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Old 11-27-2014, 01:44 AM
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Quanta Magnetics Kits & Experiments

Hello Everybody. How are you? I am fine.

I would like to share some of my experiences building Quanta Magnetics experimental kits as may be found here-
www.quantamagnetics.com

I have already built one of the older "Q2" kits which I then converted to a "Q3" and I am already about half way through building the new "G1".

I would love to share some of these experiments and experiences here including lots of build progress details and images.

Are there any objections?

Please forgive me for asking this question.
I ask because when recently I attempted to share these things on another forum (allegedly for the sharing of such things) I was immediately confronted with a LOT of negativity, criticism and even personal attacks against many of these good people including the inventors, the scientists, and even the different sciences such as all the source field investigations, quantum physics, and torsion field mathematics.
And attitudes that come across as: "I know it all and my mind is made up so don't confuse me with the facts!"...

SO, before I even share any of my experiences or images here, are there any objections to the creation of this thread for the sharing of these Quanta Magnetics replications?

If there is an objection; please let it be known otherwise implied consent applies.
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Hello,

I'd be interested to see what you have learned. I've seen the videos on YouTube for a while and they are interesting. Nice quality machines for sure.

From what little I know, they seems to be fancy Bedini style machines.
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Hi Scorch,

Welcome and please feel free to share as much as you want about your machines.

This forum is positive for the most part - we do have some scruffles here and there lol, but there's a good vibe here.
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Anyone who can afford several of those very expensive kits must be worth listening to! LOL It would also be interesting to know if you have any 'inside information' on that self-runner he built. I think the videos are still there. I think he made a single comment in one of them to the fact it was indeed self-running but was very cagey about it, and moved onto other projects shortly after.
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Hello Silver.

Yes, indeed, many very interesting videos including two that do appear to demonstrate possible self run operation.

Including this early machine which utilizes a combination of technologies including Howard Johnson style "ramps", Bedini Style BEMF, a "stargate motor", a high efficiency alternator and, of course, high end technology of ultra capacitors and neodymium magnets.

See: SELF CHARGING? - YouTube

And there is this-
G1 Load Test 2 - YouTube

System is operating on it's own, internal, power supply including ultra capacitors and a small battery pack in parallel with the caps on back of machine.

And, yes, it is a BEMF machine demonstrating an LED light powered by the BEMF recovery from the pulsed motor while the three phase alternator is charging the caps and battery that are powering the system and voltage rising...

But, of course, there is always the possibility there is more to the story such as the fact that watching batteries or caps charge on a video is boring so there is not enough length of video to show whether, or not, this increase in voltage is continuous or merely a recovery of capacitor electrolytic or battery electrolyte. Both batteries, and capacitors, due tend to 'recover' from load decrease or supplemental charging and a short video, showing a voltage increase, may not be a suitable demonstration.

So, in reality, I only gain knowledge through personal, hands on, experience.
Such as actually replicating the experiment by building, operating, and testing such things.

For example I thought the approach of the "Q2" device to operate as a 'peak sine wave' generator was pretty interesting. The device has a dual pair of SSRs that basically snap back and forth so that one pair 'clips' the sine wave peaks and puts power in the caps while the other pair provides a charging pulse back out. This is a very interesting approach but does seem to be a little overly complicated with six individual BEMF circuits for every pair of motor coils and a mechanical switch for the relays that was difficult to implement and copper strips that wear out quickly. In fact I ended up modifying and upgrading this switch assembly to remove the original contacts and replace them with appliance timer contacts to help preserve the life of the thin, copper, contacts on the rotor.

BUT, by the time I assembled this, QM was already working on something different called a "Q3". At which point I was more interested in this aspect of using a toroidal generator and no more annoying, mechanical, switching so I then converted the Q2 to a Q3. And did confirm some of the claims including very little RPM drop and very little, if any, current increase IN when toroidal generator putting over 400ma. OUT.

As well as the effects of a "charge accelerator" with three outputs of charging including BEMF from motor, output from toroidal generator, and pulsed generator output.

The Q3 utilizes something similar to the Q2 sine wave peak generator in that the disk generator is also controlled by a timed switching system to provide a powerful pulse from generator right after the pulsed motor 'fires'. The pulsed motor fires then, just as generator magnet is center or just passing the saturated generator coil, another relay 'fires' this sine wave peak into the battery.

See: Scorch's Quanta Magnetics Q3 Demonstration - YouTube

So, yes, some pretty interesting approaches to bypassing Lenz's law and providing a powerful pulsed DC to the battery.

But, then, I could see even more interesting designs in the G1 which also has BEMF as well as some other very interesting approaches such as a high efficiency alternator which is not actually directly coupled to the motor and additional magnetic, 'secondary', rotors behind the motor coils for even higher efficiency...

