy. Then when it hits the nail most of this energy is delivered to the nail in an incredibly short time. Hence the rate (energy per time unit) is increased hundreds of thousands times.
For example, if the swing of the hammer takes 1 second and the time that it transfers energy to the nail is 10 micro seconds, then you have an increase of the energy delivery rate of 100,000 times. But you still have the same amount of energy.
Capacitors are normally used by Tesla to accumulate energy and deliver it at an enormous rate, but in the referred to example Tesla is talking about storing kinetic energy in an elastic system where no energy can leak out. Then accumulation of energy takes place in the form of resonance. And thus by "collecting many small pushes", you can create an enormous movement. Though the system is slightly different, the effect is the same.

As for Lindemann. I do not care what he said. And even less about how others interpret his words. When studying Tesla, read Tesla. Reading other peoples interpretations only introduces errors. Though, once you have read Tesla a number of times, then reading what others write may help you finding things that you overlooked. For there is a lot of treasure hidden in his words.


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As for Lindemann. I do not care what he said. And even less about how others interpret his words.

Ernst.
I will make a note of this, you are a blind man to say this.

Lindemann reads from Patents BOZO
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The Secret of Tesla's Power Magnification by Jim Murray & Paul Babcock[/url]

This a link to an advertisement for the Secret of Tesla's Power Magnification by Jim Murray and Paul Babcock where they quote Tesla's testimony under oath in a court case, August 5, 1902, "By certain novel processes, the energy of 100 horsepower will used so as to deliver, into the earth, power at a rate of 5 to 10 millions of horsepower."

Not sure how closely Mr. Morin is following in Tesla's footsteps, but I certainly admire his courageous and wish him total success in his efforts.

Nice post MorningStar

You got it right.
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I will make a note of this, you are a blind man to say this.

Lindemann reads from Patents BOZO
Let me see....
It started out with
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Tesla said....
So I asked
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Reference? Please.
The answer was:
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Lindemann says...
But isn't it obvious that
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I do not care what Lindemann said. And even less about how others interpret his words.
So now you say
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you are a blind man to say this.
One of us is incapable of reading, indeed.
Or is it
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Some get upset and others discover new things.
Could I have your attention please? That is the message.
Sorry to have upset you.
Well, you had my attention but now I will leave you to your orgasmic thread again.

Cheerio Super Mouse!

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PS. almost forgot some quotes from Tesla on what you are attempting:
1900 June
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If it could do so, it would be what is designated scientifically as a "perpetuum mobile," a machine creating its own motive power.
November 29, 1934, letter to J.P. Morgan Esq.
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As for Lindemann. I do not care what he said. .......................
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Ernst.
It really is a shame that people have no moral kindness for one another.
It is to be expected with Americans growing up with the silver spoon
in their mouths, cursing father and mother so why wouldn't they
curse everyone else?

It is not just one person, it is the majority. Spoiled means that they
ruined. They grow up getting away with everything in grade school,
high school and college is paid for one way or another free handout
and their find jobs keep their heads all blown out of proportion their
entire lives.

Living in delusion thinking their bowel movements don't stink.

This is my response to you and the rest of those who constantly
berate me without cause. I have specified from the beginning that
I have spent 40 years in the ministry and that is enough right
there for most people to show hate toward me.

I understand that. Then on top of that I am not intimidated by
your arm chair commanding presences. I won't submit to foolishness.

One of the greatest men in free energy today is Peter Lindemann and
anyone frothing at the mouth stating they reject his input is a clown
to me.

As for the rest of the suck up type men here joining together like
pack dogs violating site guidelines, they are less than men in my book.

At least you don't break the rules even though you disagree with me.

Who knows maybe I misunderstood you.

Others who insult others with no factual basis violating site guidelines
will continue to do so because they are without a conscience, burnt
completely out of any kind of human kindness or love, then, past feeling.

I will not stand by without a comment if you insult my friends.

Maybe this site has no moral control so this is where Mikey kicks in.

