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Old 02-08-2015, 12:39 AM
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Rebuilding alternator...

Hello all.

I just received notice (yesterday) there was an error in the instructions for the alternator section that basically has the coils wired backwards. . .

Original instructions have the inside winding of each coil set connected to the coil shorting switches and this is how I built it.
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...StatorRear.jpg

But the new instructions indicate it should actually be the outside winding of each coil set connected to these switches with the inside windings connected to the output posts. . .

Not sure what the significance might be in terms of AC alternator performance but, of course, this alternator is being used in an 'unconventional' manner so this may actually be critical.
And definitely important if I am attempting to REPLICATE the machine in the videos.

This is going to be a pain in the tail to fix because it will require tear down of the system to remove, disassemble, and rebuild the alternator including making longer wires where they have already been cut to fit or replacing all coils to just build it again from the ground up... then... reassemble everything...

At which point, HOPEFULLY, I can actually run it some more and test a thing or two.

That is all for now.

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Documentation Errors

Hi Scorch:
This is exactly why I will not order another kit from Quanta until you are finished with the present kit. I emailed to quanta magnetics many times with problems of understanding what he meant on many pages, and was told each time to "just follow the layout". That was it. Fortunately I am like you in the fact that I did figure it out, but for the money he gets for these kits, it should be absolutely error free and easy to follow instructions. Your re-work here is going to be a *****. You do excellent work and look forward to the finished product, along with photos and messages of how and what you did along the way.
Thanks, Joe.
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Alternator Stator Rebuilt

2/12/15

Hello all.

I finally got around to completing some more work today.
This is the alternator stator built again.

It wasn't really that difficult because this machine IS an experimental device engineered to be pretty easy to just unbolt and unscrew things to make changes. It's just time consuming.

The original instructions had the outside windings of the coils connected to the output posts and the coil shorting switches connected to the inside windings of the coils.

This has been changed and updated to simply reverse this.
And IF I had actually followed the directions precisely; this would have been a pretty simple change to merely swap the wires.

BUT, because I had taken a shortcut and routed the switch wires straight across instead down then back up from the wire channel, this meant the wires were to short to simply swap them...
See-
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...StatorRear.jpg

But still not really that big of a deal as I simply installed regular, insulated, leads as might be found in a more commercially designed motor, generator, or alternator.
I merely used some wire from a cat 5 cable which provided different color wires that are actually the same gauge and close to the same colors in the instructions.

See-
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...atorStator.jpg

Of course, in my mind and limited knowledge of things such as these alternative energy systems or quantum physics for that matter, I have NO IDEA why this configuration might make any difference in performance.

In my mind; this is simply an alternator.
It is ALTERNATING current and I wouldn't think it makes any difference but, then again, this is not a conventional system and conventional alternators do not have switches specifically designed to short out one or more sets of coils...

And I'm not entirely sure that shorting is all the switches actually do.
With all three switches tied together; there may be a 'feedback' between coil sets depending on switch configuration.

That is all for now.

Kindest regards;

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PS: Here are images of the first set of coils rebuilt-
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...Alternator.jpg
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http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...ternatorHD.jpg
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Old 02-21-2015, 07:45 PM
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Voltage Regulator - Lithium Balancer

2/22/15

Hello everybody.

Just a quick update.

I have been in regular contact with Mike regarding some of the experiments I wish to replicate and trying to get as much information as possible in the interest of replicating the effects as seen in the "G1 load test 2" video.

One very interesting thing revealed to me is that he did write (among some other interesting things) "I often forget things that I would rather have shown in a video because of video length, or just plain forgetfulness." Which is understandable in consideration of how much information may actually be available to convey for a short video.

And, thus, it turns out that the lithium battery pack used in conjunction with the three ultra capacitor banks was not merely connected in a parallel circuit with the capacitors as I had assumed... There is that WORD again. . .

NEVER assume ANYTHING just because you can't see it in the video!

His lithium battery pack, originally rated at around 30v and 4ah is actually very old and typically only maintains about 19v but this is ok because it really only needs to maintain capacitor bank at around 16v.

But, if the battery is at 19-20 volts, I do not want to simply connect this source to the very large, low resistance, load of the huge capacitor bank as this would over-load the battery and smoke the wires...

So; in comes a voltage regulator such as this nice unit with on-board display that can show either in or output voltage.
See:
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...eRegulator.jpg

And here is how he had it mounted on his system during the video.
See:
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...20Balancer.JPG

And when he was feeding the alternator output back to the input, this was actually to the input of the regulator or simply charging the lithium pack as opposed to attempting to charge the low resistance cap bank which can be very large load on the alternator without any type of regulation...

So, YES, it certainly does help to ask questions and thank you to Mike for providing this image of the back of your device that was not shown in the video.