Kindest regards;

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PS: I hope these images look ok.
It appears there is a substantial forum restriction against images any larger than 1/4 the size of my 1920 x 1080 dpi display... at only 600 wide; these images basically fit over into one corner of my screen...

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I'd be interested to see what you have learned. I've seen the videos on YouTube for a while and they are interesting. Nice quality machines for sure.

From what little I know, they seems to be fancy Bedini style machines.
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Thank you, Aaron, for the welcome and is certainly an honor for you to be here.

The forum looks great compared to some others I have used.
Although I am wondering- Why are images restricted to only 600dpi wide in this modern age of large HD displays, 4+ terabyte drives, streaming video and high bandwidth providers?

And, yes, we all have our controversies and problems that we decide to have.
This is how we learn and evolve and is nice to be here among those actually interested in exploring these things that some may call 'pseudoscience'.... just as they called Albert Einstein's theories before they were generally accepted by the scientific community. . .

And I imagine some of you have probably seen this excellent example of how to debunk or 'bust' a device by NOT actually building, operating, or testing the device-
Mythbusters busted - YouTube

To error is merely human.
To REALLY screw it up; takes an MIT engineer or scientist...

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Yes, indeed, these kits are pricey but they are also pretty high quality.
And the fact is; I know many who spend much more on other pursuits such as model railroads, RC vehicles, or fur suits they may only use a few times per year...

So; in my reality, this is merely "just one of those hobbies".
And the fact I am very happy that some are actually providing 'ready' kits for a bench jockey, such as myself, to work with. Yay!

And, yes, I do believe there appears many good reasons why some are a little 'cagey' about making specific claims.
Including the fact that any claim of a system that may replace conventional energy systems is a threat to national security.

The US obviously has a military-industrial complex in place and one of the stated, known, primary duties of this system is to "protect our energy interests" both domestically and abroad. Therefore ANY system that may threaten the profit margins of said energy interests is, conceivably, a 'matter of national security'. So, yes, there are good reasons for being 'cagey' including the protection of national security.

Only a mere hint of something extraordinary then quickly move on...

One of these mysteries is how Zero Fossil Fuel was very excited and strongly pursuing the Muller Motor technology. To the point of producing a video in which he stated: "Something quite extraordinary happened . . . it resonated and the voltage spiked . . . once this baby hits 88 mph; you're going to see some serious stuff." . .

#285 Unlocking Muller Motor secrets - YouTube

This was well over three years ago and I don't think he's done anything more with this system since then and I have no idea why.
He disassembled the functioning prototype which had produced the "extraordinary" effect, sold the remaining parts, then moved on to many OTHER things....

His stated reason for abandoning the experiment he was so enthusiastic about and had produced an "extraordinary" effect: "life happened"...

This seems very strange to me and was very disappointing.
I was patiently waiting for him to pursue the larger motor he was building but, then, he just stopped.... I don't think he has done any else with that approach since this apparent discovery and "unlocking the secrets" and I have no idea why. But I do believe that the combination of offset number of magnets to coils to substantially reduce 'cogging' and Lenz and 'bias' magnets behind coils to change inductance and bloc wall does have great advantages that should be pursued more seriously.

But there does appear to be some mystery with RomeroUK, Zero Fossil Fuel, and others building this system that seem to just 'fade away' or start pursuing something completely different...

Then in response to this mystery: Romero, himself, wrote:
"Scorch-

Do you think it is possible to be controlled 'remotely' on what to do or what not to do, most of the time without even realizing?
Do you think that you can be disturbed, distracted or even killed without being in direct contact with someone looking to keep you silent?

If you play nice within the limits you might still have a chance if not you will start feeling bad, ill and blame some health condition you might have, in fact all you are under a strict control.

This is not fiction.

Regards,
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So, yes, definitely some caginess and mystery involving some of these cases.

Kindest regards;

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Anyone who can afford several of those very expensive kits must be worth listening to! LOL It would also be interesting to know if you have any 'inside information' on that self-runner he built. I think the videos are still there. I think he made a single comment in one of them to the fact it was indeed self-running but was very cagey about it, and moved onto other projects shortly after.
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Haha, RomeroUK sounds like a kindred-spirit - for a long time (after personal experiences) I have held a similar view. If people only knew how manikin-like they really are, they'd be a mass-rush to exit. But they wouldn't be allowed that 'out' either - there would be a sign-in-the-sky or some other such distraction to get them all back on track again! The Matrix is closer to reality than most could possibly imagine. I'd obviously read about the RomeroUK-saga but was not aware of that post, thanks for that.

The only thing I could add about 'FE-superstars' that you may not have heard about involves the patron-saint of FE Jean Louis Naudin (of JLN Labs). I was disappointed though not surprised when I heard Peter Lindemann reveal that he was checked out and found to be a front for a group that patents anything he finds interesting FE-wise, out of existence. Sad.

