![]() |
|
Renewable Energy Discussion on various alternative energy, renewable energy, & free energy technologies. Also any discussion about the environment, global warming, and other related topics are welcome here. |
* NEW * BEDINI RPX BOOK & DVD SET: BEDINI RPX
![]() |
|
Thread Tools |
#151
|
|||
|
|||
Here is from the IR Fluke Temp Meter:
Do not operate the probe near large electrical or magnetic fields such as arc welders and induction heaters. These fields can cause measurement errors. hope this clears the cold readings near the big transformers or hv telsa coils
__________________
|
|
#152
|
||||
|
||||
Pointless skepticism?
What is the point of a long discussion about how he is "probably a fake"? We should be collaborating ideas on what is going on here, and comparing them to past successes in order to come to an educated theory of operation. You can say that you don't think it is real because of A,B, and C, but unless you replicated it or worked with him directly, what credibility do you have?
Personally, I see validity in his small scale replication being a unique type of generator. The magnet stays equidistant from the inductors, and can be rotated at a very high frequency practically. When the resonant frequency of an inductor is reached and surpassed, the inductors behave like capacitors (they exhibit negative inductance). In this case, when the coils are wound correctly, the capacitive effect of the inductor is "shorted out" when the bloch walls align with the inductors. Capacitor shorting notoriously produces unusual effects (see Ismael Aviso's work, as well as Tesla's infamous hairpin circuit). To me, this sounds feasible, but I WON'T KNOW UNTIL I TRY TO REPLICATE IT. I spent $50 on a water pump, and I intend to replicate this experiment. If I give it my all and I fail, it still doesn't mean he was a fraud, it simply was a failed attempt. I wish I could see people working together on web sites like these instead of bickering and making no progress. I mean no offense, it is just an observation. I will update my progress as I make it. -Ajay
__________________
|
#153
|
||||
|
||||
![]() Quote:
Certainly, it would please TPTB to discredit him. I'm still waiting on his update video which he promised a while back but has yet to deliver on. What's the deal with that, I wonder? Regards, VIDBID
__________________
|
#154
|
|||
|
|||
i happen to believe the guys theory that the ir meter is malfunctioning. ever seeen any electronics, pulling on past experiences, that yo8u get them near something like that, at that distance and they malfunction?
i'm goign to blieeve that statement but not believe that maybe he's not maybe not making it up that he's got something. because ive not seen the opposite.
__________________
|
#155
|
|||
|
|||
With my experiments useing the pump motor I have not found any magnifying effects as Gerard has claimed. Now I am the first to admit that maybe I have missed something in my setup or have not found the sweet spot or whatever. I do find it disturbing that Gerard has not included amp readings. I truly hope he has something and more testing will bear fruit.
I don't think he is a fake but most all of us that experiment with this kind of stuff has fooled ourselves at one time or another thinking we have found something special only to find later that we had overlooked something important.
__________________
|
#156
|
||||
|
||||
Small scale replication
Zardox,
If there is any significance to this circuit, I believe the key to unlocking the phenomenon exists at high frequencies. Either add magnets to your motor (if it is a DC motor) or gear it up. In his videos, I was struck by how much voltage was coming out, considering that magnetic flux prefers iron to air by over a thousand times, and the magnet is not coming in close contact with the inductors. The coils should be bucking like the Kromrey converter. I am not sure if you will need to modify the coil arrangement to satisfy this condition. If nothing else, this circuit should be able to run a Tesla Hairpin circuit. Just place a pot on the motor to control frequency, and find a spark gap quenching method that operates at the same frequency as the AC from the pump. If any longitudinal dielectricity effects are present, they should manifest themselves most obviously in this circuit. Thanks for sharing and good luck! -Ajay
__________________
|
#157
|
||||
|
||||
Finally got my drain pump in today and got around to taking it apart. There is a big plastic part on the front that is attached to the shaft and wont come off. Not sure what to do about that yet.
