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Old 12-24-2014, 10:31 PM
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Lightbulb Gerard Morin's Video - The Doubt about OverUnity is Over

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Published on Dec 21, 2014

The mystery of Over Unity is done. The Law of loss
does not apply, Newton, Faraday etc.. are based on multiplication.
This is amplification. 2 Pole Transformers

1500-2000 watt Mcculloch 4 HP Generator.
non brush / engine
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Spf5WVGgSY

Transformer terminal is considerably colder than the ambient temperature.

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Inside the McCulloch Generator

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Thanks for starting this thread

I have been playing with his earlier setup the past few days using a DC motor coupled into a washing machine drain pump motor as a generator. Although it does produce AC currant I have not as of yet seen any gains. It will light all types of bulbs and is very interesting. Unfortunatly as of now my coupler has broken and I need to figure a better way after the holidays. I admit that my setup looks exactly the same but maybe something is different because I have not found anywhere where he shows any spec's or diagrams.
Here is the other guy in that video showing a replication of what I am talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gPhTGNrDiQ
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I have been playing with his earlier setup the past few days using a DC motor coupled into a washing machine drain pump motor as a generator. Although it does produce AC currant I have not as of yet seen any gains. It will light all types of bulbs and is very interesting. Unfortunatly as of now my coupler has broken and I need to figure a better way after the holidays. I admit that my setup looks exactly the same but maybe something is different because I have not found anywhere where he shows any spec's or diagrams. Here is the other guy in that video showing a replication of what I am talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gPhTGNrDiQ
Interesting.

I don't know that any gains would be measurable at such low power levels.

In the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Spf5WVGgSY, the thing that caught my attention is the temperature differential. Is the transformer terminal really getting colder? I believe a more detailed investigation needs to be conducted.

Perhaps, an old style thermometer can be used to detect a temperature change on the transformer terminal.

If the temperature is really decreasing, what is causing it to decrease?

That's what I would like to know.

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It would appear that the power amplification comes by upconverting the energy to thousands of volts, and then back down.

However, the upconvert to 50kva, and then back down to 25kva... quite interesting. Would it still work by upconverting to 50kva and then back through another 50kva? Or is it done the way it is for losses?

It would be interesting to pass the high voltage through a spark gap within a vacuum...
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Impedance Reversal

What I find most interesting about Morin's demonstrations is the reversal of impedance.

Typically our electrical systems use a low impedance source to drive a high(er) impedance load. In Morin's setup this condition is reversed. If one takes the time to actually do the low power experiment, surely there is something to be learned. When I did it, it surprised me the tiny windings in the generator didn't just burn up, which is what I actually expected to happen. Things get even more interesting if you connect a high power toroidal wound isolation transformer between the generator and load--now the load sees a low(er) impedance source and the generator sees a low impedance load. The output of this, I would be careful touching with bare hands.
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Interesting.
In the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Spf5WVGgSY, the thing that caught my attention is the temperature differential. Is the transformer terminal really getting colder? I believe a more detailed investigation needs to be conducted.

Perhaps, an old style thermometer can be used to detect a temperature change on the transformer terminal.

If the temperature is really decreasing, what is causing it to decrease?

That's what I would like to know.
Here's a pretty nice write-up on IR Thermometers:
How Infrared Thermometers Work - Quick Tips - Grainger Industrial Supply

Best I can tell, the IR meter detector (thermopile) is measuring the difference between the focused IR coming from the target and the reference inside the meter. So if the IR radiation flow is inwards towards the target, the meter side must be detecting a much higher value of IR radiation. This implies a gradient exists between where the meter is being held and the target, which appears to be several inches away. Whatever kind of field this device is producing is certainly confusing the meter's reference point. I say that because obviously the target isn't that cold. However there is a field being emitted that is extending out past where the meter is being held.

I do believe an IR meter may be a useful tool in exploring Over Unity devices, even if the actual numbers are erroneous. If you can build a device that confuses an IR meter in this manner, your device may have some interesting characteristics in need of serious investigation.
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I don't doubt the guy, he might be on to something but the load end of it wasn't clear. Of course at max setting those heaters use 1500 watts but were they set at MAX. The saw on the other hand probably uses close to 100 watt free wheel in a dead stop might pull 1500 watts.