Thing is, all of these guys that have been 'outed' immediately come back as if nothing had happened! Not very sporting that, there should be at least a ritual-disemboweling or two, if only in the metaphorical sense. They've gone from being unknowing-manikins to knowing-stooges.
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Some assembly required...

Hello everybody.

I've seen no objections against the sharing of this experimental project so I will go ahead and get started and bring this forum up to speed.

I am building a Quanta Magnetics "G1" Gyroscopic Inertia Generator kit and I believe this may be a good place to share my experience with this experiment.
See product page here- G1

I am here merely to conduct this experiment with an open mind to build a device I have never seen before. And I have only witnessed a few very intriguing video *demonstrations. Although I do maintain continuing communications with the inventor who has always provided excellent support and personal service. Including some insight into the personal history and experiences of this inventor featured here-
Directory: Mike Kantz' Quanta Magnetics - PESWiki
*See-
PMMG4HYBRID - YouTube

My regular trade is: in-home Major Appliance Services.
My formal training is: Airframe and Powerplant Technician.
My contractor's web site is: www.rodsconctracts.com
My prefered social forum is: Userpage of scorch -- Fur Affinity [dot] net
Where you may discover many journals and images about my realities, my alter-egos, and other projects including these alternative energy experiments.

And one of my hobbies is exploring these alternative energy systems which, like some other hobbies such as model railroad or RC aircraft, can be very expensive.

In the past; most of the stuff I have built has been fabricated from raw materials and whatever information I could salvage from a grainy video or 'plans' found on the web. This, in itself, can get pretty expensive and I have actually sold an entire lot of old experiments on Ebay merely to make room in my limited work space and bring in some money to buy new materials or kits. Or very expensive in terms of time such as fabrication of my own coils including Litz windings.

In these particular fields of study there does not appear to be many decent experimental kits so I do have a high appreciation for Quanta Magnetics actually offering some of these types of kits. Which appear to be reasonably priced for a high quality design which is still being developed and supported including international sales.

In my reality; brand name printer ink typically sells for well over $5,000.00 per gallon and some of the people I know often spend this much, or more, on things with far less experimental value such as video games and/or furry *costume suits. So, in the reality of this context, I consider the Quanta Magnetic offers to be very fair and reasonable.

*See:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/anthrocon-2...pPhotoHuge.jpg
(The characters in this image represents anywhere from $2,000.00 to $9,000.00 for a full, custom, suit. So how much, in terms of these assets, may be represented in this snapshot of just one event featuring 1,346 unique characters?)

I already have experience building some other technologies such as the Bedini SSG and a few other things such as a modified Muller motor. And some experience building a Quanta Magnetics Q2 which I recently converted to a Q3 and have performed a couple preliminary tests with results that look really interesting including a toroidal generator section that suffers very little Lenz effect under a dead short load. As well as the affect of a 'charge accelerator' that rapidly charges the battery by way of a pulsed generator.

The disk generator section, itself, is being pulsed in a similar manner as the pulse motor but with a delay offset from the pulse motor so the generator pulse takes place after the pulse motor 'fires'.

This means that motor is actually "off'" while generator is "on" which is a very interesting setup in itself in that the inertial-kinetic energy is what drives the disk generator. And I did produce a preliminary video attempting to demonstrate some of these effects and all three charging outputs here- Scorch's Quanta Magnetics Q3 Demonstration - YouTube

Of course the challenge with producing a video is: Watching batteries charge is VERY boring and difficult to demonstrate in a few minutes of video.... So this first video was produced with batteries that were almost charged in an attempt to show charging activities within the limited time of the video. And the fact is I have actually been waiting for Quanta Magnetics to come out with a newer system.

Even back when I was working on the Q2 and providing a lot those details in the Muller forum; the inventor was already working on many other devices including the Q3, T1X and T2.

So, after I received the toroidal generator conversion kit to build the Q3, I only built the toroidal section while leaving the conventional alternator of the Q2 intact. I did a couple tests then set this project aside as I then considered converting it to a T1, then a T2, then possibly using it to built a G1 so it sat on the shelf for an extended period of time while I did other things and waited to see what else the inventor might come up with...

Upon release of the G1; I then decided to go ahead and just complete the conversion of the Q2 over to a Q3 which I just completed (back in October) after all this time. At which point I had already ordered the G1 and now the Q3 is merely on the back burner, AGAIN, while I concentrate on this new G1 experimental kit.

I have no concern for the negative.
Experience has taught me that when one seeks the negative; one will ALWAYS be able to find it.
Seek and ye shall find... so what's the point and where does it get me?
I prefer to merely seek the solutions and not make these conscious decisions to have a problem with some thing.

