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Old 05-10-2015, 08:05 PM
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As I stated before I won't spend much time trying to change your mind about anything.

There is far more to existence than we are aware, have means to measure, or even ability to comprehend.

Nobody here in this forum needs a lecture on the extents of what electricity is accordingly to conventional thinking. But most ARE here to expand what electricity can be, discover a broader interpretation about other forms of power that are present all around us, but not well understood.

Some of these forms of power can do work... but are difficult to measure. Some of these forms of power are inextricably linked to conventional power, but simply hidden by the shadow of Yin (as Yan).

I have experienced many things in life that I cannot measure nor do I understand. I have simply taken notice of phenomena that supports a likelihood. So in short, an entry level belief.

I happen to believe that mankind deserves to see and build knowledge of the big picture. I fully expect that I will have to earn this knowledge with others that have the ability to be open to infinite possibilities.

These possibilities are not fantasies - they are possibilities in search of defining criteria, and replication with others.

If that really disturbs your reality box, you might want to find a new place to exchange. This place is filled with dreamers and doers - not those limited by dogma.


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Hello DavidE. Your comments are not directed to me or anything I have said here. They are directed to something you are imagining. I have already pointed out that I am very open minded about the concept of free energy; however, if a person is going to make measurements, they should do them right. Doing improper measurements and making incorrect assumptions can only lead a person down the garden path. A person either is interested in what is true or they are not. Just because the output of a certain type of circuit may be hard to measure, it certainly doesn't mean it is OK to do incorrect measurements and then try to draw conclusions from those incorrect measurements. That of course doesn't make any sense. If someone doesn't know how to make proper measurements, they should ask for help. There are probably various people around who might be willing to help if someone is sincerely looking for some help.
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. Doing improper measurements and making incorrect assumptions can only lead a person down the garden path.
Happy Experimenting!

Here is a garden path for all. Watch as the voltage is stepped
down and adjustments are made. There is something to learn here.

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Resonant coil effects. Don't be fooled by the pancake it is just a coil.

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Hello DavidE. Your comments are not directed to me or anything I have said here. They are directed to something you are imagining. I have already pointed out that I am very open minded about the concept of free energy; however, if a person is going to make measurements, they should do them right. Doing improper measurements and making incorrect assumptions can only lead a person down the garden path. A person either is interested in what is true or they are not. Just because the output of a certain type of circuit may be hard to measure, it certainly doesn't mean it is OK to do incorrect measurements and then try to draw conclusions from those incorrect measurements. That of course doesn't make any sense. If someone doesn't know how to make proper measurements, they should ask for help. There are probably various people around who might be willing to help if someone is sincerely looking for some help.
Thank you for confirming that I was having a conversation with my self.

"Taking measurements" - I have seen evidence that there are more than one or two types of energy in our world. Since we only have instruments that measure garden variety DC/AC how would you suggest we measure and verify other types?

By what means do you have to assure integrity of data produced by existing instruments? The closer we look at any data set, we must conclude that it is only ever a relative point of reference - nothing more.

Its like discussing grounding - grounding has an infinite number of values relative to how and where its measured. Utilizing scientific method, do you think all grounding represents the same value?

When you are an infant (developmentally) certain things make sense. But when you grow and become an adolescent, another range of things appear as most relevant. Again when you are an adult, and then a transcendent adult each one of these stages has a perspective based reality. The truth most often accepted/offered, is the narrative (the story) that can be held by the observer.

Help? For many the point of inviting other observations (posting) is to re-consider your most current view and determine if your interpretation should change. Learning and evolving perspectives is simply a human condition. Truth is a gradient, not an absolute. Truth is not necessarily nested in any ill intent. any utterance could be completely "innocent."

Now if you are the Creator, God or the Immutable one - I will grant you absolute authority - to know (no questions asked). All other creations, just have their view as they pass through the experiential plane.

I posted on this thread so that you might take a step back and allow that others may hoist experimental interpretations in search of more powerful narratives.

Any one individual here should be willing to launch their thoughts until social resonance is discovered. Isn't that the point of Internet collaboration?