Here are some pics: ![]() ![]() ![]() I am going to try to run it with just a stock motor and see what happens once I can figure out how to get it attached. -Altrez
__________________
|
#158
|
|||
|
|||
must be a different pump
Alterez, I have one of those as well. I couldn't get the plastic impeller part off of mine either.
My thought is to try to make a matching "socket" for it to slip into. Still not sure exactly how to do that, perhaps a cast epoxy, or other type moldable / machineable substance.
__________________
|
#159
|
|||
|
|||
I cut a piece of tube and made four slits in it and glued right on to that finned part.
__________________
|
#160
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
This is just a dc to ac converter. No magic. They never show you how much current that 24V DC motor draw from the 36V batteries. My pump motor is a 230V one. It looks just like the one Mr Gerard Morin used. I did a test using my dremel tool to drive it. It can run 33000rpm at full setting. I can’t measure rpm with my rpm meter. I think the measure area is too small. With the dremel at full speed no load, the output is very high and produce a 4mm spark. I used a 15W cfl bulb. I adjusted the dremel speed to about 40% to get 230V out loaded with the cfl and it burns happily. So roughly about 13000rpm. The dremel is rated 125W so 40% could be about 50W input. I did not connect an ammeter to the input I also touched the bulb terminals with the back of my hand. Needless to say it shocked the living hell out of me. Edit:It did lit up a 40W incandescent bulb. The dremel was running full speed and I got the output to the 220V bulb up to 185V. I tried a 100W bulb and got nothing out. Not even a glow. So, no cold electricity or gains from this pump motor. Regards Vissie
__________________
Last edited by nvisser; 01-15-2015 at 10:42 AM. |
#161
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
![]() -Altrez
__________________
|
#162
|
||||
|
||||
culloch gen.
hello everyone
I want to get some news on the topic: the MC CULLOCH generator. It seems that the history of this generator is more complicated than I have seen at first sight, and patented rotor - generator, it has TKM Electric Corporation. Here you have a copy paste after a newspaper of that time: regard. lorinrandone BUSINESS LEADERS INSPECT ASSEMBLY — Watching an assembly operation dl kfo McCulloch Mite-E-Lite'' plant' arV, A COMPETITIVE LINE OF PRODUCTS — Inspecting a copy of on.e of the firm's promotional brochures, First Trust Com- behind plant employe, from'left to right, Carl. E. Reuning, First Trust Co. president; Walter G. Taber, the bank's executive vice nny President Carl E. Hoiming and Mite-E-Lite President William Hollo discuss promotional plans. Beside them appear the P resiclent and a member of the Mite-E-Lite board of 'directors; Donald A. Bowersox, Mite"-E-JL.ite' vice president; William Roilo, . . Mite-E-Lite president, Joseph Sullivan, president of Greater Wellsville Industries, Inc., and^JD'an Gleason, plant supervisor, who is our principal production models of the Mite-E-Lite generator, Today. McCulloch Milo-E- Lile, Inc., a subsidiary of McCulloch Corporal ion of Los Angeles, manufactures a porkihle generator that is one of t h c world's first successful entries in the field of permanent magnet alternators. It is one of the lightest, most compact, trouble free alternators in the industry, thanks to its unique axial air gap design. The firm manufactures this product on a 10.5 acre site in a Wellsville industrial park, maintains a $75,000 annual payroll and averages $400,000 annually on local (western New York) purchases for materials. Mite-E-Lite, which already e.x- porls its product to every country in the free world, expects to triple its volume over (he next (liree years in its present product line, in addition to branching out into several new fields of endeavor. .Sales are expected lo total well over $1 million for the fiscal year I9(i6-(i7. Faith in Wellsville This success story could never have been written without the complete and working faith of the town and its business leaders in Wellsville as a prime site for new industry. The local bank, the local industrial development corporation, the chamber of commerce, the town's newspaper — all played prominent roles in Mite-E-Lite's location, growth and expansion in Wellsville. The story began back in May I960, when a pair of prominent Allegany County businessmen- owners of a- grey iron foundry in the nearby • community of Friendship — found themselves in a position to diversify. They joined forces with the present