If you consciously decide to have a problem with some particular thing here then; how may I help you solve your chosen problem? What is the remedy, you so desire, to solve the problem you chose to have?

I am a problem solver, not problem seeker, here merely to build and share this experience and knowledge with others here. And any positive input is certainly appreciated including constructive criticism. I seek solutions. Not problems.

And here is the first image of this project. (see below)

This is the complete kit including the magnets, lots of extra wire, and three ultra capacitor banks rated at 350 Farad.
At this point the design has already been upgraded because in the inventor's previous videos; he is running on only two capacitor banks with a 'start up' lithium battery pack which has now been replaced with a third capacitor bank. And one of the assembly steps is to actually disassemble these capacitor banks to remove the discharge resistors which would be detrimental when attempting to achieve the highest possible efficiency and capacitor charging.

There does appear to be some unique characteristics of this experiment I have not seen before or not combined together in this manner.

Including these things I think I know about this G1 system-
-Three magnetic motor rotors to provide for magnetic flux on both sides of each coil pair which could be described as a "Tri Pole" motor. A feature I have never seen before in this type of system.
-A substantial inertial mass, stainless steel, flywheel storing kinetic energy. Another feature I have not seen in this type of pulse motor system.
-High efficiency, three phase, alternator. Another feature I have never tried installing on any of my past pulse motor projects.
-Flywheel and alternator is "open synchronized". There is no direct connection between the motor and the flywheel-alternator section. Which, yet again, I have never seen this before in any such system which may produce the effect of: Sudden heavy surge, or "spike", loads have very little effect on driver motor rpm.
-Alternator small enough to be mounted INSIDE the diameter of the flywheel resulting in mechanical leverage advantages for inertial-kinetic energy to alternator. And, I guess I'll say it again, haven't seen this in any pulse motor design before.
-Resonate system resonating in harmony with the Schumann resonance of our mother earth. Don't think I have any experience with this either although it may be possible to tune the Q3 to a resonate frequency.

So, yes, I'm really looking forward to analyzing this device and these new ideas I have never seen used together in this manner.

And if you also have any hands on experience with ANY Quanta Magnetics products; you are certainly welcome to share your experiences here.

And, also, be advised this is merely a hobby for me at this point and I do this at my own leisure.
While I do intend to provide regular progress reports for this experiment; it may be weeks or even months between reports just depending on my own priorities, moods, and attitudes. As well as other attitudes which may discourage me from sharing my stuff here such as spam and negativity.

Sometimes I am very driven and motivated to build stuff.
Most other times; I am very lazy and ignoring stuff I should be building...

That is all for now.

Kindest regards;

Scorch.

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Hello everybody.

When I began work with the pulse motor stators and did discover a couple minor issues in the process.
In fact I have already repaired the stators once, already, as it does appear that UPS managed to drop the kit somewhere along the way, at least once, and one coil on each stator had broken loose.
This was easily repaired with weldon #16 acrylic adhesive. When coils break loose; this results in a unique pattern, or "key", allowing the coil to simply be glued back into exactly the same place.

After removing the protective wrapper from the acrylic plates; I did discover that three of the coils were not actually lined up with the plates. :P
The plates have circles machined to accommodate the coils as well as a groove machined in each circle to accommodate the inside wire from the bobbin.
And whoever assembled these simply didn't do a very good job making sure the coils, and respective wires, were lined up with the grooves properly.

I don't think this is a performance or clearance issue but, sometimes, I am a little picky about such things...

So I simply used a hammer to knock out the three coils, machined in a 'side' groove to accommodate the improper alignment, then reinstalled the coils in a similar manner that I used with the first two that broke loose in shipping. So that solved the first minor issue.

I can understand why this might happen as it was assembled while protective acrylic wrap was still in place therefore no way to see this alignment during assembly.
It's a catch 22. Either leave wrap on to protect finish but possibly misalign coils. Or take wrap off for the assembly but possibly damage finish during assembly or shipping.

The second issue I discovered is that some of the fasteners were sticking out from the back of the stator plates resulting in a small 'bump'.
And, because these stator plates have rotors on both the inside and the outside, this rear face should be as smooth as possible and no obstructions so that rotor may be mounted as close as possible to the stator.
This was easily remedied in a few seconds with an angle grinder to smooth down the bumps and solved this second minor issue forthwith.

And, BTW, mine was one of the earlier shipments of this brand new product and the manufacture has already addressed these issues, implemented some changes, and is no longer an issue with the current product.

I did go a little outside the original design specification which calls for both stators to be connected together via two brass crimp connectors to be installed after stators assembled together in frame.
But I chose to actually solder these connections and provided separate pairs of leads for each stator.
This will be a more solid electrical connection and makes it much easier if experiment needs to be disassembled for whatever reason.

