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med.3012: Have a look at this youtube video: Don Smith's over unity extended Tesla Bi filar Coil by Electric Celery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC29rHxx6Es

I may be wrong, but beginning at the 5:18 mark, I believe I see a picture of your device which he uses in his demonstration.

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Thanks so much for pointing me to that video , my connection is very slow at this moment so i can't watch streaming video, but i will manage to download it full.

someone have to be aware that sometimes fake video are posted in YouTube so anyone replicate the device see it don't work , the objective is to say OU is a fake silly things, i can't judge this video until tomorrow, i have to see it attentively.

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med.3012: Have a look at this youtube video: Don Smith's over unity extended Tesla Bi filar Coil by Electric Celery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC29rHxx6Es

I may be wrong, but beginning at the 5:18 mark, I believe I see a picture of your device which he uses in his demonstration.

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sorry i can't wait until tomorrow to tell it's not a professional video, i was hoped for something interesting, i can do the same experiment and show several ampere but correct measure in this device have to be done when the high frequency high voltage power is converted into either DC or main frequency, so the instrument is adapted for such measure..

he assign his work to himself but no problem about that, i just wish him to join us for more serious work, we have to respect other people goodness and share only accurate work.
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Hi Med,

I saw that video a while back and some of his others. He is making some big claims but was waiting a while to post it till you had a chance to watch it for the reasons you just said. I sent you PM.

Thanks for your really cool idea about using colpitts oscillator like a poor mans variable frequency sig gen. Using a radio ferrite slug that pulls out, I was pleasantly supprised about the frequency range that could be got without having to change the caps at all. So far Ive wound two inductors and seen from 0.6 MHz - 3.2 MHz. on the same circuit. Im using larger caps than you did, but will build one for higher frequency range later. I dont own a scope at the moment so I am blissfully ignorant of what happens to the waveform when changing the ratio of L and C in the tank so radically, but its only for driving transformers so hopefully its OK.

I am still interesred in the E-TBC and are following your work with interest, I can see that you are not one to let lifes little obstacles slow you down.

In your circuit I see where the E-TBC is attached but Im not sure if you have tagged it on to the existing tank or if you have used it to replace the existing tank but showed it that way so we would know where to hook the wires ?? If thats the case Im guessing it finds its own frequency.

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Hi Lotec,

happy to see you words in this thread, yes you have to remove the tank circuit completely and use the E-TBC as shown, the mixed E-TBC work also in the same circuit, by the way it's not a pure Colpitts circuit even it appear to be in a single E-TBC but in the mixed E-TBC it appear to be a Hartley ! Colpitts and Hartley are slightly different circuit but the E-TBC is adaptable to these situation which is another prove that the magnetism ( coil ) and electricity ( capacitor ) are two side of the same thing!

when i began this work i aimed Allah (GOD) mercy, our work is nothing beside what the creator made in this universe... when understanding how things are related to each other we will be near the right destination that we created for !

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Hello everyone,

i just finished some test using the mixed E-TBC on two toroid core so each side was wound in each toroidal, then measured the voltage and current from the output L2 coil using the following schematic ( was discussed previously )




the output power from this coil was a pure active electric energy, the test was done in a hurry, so more test have to be done for better accuracy.

edit: there is some tricks using this kind of L2 coil will be discussed later, again for better accuracy
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Hi John, Hi everyone!

yesterday i forget to stop the oscillator circuit , so the battery run out i have to recharge it again, i just tested some small load on L2 using a full wave diode bridge and it work ( the load was light emitting diode ) i know it's a very small load but at least it worked in this low level voltage setup, the scope graph from L2 show that L2 coil wasn't loaded too much when using this small load.

the good new is that Lenz's effect problem is solved now , so the mixed E-TBC will oscillate as expected.
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experiment details

the following drawing show the experiment details , i use two toroidal core because the oscillator was working in a low voltage value ( 12v BAT plus low power Colpitts/Hartley oscillator )



if the output voltage is very low just open the blue star junction ( or the green junction but not both at the same time !) and connect it with the end of the other coil but you have to close the ends of blue star coil , this is the trick in this arrangement.

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the following drawing show the experiment details , i use two toroidal core because the oscillator was working in a low voltage value ( 12v BAT plus low power Colpitts/Hartley oscillator )
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Hi Med and other.

There is a thread I tried to start on overunity.com time ago ,related to so called "one way transformer"
I have build two different types, and tested and I was quite surprised that a small load didn't much reflect on the consumption. Here is the thread. It didn't work for me with incandescent bulbs, so I stopped experimenting as I do not consider using LED bulbs as a real load Maybe I might give it a try together with the E-TBC.
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BTW, I do not exactly understand how is it with A,B X in you schematic. What exactly do you connect there? (are you using one or two frequencies?, x ap on the ground? ...)