Replications can also hasten new possibilities, and in that doing may serve to erase old paradigms (old observational truths).

I think you illustrate the largest of truths. All observations are illusions chosen based on a selected perspective meaning, nothing more.

Back to Gerard Morin. He has a curious way to communicate, but his fearless tenacity (his style) will help new ideas be born. I only hope that he stays in the vein that he has started, because experimentally I have seen some strong evidence for the fundamental nature of his work. Now I might change this view depending on how he chooses next to illustrate what he claims to know.

But that's for tomorrow's consideration. Please don't tell me that you don't believe in tomorrow?

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"Taking measurements" - I have seen evidence that there are more than one or two types of energy in our world. Since we only have instruments that measure garden variety DC/AC how would you suggest we measure and verify other types?
As I have said, if you are powering a real load with real power, you should be able to measure it. If there is some reason that you can't measure it with standard instruments, then a person should at least be able to demonstrate and/or explain why they can't measure things in a normal way. There may still be ways to make useful measurements even if there is some unusual form of energy at work. For example, if you are powering a light bulb with some unknown form of energy, you could still measure the light and heat coming off that light bulb using appropriate equipment as a way to gauge the output. Where there is a will, there is a way.
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Now if you are the Creator, God or the Immutable one - I will grant you absolute authority - to know (no questions asked). All other creations, just have their view as they pass through the experiential plane.
Thanks David

It is clear that you are not only well able to convey your thoughts
from the elevated plateau you hail from, by mere words but are far wiser
than most will ever even ponder.

Wisdom is a gift.

Each person, such as our friend Gerard, has a gift and should
not be judged as wrong on the basis of meter reading.

And especially not to be compared with other people who have a
completely different gift.

I understand the skeptical mind, it is the flat tire of human nature.

I like to cheer lead so as to relieve the pressure of valueless fears
of what people may think of me if I don't convince them all I am
superman Mr perfect everything

To human nature a cheer leader appears to be an idiot
because human nature wants to pout.

You gotta Bee kidding me, some people are really peer pressure
driven robots?My garsh what a prison.

Outsiders peer into our discussions and wonder what we are
doing or thinking, namely messengers.

The war is on for clear evaluation so one tool after another
is being formulated to add to our ac and dc metering that
we may have more to measure with.

I see people with temp probes and LED indicator/detectors
of many types. Some measure magnetism and some other
forms of radiant if we may call it that.

Thanks you for allowing me to project my ideas into the public
domain where someone may benefit in a small way.

That is my hope. Blowing in the wind

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Wow, bromikey and davide, i observe this thread and others and you two are on fire in the wisdom arena.
"valueless fear", that simple small quote should be made into bumper stickers, shirts or something.
Truth is, fear never has any value, because it freezes people in time, like those blue meanies did to people in the yellow submarine movie cartoon with the beatles.
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I think I can I think I can

Woo Woo doesn't pull the Choo Choo.

Yes there are other forms of energy. I have seen them, felt them, and all but tasted them. So what?

This thread is about a real person who made real claims about real power and then basically disappears while his cheerleaders sit in a circle jerk and throw childish insults at anyone asking logical questions. Seems a bit hypocritical on the part of the woo woo tribe if you ask me.

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Woo Woo doesn't pull the Choo Choo.

Yes there are other forms of energy. I have seen them, felt them, and all but tasted them. So what?

This thread is about a real person who made real claims about real power and then basically disappears while his cheerleaders sit in a circle jerk and throw childish insults at anyone asking logical questions. Seems a bit hypocritical on the part of the woo woo tribe if you ask me.


It's twisted thoughts like yours that prove a twisted mind. You guys are
the one's insulting everyone with you supposed higher grammar.

It is a stinky way of twisting all of the perimeters, I have watched
this all my life. If I say I am cold you will say I am hot.

Gerard is right, human nature is a flat tire, quit crying about it.

Gerard is working hard and I don't see anything coming from you
but non-sense.

You remind me of the armadillo out back, just got his head
in everything and hoping for a vulnerable morsel to eat.