president of Mite-E- Lite. William Rollo. Their aim was to establish a new corporation in Wellsville with an interesting new product — a portable generator, to be produced cooperatively by the new corporation and TKM Electric Corporation of Rochester. TKM- possessed the electrical patents and was to produce the rotor and stator for the mechanism. This group, comprising a cross-section of Wellsville business and industrial leaders, believed in the proposed new company and agreed to do all in its power to -bring a new industry to Wellsville. First Trust proposed a $100,000 bond issue to raise the money needed 10 finance the new firm, and cemonstrated its confidence by becoming the first subscriber. The voluntary subscription, thanks lo top drawer salesmanship by the bank and 100 per cent editorial support of the Wellsville Daily Reporter, was completely sold out in three days. The pedple of Wellsville had given their answer — a resounding welcome to the proposed new industi'y'. After the sale, First Trust established a working line- of credit with the fledgling firm which continues to this day 1 . ABOUT READY. FOR SHIPMENT — Donald A. Bowersox, vice president and WillHm Rntin flent of McCulloch Mite-E-Lite. Inc., pause to in sped' a" Shipment of some oT !ie fim "°' tors destined for domestic as well as overseas shipment. n- • gen er a' genera- To the Editor: Let's hope it does not happen. Let's hope that Lt. G6v. Malcom Wilson officially ^-declines the 1 'appointment to' fill a vacancy on the State Court of Appeals, which Gov. R feller offered hiimonly two after the Nov. 8th election. 'So far Lt. Gov. Wilson has declined the appointment, but it appears to be a rather weak declination. This vacancy on the State Court of Appeals was clearly in the horizon when Mr. Wilson accepted the GOP nomination last September to be Gov-. Rockefeller's running mate. If the Lt. Governor desired to make a shift to the State Court of Appeals, the time to so indicate would have been at the Republican Convention in Rochester, and not after he had been re-elected as Lt. Governor. The vacancy thai exists will occur on the same clay when Associate Judge Stanley H. Fuld steps up to succeed Chief Judge Charles S. Desmond, who is retiring. Should the lieutenant governor resign either before or after taking his oath of office; there is no provision in the state constitution to fill the vacancy which would then exist for the next four years. If Mr': Wilson should resign, then presumably the president proterri of the State Senate, Sen. Brydges of Niagara County, would, "assume all the duties of the lieutenant governor," in add'tion to his present duties, which are considerable. In. the past, the office of LJU Gov. has not been what most people would call the most exciting and challenging office of, our stale government. However," in recent years the Lt. Gov. qf this state and many others ha.% had lo assume more execu? live responsibility thin had fcwi merly been the case. During the, recent campaign several valid proposals were made to expand the responsibilities of th's . ofs fice. , .„{ It seems quite clear that NYS; cannot afford to be without 'd Lt. Gov for four years. LtX Governor Wilson, having 'accepted the nomination and won; the election to a third term? should expect to serve a full term. Let's hope he officially declines Gov. Rockefeller's of> fer to fill this vacancy on the State Court of Appeals. R, Theodore Smith Jamestown • Sale to McCulloch , The business volume of the .new firm progressed yearly. .Its early success came to the attention of McCulloch Corporation of Los Angeles, world's largest chain saw manufactur- , er and outboard motor produc- . er, . who was seeking to broad,en its operations. Hearth saw, ', in a possible affiliation with a w.orld - wide organization like „ McCulloch, a golden chance to .enter the export field. In addition, the Mite-E-Lite trade name had caught on, and the ..possible advantages to be gained from a .combination 'of two ...well-known trade names was intriguing. Negotiations, in which Greater.. Wellsviile » Industries, ...Inc. (> was an active participant,' be- 'gan in the fall of 1964 for McCulloch's acquisition of Hearth. ( The transaction was finalized in the spring of 1965. Hearth Industries, Inc. thus became Mc^Culloch Mite-E-Lite, Inc., . a .New York State corporation i and. a wholly owned subsidiary of the parent firm in Los Angeles. A separate identity was retained and the officers of the -firm, all Wellsville area citizens, remained substantially the same. Realizing their great debt to bhe people and business