At this point; my system is re-assembled, have tried running it some more and have actually been able to reproduce the very interesting resonant or harmonic sound tones similar that heard in the beginning of this video-

Gyroscopic Inertia Pulse Motor Generator DEMO - 3 new inventions - one machine - YouTube

And I am waiting for some lithium batteries to build a 22.2v 4ah battery pack to closely replicate what was used in the load test video.

That is all for now and hope to actually produce a new video sometime over the next 2-3 weeks.

Kindest regards and have fun experimenting.

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Old 02-22-2015, 04:31 AM
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Huh? What..is the pollarity of this?

So... I honestly expected and ASSuMEd I would actually get 7.2v from these battery holders. . .

Red connected to black...
Jumpers at each end....
Both springs in one end for a parallel use.....
Molded battery pictorial depicts series use......



uh.... which way should I put the batteries in and is a picture worth a thousand words?

http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...Pollarity_.jpg

Or, in this case, quantity six 'extra versatile'?? holders worth at least $9.98 delivered for 'multi use'??? and.... ready to cut and splice to make it work in series per its own diagram..........

I know what to do!
Do need to ensure holder is working correctly and test it.
Just need to install a couple 6,000ma batteries, per the pictorial, to see if the holder can take the heat.
And if it fails; photograph the evidence and send it back to Amazon... and also request new batteries. . .

Then buy a six pack with the refund. Yes, THAT will do.

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Old 02-24-2015, 05:26 PM
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A note about batteries

I discovered that some of the batteries I have on hand are NOT as they claim to be.

For example: I have some Li-Ion 18650 batteries with labels that CLAIM 6000ma.
But it has been revealed to me there are many fake batteries with fake brand names and fake ratings.

For example; I had bought some of these for another use several months ago-
4pcs 18650 6000mAh 3 7V Li ion Rechargeable Battery US Plug Battery AC Charger | eBay

Four batteries rated at 6000mah with charger for only $16.99 delivered which seem to work ok in that application but I never bothered to investigate whether or not it's even possible to get that high of a rating out of that size package.

Later on, as I am now considering what type of battery pack to use to replicate this experiment, Mike indicated his old Li-Ion battery pack was originally rated at 30 volts and 4000mah but is so old that it normally only holds about 19 volts.

So I figured I would just buy these other 18650 "UltraFire" cells rated at 4000mah and build a 22v battery pack.
8pcs 18650 4000mAh 3 7V Li ion BRC Rechargeable Battery Flashlight Torch USA | eBay

But then I noticed that some cells recharge faster than others even though they all came from the same order.

Then I noticed that the "6000mah." batteries actually weight LESS than the 4000mah batteries and there is even inconsistencies between the 4000mah. batteries in terms of weight with some cells at 45 grams and others at 42 grams...

These things are usually machine made. They SHOULD have a fairly consistent mass from one cell to the next.

Oh, and BTW, the batteries claiming to be 6000mah. actually weigh in at only 37 grams..... Far LESS than the "brand name" batteries rated at 4000mah.

And, as it turns out, there are many counterfeits and many methods to fake these batteries such as 're-wrapping' them with different skins and some may actually be 'recycled' batteries of various brands and conditions that have been re-wrapped and sold as "new"...

And here are some details about these things-

How to know fake 18650 batteries? - YouTube

Fake Ultrafire 18650 battery warning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfK6B8yDTY8

And, yes, battery brands ALL have different ratings and this is NOT a reliable way to compare.

And some are even labeled as having internal protection when, in fact, they are NOT protected....

So, I have decided to go up a couple steps in quality and purchase a battery pack from a US company that has similar ratings and features as what was used in the original video.

I intend to use an LFP battery pack rated at 22.4v 3000mah. like this-
http://www.batteryspace.com/Custom-L...rate-2Rx7.aspx

Which does have built in circuit and charging protections with separate charging input leads much like the battery pack that Mike used and pictured here-
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...20Balancer.JPG

That is all for now and waiting for parts again....

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Old 02-25-2015, 04:02 AM
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Q3 Charge Accelerator for sale.

Hello everybody.

I finally decided to just go ahead sell the Q3 as I am becoming more and more interested in the capabilities of the G1 and where this experiment may eventually lead. And this Q3 is just collecting dust in the corner so time to clear that out in order to make room for new stuff.

And, yes, I know I could combine the two devices into a much grander experiment such as a G1 coupled with the Toroidal generator or even to couple the entirety of both systems together BUT I would rather just sell the Q3 so I can have room and funds to experiment with even bigger and better things.

So, for any of you who might be interested in such things; here is a complete Q3 for a lot LESS than you might spend in terms of ALL costs and labor I have put into this 'hobby'.