You are not going to eat our friend Gerard.

Come back when you can show us something positive.

The only one insulting is you, so go back to your hole
and crawl in like all creeping things or grow up out
of your lower nature and come up higher.

Fat chance, course I am hurting your feelings giving
you the low down. Stop it!! Just stop it!!

And quit twisting the story.

Well that is my 2 cents. What a bunch of whiny folks
who always need to be pet and stroked.

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Wow, bromikey and davide, i observe this thread and others and you two are on fire in the wisdom arena.
"valueless fear", that simple small quote should be made into bumper stickers, shirts or something.
Truth is, fear never has any value, because it freezes people in time, like those blue meanies did to people in the yellow submarine movie cartoon with the beatles.
carry on.
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Hey Sky

Been following your work. Thank you for your kind words that DAVID
has inspired from me. Looking at David's posts gives me something to
come up to someday. He uses words properly.

I like analogies such as the FLAT TIRE one. But I can see I have
a lot to learn. Really fear of losing position with friends is the
single most powerful pitfall for human kind.

Many folks hate Gerard for trying his best to show the phenomena
he had stumbled on and can not always seem to get it to work
every time.

Once you have seen the phenomena you are a changed person
for life. This is a difficult position to hold in the face of antagonistic
minds.

Never the less Gerard is doing his best to share with his limited
internet connection and literary skills.

Gerard is fearless to take such a position.


Here he is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QLhVjhEMfA

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A warning to all of the trolls, the secret is out and thousands
are running motor generators more than ever before.

Thanks Gerard



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Thanks Gerard here is version 2, busy bee gets the honey

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I'm blind

I can't respond to you because your blinding "wisdom" is more than I can take.....or perhaps because you are on my ignore list and I refuse to click the read post button one time, much less five times.

I'm sure what ever you had to say is 100 percent correct and soon you and Gerard Morin will surprise me with an astounding technology. Can't wait.

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Hey Gerard this man is running his TV on your system.

The system is running great.

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I can't respond to you because your blinding "wisdom" is more than I can take.....or perhaps because you are on my ignore list and I refuse to click the read post button one time, much less five times.

I'm sure what ever you had to say is 100 percent correct and soon you and Gerard Morin will surprise me with an astounding technology. Can't wait.

Dear doubting Thomas

Coming to an outlet near you. It is a great place for young minds
to start experimenting today. Check it out. Don't knock it
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Yea!!! Gerard. GO Gerard GO!!!

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Woo Woo doesn't pull the Choo Choo.

Yes there are other forms of energy. I have seen them, felt them, and all but tasted them. So what?


So what? What do ya mean so what?
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Here is the young mans title, I am glad he is not on this
site to hear all of the shameful spewing.

Don't try to dazzle me with your little Bo peep diploma.





GO GERARD GO!!!






Let's come together and help each other out.......



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Just a quick update guys..

working on a lab still in Ontario for these purposes.
before I leave, I will take a video of the inside of the lab so you guys can see it.
It's been taking up a lot of my time.
We have many parts including transformers hopefully coming soon. If we receive this soon, I can show you how much
amplification we can do with a 50kv generator and 2 transformers.
Sorry for the small update, very busy. I'll try and look at some of these links from this thread soon..

The self loop motor is nearing completion, and we will be able to test it when I arrive home.
Just need to assemble. Getting things you need, can be difficult. When people are reluctant to supply information about these things, you know your in the right area.. Almost as if they don't want you to know how to free yourself.

Be back soon guys.
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Just a quick update guys..

working on a lab still in Ontario for these purposes.
before I leave, I will take a video of the inside of the lab so you guys can see it.
It's been taking up a lot of my time.
We have many parts including transformers hopefully coming soon. If we receive this soon, I can show you how much
amplification we can do with a 50kv generator and 2 transformers.
Sorry for the small update, very busy. I'll try and look at some of these links from this thread soon..

The self loop motor is nearing completion, and we will be able to test it when I arrive home.
Just need to assemble. Getting things you need, can be difficult. When people are reluctant to supply information about these things, you know your in the right area.. Almost as if they don't want you to know how to free yourself.

