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Hi Med. What Magnetostrictive material are you testing? I have some "black sand" - magnetite, at home - I have it ready for different project- but maybe I can cover my L2 wires with that? I have also some 6m of mumetal wire at home. But the diameter of this wire is only 1mm.

Gene: Thanks for link to ebay. I think I will order some HV caps. I surely did try to use the HV cap with the E-TBC (0.1uF microwave cap) - in parallel and in series. Yes it did increase the spark -I guess it was 2-3x larger, but the spark frequency dropped down. Also interesting noise came out of the flyback transformer.

Hi John,

sorry for the late reply, i saw your post in this morning but being busy to reply you , the material i used is galvanized softness no coated wires, it's a kind of ferromagnetic wire , you can test it with permanent magnet, if the magnet attract the wire it will be good, this kind of wire is widely available , but the best place is if we could find conductive foils made by some kind of ferromagnetic material, so we could construct the E-TBC using this kind of material.

mu metal will be a good choice for the E-TBC, i think you can find it as foils in your place.
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Hi Med. I would like to test some pancake coils inside of the E-TBC and also that magnetit (black sand) as it has very good properties similar to met-glass.
My HV set of diodes said goodbye Also, I am not sure about that ferite toroid with two coils. I can see there some sparks between turns. I will need to make it from well insulated wire.
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Sure thing man. That sort of plasma is a high frequency plasma... its usually presents when the field from the coil that its generated by is local and its within its affectation range, if you could pull that wire out farther away from the side of the coil I'd expect the plasma to go invisible... its still there, but nothings interacting with it to cause it to be illumined...

high frequency AC usually won't hurt you cuz it alternates to quickly for the current to continue going into oneself in either direction... depending on the current leader length... which is determined by the driving capacity... and thats what is causing that plasma on the insulation to manifest.

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Thanks fro your advices, cold electricity is one of the most disputable subjects but in the case of E-TBC it was clear that it wasn't normal hot electricity for some reason ...

1- the sensation was limited to my finger only
2- it reveal the wire in perpendicular direction
3- its noise was very small compared to the sparks reveal L2 coil ( Floyd sweet announced this )

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Some good HV diodes I use that seem to be pretty robust are these...

12 Pcs 2CL2FM 20KV 100mA 100NS High Voltage Diodes Rectifiers USA Fast Shipping | eBay

Might be useful.

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Hi Med. I would like to test some pancake coils inside of the E-TBC and also that magnetit (black sand) as it has very good properties similar to met-glass.
My HV set of diodes said goodbye Also, I am not sure about that ferite toroid with two coils. I can see there some sparks between turns. I will need to make it from well insulated wire.
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Hi Med. I would like to test some pancake coils inside of the E-TBC and also that magnetit (black sand) as it has very good properties similar to met-glass.
My HV set of diodes said goodbye Also, I am not sure about that ferite toroid with two coils. I can see there some sparks between turns. I will need to make it from well insulated wire.
Hi John,

The back EMF generated in the inductive toroid is very strong and proportional to the voltage between your SG, more voltage the diode will die very soon , in my case i used microwave HV diode since they are rated for high amperage.

The toroid inductor have to be ferrite material, i met the same problem when using yellow ( iron ) toroid, but with ferrite all is good

feel free to test any arrangement since this will let us learn more and more, in my place i am examining the possibility of using the E-TBC in a toroidal arrangement ...

what i am sure about is we are missing something that don't allow us to extract the power from the E-TBC, i think i am using only the half power from the E-TBC...

The secret of extracting the power from this device involved in the E-TBC itself !
it gather the magnetism and electricity in one device , so they both work in the same fashion helping each other ....

what about this philosophy in a solenoid coil ? using quarter wave length need extreme tuning... just wondering if there is a simple way so it will be worth.

the following photo show the toroidal arrangement used By Don Smith --- from Donald L Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium ---





Don Smith proposed by a Japanese professor to take a Nobel prize, But ! most of us know why he didn't take it , he invented something new wasn't known before! all my reverse engineering thinking show it's the E-TBC !!!
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Hi John.

Oh a mot AC cap eh? those are usually 900nF-1uF or so at 2000vac. Thats a little to big and it probably affected the output of the flyback by converting the volts to current at the gap which is why you saw the frequency go down while the discharge power per pulse went up, as evinced by the bigger spark in the gap.