Quanta Magnetics Q2 Q3 Charge Accelerator Motor Generator Experimental Device | eBay

Kindest regards and have fun experimenting as I am sure somebody with a little more knowledge of Tesla style high voltage amplification systems could probably do a lot more with this device than I have done.

Which was merely to build it, improve it a little here and there, conduct a few experiments then decide I want a G1.
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Rewiring alternator again and LFP battery pack

Hello all.

I completed some more work on the G1 this weekend.

Turns out the assembly instructions for the alternator wiring still wasn't quite right even after the last correction....

This alternator and 'phase switches' have always been wired (per the pictorial wiring diagram in the old and new instructions) to actually short out different phases of the three phase alternator.
See:
Original-
http://rodscontracts.com/images/proj...StatorRear.jpg
Corrected based on revised instructions-
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...atorStator.jpg

And I had never really questioned this as I am aware that in certain designs there actually are some advantages to "coil shorting". And, in fact I have mentioned this coil shorting in this forum as well as some email messages to Quanta Magnetics including links to these forum entries as well as an actual schematic that I created (based on the pictorial diagrams) that I attached to one of these messages and there had never been any indication from quanta magnetics this coil shorting was not correct.

And, sometime later, Quanta Magnetics did issue a revised assembly page that detailed a coil reversal to simply swap wires from the inside of the coils with the outside. This didn't actually make a lot of sense to me since this is an AC source and this should not make any difference but, then again I am merely a bench jockey working with a brand new invention, trying to follow instructions and attempt to replicate the original experiment detailed in this video-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKw7c0UjYkM

But ever since I got this up and running; there has been no discernible advantage to actually turning one of these switches on which would short that phase and bog the whole system down which was far different than the effects that had been demonstrated in the videos when he flipped the switches.

So I finally contacted the manufacturer and asked the specific question regarding whether or not he had intended for the alternator phase switches to short the coils. The answer: No.

The switches are supposed to simply change the phases around to be 'parallel' or 'series' or any combination thereof simply to adjust voltage and current depending what you want to do with it.

So... I had to partially disassemble the device again so that I could pull the switch assembly out far enough to work on it and make the correction.

See:
http://rodscontracts.com/images/proj...gainBefore.jpg
http://rodscontracts.com/images/proj...AgainAfter.jpg

Please forgive these images that are a little out of focus due to my laziness and using the zoom for a close up instead actually moving the camera closer. Oh well. *shrugs*

On the other hand, the new battery pack did arrive so I went ahead and slapped together a control panel with regulator and both input and output control switches.
http://rodscontracts.com/images/proj...rInstalled.jpg

Panel is not quite square due to my failure to pay attention when I was hot forming the plastic. Bleh.

Oh well; it's functional and is more or less a temporary part that is simply stuck on with mounting tape anyway.

So... and once again; I THINK it's ready to run, tune and test and possibly replicate the effect in the video now that all the corrections are complete, the battery is similar ratings and does have the regulator that was NOT clearly shown in the video.

That is all for now.

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Food for thought. . .

Hello all.

I don't know if anybody is even paying attention to this thread but I am now experiencing some serious doubts regarding: What is this G1 experiment actually good for? What, if anything can it prove?

My intention is to build a demonstration unit that CLEARLY demonstrates something unique and unusual such as a resonant self charging system, that I might be able to show to others and try to convince them that the pursuit of alternative energy is a noble and worthwhile pursuit.

And I THOUGHT I had seen such a system being demonstrated in this video-
G1 Load Test 2 - YouTube

Video begins with a statement that voltage displayed is capacitor voltage and capacitor is also connected to a battery and capacitor voltage is rising because alternator output is charging the capacitor.... And his commentary is that he intends to replace the battery with more capacitors and conduct the same test again. (The implication is that battery is merely in parallel with the capacitors and the statement is that battery can be replaced with more capacitors.)

He then disconnects the alternator from the capacitor/battery and capacitor/battery starts to discharge as it continues to power motor.

He demonstrates how the alternator can be used to enhance the power to the LED light which is connected to the BEMF output from the pulse motor.

All is good and very interesting at this point.

Then he reconnects alternator output to the capacitor/battery which begins to charge back up again. Great!

At this point I, a true believer that such things are possible am pretty impressed and I am now sold on the idea I could use this device to show others these possibilities.

So I bought the system and I have been building it for a awhile now and have worked all the kinks out so it is now running correctly.

I then started asking Mike some specific replication questions so I could be sure I am conducting the experiment properly including some questions about the battery pack such as ratings. All because I desperately desire to show something unique to some of my friends and acquaintances.

It is at this point he reveals to me that battery was not merely connected in parallel with the capacitor and he is actually using a voltage regulator...