That is all for now.

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It appears this forum has substantial limitations on images and I was unable to include the last two images of this particular process so I had to create another reply just to include these last two images.

I am also very concerned there appears to be a meter indicating "Sum of all attachments owned by Scorch" (Currently at 2.59 MB).

This meter appears as a 'progress' bar that is already 3/4 'in the red'...

If this forum actually limits attachments 'owned' by any particular member to just a few MB and my ability to share these images and this build comes to a stop due to such limitations; then this forum may not be suitable for the sharing of this type of project...

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This is the three phase alternator stator.

No challenges building this sub-assembly and very straightforward.

Although I suggest that, as an educational-experimental device, the manufacturer should consider actually providing different color coils to go with the red, blue, and green coils of the drawings representing all three phases. The separate colors would look cool in the acrylic frame and make it easier to keep track of the phases and wiring.

I did stray away from the original specifications, just a little, and placed the jumper on the other side of the switches instead of having the wires reach around to the other side of the switches per the drawing.
The circuit is still the same and the switches will merely operate in the opposite direction to do the same things.

The switches provide for the capabilities of reconfiguring the three phase alternator, on the fly, so that a simple flip of the switch changes from "Delta" to "Star" configuration or any combination between.

That is all for now.

Hope to complete more soon.

Kindest regards.

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PS: I recently finished watching the new video featuring Aaron and Peter about John Bedini's latest book and found that to be very interesting.
Bedini SG - Advanced Book Release! Discussion on the Complete Handbook Series Bedini SSG - YouTube
It appears that JB was right all along and he did show us way back then.
Apparently I, and others, merely fail to get it until it's spelled out . . . one baby step at a time...
And most are not taking advantage of the mechanical output such as simply installing a high efficiency, three phase, alternator with phase modification switches. . .

JB's stuff does appear to work but there is a lot of 'fine tuning' here and there to obtain highest efficiencies and I am inclined to go back to some of those old experiments for further review.

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......If this forum actually limits attachments 'owned' by any particular member to just a few MB and my ability to share these images and this build comes to a stop due to such limitations; then this forum may not be suitable for the sharing of this type of project...

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I think that is indeed the case, at least I recall others mentioning this same limitation many times in the past. Although I'm sure Aaron will point out if I'm wrong about this. Better still, just PM him and ask!
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:32 PM
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You can us the insert image button on the reply page to post large pics.
I use photobucket, upload the pic then right click the pic and select "copy image location" then paste it into the insert image box
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Old 11-30-2014, 02:32 AM
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Allow me to be one of the first to welcome you, Scorch. Aaron is #1 on this forum, I'm glad you found us. It is standard procedure to post your pictures elsewhere and post links only. Also, Aaron is attempting to create an archive of experiences and results here, so voluminous pictures are somewhat out of place. The fact remains that this forum is well known and trolls are frequent posters here. My suggestion to you is to keep your posts factual and avoid claims that will bring out the worst from trolls and naysayers. On the other hand, do whatever you think is best.

Personally, I like what you have shown here and it seems reasonable. It looks like OU to me.
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:22 PM
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Hey Wayne and thank you for the welcome.

And, yes indeed, he who makes a claim does suffer the burden of proof and must also bring his desired remedy. Otherwise his claim is merely a frivolous claim upon which relief cannot be granted.

And, yes, this even applies to trolls and naysayers who might make claims such as: "That's impossible and it will NEVER work!" or "the video is fake" or "the price is to high so the offered kit is a ripoff". And can even get into personal attacks against researchers, scientists, experimenters and inventors... BUT, where is the proof of their claim such as the "video is fake"? Without proof of their claim; it's merely personal opinion based on limited facts and personal belief systems. And I have no idea why they come other than to appear as and act in the capacity of a "disinformation agent".

When I first wanted to share this experiment with others; I took it to the OU forum where, in the past, I had a pretty good experiences sharing these things.
But, then, when I created a new thread specifically for the sharing of Quanta Magnetic kits and experiments this actually BEGAN with lots of unverified claims from others claiming such things as 'fake video' or 'I know it will never work even though I never built, tested, or even seen it merely because my other experiments failed' or 'The inventor knows nothing about electronics' and etcetera and etcetera... a never ending stream of frivolous claims and personal attack spam that continues even after the original topic dies but the thread continues to fill with pages of whoever is trying to be king of that hill of spam...

Of course; I never actually claimed anything other than my intent to replicate the experiment.

If there is anything I know; it is that I do NOT know until I actually gain knowledge by way of personal, hands on, experiential knowledge.

I do believe that, yes, there should be an archive and this forum should act as an archive.
Of course if it relies on outside data storage, such as external links to images, then this archive may find that it's data is incomplete due to broken links in the future beyond the control of the admin here...