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Hi John, Hi everyone!

i agree with you LED are not a real load, but i was curious about the output in its high frequency state, if it's active power it will light the LED without problem in this low voltage situation, if it was reactive electric power the LED will remain mat, this is a good advancement at least what i can see.

the Mixed E-TBC is another kind of E-TBC, sometimes i see it as a single E-TBC that exist in two places ( magnetism and electricity ) at the same time and this is what give this new device its power, you could try it and see the real active electric energy without trouble, one of the biggest problem involved in the single E-TBC is the reactive power, sometimes i call it ghost power, the power is there but if you try to catch it you have nothing, working with standing waves is really difficult because the system must be managed in a very specific way or it will not work!!.

this is why i decided to work with the mixed E-TBC even thought it's just a derivative of the original E-TBC.
A B and X are the position of tank circuit in Colpitts/Hartley oscillator, the original tank circuit will be removed and replaced by the mixed E-TBC or the single E-TBC as the following previously posted pic :





i was in doubt about the possibility of using the same oscillator with the mixed E-TBC because the E-TBC is faraway from the mixed one, if you start from X point in the single E-TBC you will end up in A B position meaning it's a Colpitts circuit where the capacitor is divided into two part.




in the mixed E-TBC the dynamic capacitor X1 or X2 are outside the system so if you start from X point you will end up with the total capacitor ! amazingly the dynamic capacitor will be visibly only with the both side together!

finally the mixed E-TBC look like the Hartley oscillator and it work even the magnetic field in the two side are opposite each other but the complicated relationship between magnetism and electricity make this device work as Hartley.


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Hi Med.

With respect to your first picture I have tested similar before without the E-TBC . Just a grounded pickup coil on the base - simple Brovin's Kacher, and it does charge the output capacitor pretty fast. And more faster when I used the diode from kolector and the ground on the other side of the capacitor. It also doesn't consume any amps. I'll try your setup with E-TBC later today.
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With respect to your first picture I have tested similar before without the E-TBC . Just a grounded pickup coil on the base - simple Brovin's Kacher, and it does charge the output capacitor pretty fast. And more faster when I used the diode from kolector and the ground on the other side of the capacitor. It also doesn't consume any amps. I'll try your setup with E-TBC later today.

Hi John,

charging the capacitors banks will tell a lots about the power extracted using this device, i didn't tested charging the capacitors with this setup yet but i will manage to do it very soon , thanks for the information about your experience with this kind of pickup coils, this give the hope to see something interesting because the mixed E-TBC is already capable to supply active power in high speed .

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With respect to your first picture I have tested similar before without the E-TBC . Just a grounded pickup coil on the base - simple Brovin's Kacher, and it does charge the output capacitor pretty fast. And more faster when I used the diode from kolector and the ground on the other side of the capacitor. It also doesn't consume any amps. I'll try your setup with E-TBC later today.

HI John ! HI everyone!

the purpose of the proposed circuit is to avoid Lenz's law, and let the pick up work without disturbing L1, i did some test and they show that the E-TBC is very weak in closed loop because it's already an open loop based on the equilibrium between magnetism and electricity...
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in the mixed E-TBC the dynamic capacitor X1 or X2 are outside the system so if you start from X point you will end up with the total capacitor ! amazingly the dynamic capacitor will be visibly only with the both side together!
i think it a good idea to talk a little more about the mixed E-TBC, what is the real idea behind it , why it's not a dual E-TBC , but rather a mixed one.


the device is composed from two parts, one is the black E-TBC the other is the red E-TBC, i tell it a black E-TBC to make the idea clear even it's not an E-TBC anymore, there is two drawing have to be seeing together just to show how the pattern behind the single E-TBC is there but in a more complicated design :

the first drawing is the red E-TBC



in the red side we see a b magnetic side and c d electric side , in the same drawing we see what happen if the black wire is extended to be outside the system, the connection between c and d is still secured but the pattern behind the single E-TBC is violated because the dotted black wire form another coil and we know it must be a simple connection. Now if we extend the red wire to be outside the black side we got another similar pattern ... now take a look at the second drawing.


the second is the black E-TBC



in this side ( the red one ) the same pattern exist but in opposite manner.. this give the opportunity to achieve voltage in one side and current in the other side without problem.

the idea behind the single E-TBC is to achieve the capacitor when forming the coil, but in the mixed E-TBC we achieve the coil when forming the capacitor !!



the importance of this design is to see the both side exist together at the same time, x1 with x2 is no longer a one dimensional capacitor, but it's a coil formed as a capacitor, in this design both side exist together at the same time .
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Hi everyone !

i tested the proposed circuit in low voltage environment but the results wasn't enough to fill the needs, then i moved to high voltage using a mixed E-TBC suitable for high voltage, i had the same problem when trying to charge the capacitor banks because the conserved electrical energy wasn't proportional to time, i tested charging a 12v battery and it took 30 min to achieve 12v voltage but when trying to load it with 24w 12v light bulb the voltage drooped almost instantaneously meaning the battery wasn't in charge state when i watched the voltage increase in it !!!

using the one way winding in L2 coil has no importance in the test i did but the arrangement shown in the next drawing is the best, now it seem i am missing something again so comments are welcome !