And he did reveal this image to me labeled as 'lithium balancer'-
http://rodscontracts.com/images/proj...20Balancer.JPG

Which of course totally throws a monkey wrench into HOW the effect on the video may NOT be what it appears to be!

This because when there is a higher voltage battery being used to charge the capacitor bank through a voltage regulator, the demonstrated EFFECT can actually be accomplished without the entire system...

Same effect can be accomplished merely with a regulated battery and capacitor powering a load.

Place a load on the cap bank which is bigger than the regulated power supply and cap voltage goes down. Remove the load or add a supplemental source to the regulated power supply and cap voltage starts going back up.

It's that simple. This is NOT anything unique or unusual that was demonstrated in the video and no reason for me to repeat this in my own video because I have nothing to show beyond this simple effect...

In fact, at 5:47 into the video this is actually revealed and I failed to notice this before I bought this kit.
See: https://youtu.be/QKw7c0UjYkM?t=5m47s

At this point in the video he has reconnected the alternator to the light and he demonstrates "food for thought" in which he can then kill power to the motor and remaining inertia continues powering light...

BUT and here is the rub- Capacitor bank voltage is still continuing to rise.
Continuing to rise NOT because alternator is connected because it is NOT. It is connected to the light....
Continuing to rise BECAUSE the battery powered regulated power supply is still charging the cap bank.... Same effect is occurring with main system OFF and alternator NOT connected to cap bank.

I have been working VERY hard and have spent a LOT of money to produce something unique I might be to demonstrate to others and have YET to achieve this goal..

I do not know where to go from here...
Yes; I can NOW replicate the same effect in the video but as of right now, I have NOTHING to show beyond the ability of a small alternator to supplement a regulated power supply already charging a capacitor bank... and this does NOT demonstrate anything unusual such as a self charging system that I THOUGHT I had bought and not really sure how I feel about it at this point.

This because I know he is working VERY hard to continue improving these things and there appears to be some very interesting things coming from this company in the future but I STILL have nothing special to show my friends beyond a really cool experiment that does not appear to prove much of anything in it's current configuration.

So I guess I am just 'along for the ride' and we are ALL still waiting for the 'next step'...

It has now been six months since he talked about conducting the same test with just capacitors. And if this is ever done and IF a voltage regulator is used; then I would CERTAINLY want to see BOTH voltages before and after the regulator...

I don't think I have anything else to report at this point unless the inventor can show me something else to do with this machine.

For examples-
I have no idea what good it might be to have alternator magnetically coupled instead of directly coupled. Under what conditions would this be an advantage that makes it worth the extra trouble and expense to do this?

And is there any way to actually achieve a resonance as implied in the original video here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8VdsWn-Q9Y

I have certainly been able to replicate that same sound. But not sure if this is anything beyond a mere harmonic of the system versus a system taking advantage of a resonate condition as implied by these videos.

Please show me how performance is increased when system actually achieves a resonant condition... That is IF it can actually do this...

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Quanta Magnetics G1 Load Test 2.1

Hello all.

I went ahead and conducted a basic load test of volts and amps in versus volts and amps out and did produce a video document of this test here-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXQl2wE2DF0

At 1100ma. IN versus only 300ma. OUT; I am not seeing anything extraordinary at this point and not sure if, maybe I am doing something wrong or something is not built right.

Do not know where to go from here and any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

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Quanta Magnetics G1 Load Test 2.2

Hello all.

I just produced another short video detailing some freestyle testing of the G1 experimental device which is still running with just three timing magnets so motor is only pulsing 3 out of a possible 6 times per revolution in this particular configuration.

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD8aHuB55sI

I did not conduct any specific tuning under these different loads and configurations I used for this video. This was merely just some quick, 'freestyle' tests without any additional tuning for each test configuration.

Next goal - Order a center zero ammeter, install it between the power supply and system and do my best to configure and fine tune the system until meter reads in the positive (charging) range or I eventually give up and start asking a lot of questions regarding the true nature of the original offer and disclosure.

I intend to do my best to discover whether or not this system has any practical use and any support or suggestions from anybody including quanta magnetics is certainly appreciated including the possibilities of performance and efficiency enhancements such as the addition of a toroidal generator which could still be installed on the shaft output of this device. As well as other possibilities such as higher voltage windings in the alternator or reconfiguration of alternator to separate the outputs, capacitor discharge systems which work well with LFP batteries and etcetera...

That is all for now and currently waiting for parts, free time to experiment, and suggestions.

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Wrapping it up

Hello all.

I am not sure if anybody is actually paying any attention to this thread.

At this point I have built the device and I really do desire to replicate the affect that was demonstrated in Mike's "G1 Load Test #2" video that APPEARED to show a self looped system charging it's own capacitor/battery power supply.

BUT when I started asking him questions about the battery such as voltage and amp hour rating; he revealed to me that he had used a voltage regulator.