Now even though he used a 4000 watt gen the surge on it could be as high as 6000 watts. SO if the heaters are at max 4500 watts plus the saw maybe 4700.

So do the math a 30 amp fuse at 220 vac is 6600 watts. So realistically its all possible. He has not exceeded anything.

As far as the thermostat goes I can't explain that but it was really instant cold, Metal doesn't change temperature that fast, so how do you explain it.

Also the amp meter looked like it had bad battery.

Why go through the trouble of making the claim and not making the info clear. That bugs the crap out of me.

But again I am not doubting he might have found something but what he found and how he presented leaves more questions than its worth. At least I am not going to buy $2500 dollars worth of transformers to test it.

How hard can it be to make a clear and precise presentation of the facts as he wants to show them?

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Lightbulb Modified Gerard Morin System

How difficult would it be to remove the gasoline engine from the McCulloch generator and replace it with an AC induction motor?

The ultimate proof of overunity for me would be to have a modified McCulloch generator be powered by AC induction motor in the following configuration:



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the earlier videos

If you go to his channel and watch the earlier videos useing the drain pump motor. He is saying that this does work and to replicate it and see. This was the basis of his discovery. I before it broke down I was able to do several tests.
Useing incandecant bulbs seemed the best most telling to me. It would light a 60 watt bulb but only half bright and it did lug down the drive motor. I hooked a step up transformer and got my output voltage up to 220 volts and it still lit the same 120 volt bulb the same but did not seem to lug the drive motor down as bad. In both cases the output with the bulb lit was about 80 volts. Now keep in mind that the input was a 24 volt dc motor from electronic goldmine overdriven from two 18 volt drill batteries in series at about 15 amps. Running the input voltage setteled at about 29 volts and steadily dropped from there. Next I connected the output into a MOT and then back into another MOT for step down just like he did with his big transformers. It still lit the 60 watt bulb the same half bright but now when I measured the voltage across the bulb it only showed 30 volts. This is when my coupler broke.
So I can't say for sure when I will get to fixing things but any suggestions?

BTW- the washing machine pump motor I used for the generator is a LG 120v 80 amp.
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Terminals cooling

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I noticed from:
Thermoelectric generator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1821, Thomas Johann Seebeck discovered that a thermal gradient formed between two dissimilar conductors produces a voltage.[1] At the heart of the thermoelectric effect is the fact that a temperature gradient in a conducting material results in heat flow; this results in the diffusion of charge carriers. The flow of charge carriers between the hot and cold regions in turn creates a voltage difference. In 1834, Jean Charles Athanase Peltier discovered the reverse effect, that running an electric current through the junction of two dissimilar conductors could, depending on the direction of the current, cause it to act as a heater or cooler.[2]

I just wonder if there is a copper/steel junction at the terminals that may be causing a cooling effect?
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Hi everybody:

Ive been told, some time ago, by an electronic E. very related to free energy that he knew power lines are the real generators, power company only need a little energy to keep the full thing going.
So here is the thing: most of the energy we pay come from the power lines without the need to spend oil, coal, nuclear or whatever.

I think also Tom Bearden says something similar.
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Compare the two images.



It appears to me that the above device is essentially Tesla's device as pictured below.

I believe the key is the McCulloch generator's design and construction to produce a cold-electricity type of electricity. The model number could be either H-2000 or H-3000. This type of generator has no brushes or slip rings.



US Patent #593,138

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I see you've got the most important component on your schematic Vid.
namely a switch to stop it,
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It appears to me that the above device is essentially Tesla's device as pictured below.

I believe the key is the McCulloch generator's design and construction to produce a cold-electricity type of electricity. The model number could be either H-2000 or H-3000. This type of generator has no brushes or slip rings.



US Patent #593,138

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The McCulloch Mite-E-Lite Generator deserves some further study.
1 No brushes or slip rings.
2 Odd shaped stator coils with air cores. Conventional generators need Iron cores to maximize the magnetic flux density for power production.
The air cores may contribute to a lower Lenz power Generation.
3 Permanent magnet rotor.
4 No exciter necessary for starting.
5 Minimal external circuits needed
6 Less weight than conventional Generators.
All this brings about the question is this type of generator still produced?
A manufacture should be able to produce this generator at a fraction of the price of the generators I can get at Harbor Freight at this time.
If others can bring more information on these Generators
Please share your knowledge.