Also I might say for the record that the moles don't come out of the
woodwork till others show a kind exchange toward me. This erks the site
owner. Then the trolls comes out.
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Another Update folks :

The other day I was running 15 amp on the primary delivery. I was already at 120 amp under load on the second transformer. 15 amp breaker on the primary mover did not pop.

Now I'm going to be using a 200 amp generator, with a 500 kv transformer and Literally I'm going to be running 3 500k transformers... we will see the multiplication happening, at the same level. Between each transformer and the primary, each one will have a cap, and I will be able to maintain the level of volts.. which means I will be able to produce 1500 amp, out of a 200 amp generator. Now I do not expect people to go and spend 50,000 dollars on transformers, but if you DO? try it, it works!

If you have enough gaul, to hook it, test it, run it. Put it together, test it, then you will see the multiplication happening. Only those that have balls, will play with HV.
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Another Update folks :

The other day I was running 15 amp on the primary delivery. I was already at 120 amp under load on the second transformer. 15 amp breaker on the primary mover did not pop.

Now I'm going to be using a 200 amp generator, with a 500 kv transformer and Literally I'm going to be running 3 500k transformers... we will see the multiplication happening, at the same level. Between each transformer and the primary, each one will have a cap, and I will be able to maintain the level of volts.. which means I will be able to produce 1500 amp, out of a 200 amp generator. Now I do not expect people to go and spend 50,000 dollars on transformers, but if you DO? try it, it works!

If you have enough gaul, to hook it, test it, run it. Put it together, test it, then you will see the multiplication happening. Only those that have balls, will play with HV.
I knew you were good for it Gerard.
$50,000 is expensive for me yet there are those who have that for a motorcycle. The update about your latest is excellent, I just wish I
could be there to see it all. Don't rush it and be careful, I am looking
forward to a picture or video when you have time of course.

You can run a bunch of heaters on that much power. Load boxes work well
for testing raw current. I'll bet I could dig up enough heater wire
to run a several hundred amps but not 1500.

That is enough to power a small town.

Stay safe. You finally did it again, see you soon.

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Old 05-20-2015, 01:57 PM
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That is fantastic news my friend. Please post some video with schematics as soon as you can. When concept of the conversion is confirmed with certainty there is going to be many ways to duplicate it and cost is not going to be problem. Thank you Gerald for sticking it out, it is time to break this pyridine.
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Another Update folks :

The other day I was running 15 amp on the primary delivery. I was already at 120 amp under load on the second transformer. 15 amp breaker on the primary mover did not pop.

Now I'm going to be using a 200 amp generator, with a 500 kv transformer and Literally I'm going to be running 3 500k transformers... we will see the multiplication happening, at the same level. Between each transformer and the primary, each one will have a cap, and I will be able to maintain the level of volts.. which means I will be able to produce 1500 amp, out of a 200 amp generator. Now I do not expect people to go and spend 50,000 dollars on transformers, but if you DO? try it, it works!

If you have enough gaul, to hook it, test it, run it. Put it together, test it, then you will see the multiplication happening. Only those that have balls, will play with HV.
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Here is a larger scaled motor generator WITH magnet cogging to
couple the motors instead of belts.

It looks to be connected to a constant current supply so the input
is fixed. The man is running way more power out.



The 2nd video is your "free Energy" sermon for the day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePSE6O9vcYk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsAKNC8gmGA





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Structure of the generator

I've just starting to see the configuration of the whole device and my main doubt is about the generator.

I don't know exactly the configuration, but it seems that it has a cylinder magnet (axial magnetization?) and a transformer that consists in 2 coils and 2 cores. Right?
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"Now I do not expect people to go and spend 50,000 dollars on transformers, but if you DO? try it, it works!"

May I ask why you didn't finish the work on the washing machine drain pump motor that supposedly also showed overunity?

Whats the point of going to 50,000 dollar hardware when you had already claimed that the washing machine drain pump configuration was overunity?

Just curious.

It seems like one would be working in the reverse of the direction you are going if you wanted to make the findings available to as many people as possible who could then afford to build the mock-ups.

I don't want to sidetrack you, just curious what your thinking is here.

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Another Update folks :

The other day I was running 15 amp on the primary delivery. I was already at 120 amp under load on the second transformer. 15 amp breaker on the primary mover did not pop.