groups of Wellsville, company officials T insisted on two prerequisites for '.sale of the company to McCulloch: — The portable generator firm would remain in Wellsville. — Hearth bond holders, a' the time of sale, would be considered as stockholders in re ceiving the. same amount of Magazine Widely Distributes Plug For Wellsville The current issue of "Business in New York State," in which the above article on Wellsville's McCulloch, Mite-E- Lite Inc. plant appears has a very wide circulation across the nation and in numerous foreign lands. Published by the Slat* 1 Commerce Department, the bimonthly magazine goes out to private and public industries, Chambers of Commerce, industrial, commercial, and recreational organizations of all kinds, libraries, and newspapers, radio and tejevision stations. jyiany copies are sent out to international trade associations around the world. The above story, which detail* the typ,e of success story possible through community coon eration and support of small But well - founded industrial 'operations, was chosen for pub location as an excellent example of the community-project ronpnpt of industrial develop money had they converted their .bonds to stock. Forty per cent of a bond could be taken in stock at recall. . Gratitude to People Mr. Rollo, in describing Mite- E-Lite's gratitude 'to the people of Wellsville said: •"While, the success of Hearth Industries and McCulloch Mite- E-Lite has been most gratifying to the officers, directors and stockholders, this accomplishment could, in no way have been accomplished without the tremendous help given by the community of Wellsville and, in particular, the bank relationship we have enjoyed with the First Trust Company of Allegany County. The faith the bank has shown in the management, the product and the prepress of our company has been just tremendous." Carl E. Reuning, p resilient of First Trust, aptly describes the role of the entire community: "The success of the ' Mite-E- Lite venture here, in Wellsville resulted from a combination of responsible and capable people who promoted it; a new concept of a needed product; good publicity; community support; and sound banking relationships. . .The corporation has continually strengthened'its position from year to;.jjefar'by retaining all net earnings'." The bank's confidence has been fully rewarded by a very pleasant relationship." New Product Line.s The Wellsville firm is looking ahead and hopes to add new product lines, which, in turn, will add to the firm's present 'employment of 10. Future possibilities lie in the fields of hydraulic power equipment and pneumatic products. "Since the acquisition of Hearth by the McCulloch organization," noted Joseph F. Sullivan, president of Greater Wellsville Industries, Inc., "there has been an impt'ove- me'rit' in "the product line 'which has given it a greater sales appeal, resulting in increased sales to date, and forecasted sales for the next three years indicate a substantial increase in the volume on the current manufactured product. . .The management and production staffs of the organization are of the highest quality availing themselves of the most modern managerial and production methods. A reflection of these methods is in the rate in inventory turnover — 11 times annually, a good barometer for a successful business." ; Future in Exporting It is in the export field that Mite-E-Lite's greatest future lies. Under its extensive national and world-wide ' distribut o r system, McCulloch has begun to substantially increase marketing and sales promotion of the Mite-E-Lite generators overseas. Exporting new comprises 10 per cent of Mite-E-Lite's total volume and this figure seems destined to rise. McCulloch plants and sales organizations are located in Rexdale, Canada; Mcchclen, . Belgium; Ilong Kong BCC; and Sydney, Australia. Interestingly enough, more Mite-E-Lite sales are made in Japan — a country famous for its import volume to the United States — than any other country except the United States itself. Wellsville is a shining ex' ample of what a community's faith in itself can accomplish. Sparked by its business leaders, Wellsville and McCulloch Mite-E-Lite, Inc. have combined to present a pleasant picture of concerted and dedicated community action at work in New York State. Wellsville Daily Reporter from Wellsville, New York · Page 4
__________________
|
#163
|
|||
|
|||
Here is McCulloch patent, I think
Thanks to lorinandone post, I got enough clues to find this patent. W. Kober assinged earlier patents to TKM electric. So, I search for a little while and found this.