Yes; I can provide external image links through one of my own servers but do not understand why this should be necessary. I have been using a web host for over 20 years and it currently offers "unlimited disk storage and bandwidth" for basic web hosting at $4.95 per month. It used to be more like $9.95 per month for limited storage and bandwidth but as the internet evolved, bandwidth increased, and mega storage got cheaper and more competive, it's actually cheaper for more services. So I have no idea why an important archive might limit image storage to only a few MB per user... *shrugs*

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Allow me to be one of the first to welcome you, Scorch. Aaron is #1 on this forum, I'm glad you found us. It is standard procedure to post your pictures elsewhere and post links only. Also, Aaron is attempting to create an archive of experiences and results here, so voluminous pictures are somewhat out of place. The fact remains that this forum is well known and trolls are frequent posters here. My suggestion to you is to keep your posts factual and avoid claims that will bring out the worst from trolls and naysayers. On the other hand, do whatever you think is best.

Personally, I like what you have shown here and it seems reasonable. It looks like OU to me.
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Old 11-30-2014, 11:09 PM
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Primary Pulsed Motor Rotor

Hello everybody.

Just another build photo.
This is the pulse motor rotor consisting of two polycarbonate disks complete with stainless steel screws, magnet retainers, and magnets.

These are very powerful, N52, magnets rated at 115 pound pull and I must empathize with Willie E. Coyote every time I am working with magnets this powerful...
See: K&J Magnetics - Products

One must be VERY careful not to lose control of these magnets.
They must be handled with great respect and held firmly and care must be taken not to allow the magnet to be attracted to another magnet or attract, in, something unwanted from the work bench such as a wrench, screwdriver, hot soldering iron or a barrel of TNT...

It has also been my experience that the tolerances in these QM kits are pretty tight so I always make sure the shaft is installed in the disks and/or hubs before final tightening of hardware; otherwise parts may not line up properly.

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And it does appear there is a substantial limitation on images being shared here so, unless this changes, there is no point in resizing and sharing just the few images that fit within said limitation.

Here are the external image links. Do not know long these will be available-
http://rodscontracts.com/images/proj...G1_PMrotor.jpg
http://rodscontracts.com/images/proj...yoteMagnet.jpg
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Old 11-30-2014, 11:14 PM
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G1 Alternator Rotors

Hello all.

This is the three phase alternator rotors.

It does appear to be very nice engineering here including dual rotors that provide for magnetic flux on both sides of the coils for increased efficiency.
As compared to a more conventional alternator that might only have a single magnetic rotor inside a field winding surrounded with energy robbing iron cores, steel housings, hardware and etcetera.

Pretty straightforward assembly without any challenges other than the occasional plastic bur in the tapped screw holes.
Rotors are 6.375" diameter and appear to be acrylic.
Each rotor has 16 poles.
Magnets are-

16 pcs of Countersunk Magnets 1"L x 1/2"W x 1/8" Thick N42 - North face
K&J Magnetics - Products
16 pcs of Countersunk Magnets 1"L x 1/2"W x 1/8" Thick N42 - South face
K&J Magnetics - Products
Also sold as pairs-
K&J Magnetics - Products
And-
32 pcs of 1"L x 1/2"W x 1/8" Thick N42
K&J Magnetics - Products

Countersunk magnets are mounted with stainless steel screws then additional magnets merely sit on top of these mounted magnets and held in place their own magnetism.
Although, if I wanted to operate such an alternator at a high RPM, I would probably glue these 'face' magnets in place.

And, BTW, it really does help to have a magnetic pole identifier tool for building such things.
I used to merely use a magnet of known polarity but I am spoiled now that I have an electronic detector.

That is all for now.

Enjoy the experimentation, learning, and gaining of knowledge.

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G1 Pulse Motor Seconday Rotors

Assembling the next set of rotors-

I used a cheapo arbor press to press the magnets into the intermediate rotors which do appear to be polycarbonate and are same diameter as primary motor rotor at 11".
Magnets are 18 pcs of 1.75" Dia x 0.25" Thick N42
K&J Magnetics - Products

The manufacturer calls these "secondary" rotors but I call them "intermediate" rotors because there is-
1. Primary motor rotor.
2. Intermediate rotors. (qty. 3)
3. Final alternator rotors. (qty. 2)

I also stacked all the moving parts onto a scale including all rotors, magnets, shaft, hubs, timing disk, flywheels and hardware in order to get an idea of what the total rotational mass might be.

The total kinetic mass in this device is right around 27 pounds.

And, yes, all these rotors do tend to 'couple' with each other.
Had to use lots of Styrofoam spacers just to make sure they don't all lock together on the scale.