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To me, I believe that the McCulloch H-2000 or H-3000 generator must on some level be like the Source identified as B in Tesla's patent.













The following is from Tesla's US Patent #787,412.







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Howdy VIDBID

How did you conclude that this McCulloch is using a bifilar? Or what does it have in common with the bifilar winding?

Are you saying that this generator is using a bifilar effect? Like the Tesla Patent you posted? Or are you asking if they are the same?

A standard starter in a car uses this type of winding shown and can also be used to generate electricity as well.

Let us know what was on your mind here.

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The man in the video said the generator is supplying 2800 watts.

So it looks like he is getting twice that much power back by stepping up and stepping back down. He said the max fuse amps=30 but he is running under this at 110vac.

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Vidbid,

I just happen to have a test bench ready and waiting if someone can point me to some transformers that may work. No poll pigs though.



The motor on the left is the start motor and the motor on the right is the looper motor. The generator in between should be plenty capable if the secret is stepping up the voltage, then back down, Don Smith style.

We don't need amplification of tens of thousands of horsepower here. By my calculation to overcome loses, about 8 times magnification should be plenty. In fact that may cause a runaway condition.
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These transformers are probably to small but Kurt did this test. Nice motors Dog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDXKnk9hFMI





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I just happen to have a test bench ready and waiting if someone can point me to some transformers that may work. No poll pigs though.



The motor on the left is the start motor and the motor on the right is the looper motor. The generator in between should be plenty capable if the secret is stepping up the voltage, then back down, Don Smith style.

We don't need amplification of tens of thousands of horsepower here. By my calculation to overcome loses, about 8 times magnification should be plenty. In fact that may cause a runaway condition.
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How did you conclude that this McCulloch is using a bifilar? Or what does it have in common with the bifilar winding?

Are you saying that this generator is using a bifilar effect? Like the Tesla Patent you posted? Or are you asking if they are the same?

A standard starter in a car uses this type of winding shown and can also be used to generate electricity as well.

Let us know what was on your mind here.

Mikey
I don't believe the McCulloch is using a classical bifilar as the kind shown in Tesla's patent, but it is apparent that it does use two parallel coils.

I believe that this type of McCulloch generator works on the same principle as a magneto generator.

One of these generators is currently for sale on ebay.

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Kurts Video 6

Here is the next video doing the same step up down experiments. Yes it is true so I got two coils the same brand new. Gonna try it too someday.

VIDEO 6


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I just happen to have a test bench ready and waiting if someone can point me to some transformers that may work. No poll pigs though.

The motor on the left is the start motor and the motor on the right is the looper motor. The generator in between should be plenty capable if the secret is stepping up the voltage, then back down, Don Smith style.

We don't need amplification of tens of thousands of horsepower here. By my calculation to overcome loses, about 8 times magnification should be plenty. In fact that may cause a runaway condition.
Yes, I believe you're right about stepping up and then stepping down the voltage. Also, I believe that an extremely high voltage is required as well as single wire transmission of a longitudinal form of electrical current through that single wire.

See Longitudinal and Transverse Waves video.

I believe that the reason why the transformer terminal decreases in temperature after the generator is turned on is because the type of current in that single wire is endothermic in nature, that is, it is pulling heat energy from the environment.

However, I do believe that a McCulloch-type-of-generator is needed. I don't believe that a normal AC generator with slip rings will work. I believe that in addition to the electrical current that the McCulloch generator is producing, it is also producing some form of radiant electrical energy, perhaps, even a form of cold electricity.

Without putting a scope on the McCulloch generator, how can one accurately speculate on what the generator's output voltage waveform would look like, but I do believe there are four places on those two coils where voltage is being induced. I will discuss more on that later.

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These transformers are probably to small but Kurt did this test. Nice motors Dog
I suppose if nothing else, these little dudes attached could work. Bet they are pricey though.
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I called the local power company here and verified this on EBAY. USED transformers like this can work just fine. They are a few hundred bucks.

The farmers all put up and down three 50kva cans at a shot here in the bread basket. There one day and gone the next. The power companies will sell some of their stuff off cheap because after all once they gotcha hook in they can bleed you a nickel at a time we are there SUCKERS, literally power suckers.