http://patentimages.storage.googleap.../US3324321.pdf This patent assigned to Garret corp in LA. McCulloch HQ in LA. Dates fit filed 1962, granted 1967. I think W. Kober design enr for early and later mfgrs? Hope this helps, Chris
__________________
|
#164
|
||||
|
||||
Patent found
Nice work Chris. I looked but didn't find much.
Mikey ![]() Quote:
__________________
|
#165
|
||||
|
||||
PHP Code:
hello Tishatang I am glad that you have found a patent, and I'm glad you found another runway to clarify the secret of this generator. It seems that still has some patents before arriving the final form of the generator CULLOCH. Regard. lorinrandone
__________________
|
#166
|
|||
|
|||
Hi lorinrandone,
Well, thanks to you, one thing leads to another. That's what is great about this forum. Everyone gets a chance to contribute something. I see I misspelled your name. Sorry about that. I blame it on my old eyes. regards, chris
__________________
|
#167
|
|||
|
|||
Gerard Morin said to be taken ill in this discussion re energy
Roundtable discussion on alternative energy. Guy with long hair on left and another off screen both seen live demo with Gerard. One said Gerard teck needs spark gap to work. At about 45 min mark, mention was made Gerard got very sick and lady friend had bad stroke. Health effect from energy released or suppression, hmmm??
One People Round Table Jan 13 – 2015 | the one network Talked also about Keshe tech and Dollard. Guy off screen seems very knowledgeable. Sound sucks, skype crap. Evidently Keshe tech real with validations? you decide.
__________________
|
#168
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
The motor on the 1500 watt unit is junk but the generator portion is intact and can be driven with an electric motor. Both coils in the 1500 watt unit are aluminum ribbon and the output receptacles are twist lock design so it may have been strictly a 220 volt model. The 2000 watt unit is in perfect condition, has two copper coils and is dual voltage 110 with a 15 amp fuse and 220 with a 20 amp fuse. Original 'slow burn' fuses intact with an extra set unopened in a McCulloch package. I also have some original brochures/manuals. The flywheels/magnets are barium ferrite, there are two only, one on each side of the coils in attractive mode to each other. The polarity is likened unto a pie cut in half. One half of the pie is north, the other side is south. Which is to be expected for 60 cycle at 3600 rpm. A two pole generator, a very simple design....no doubt in my mind that it outputs a perfect sine wave. The McCulloch generator will operate my 12 volt battery charger, whereas the generic 1200 watt generator that I have, that employs brushes, will not operate my 12 volt 10 amp battery charger/transformer. So there is indeed a big difference when using a brush-less generator to power up transformers. Have been running a couple of preliminary tests with two Hammond dry type 10 Kva single phase 600 volt step down transformers. Nothing out of the ordinary yet to be seen. (Perhaps a higher voltage is necessary for results) When using the output from the McCulloch into the low voltage secondary and stepping up to the 600 volt, then across to the 600 volt windings of the other transformer, then down to the low voltage windings, there is a substantial drop in voltage, almost half of what would be there if 600 volts was being placed into the high voltage side. I am not in any way comparing this to Mr Morin's experiment as the transformer cores and windings he is using are no doubt a completely different style/design/setup etc. I do have to wonder however, if he is indeed getting 110 to 120 volts out of the 25 Kva transformer. (Edit.... upon further consideration, perhaps he does indeed drop half of his voltage, yet is still getting 110, as he is tapping into single phase 220... and not using the tank casing ground/neutral) If he has a substantial voltage drop across the transformers/windings, and I am not saying he does, then the heaters he has hooked up are not drawing their rated current. I am not sure what voltage would be required to turn the chop saw he is using, perhaps it will spin with a much lower voltage. Point is, he needs to prove his loading, if his voltage is not high enough going into the heaters, then he is not placing much of a load on the generator. The lower the voltage, the harder it is for the current to get through the 110 volt elements in the heaters. It is my hope that he soon comes forth with some loading data that will prove what he is claiming.