I also placed the motor and generator sections side by side for a size comparison.
It does appear the motor section is substantially larger than the alternator it will drive along with the flywheel.

That is all for now.

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I am glad to see you document the build and inform the rest of us. I intend to look at the pictures while the links are fresh and unbroken.

Perhaps Aaron will loosen the limits, but like sprocket said, it has been that way for a long time.
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G1- 3 Rotor Pulsed Motor Section

Hello everybody.

This reply pretty much brings us up to speed close to where I am in this build procedure-

This section was pretty straightforward although a little challenging.
I did discover that the through bolts for the primary rotor hubs didn't have quite enough threads for some reason so that the bolts were bottoming out on their threads instead of the washers and hub.

I haven't run into this issue on the previous Q3 build which, presumably, is the same rotor, bolts, washers and hubs.
It does appear that the distance is close enough that even a slight change from one batch of bolts to the next might be an issue such as a bolt manufacturer reducing the length of threads versus shoulder by just a little bit and the kit manufacturer (quanta magnetics) is already looking into this such as using bolts without shoulders.

The immediate solution is simply to add more washers or dye cut a few more threads in the bolts.
I decided not to bother with cutting more threads in these very hard stainless steel bolts, didn't have any stainless steel washers in this size, and I merely used some nylon washers from inventory.

The challenge with this section is that it all has to be assembled as a complete, layered, unit with end bracket, rotor, stator, another rotor, another stator then another rotor and all bolted together as a single unit while also making sure shaft is still free enough to move (for final adjustments) within four disks and two hubs with eight spacers in two different locations and eight hub bolts doing two different things where tightening one end loosens the other end and etcetera.....

That is all for now.

Kindest regards;

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I supposed it does come down to a question of WHY the limits?

If it's been like that for a long time; the assumption is that, way back then, there were limitations on bandwidth and web hosting, and this merely needs to be 'updated' or revised to bring it into the present.
When, today, we now have very large HD monitors, 4+ TB hard drives, streaming video, broadband providers and web hosting services offering unlimited data storage and bandwidth for $4.95 per month.

I believe it is worth investigating and updating.
Imagine the scenario where there is a thread detailing brand new, cutting, edge stuff but, then, those attempting to replicate are suddenly faced with the disappearance of the inventor as well as the images and documents that were NOT archived here...

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I am glad to see you document the build and inform the rest of us. I intend to look at the pictures while the links are fresh and unbroken.

Perhaps Aaron will loosen the limits, but like sprocket said, it has been that way for a long time.
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Old 12-02-2014, 05:22 PM
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Hello all. :-)

Completed some more G1 assembly.

This is the gyroscopic rotor assembly complete with magnets, bearings, and flywheel.

This is certainly a substantial kinetic mass for a machine that, in the *video, is only using about 500ma.
In fact the over all mass, including everything, is around 27 pounds of rotating hardware... subject to air resistance... spinning at 500+ RPM while only using .5 amps... powering a light... charging the reserve...

*see: G1 Load Test 2 - YouTube

Project image-
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...copicRotor.jpg

PS: I am now the proud, new, owner of a pair of 14 AH Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries just like these-
Amazon.com: Shorai LFX14L2-BS12 Extreme Rate Lithium Iron Powersports Battery: Automotive

I bought these batteries because it appears these are one of the latest, greatest, new products in battery technology. And because there was discussion in Aaron and Peter's video about how well these types of batteries work as very low impedance batteries well suited for SSG experiments such as these old experiments I am now inclined to re-investigate in conjunction with these new batteries and the release of JB's new "advanced" reference materials.

Revisting an old experiment by Scorch -- Fur Affinity [dot] net
Mechanical Oscillator Energizer - Fan conversion by Scorch -- Fur Affinity [dot] net
Back to basics by Scorch -- Fur Affinity [dot] net
Litz Wound-Seven output, new rotor, 1 battery charges 3. by Scorch -- Fur Affinity [dot] net

Most of my SSG experiments were conducted with "gel cell" batteries which, as it turns out, maybe one of the worst types of batteries to use for these ongoing experiments. Which were always very close to 100% efficiency but never manged to achieve that all elusive goal due to lack of knowledge, advanced tuning, alternative configurations and decent batteries.

Turns out these cheap versions of AGM batteries just do not hold up well under these conditions compared to wet cells or, better yet, LFP batteries.

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Old 12-02-2014, 05:38 PM
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Just some more project images.

Main assembly with the flywheel and inner alternator rotor installed-
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...torMounted.jpg

Alternator stator section installed-
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...torMounted.jpg

Completed alternator-
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...onComplete.jpg

And, at this point, the main mechanical assembly is now complete including clearance adjustments and everything rotating freely-
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...nsComplete.jpg

And, yes, despite there being substantial clearance between pulsed motor rotors and alternator, there is a very strong magnetic field that is keeping the alternator magnetically 'coupled' to the motor even though, mechanically speaking, there is no direct drive connection between the two. Alternator may come to a complete stop with very little or zero effect on motor RPM.