You know the cheapy little blue disk HV caps that are 100pF - 400pF or so? you prolly want to try a few different sizes on the gap to find one that still gives you a decent frequency and yet improves the spark discharged also.

In any case you've now seen how to localize current at the spark gap... so thats cool.

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Hi Med. What Magnetostrictive material are you testing? I have some "black sand" - magnetite, at home - I have it ready for different project- but maybe I can cover my L2 wires with that? I have also some 6m of mumetal wire at home. But the diameter of this wire is only 1mm.

Gene: Thanks for link to ebay. I think I will order some HV caps. I surely did try to use the HV cap with the E-TBC (0.1uF microwave cap) - in parallel and in series. Yes it did increase the spark -I guess it was 2-3x larger, but the spark frequency dropped down. Also interesting noise came out of the flyback transformer.
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Sure thing man. That sort of plasma is a high frequency plasma... its usually presents when the field from the coil that its generated by is local and its within its affectation range, if you could pull that wire out farther away from the side of the coil I'd expect the plasma to go invisible... its still there, but nothings interacting with it to cause it to be illumined...

high frequency AC usually won't hurt you cuz it alternates to quickly for the current to continue going into oneself in either direction... depending on the current leader length... which is determined by the driving capacity... and thats what is causing that plasma on the insulation to manifest.

Cheers...
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I just did two experiments one with a single E-TBC like the following drawing :



the other with the dual E-TBC show no such things even i used the same high voltage level !!!

This experiments is very dangerous, i worked with only one hand but i did a mistake and i received a very painful shock .... working with high voltage and higher capacitor maybe lethal !


the absence of cold electricity in the dual E-TBC explain the work of a single E-TBC, so every E-TBC will cancel out the excitation created in time-space field.
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Maybe this is the answer:Double Cone Bipolar Tesla Coil
would be fun to experiment with....
There is a guy, whose name I just forgot, and he is more about the UFO and levitation and all this crap. And he shows some pictures and he is pretty sure some UFO sorcerers they have central Tesla type coil of concave shape ,so it focus the energy into some perimeter coil. Interesting idea. Like a parabolic focus. Or maybe vice versa?

Anyway, other day of messing with this lethal device, and nothing to share
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Just to add an idea about the importance of Magnetostriction which is a property of ferromagnetic materials that causes them to change their shape or dimensions during the process of magnetization.

when using this kind of material they will oscillate and afterwards become the feedback, this feature is very important in extracting the energy from the resonance induction device, because this device is based on electrons spin mechanism ... the same as the E-TBC when the one dimensional capacitor prove the concept of electrons spin mechanism.

the problem we encounter is related to the lack of feedback energy that is responsible for spinning the electrons backward providing either voltage or current according the oscillation state .








Edit 1 : will explain later the process gained when using this material and how it affect extracting the power
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Hi everyone !

after examining a lots of configurations i think it's the time to think again about the process inside an oscillating E-TBC , as discussed previously the key is still inside this device ...!

the cause that make me change the way of thinking is the difference i saw when using no ferromagnetic material in L2 coil , the extraction of power was degraded dramatically , the same happen to standing waves locations, the neon bulb lighten very hard.

let's start by examining one scope shoot provided by John.K1



the red arrow positions show the high energy level in these positions but suddenly the energy is lost until another spark gap firing .... it's clear this energy is related to the amount of electric power in the capacitive side of the E-TBC, so the first oscillation has a very high energy level compared to the rest of oscillation.

the question now is why the E-TBC lost its power very soon ? i think the reply about this question will be the lost key for this device to give what is expected !!

the E-TBC form a combined capacitor coil , but like ordinary parallel L/C it's a subject of power degradation if not managed correctly , one of the biggest problem is the lost of energy in spark gap position, even extreme tuning will not overcome this problem ... the following drawing show some details about how electrons behave inside an E-TBC :



according the future/past light cone concept the maximum potential in an oscillating E-TBC have to be in points A and B , this is also true regarding the rotation direction of induced electric field which build his elementary voltage starting by 0v ----------v------------2v .

in the above drawing we see two special zone where we seek electrons amplification, but we have a problem in that areas since the electrons in the conductor move very fast compared to the attracted ambient electrons, this situation explain the above scope shoot where we have only one special time where energy has a very high level ....

for better accessing the energy amplification provided in the E-TBC we need some kind of feedback... this is clear because when the magnetic field collapse and start charging the E-TBC with opposite sign only the magnetic portion is responsible for charging the combined capacitor coil,




when using a magneto restriction material as the above drawing, the back EMF gained when the magnetic domain return to its original state will induce a high voltage level sustaining the amplification process .