Be back soon guys.
hey Gerard

Hope you get your parts like you wanted. I am posting recent
replications off of youtube and have been bombarded by trolls
over your motor-Gen or mo-gen or whatever people want to
call it

it seems to be quite a stir over your work, it is really making
the skeptics go into septic shock. No matter I am holding
up a sword for you knowing you would do the same for me.
The problem is as everyone agrees is, once you have witnessed
the magically entrained flow of energy you are a believer from
that day forward, but it is so hard to keep from being called a
liar.

All because the special tuning or whatever it is does not always
appear. Don Smith said over and over that this stuff is not
that hard, we just need to get at it.

I saw some big super giant 4 foot pancake motors like the
washing machines have and those guys have done it. They
drive the giant flywheel motor with a tiny magnet motor
and loop it back.

You are on the right track Gerard. I apologize for the trolls
and remember like Paul B. says "Don't take no prisoners"
it's the same here.

MikeyPS I like your hat too.



School is back in session, remember how Gerard used transformers?

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Hello fellow experimenters

Our fund raising results look like this. This is what I received
in the mail today. They said that only $50 was actually
collected by them and we thank each of you for helping HITBY
get his GENSET and for the other ways we collected funds.

Here it the receipt.





Hello Michael ,

Congratulations on raising funds for your Indiegogo campaign, ‘Gerard Morin's High Voltage Pole Pig Experiments.’.

Today, Thu May 14, we triggered a disbursement of $44.00 to your bank account. This amount represents only the funds raised on your campaign via credit card. Any funds raised via PayPal will have been disbursed directly to your campaign’s PayPal account.

We estimate that you will receive your new disbursement by Thu May 21.

Summary of Funds Raised by Credit Card:

$50.00: Amount raised by credit card
-$4.50: Indiegogo platform fee (4.0%)
-$1.50: Payment processing fee (3%)

=$44.00: Net amount disbursed


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Thermal Picture

If anybody has the eyes, tell me what do you see on the other side of this bulb.. Looking at you.
it's a cheap version/app of thermal imaging.
The bulb was a 1000 high pressure sodium bulb. To see the electrons.
The picture is beyond the bulb.. tell me what.
If you see the shape behind, please post it. And tell me your thoughts.
If anyone wants to play with the pixels for enhanced version. Let me know and post it.



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Also an update from today

Today I was capable of producing North American 240 volt.
With small 2000 watt generator(edit), we managed to produce useable 240, at 15amp.

It was the wrong type of generator, even still we managed to produce 15 amp per side. Inverter/generator. Even with no resonance, 240, `15 amp per side.

The inverter does not have any resonance period, yet was able to achieve this. When we get it truly tuned in and parts arrive, we will have much to share.
We are doing more tests tomorrow with a different generator, and then after that we are doing the big test, with a 50kv generator. Success friends.
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thermal app

Thanks Gerard,
I'm downloading the thermal app just to try some new things in the shop.

Why are you using this app? Motors, generators and such yes, but why on loads and such?

Hope not a stupid question,
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Thermal Picture

If anybody has the eyes, tell me what do you see on the other side of this bulb.. Looking at you.
it's a cheap version/app of thermal imaging.
The bulb was a 1000 high pressure sodium bulb. To see the electrons.
The picture is beyond the bulb.. tell me what.
If you see the shape behind, please post it. And tell me your thoughts.
If anyone wants to play with the pixels for enhanced version. Let me know and post it.



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------------------------------

Also an update from today

Today I was capable of producing North American 240 volt.
With small 2000 watt generator(edit), we managed to produce useable 240, at 15amp.

It was the wrong type of generator, even still we managed to produce 15 amp per side. Inverter/generator. Even with no resonance, 240, `15 amp per side.

The inverter does not have any resonance period, yet was able to achieve this. When we get it truly tuned in and parts arrive, we will have much to share.
We are doing more tests tomorrow with a different generator, and then after that we are doing the big test, with a 50kv generator. Success friends.