At which point I felt that I had been misled and/or betrayed because this totally throws a monkey wrench into the experiment because a higher voltage battery and regulator is quite capable of recharging the cap bank without the system running at all. And this was NOT revealed in the original video that enticed me to attempt a replication at substantial cost.

But I continued working despite this breach of our trust and hoping that the system would still self loop and actually charge the regulated power supply battery. This appears to be a very efficient system operating with some VERY powerful magnets so there is still an appearance that it MIGHT be capable of something unique...

But there was a certain point when I was still not getting anywhere and still discovering design or drawing errors (such as alternator switches configured to short out the coils) at which point I started asking Mike some pretty hard questions regarding the true nature of his original experiment and our trust.

At which point he decided to become offended, concealed his video then blamed me for his choice to conceal the evidence...

And I am the first to admit that, sometimes my writings do tend to piss off some people (depending on attitude) and maybe I could have been more diplomatic about it because I do tend to just write in 'brutally honest' truth language. This is merely me or what I have become over the years of studying REAL truths, trusts, contracts and laws.

After-all; it's JUST business. *shrugs*

Then he indicated that he had NOT used a regulator for that specific video in a later message....

At which point I thought maybe I should apologize and try to restore our trust...

But, then I realized; wait a minute! He was very specific about this when I had been asking him those questions regarding these things!

And here is the exact interchange in a later message AFTER he had already advised me he used a regulator so is the SECOND message indicating that this component WAS used-

Hey Rod,

I'll answer these questions the best I can.

a.) I'm pretty sure it was before the regulator.

b.) Anything above 16.2 will work fine.

c.) Yes, please share. I often forget things that I would rather have shown in a video because of video length, or just plain forgetfulness.

Your demonstrations are very good, so please keep me posted.

Mike

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:41 AM, <scorch@rodscontracts.com> wrote:

Hello Mike; how are you? I am fine.

You recently revealed to me a photograph showing a voltage regulator was used between your old 4ah lithium battery pack and the UC and how this was mounted on the 'back' of the G1 therefore not clearly shown in the video which would have required that you rotate the heavy device around or move camera to other side of bench.

G1 Experiment Replication Question #3

a. In the interest of attempting to replicate the experiment and effects in the load test #2 video, and when you connected the alternator charging output to recharge UC, was this alternator output connected directly to the very large (low resistance) load of the UC and after voltage regulator?
Or was it connected indirectly to the UC and BEFORE the regulator merely to recharge the much smaller load of the old battery pack?

This is very relevant because the UC bank is a very large, low resistance load that really 'pulls' the alternator down as compared to merely recharging this much smaller battery pack load. And there really SHOULD be a regulator somewhere such as the battery pack output or on the alternator output. Which is an experiment I intend to conduct with a capacitor and voltage regulator on the alternator output.

b. You indicated this was a very old battery pack originally rated at around 30v but is only holding about 19v. In the interest of attempting to replicate the experiment; I will be using new 18560 Li-Ion cells rated at 3.7v and 4ah. BUT should I go ahead and build an 8 cell pack at 29.6 volts or would you recommend a lower voltage such as a 6 cell pack at 22.2v or something even lower such as 5 cells at 18.5v?

c. Keeping in mind I intend to photograph and share my battery pack and regulator configuration with a group of other experimenters anyway; may I share your detail photograph with others merely for reference of what was not clear in the video and relevant to these experiments?

Please respond.
Kindest regards;
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Mike is probably going to be mad that I shared this interchange BUT, at this point we no longer have any friendly trust when he changes his story and it does appear that he did NOT show us a self looped system. Or I MIGHT have been enticed either by mistake or intentionally.

It's all UNKNOWN at this point due to failures to communicate and keep facts straight...

This is an easy question to answer and very easy to restore our trust.
If this system can be self looped then, by all means; show us how to do it!
If it cannot and the video was misleading; the trust can also be restored by actually ADMITTING the mistake(s) (versus sidestepping the issues).

It's that simple.

Otherwise I (and others) may have been enticed to make a major purchase based on PARTIAL video information and we all remain in the dark of concealment.

And I would certainly NOT be under any obligation to honor any old promises due to this breach of trust. For example; I had agreed to NOT share my own schematic diagram of this system in the interest of our friendship and trust and I certainly do WANT him to keep building his cool stuff.

BUT unless something new is suddenly revealed to me then I am no longer obligated to hide this information (per his request) and I may eventually reveal this schematic document of my own creation as I am proud that I was actually able to create this reference drawing.

Which, BTW; already needs to be updated again now that I reconfigured the on-board ammeter today ...

So I am pretty much done with this experiment unless new information becomes available through additional experimentation or outside information comes in.