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Sorry I wasn't here for long. Too many thinks to do.
Just would like to know your opinion on the spirals shape of E-TBC. Can the E-TBC be winded as not perfect hand make spirals with variable distances. Or should it be as much close to some definition as possible? I just think to print the bottom and top spiraled cap (the slots) so the capacitor can for the exact shape I need. When electrons are energised they follow some circular/curve trajectory. May be could be good to get it as close to that curve as possible? - Jost some thought.
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Sorry I wasn't here for long. Too many thinks to do.
Just would like to know your opinion on the spirals shape of E-TBC. Can the E-TBC be winded as not perfect hand make spirals with variable distances. Or should it be as much close to some definition as possible? I just think to print the bottom and top spiraled cap (the slots) so the capacitor can for the exact shape I need. When electrons are energised they follow some circular/curve trajectory. May be could be good to get it as close to that curve as possible? - Jost some thought.

Hi John, Hi everyone !


the same here , i am busy with thinking too, i will manage to use the earth connection to my system, this point is very important but we forget to do this to our resonance energy device! i think this is a must for this device to be born ...

spiral shape of E-TBC will work the same as the E-TBC but don't expect too much amplification because you will take only one layer from the induced electric field circles... in the normal ordinary E-TBC there is a different power concentration zones due to the different coil diameter when you form you E-TBC, this characteristic will be lesser in your arrangement.


variable distance will affect the system electromagnetic feedback inside your coil , you could test what is the best arrangement, start will lesser distance and vary it.

can you draw your arrangement so i could understand it more or just give me more explanation if possible .
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I am busy somehow , so my progress is slow .

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I found lately a little circuit to find the resonance for coils. It runs under windows and with a soundcard.
Maybe it can help to optimize your coils.
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I found lately a little circuit to find the resonance for coils. It runs under windows and with a soundcard.
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Thanks so much for the nice post , this is really very helpful :-)

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what i am going to post today is a bit far from the thread headline, but i still see the following information as something very important ... the idea came to my mind as a sparkle, i give a lots of attention to something like that because it appeared without any efforts from me ...

in my early thinking about the geometry of the E-TBC something enter my mind like a flash , it's a Koran verse talk about animals that used in ancient times to carry the human and its load, this is the only source of power in that days...
the Holly Koran is an old book, it's more than 1400 years from now, the verse is:

And [He created] the horses, mules and donkeys for you to ride and [as] adornment. And He creates that which you do not know.


the verse came in descending order and as a holy book it must spoke to humanity in all ages including our modern civilization, in the end of verse Allah talk about something we do not know but the descending order appear to be a hidden signal to something very small indeed ... my mind see it as a geometric ( there is a hidden triangle.... ) signal to what we call ambient background energy or ZPE ...

the full texts can be found in the following link :


Surat An-Nahl - The Noble Qur'an - ?????? ??????
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The evanescent wave coupling with all of it's components furthers the understanding of the true nature of resonance with respect to the aether.
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About the geometry.
Magnetism looks like a bit different. Its more a push/pull force. A Magnet is build from 2 poles and a neutral point in the middle, magnetic fields are about the same.
Interacting or creating energy with an magnet and an inductor like a coil is more a 2-way or 1-way thing as something with (with all respect, even i am atheist) the 3 holy forces.
And yes, its better to think at this situations more in terms of waves, resonance and harmonies
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About the geometry.
Magnetism looks like a bit different. Its more a push/pull force. A Magnet is build from 2 poles and a neutral point in the middle, magnetic fields are about the same.
Interacting or creating energy with an magnet and an inductor like a coil is more a 2-way or 1-way thing as something with (with all respect, even i am atheist) the 3 holy forces.
And yes, its better to think at this situations more in terms of waves, resonance and harmonies

Thank you for your post , my previous post is an interval, something like a rest but maybe someone else will benefit from that information.

if you put an air balloon in the water you will expect it to be compressed due to the fact the pressure of water is higher than the pressure of the air inside the balloon, right ?