Hey Gerard

Good progress, any progress is good progress. That figure of 240vac
at 15amps per leg is very good progress indeed. Experimenting takes
time and effort just for little projects and I can only imagine how
involved this one is. We have heard promises for decades of free
energy claims sometimes the inventors get paid off, I hope this
does not happen to you.

The tiny dots in the picture following each other in sort of a spiral
path might be the electrons, I am not for sure so it looks like you
have a better measuring tool than my dc volt meter

That's great, just what we need it a way to measure better.

Thanks for leading the way and for having such wide shoulders.

Thousands of us really enjoy your work.and all it takes is
one young man to find tune his machine to power his house with,
starting with the lights.

I am going to be expecting your update in the future will have a
tremendous impact on the experimental world.

I guess the biggest thing about you that every really loves Gerard is
you freely give.

This is a rare find indeed.



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I'm downloading the thermal app just to try some new things in the shop.

Why are you using this app? Motors, generators and such yes, but why on loads and such?

Hope not a stupid question,
wantomake
Can you clarify your question again.
Using the thermal app, so we can see the electron flow in a different way.
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Good progress, any progress is good progress. That figure of 240vac
at 15amps per leg is very good progress indeed. Experimenting takes
time and effort just for little projects and I can only imagine how
involved this one is. We have heard promises for decades of free
energy claims sometimes the inventors get paid off, I hope this
does not happen to you.

The tiny dots in the picture following each other in sort of a spiral
path might be the electrons, I am not for sure so it looks like you
have a better measuring tool than my dc volt meter

That's great, just what we need it a way to measure better.

Thanks for leading the way and for having such wide shoulders.

Thousands of us really enjoy your work.and all it takes is
one young man to find tune his machine to power his house with,
starting with the lights.

I am going to be expecting your update in the future will have a
tremendous impact on the experimental world.

I guess the biggest thing about you that every really loves Gerard is
you freely give.

This is a rare find indeed.



Mikey





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Thanks for the comment, I appreciate your words.
We had some again amazing success again today. We will be filming some more soon, bigger tests coming. My goal is to produce 7 mega-watts
WIth a simple primary mover.. with an 8-10hp motor, i should be able to produce 7 mega-watts - single Phase.
Yes, you read those numbers correctly.

I should know more about that test, in a few weeks.

It's going really well. Tesla said he could produce energy from the primary mover to a million times. I'm not quite there yet, but i'm getting close!

VEry exciting folks.
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Don't let this ruin your party, citfta asked a similar question a little while ago....
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Tesla said he could produce energy from the primary mover to a million times.
Whenever I read an incredible claim with "Tesla said" in front of it, I would like to check if I really missed that. I have read all of Tesla's work that I could get my hands on and I do not recall anything like this.
Why would I bother you guys with this, one may ask? Puting your ecstatic atmosphere at risk...
It is because I very much value Tesla's work and I really, let me put this gently, dislike to see how some people treat it. So would it be too much to ask a reference to the article or patent or.... where Tesla said this?



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My personal opinion is that it is from a document Lindemann read
at an old conference. The millions of times referred to oscillations
and either thousands of times or many thousands of times was
more aimed at coefficient of power or C.O.P.

It maybe just an honest mistake, I have not read all of Tesla's
library either so I can't be sure. Tesla made claims that
"It should be possible" or

"it is possible"

but as we all know had his life's work burnt to the ground
for making such claims. Tesla could really ring the bells, enough
to show how powerful a standing wave is from a device
the size of a small box.

Tesla was a weirdo by our standards of science today.

I remember seeing some old 40's or 50's sci-fi movies where the
actors dressed and looked like Tesla painting him as a crazy
freak of nature who was no less than heavy into witchcraft.

The big Hollywood money really drilled this into the public
spending huge sums of money for THEIR propaganda.

As for what other people remember about this era I have
no clue. I think that Gerard is a very enthusiastic individual
and dramatic, that makes people take notice of Tesla.

Some get upset and others discover new things.
Could I have your attention please? That is the message.


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