I have still been producing some videos featuring this device-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCtgiriJxIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wrtuMVcFpY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rEoI9gAfyY

But no self looping yet and I am rapidly losing interest in this experiment in favor of other pursuits such as HHO systems as I have now detailed on my social media forum here-
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If by some miracle I actually manage to get the G1 to self loop; I will certainly let you guys know.

Otherwise this may be my last entry in this thread and you might want to just keep an eye on my youtube page.

That is all for now.
Kindest regards and good luck with your own pursuits and experiments.

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PS: Do not give Mike a hard time as I do believe he is in this for the same honorable reasons as the rest of us. And I do forgive him as we ALL make mistakes and I do not intend to cause any harm and I would LOVE for him to produce something new and even more interesting than the G1. But he better show me some specifications before I consider purchasing anymore 'experiments' of unknown capabilities, goals or questionable videos.

Please forgive my personal beliefs and opinions.
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I identify with your frustration

Hi Scorch,

You seem very frustrated. I have been there myself. I do think your efforts have given you a very fine piece of test equipment, but I understand that the supplier has not been completely open and trustworthy. For what its worth, you have my deepest condolences.

I have in mind some experiments I would like to see you do, data I would like to see collected and some particular result points that could be shared in a particular way. Such things are hard to come by and I would trust you to report accurately. However, you seem ready to move on to playing with HHO.

I was very interested to read your comments and watch your video, and I did. It seems that it happens over and over again that someone makes big claims and then they get cold feet or greedy. In the first case, they don't have the spine to stand against the intimidation of established forces. In the second, they think they are going to be rich if they keep the "secret ingredients" away from the very people who could help them the most.

I know nothing about the organization that sold you the bill of goods, but the machine does look nice and apparently does not vibrate unacceptably. That is a plus. To bad, though, that they don't want to support their customer. Apparently they are not to be trusted.

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Thank you for your support.

It does appear that Quanta Magnetics may not be responding after Mike decided to take offense with some of the things I wrote and even though I am still here making an honest attempt to see if this machine is actually capable of a self looped condition as depicted in his video; there has been no response to the last 3-4 email I sent regarding these issues.

I still give Mike the benefit of doubt because he is working on other projects that are demanding his full attention, my messages are not always 'diplomatic' and he may be frustrated or just in a bad mood himself after trying to work with a 'problem customer' such as myself.

This may be what it comes down to.
Does this company know how to handle 'problem customers' who are very frustrated and seeking answers to hard questions?

In my opinion; it is NOT good customer service to just get upset and ignore customers then hide the video the customers may have been relying on for their purchase decisions or reference. Which also adds to my own frustration because I had trusted this company to remain open and up front with these things therefore I never bothered to download and save the video...

Doesn't matter if the errors where made or the video contained mistakes. An honest man simply admits to the mistake and even corrects the mistake. He does not HIDE from the mistake by concealing evidence.

So the ball is in his court. It all just depends on where he wants to go from here.

And I am going to assume he is merely going somewhere ELSE with his experiments and devices.
Keep an eye on his pages as I suspect that he will continue to move forward and build something else that makes the G1 obsolete anyway...

And yes, any suggestions you might have would certainly be appreciated.
I am not giving up yet. I was just getting STARTED when I ran into these issues of Mike becoming offended by some of the things I wrote and NOT answering questions regarding the experiment or even providing conflicting answers which is violation of our trust and business friendship.

So even if I do manage to get this system to self loop; it appears this will be accomplished WITHOUT the help of the company that sold the kit. In other words the sales approach is: "Here is our kit. We think it MIGHT do something interesting. It is an experimental or educational kit but we can't tell you what the goal is or what it might teach you".

So stay tuned and we'll see what happens as I continue to perform some testing and produce some videos BUT the initial results are NOT very good and it appears that Mike may have decided to NOT communicate.

I will not be sending him any more messages as there are already 3-4 answered messages in his box and I have no problem accepting his silent consent.
And it appears this is one of the things he decided to be offended about when I suggested that he actually respond to some of the questions and criticism being offered by other youtube users versus merely silently consenting to everything anybody says about his stuff.

In my reality; silence does imply consent and I meant no harm by way of suggesting that he actually respond to some of the questions and criticisms being offered.
But he seems to have decided to have a problem with these types of forums including this energetic forum, the over-unity forum and his own chosen forum of youtube.
And I do not fully comprehend why he decided to have this problem with me or with his own forum then concealed the video from our view...

To each; his own, I guess and mere speculation regarding another man's motives. *shrugs*

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You seem very frustrated. I have been there myself. I do think your efforts have given you a very fine piece of test equipment, but I understand that the supplier has not been completely open and trustworthy. For what its worth, you have my deepest condolences.