the same thing apply to the whole visible universe, the pressure of the non-existence is much higher than the pressure of the space-time field ... logically the visible universe must be diminished but in reality it's known in astronomy science the universe is expanding ...

sometimes the most difficult theories in sciences can be solved with simple geometry , finally the whole universe is composed from a very few particle if not just one !



in the holly Koran you can read this :

(41) It is Allah Who sustains the heavens and the earth, lest they cease (to function): and if they should fail, there is none - not one - can sustain them thereafter: Verily He is Most Forbearing, Oft-Forgiving.

full text is here :

Holy Qur'an: Arabic with parallel English translation

edit : the English translation came with the word "cease" but in Arabic the word used is disappear...

i don't mean to open an argument place here but it's just an interval
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Hello to All,

I want to share some useful info regarding the way to harvest the power from the E-TBC compared to Tesla patent number 685,957 named APPARATUS FOR UTILIZATION OF RADIANT ENERGY.

first of all let's start with the main drawing in the above patent:



Tesla recommended serial connection to be made between his insulated conducting body ( the receiver in blue ) and the capacitor as shown in the above photo, this is because of the reversibility of radiant energy compared to hot ordinary electricity while hot electricity carry the voltage in parallel and flow the current in serial , cold electricity carry the voltage in serial and flow the current in parallel :





in his patent he described his insulated body as follow : the insulated plate or conducting-body should present as large a surface as practicable to the rays or streams of matter ...... furthermore, the surface should be clean and preferably highly polished or amalgamated.

after all this we still miss another important step let's Tesla clarify this : The second terminal or armature of the condenser ( capacitor ) maybe connected to one of the poles of a battery or other source of electricity or to any conducting body later Tesla preferred using the ground as a source of negative electricity.

in the same patent he talked about the capability of radiant energy to discharge any electrified conductor at any rate! after that he talked about the slow rate charging his capacitor so ( in my point of view ) he started thinking about using radiant energy in it's fresh state ( alternating state).

there are two patents have to be reviewed at the same time even they are almost similar to each other the above and this patent number 685,958.
in these two patents Tesla predicted the amount of electricity from this design to be proportional to the capacitor C,the potential and the frequency!!!! this is similar to the power from the E-TBC.

finally i will propose the following circuit to be favoured according Tesla terminology, but in this schematic we will benefit from the negative alternation from radiant energy using diodes. the E-TBC look like a large diameter wire where it push radiant energy in all direction -(i personally watched this ) so the best way to harvest this power is to use aluminium foils inside the coil like the following drawing :




parallel diodes is better, fast recovery are the best.
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can you please indicate which graphics i used that made by you ? if so we could delete them if you like in another publication, my work was free and open for the public, if you like it's possible to give the credit for you :

sometimes it's not possible to know the source of drawing, if you indicate a copyright stamp you can refer me to the original drawing, so it's possible to put your drawing : the following drawing is the only one that i wasn't able to know its source, in the same document that i published in Patrick Kelly website there is a photo of kids, the attention for that is to clear the idea in a wide range of reader regardless of the background they have.


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can you please indicate which graphics i used that made by you ? if so we could delete them if you like in another publication, my work was free and open for the public, if you like it's possible to give the credit for you :

sometimes it's not possible to know the source of drawing, if you indicate a copyright stamp you can refer me to the original drawing, so it's possible to put your drawing : the following drawing is the only one that i wasn't able to know its source, in the same document that i published in Patrick Kelly website there is a photo of kids, the attention for that is to clear the idea in a wide range of reader regardless of the background they have.


Hi med.3012
I was speaking about that graphic that you've just posted. It was made by me. No problem about that. I was surprised when I've seen it and that's good, not bad. It's not the first time that there are some graphics made by me in some documents or website about free energy. You don't need to modify it, but I think you've to made a small correction about some data that I think it's wrong.
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I've been reading some information in Don Smith documents and I've been checking that the information I posted is partially wrong.

Volts -> CounterClockWise
Amps -> ClockWise

In the picture I posted the direction of rotation is wrong.

If you like I can make some small pictures with new information I've been watching these years. For example, the virtual photons are very elastic and they obey to Hooke's Law.
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Old 05-28-2015, 07:25 PM
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HI Magnethos,

thanks so much for your gentility, my work is still in progress and for sure i have made errors .

thanks once again :-)
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Old 05-28-2015, 07:27 PM
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HI Magnethos,

thanks so much for your gentility, my work is still in progress and for sure i have made errors .

thanks once again :-)
No, don't worry. The error was made by me in the graphic. I'm trying to find the original file which I don't know if I deleted it, and modify with the correct information.

After that I can discuss with you some new information I know at the moment because that graphics was made maybe 3 years ago.
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