Now I'm going to be using a 200 amp generator, with a 500 kv transformer and Literally I'm going to be running 3 500k transformers... we will see the multiplication happening, at the same level. Between each transformer and the primary, each one will have a cap, and I will be able to maintain the level of volts.. which means I will be able to produce 1500 amp, out of a 200 amp generator. Now I do not expect people to go and spend 50,000 dollars on transformers, but if you DO? try it, it works!

If you have enough gaul, to hook it, test it, run it. Put it together, test it, then you will see the multiplication happening. Only those that have balls, will play with HV.
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I've been seeing a little bit more about the structure of the generator and it remembers to me to some generator that some russian guys developed less than a year ago. It was a lenzless generator that also used a cilinder as the magnet. The configuration of the coils and the shape of the core was different, of course.
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I've been seeing a little bit more about the structure of the generator and it remembers to me to some generator that some russian guys developed less than a year ago. It was a lenzless generator that also used a cilinder as the magnet. The configuration of the coils and the shape of the core was different, of course.
Do a search on "GERARD MORIN" hundreds are attempting the
replications and any description you are looking for is available
for viewing.

It takes time to research and review, it is all there.
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Do a search on "GERARD MORIN" hundreds are attempting the
replications and any description you are looking for is available
for viewing.

It takes time to research and review, it is all there.
I'm just viewing it. It has two 18 Volts 1.1 amps batteries in series that runs a DC motor at 4,000 rpms and that DC motor moves a washer water drain pump that generates non ordinary watts. Right?
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Do a search on "GERARD MORIN" hundreds are attempting the
replications and any description you are looking for is available
for viewing.

It takes time to research and review, it is all there.
I've just a question. When you connect the load in the output of the washer water drain pump generator... there is a magnetic "brake" in the motor as in an ordinary generator or it can be considered a lenzless generator?
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Drain pump motor is similar to a Gramme dynamo

Well, after looking in the internet for a while I've found that the drain pump motor is basically a Gramme dynamo modification. It has been known for years that a gramme ring armature generator is a kind of a lenzless generator. The drain pump motor only is a variation of the Gramme, but it's very similar.
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I don't know what amount of torque has the generator, but... someone has thought about using a Newman motor to move the generator?

The newman motor consumes very little energy and it could replace the DC motor. Maybe a good option?

Newman motor + Gerard Morin???
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Yes right, but I don't really know how to explain it, just
connect it up and try it. It sounds like you are much
better at the technical terms.

Maybe it is some sort of magnet coupling that causes
some to do better than others with it. One guy says he
can get more out than he puts in using a slayer exciter
and what looks like a Tesla tower all fed by Gerard's
motor/genny.

I like listening to people like you who can explain and
connect terms with effects.

Say on, my man, say on.
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Yes right, but I don't really know how to explain it, just
connect it up and try it. It sounds like you are much
better at the technical terms.

Maybe it is some sort of magnet coupling that causes
some to do better than others with it. One guy says he
can get more out than he puts in using a slayer exciter
and what looks like a Tesla tower all fed by Gerard's
motor/genny.

I like listening to people like you who can explain and
connect terms with effects.

Say on, my man, say on.
I don't really like the DC motor as the movement source. If you've seen the video "electric motor secrets" from P. Lindemann you'll know what I'm refering to.

Maybe a Newman or Rotoverter motors as the movement source would be a better choice than a conventional DC motor. Right?
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The main thing I want to know if there is any change in watt consumption of the DC motor when a load is connected in the output of the water pump generator.

Someone knows anything about this?
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Hi Magnethos,

Here is a link to some testing and discussion about the pump motor. There is also a video there showing the testing.

http://www.energeticforum.com/272860-post341.html

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Thanks, I'm watching it.
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You are absolutely right. Wanting to get away from a dc brush motor,.

Going into an electric 3 phase, aircraft electric RC motor.
The torque on the pump is much less, just enough to get it spinning. Less noise, has benefits all over.