I have in mind some experiments I would like to see you do, data I would like to see collected and some particular result points that could be shared in a particular way. Such things are hard to come by and I would trust you to report accurately. However, you seem ready to move on to playing with HHO.

I was very interested to read your comments and watch your video, and I did. It seems that it happens over and over again that someone makes big claims and then they get cold feet or greedy. In the first case, they don't have the spine to stand against the intimidation of established forces. In the second, they think they are going to be rich if they keep the "secret ingredients" away from the very people who could help them the most.

I know nothing about the organization that sold you the bill of goods, but the machine does look nice and apparently does not vibrate unacceptably. That is a plus. To bad, though, that they don't want to support their customer. Apparently they are not to be trusted.

Best of luck in your future endeavors.
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G1 load test video 1.2

Hello all.

I suppose the title for this video should actually be "G1 NO load testing"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS0VaBaNQeg

This is just a short demonstration of no load RPM and alternator performance. Which I personally don't think looks very good with system using around 2.5 amps JUST to maintain 1,000 RPM under no load at all... This does not seem like very good performance for a pulsed motor and I may need some diagnostic assistance.

And if there is some big secret to improving these numbers; I would certainly appreciate the input since I am not getting any support from Quanta Magnetics which has not responded to my last 3-4 email messages as I continue my honest attempts to see if this device is actually good for anything.

The way it is right now with all it's vibration and poor performance numbers; this is NOT something I would want to bring to show to my family and friends which is what I originally bought it for.

I bought this device based on a video that portrayed this device operating in a self looped configuration while it was charging it's own power supply and powering an LED array. Which is something that I desperately wish to demonstrate to others including annoying skeptics.

But that video has now disappeared and I have yet to come anywhere CLOSE to being able to operate in a self looped configuration which does place me in a very difficult and embarrassing position with me holding what amounts to be a very expensive boat anchor until and IF this device can actually operate in a self looped mode.

Or do SOMETHING interesting such as operate in a resonate condition which is ANOTHER reason I bought this device because the manufacturer videos do imply that this is a resonant system.

BUT I have YET to actually witness this system operating in a resonant condition and I pray the manufacture either helps me fix this or steps up to the plate and buys it back...

So, any help would certainly be appreciated as I don't really want to sell it IF it can do actually operate in a self looped mode as was portrayed in the video here- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKw7c0UjYkM

And YES youtube; I KNOW the video is shaky!
The entire operation and experiment appears to be VERY shaky.

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G1 load test video 1.3

Just another load test in my honest attempt to replicate what I originally saw in a Quanta Magnetics video titled "G1 Load Test #2" which portrayed this system operating in a self looped configuration to light an LED array while also recharging its own capacitor and battery power supply.

See: G1 Load Test 1.3 - YouTube

In this configuration; I tried using a voltage regulator to help 'balance' alternator output voltage to the desired input voltage to be looped back into the system.

But no major discoveries at this point as this attempt to self loop appears to actually increase motor load and current draw significantly even though I am trying to keep power supply and system voltages and RPM close to what was portrayed in the original video here-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKw7c0UjYkM

I think I actually got better results without this voltage regulation...

Any suggestions that might help get this system to operate in the manner that enticed me to actually purchase this system would certainly be appreciated.

Otherwise and if this is not EVER going to work as advertised; I think I should get my money back because any claim of "no warranty" is certainly not applicable if device was misrepresented.

I do not know if it was misrepresented. I just know that, so far I have NOT been to able REPLICATE what was represented to me in a video that is now concealed from our view...

And I feel like this may be approaching insanity by doing the same things over and over while expecting a different result each time.

If this keeps up like this, I will be inclined to eventually give up and pray for at least a partial return of the funds somehow so I can pursue my new interest in HHO systems. And any offers will certainly be considered.

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I have now changed my ebay offer for the Q3 over to an actual auction ending in ten days and still has free shipping.

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Q3 relisted due to errors

Hello all.

Just an update on the Q3 auction which had to be ended then relisted due to an error in Ebay shipping options in which the Ebay web form did allow "Global Shipping Program" and "USPS" to be selected even though neither one of these options are actually compatible with a 110 pound package...

Here is the new listing-
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Hi Scorch:

Like minds think alike. I also have conducted a LOT of tests like you, many are the same that you ran. Same results. I too believe we got screwed on these devices from Mike. At some time if you ever consider getting a lawyer, let me know. He totally mis-represented what this thing along with the Q3 will do. I have never been able to replicate any test that he did with the results he showed. Very disappointing. Both of us have put in a great deal of time and money on the products from Quanta Magnetics. Its obvious that Mike is very intelligent, but to use it just to screw people out of money is very bad. A total waste of his God given talents. You have my personal email if you want to contact me.
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Class action?