So they will set you up fast and easy with used, no problem.

They practically thrown those little cans (#10's) out for nothing. Check it out. If this stuff pans out the way we think, on a small scale, #10's would be the next step up.

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You ready to ride out to Florida? 25kva, 15kva its all the same hook Put a tune up on an old snow bird and go get her

350 smackerue's OH plus GAS $59 a month and its yours

Of course you want the single insulator can. This shows us the low end price. Don't drive to Florida, I was just joking. Go to your local power line guys and save gas, where they repair. The surplus is everywhere.



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One of these videos was posted here by ZeroMassInertia of teardown of McCulloch 1200.

Topic: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

The videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3b03aKYDi4 part1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jWDynGxCI0 part2

In the first video he describes the performance of generator. In the second video he notes that the back plate behind the coils in a big permanent magnet. This gen is working like a lot of flux redirect type gens. IE the Kromrey or the one discussed in the thread I link above. Konzen also had one I can't remember the name, it been replicated several times.

Basically if you have the RPM's Lenz does not effect you. The magnet is stationary the coils are stationary you oscillate the field through a piece of iron to energize the coils.

I think you can skip those transformers and look more to the generator, unless of course you want to transmit over a given area.

The Kromrey device shown by Bedini and shown in the patent makes Cold Current and is labeled and Energy converter in the patent. Cold current that has been documented will also grow over resistance, I think Floyd sweet showed that and Searl.

Before you buy transformers build a McCulloch gen.

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Dog One - Gerard mentions that a conventional style generator won't work.

Bro Mikey - I worked on the dual ignition coil when kurt showed that. It was fun to play with but not OU. Gerard mentioned that he thought the effect could maybe be done useing a inverter but not a solid state type. So maybe I could use a half waive from the washing machine motor to drive it. I am not sure if it can be done with pulsed dc or not.

In this video starting about the 4:00 minute mark Russ talks about up comming projects and Gerared Morin. He holds up a stripped down washing machine pump motor and you see it has the 2 seperate coils. What he doesn't show is the one single magnet that spins in the center. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ9Q_mYWLZs
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Dog One - Gerard mentions that a conventional style generator won't work.
I was afraid of that. Mine is brushless, but uses a capacitive exciter, no permanent magnets.

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I am not sure if it can be done with pulsed dc or not.
In the Tesla patent Vidbid posted, he mentions pulses from a cap dump as the preferred method. I think for our purposes though, some sort of shaft driven, permanent magnet, air core generator is going to give the best results.

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In this video starting about the 4:00 minute mark Russ talks about up comming projects and Gerared Morin. He holds up a stripped down washing machine pump motor and you see it has the 2 seperate coils. What he doesn't show is the one single magnet that spins in the center.
I'll talk some more with Russ and see what his plans are. As we set the boundaries for what is needed here, I suspect various people will have the means to pull something together.

I do feel we are getting close to the point where it is "go big or go home" time. We really need to put together something that loops, provides significant indisputable power and can be assembled by most members of these forums. Something the hard-heads at overunity.com simply cannot dismiss. We may be getting close. We just need to follow Tesla's guidance, dot the i's and cross the t's; the rest will take care of itself.
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Thanks for opening this discussion on the McCulloch generator.
My question to you, is this attached thumbnail a speculation on the construction of the Permanent magnet Rotor?
A key point of construction is the number of poles, polarity and their placement in the rotor. Question Two is the stator support for the coils Aluminum or other metal. Just trying to get it right Thank You
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I don't think those are magnets in the rotor. How would you get North South in either coil with that arrangement..?
I think those are steel to guide the flux. The plate behind the second rotor is magnetized. The steel slots are timed to produce power in either the left or right and depending on how the power is pulled from the coil depends on if you get +60 or _60 out of the coil.

If they were all permanent magnets you would have to have 1/2 of them poled 1 way and the other half poled the other way on the other half. to keep 60 hertz +- you would have to be spinning 3600 rpms. Thats real fast for an old briggs engine. 300 - 600 rpms would give you 60 hertz in the fashion i described it.

Then to top it all off the coils are only 16 turns each of what looks like #10 AWG flat magnetic wire.

Just my opinion. Be nice to find one. I remember vividly seeing one in a junk pile a couple years back.

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