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Ultra Capacitor Modification

Hello everybody.

I recently managed to complete another assembly step for the reserve power pack which is part of this system.

These are off-the-shelf (Maxwell Technologies #BMOD 0058 E016 B02) ultra capacitor packs consisting of quantity six, 350 farad, ultra caps rated at 2.7 volts each and wired in series for a capacitor pack rated at 58 farad and 16.2 volts.
This is the system "reserve" power supply consisting of 3 of these packs (in parallel) for a total of 174 farads. (exact farad- 174.9999...)

These three capacitor banks do have internal 'bleed' resistors so, in the interest of achieving maximum efficiency, the quanta magnetics instructions are to remove all these bleed resistors by opening the cases, remove the sub-assemblies, and either cut or break off the resistors.

BTW: The instructions say to merely "slide out circuit board" BUT the tops of the caps are sealed in place so it does take a little effort and prying to work them loose and pull them out of the plastic housing.
So one should be careful not to crack the circuit board during this modification process.

http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...rsFromCaps.jpg

That is all for now.

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PS: I discovered these resistors may serve another purpose other than to merely bleed off excess energy in unused capacitors for safety.

It appears these resistors may be what is called a "passive balancing circuit". So, without these resistors in place, it might be wise to take measures to re-balance the capacitors once in awhile such as to completely drain and "flat line" the capacitor banks before recharging again.

And this should probably be done to each, individual, capacitor by removing the cover (after discharge) and place resistors or even jumpers across each cap to ensure they are all completely drained.
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Great build and thanks for sharing.

The emediapress.com site works for me. You should message Aaron as it's his web site I believe.
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See: SELF CHARGING? - YouTube


to answer the "?"


the answer is NO.
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Very interesting answer!

How did you come to this conclusion and take such a bold position regarding the old experiment? For which it is assumed that you have not actually seen or tested in person...

Interesting position and new controversy you have now brought to us regarding the photographic video evidence at 6:28* in which the test instrument is displaying present 'charge' is only at 7.85vdc which, as soon as system is powered and starts up, begins to quickly rise and continues to rise to well over 20vdc and also accompanied by a corresponding increase in RPM as system reserve voltage increases or, otherwise, 'self charges' per this photographic evidence. Detailing a well built, intricate, system using no less than four different alternative energy inventions and three different energy conversions in a single device. With multiple Howard Johnson style magnetic ramps, Bedini style pulsed DC and BEMF, high efficiency axial flux alternator, Stargate motor modifications, Kinetic-Inertial Energy, Magnetism, AC and DC electrical energies and etcetera.

*See: SELF CHARGING? - YouTube

Have you carefully reviewed the entire video presentation and fully comprehended all the explanations and details presented including those leading up to this particular device, specific configuration, experiment and video documentation?
Have you visited the laboratory in person, investigated the test results, or conducted any of your own testing of the device you decided to have a problem with and bring this controversy to us?
Are you claiming the presentation is false or fraud and, if yes, on what grounds?

What is the cause, nature, and proof of your claim?

In the interest of resolving this controversy (you brought and now suffer burden of proof) to the satisfaction of all actually paying attention here-

I conditionally accept your claim the correct answer is "no" upon proof of your claim.

Proof such as verifiable test results by independent testing of the original device and experiment. Furthermore; should there be a failure to prove your claim then it would certainly appear that your claim is false or, otherwise, a frivolous claim distracting all of us from the current experiment.

Please provide the proof of your claim to solve the problem you decided to have with said facts and photographic evidence resulting in this controversy you have now brought to us and, of course, the burden of proof you have now brought upon yourself.

Would you like to change or withdraw your position in order to immediately enlighten ALL of us (including you) from this new burden you brought?

I see no evidence or record the correct answer is "no" and I believe no such evidence or record exists.

I DO see photographic evidence that appears to indicate the answer actually is in fact: Yes.

Are there any objections supported by verifiable facts capable of rebutting these photographic evidence-facts and obvious conclusion?

Otherwise allow your silence, including failure to provide proof of claim, to be your consent there is no proof of your claim of: "no".
qui tacet consentire videtur

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You're welcome and thank you for the compliment.
Positive support is ALWAYS appreciated.

And, yes, it appears the site is now back up and running and thank you for the update.

Although I have now asked Aaron a question about attachments including a reply to his message here as well as a private message days ago but, still, no response. The assumption is that he is busy or distracted and will, eventually, respond.

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Great build and thanks for sharing.

The emediapress.com site works for me. You should message Aaron as it's his web site I believe.
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