Thank you for the offer but I have no interest in pursuing any legal claim at this time. And if I did; I would merely follow through with an administrative remedy process and obtain a judgement without need for an attorney.

Of course if there are a LOT of people with similar claim then maybe that could be a class action.

I actually was able to replicate one of the impressive effects that was demonstrated with the Q3 in which the toroidal generator can be loaded or even shorted with very little or no change in system RPM and it does seem to have some 'charge accelerator' properties.

BUT I did set the G3 aside in favor of the much more impressive effect that he demonstrated in "G1 load test #2" video. In which G1 system was demonstrated as being 'self looped' to power an LED from the BEMF PLUS system voltage was RISING from 13vdc to 13.1, 13.2...

This was a VERY impressive demonstration and I bought a G1 SPECIFICALLY to REPLICATE that effect...

Only to discover MUCH later the lithium battery pack he mentioned in the video (and he said would be replaced with another capacitor) was NOT merely wired in parallel with the capacitor power supply. It was set up to operate as a portable regulated power supply.

Which of course, in itself is quite capable of causing system voltage to rise and it does appear that not only did I spend a lot of money to replicate an effect that was false and misleading; this endeavor has wasted ALL of our time and placed me in a VERY difficult position after I have already defended Mike on the OU forum and all those people there as well.
See: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator

And as soon as I discovered this fact (hidden regulated power supply) I realized that my trust in this company had been totally betrayed and broken.

And when I started asking the hard questions about these things; he decided to become 'offended' and is now concealing the video evidence from our view...

Then I subsequently discovered that an Itallian has had similar experiences with not being able to replicate the effect in the video and who also received negative responses in Mike's email and who also produced his own G1 video-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmzVd4d130c

And now here you are talking about similar experiences at which point we now have three witnesses and I do wonder how many more are there?

I brought this experiment to the forums to share the results of the replication but have not been able to replicate what was presented in his video.

And when it comes to open source forums such as this; Mike's position is this-

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"Forums are a joke. A handful of non-productive trolls who have all the answers to the secrets of the universe will crawl out from under rocks and worm their way into thread discussions to spread their disinformative "opinions" based on their own personal agendas. I have explained to many others that you will make yourself extremely vulnerable if you make the slightest claim outside of traditional education on any forum. Even John Bedini noted to never say "free energy" or "overunity" unless you enjoy being attacked from all sides. Those individuals (including MileThick) mean absolutely zero to anyone, should be ignored, and there is no reason for feeling a need to prove anything to them."
End Quote.

This was the response I got from Mike when I merely suggested that he actually respond to some of the points being made in youtube comments...

And rumor has it that he also written similar or even identical responses to others therefore not surprising if you also report similar.

Not much I can do at this point other than try to recoup some funds by selling the equipment for pennies on the dollar then move to something I am actually more familiar with such as the internal combustion engine and alternative fuels such as the new paradigm ideas presented by Dr. Moray King.
See: Video - Moray King 2014 Tesla Tech Conference -- Scorch&#39;s Journal -- Fur Affinity [dot] net
Video - Moray King on Physics Paradigms -- Scorch&#39;s Journal -- Fur Affinity [dot] net
Older message with LOTS of references-
Vids & Docs - Scientific review of plasmoid powered engines. -- Scorch&#39;s Journal -- Fur Affinity [dot] net

This is what I am attempting to replicate now-
http://pesn.com/2010/12/25/9501743_A...g_in_elevator/

And the G1 is merely sitting in the corner and will likely be sold or parted out sometime in the future...

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Like minds think alike. I also have conducted a LOT of tests like you, many are the same that you ran. Same results. I too believe we got screwed on these devices from Mike. At some time if you ever consider getting a lawyer, let me know. He totally mis-represented what this thing along with the Q3 will do. I have never been able to replicate any test that he did with the results he showed. Very disappointing. Both of us have put in a great deal of time and money on the products from Quanta Magnetics. Its obvious that Mike is very intelligent, but to use it just to screw people out of money is very bad. A total waste of his God given talents. You have my personal email if you want to contact me.
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Hello all.

So... I built it. I tested it and just like many other things I've had over the years; I eventually lost interest in it as I continue to walk this path for discovery of even greater things.

For those who might be interested in such cool looking things, here is your opportunity to grab it for a fraction of the cost and time it would require for you to buy and build it.
And would certainly make a very interesting conversation piece next to all the other parts, equipment and devices on the shelves of your lab or workshop.

And who knows? Might be a collector's item some day!

Quanta Magnetics G1 Gyro Inertia Genset with Regenerative 3 Phase and Upgrades | eBay

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So sorry to see that this thread came to a sad end. Much admiration though, for the author's factual and honest reporting. This illustrates what this forum should be about even in the absence of success. Thank you, Scorch!
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