You are right about the generator, if resembles the past.. we have known for a long time that spinning a magnet inside of a coil will do interesting things, but what and how we can harness, that is where I am at now.
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You are absolutely right. Wanting to get away from a dc brush motor,.

Going into an electric 3 phase, aircraft electric RC motor.
The torque on the pump is much less, just enough to get it spinning. Less noise, has benefits all over.

You are right about the generator, if resembles the past.. we have known for a long time that spinning a magnet inside of a coil will do interesting things, but what and how we can harness, that is where I am at now.
Hi Gerard,

About replacing the DC motor with other option, I've been thinking in these motors:

1. Newman motor
The newman motor consumes very little power, in the range of milliamps. But it has low torque. The next video is a stronger version that consumes 1 amp and has a 8,000 revolutions per minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw156mdrFU8

2. Kundel motor
A modification of a 'speaker motor'. It's based on a magnetic effect where magnets are moved in a longitudinal axis (back and forward) and that longitudinal movement is translated to rotational movement by a magnetic effect. Trying to stop (adding resistance) in the rotor, doesn't affects the power consumption. High speed can be possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC50BPyx6AA

3. Rotoverter
I know very little, but it's based on changing the wire winding configuration and using high frequency electricity. It seems to run cold.
In this video, the author claims to run the motor on 180 milliamps @ 120 vac with no load.
Maybe it could be engineered to use the Kundel effect (load on the rotor doesn't affects the power consumption) and maybe it can be run on 120Vac 180milliamps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzO_lzgfoKM


4. Magnetic piston motor
The title says all. It's like a car's motor using coils to energize the pistons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qwq5Rejq4E
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Experimenter Matt getting more out taking all the cake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omj8aJa91Rs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmLWHLZ1Zh0
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Replica HV output. Some people can only get 20 volts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znsxcsQw6qQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxi4nOouXNs



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OverUnity Galore!

I can't believe this treasure of a thread was the last listing on page one and about to slip into obscurity on page two.

Simply was not going to let that happen!!!


So I saved it

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Hey Ortho-Man I see you are standing tall today.

I guess free energy is a mistakeis that what you

think.

Gerard said he was going to be back with the new
better build so let's keep it alive who knows.

What did you think of Matt's video I posted?
Did you see his TV chassis?
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Can't smell you brother. I told you I hit the ignore button but if you want to play bump the thread with no attempt to show real measurable results for the next few years, I'm ok with that.

I'd be better if Hitby and Gerard would come back and tell us all something was real about this "simple energy multiplication" technology. But that ain't gonna happen is it? (Rhetorical Question that I already have the answer to)

Failing that, you could simply admit that you were duped. Yeah, that would work too.

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Can't smell you brother. I told you I hit the ignore button but if you want to play bump the thread with no attempt to show real measurable results for the next few years, I'm ok with that.

I'd be better if Hitby and Gerard would come back and tell us all something was real about this "simple energy multiplication" technology. But that ain't gonna happen is it? (Rhetorical Question that I already have the answer to)

Failing that, you could simply admit that you were duped. Yeah, that would work too.

I guess if ya wanna look at it like that because I haven't powered
my home yet, you are right about all of these cute/cool projects

I hope everyone you mentions gets back with the data so you an I
can build a unit to run some lights. Did you see the Matt Drummond
replication of Gerard Morin pump motor?

He is doing pretty good. I am not the only one here. I started
the thread, that's all. I understand that radiant can be produced
with the Gerard Morin pump motor/Gen.

The big experiment never really got off the ground because
we didn't get the same components as Gerard used.

So unless we do it the way he did it, the test is incomplete.

However a few of the guys were nice enough to buy HITBY
a McCulloch Genset so he could get closer. But I don't think
its over till you know what

No hard feelins homie?

So whats your project looking like? Or is that top secret?

Smells like a stinker to me? Are you messing up?

Anyway let us all know about your weakness with free
energy so we can polk a little fun too. Or are your
shoulder to narrow?

Spit it out like a real man, show us how much extra you got.

I am ashamed to say that I am not getting much extra. I could

but don't have enough time some days and I feel old lately.

The pole pig experiment is great using the factory done
transformers don't you think?
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