__________________
Last edited by Electronic; 01-18-2015 at 09:47 PM. |
#169
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
http://youtu.be/LhLf_XXYlNk?t=45m
Moderator speaks of Gerard getting very ill and his girlfriend having a stroke, that there are some negative effects from certain high frequencies at high voltages. Thanks for the patents references.. https://www.google.com/patents/US3320453 https://www.google.com/patents/US3310695 other patents by William Kober.. Regards, VIDBID
__________________
|
#170
|
||||
|
||||
hello again
I apologize for you but I expected that Matt makes a comment about replicating this invention. purposely Matt, I'm (cristian alba and Open Source pe talked some time ago) one of those who greatly respects your pertinent to board a Sujet mode. Also Mr. Vidbid, which opened this thread, drawings, some autocad anything? I personally think we should respect the privacy of each'm going to retire convinced that the conflict has gone. Aaa ... sorry Vidbid glad to read you again Regard lorin
__________________
|
#171
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
__________________
|
#172
|
||||
|
||||
![]() Quote:
Regards, VIDBID
__________________
|
#173
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
__________________
|
#174
|
|||
|
|||
hey, look. check out this. click the picture to zoom, im using firefox, make it full size, and read what this says on teh back
![]() or i mean just look at this just quick check where i seen this, 1hp motor is what it has on it. also, odd and i dont wantt o believe it as much, the crank is installed with the piston attached. head,cylinder is 1 piece. or something like that. .. head, cylinder, case. its a 2stroke, im pretty sure its a late 70's or early 80s model moped
__________________
Last edited by ldrancer; 01-23-2015 at 12:17 AM. |
#175
|
||||
|
||||
![]() ![]() I watched Gerard's newest video. Pretty cool. http://youtu.be/HJDretlCt8g He says, in describing the coils of the generator: Quote:
__________________
Regards, VIDBID |
#176
|
||||
|
||||
![]() ![]() From what I can tell, Morin is saying that you can use an old washer motor (like the one pictured above) instead of a McCulloch generator because the geometry is similar. For example: Samsung DC96-01218E WASHING MACHINE MOTOR ASSEMBLY In this video, a man is re-wiring one of these types of washer motors to be a DC generator. Fisher Paykel Washer Motor Samsung Washer Machine Motor (Similar to Fisher - Paykel)
__________________
Regards, VIDBID Last edited by vidbid; 01-31-2015 at 06:11 PM. |
#177
|
||||
|
||||
Finding patents
Quote:
Mikey
__________________
|
#178
|
||||
|
||||
![]() Quote:
Credit for posting the newest Morin video belongs to the person who posted the link in another thread. Please shout yourself out if you're that person. ![]() A video of the Fisher-Paykel-type washer motor shows it being re-wired to produce LVHC (Low Voltage High Current). However, I don't believe that is necessary. ![]() I believe that one could use a three-phase step-down transformer, instead, to obtained the LVHC condition.
__________________
Regards, VIDBID Last edited by vidbid; 01-31-2015 at 05:48 PM. |
#179
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
__________________
Regards, VIDBID |
#180
|
|||
|
|||
picked one of those washing machines yesterday from the local scrap metal guy for a few cents. Has the water pump too
![]()
__________________
Stew Art Media |
![]() |
Thread Tools | |
|
|
Please
consider supporting Energetic Forum with a voluntary monthly subscription. For one-time donations, please use the below button. |