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the number of turns has an importance of the overall energy, the ratio is unknown but i think i will follow Don Smith when he gave 1/5 as ratio.

what is the best arrangement ? using ferrite core or air core ? air core is the best choice but still we have to choose the best material for this application.

the next experiment i will try is using ferrite bar inside an oscillation E-TBC, for the first time i think i will try Colpitts circuit .
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Hello!

I just finished testing cored E-TBC with ferrite bar using Colpitts oscillator, what i can say is finally i have found something promising, the oscillator was fed using (as previously ) a 12v battery , the same schematic also, some strange effects was happen.

without the ferrite bar the frequency was 3.2 MHZ after inserting the ferrite bar inside the E-TBC the frequency drop but the oscillation amplitude increased to more than 20V even the source battery was only 12v !
without the ferrite bar the oscillating transistor run hot but after inserting the bar it run cold even the voltage was increased ....

i hope someone else will try the same and tell us about his experiment ...

the following photo show the oscillation when the ferrite bar was inside it's clear the voltage oscillation was increased.

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the Colpitts oscillator use L/C tank circuit to maintain its oscillation, upon oscillation the output voltage may exceed the source, in this case the collector current have to increase which cause more heat dissipation, in the previous test the voltage increased but the heat dissipation decreased which lead me to think there is some kind of amplification ....

in other hand the waves form was strange , a special pattern was built indicating an increased oscillation power, it look like Donald L Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium photos .... i just put the two photos together so we could notice something .

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the first from Don smith , the second is Colpitts oscillation output using a ferrite cored E-TBC
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Hi Guys, just back from my holiday. Tomorrow will start to take a look at it a bit. Any news here? Suggestions?
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Hi Med.

Just messing with the thoughts of using the ferite core. Considering the magnetization/de-magnetization of ferite has some propagation time, how this would influence the process? Based on the Tesla's expectation of rapidly switch on-off, I believe it is better to go just with the air core and push it somehow high on speed? Also, by using the ferite core you mus count with the ferromagnetic resonance etc => dirty job There is a some visual picture in my mind -the conical shape of the E-TBC. Will try it later.
Also to my scope shot- charging (highest spike) takes some energy, how much is there energy in that ringing afterward? Visually it looks like the area under the charging spike is much smaller than we get from the ringing?

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in Smith.pdf document there are some useful information about the benefit of using magneto-restriction material, i will past them all here so you could read them :

Magnetic Resonance Power System
Suggestions for Construction

This is the Basic Sonar Power System which permits submarines to see approximately 50 miles distance. What is not commonly known is that it works better at higher frequencies in the Gigahertz range. Any Device that can radiate 50 miles plus, is producing an enormous electromagnetic disturbance from a small input into a rod of magnetostrictive material. Disturbing the Earth's Ambient Background plus the strong dipole being produced, turns the magnetostrictive rod into a combination of a receiving antenna and a vastly superior output transformer.
The Drawing is only the Key Unit. A power input module and an output inverter circuit (diode bridge plus output transformer) are also required. The metal core and the wire size of the output transformer, plus adjusting the Earth Grounding of the Load, will determine the Amperage.
The Ideal rod material is Terfenol-D (check the internet). However a 1.5" diameter 10" long rod, costs over $5,000 each. Less expensive alternatives are obvious. When constructing, use PVC tubing with removable caps. Wind the coils on it and insert the experimental rod. Use only magnetostrictive material. When you get it right, you will have exactly what the Doctor ordered:


Magnetostriction oscillators work by magnetic resonance in a rod of magnetostriction material. This rod serves two purposes: It vibrates at the frequency of resonance oscillation, and it becomes the feedback transformer. Frequency is determined by items 4, 5, 6 and 8. The diameter, length and volume of the rod and output windings, determines the output. Item 2 provides feedback into the system. The negative magnetic character of item 8 plus the windings 2, in reaction to the magnetic flux field provided by 9, increases (amplifies or magnifies) the output. Magnetic permeability is the counterpart of negative resistance. Resonating with negative magnetic resistance, it pumps energy from the Earth's ambient background. Magnetic permeability is the ratio of flux density (Earth's B field) to the magnetizing force (H) in oersteds.
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Hi Med. I know this document, A piece of that rod cost thousands of dollars Have you any substitute?
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in the same document you read : Use only magnetostrictive material
i can suggest using ferrite , since magnetorestriction is a character of ferromagnetic material, the process with/without the ferrite rod was proven practically, with the rod inside the E-TBC the ferrite tend to resonate naturally , why ? the ETBC isn't like ordinary parallel L/C circuit because it form an open parallel LC circuit where both side of electricity live together, the ferrite will take most of magnetic energy due to its magnetic Permeability, we know it as the ability of a material to support the formation of a magnetic field within itself....

so our E-TBC will act like a ferrite rod plus one dimensional capacitor
, i just can imagine how it is but i can't prove my point of view !!!
most magnetic energy will be within the rod but for the coil to charge the capacitor there is something called spin separation mechanism which take action in point X , this process is related to the value of inductance and dynamic capacitance, so the E-TBC oscillate like normal parallel LC circuit but in the case of ferrite inside the coil will be invisible to our dynamic capacitor... because AB magnetic side appear to be an open coil the X capacitor will see nothing but only the ferrite rod as a coil ! remember that the electromagnetic flux is inside this rod plus the open coil will give the chance to the ferrite to oscillate at its higher speed , in my case the E-TBC oscillate at 3 MHZ but the ferrite resonate at 17 MHZ.

this give the opportunity for the E-TBC to work freely outside its geometry, here it's better to give what Smith said :

Disturbing the Earth's Ambient Background plus the strong dipole being produced, turns the magnetostrictive rod into a combination of a receiving antenna and a vastly superior output transformer.

when the magnetic domain inside the rod turn to the initial position the capacitor will be charged , the amplification process inside the E-TBC remain intact because it's related to the induced electric field which is the speed variation of magnetic field, the magnetic field density inside the ferrite act like negative resistance , it oscillate and become the feedback, the E-TBC amplify the power so most magnetic field will be concentrated in magneto restrictive material and it's free from inductance and magnetic loss unlike normal coil...

using a higher voltage will give a very powerful amplification , and i think this will be the solution to regulation problem encountered .


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I realize I am probably not going to be welcomed with the comments I am about to make. But please check these facts for yourselves. The comments in the document about Sonar are totally wrong. Sonar operates using sound not electromagnetic pulses. Also sonar signals can be from the below audible frequencies up to and including ultrasonic frequencies. Ultrasonic in audio frequencies means normally from 20 khz to 50 khz. As far as I have been able to find out there is no such thing as audio in the gigahertz range. So it seems a lot of the document is false and misleading.

I spent quite a bit of time a couple of years ago watching the Don Smith videos. I have over 50 years experience working in electronics and what I saw from Don Smith was that he did not have any idea what he was talking about.

I am not trying to discourage you from continuing your research. I am just saying you shouldn't lean to heavily on anything Don Smith said or wrote. You might want to look at a post in the Don Smith thread by someone that knew Don. It was posted there today.


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in Smith.pdf document there are some useful information about the benefit of using magneto-restriction material, i will past them all here so you could read them :

Magnetic Resonance Power System
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This is the Basic Sonar Power System which permits submarines to see approximately 50 miles distance. What is not commonly known is that it works better at higher frequencies in the Gigahertz range. Any Device that can radiate 50 miles plus, is producing an enormous electromagnetic disturbance from a small input into a rod of magnetostrictive material. Disturbing the Earth's Ambient Background plus the strong dipole being produced, turns the magnetostrictive rod into a combination of a receiving antenna and a vastly superior output transformer.
The Drawing is only the Key Unit. A power input module and an output inverter circuit (diode bridge plus output transformer) are also required. The metal core and the wire size of the output transformer, plus adjusting the Earth Grounding of the Load, will determine the Amperage.
The Ideal rod material is Terfenol-D (check the internet). However a 1.5" diameter 10" long rod, costs over $5,000 each. Less expensive alternatives are obvious. When constructing, use PVC tubing with removable caps. Wind the coils on it and insert the experimental rod. Use only magnetostrictive material. When you get it right, you will have exactly what the Doctor ordered:


Magnetostriction oscillators work by magnetic resonance in a rod of magnetostriction material. This rod serves two purposes: It vibrates at the frequency of resonance oscillation, and it becomes the feedback transformer. Frequency is determined by items 4, 5, 6 and 8. The diameter, length and volume of the rod and output windings, determines the output. Item 2 provides feedback into the system. The negative magnetic character of item 8 plus the windings 2, in reaction to the magnetic flux field provided by 9, increases (amplifies or magnifies) the output. Magnetic permeability is the counterpart of negative resistance. Resonating with negative magnetic resistance, it pumps energy from the Earth's ambient background. Magnetic permeability is the ratio of flux density (Earth's B field) to the magnetizing force (H) in oersteds.
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I realize I am probably not going to be welcomed with the comments I am about to make. But please check these facts for yourselves. The comments in the document about Sonar are totally wrong. Sonar operates using sound not electromagnetic pulses. Also sonar signals can be from the below audible frequencies up to and including ultrasonic frequencies. Ultrasonic in audio frequencies means normally from 20 khz to 50 khz. As far as I have been able to find out there is no such thing as audio in the gigahertz range. So it seems a lot of the document is false and misleading.

I spent quite a bit of time a couple of years ago watching the Don Smith videos. I have over 50 years experience working in electronics and what I saw from Don Smith was that he did not have any idea what he was talking about.

I am not trying to discourage you from continuing your research. I am just saying you shouldn't lean to heavily on anything Don Smith said or wrote. You might want to look at a post in the Don Smith thread by someone that knew Don. It was posted there today.




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Hi

you are welcome, no problem at all if we have different point of view , but the electromagnetic waves are used the same as in Radar, i did some search in the internet and i found such things using magneto-restriction material, for sure they use the most powerful elements , so they are very expensive .

in my position the internet is my only source of information, i can't confirm if Don was deluded or not ... but he was confident about his work ....
in other hands i have to use all the possible information available to push this project to grow up

some are already advanced in this technology using the concept behind the E-TBC , since we start to see a lots of strange phenomena ...
i am here to make sure this device will not be forgotten and try to analyze the problems in it ....
finally it's up to us ... i am not losing my money here because i am learning a lots, i just can't stop thinking ....

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the process of using such magneto-restriction material in these sonar system is another branch of science, i just focus on the benefit of these elements in our system ! :-)
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Hi Med.

Just messing with the thoughts of using the ferite core. Considering the magnetization/de-magnetization of ferite has some propagation time, how this would influence the process? Based on the Tesla's expectation of rapidly switch on-off, I believe it is better to go just with the air core and push it somehow high on speed? Also, by using the ferite core you mus count with the ferromagnetic resonance etc => dirty job There is a some visual picture in my mind -the conical shape of the E-TBC. Will try it later.
Also to my scope shot- charging (highest spike) takes some energy, how much is there energy in that ringing afterward? Visually it looks like the area under the charging spike is much smaller than we get from the ringing?

Hi John!

sorry for missing this post yesterday, yes magnetization/de-magnetization of ferite has some propagation time, but the ferrite itself can resonate in higher speed, i watched some YouTube video about tuning the ferrite and how it respond in a wide variety of frequencies, theoretically it's difficult to calculate these frequencies ( this is what i have found ) because they are related to the total energy and the formation of these magnetic domain inside the ferrite, the dimension play its role also !

so we have to measure it practically, the good news is it's possible to drive it in higher speed, i gave my point of view about the benefit of using it inside our E-TBC.
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Hi med,

Thank you for the link to the article about magneto strictive materials. If you look at the information under the picture it clearly says "Tactic Acoustic Littoral Ocean Network" Acoustic means sonar not electromagnetic. The article is all about using the magneto strictive materials as sensors and transducers. So by driving a magneto strictive material it can then send out acoustic pulses. Or by amplifying the signal from a magneto strictive material we can use it as a sensitive acoustic pickup sensor.

There is one small mistake in the article. They keep referring to the Navy lab as the Naval Ordinance lab. That is incorrect. It is the Naval Ordnance lab. An ordinance is a law. Ordnance refers to weapons. I know this because I worked at the Naval Ordnance Station Louisville for 13 years until our crooked local politicians got it closed down.

Sorry to interrupt your thread. I think you guys are doing some good research. I just wanted to caution you about relying too heavily on anything Don Smith wrote or said.

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Guys, it is maybe also the time to speak about some safety. What is gonna happen when the device will start to operate as it should? Don't we need some "Kill"switch to not get electrocuted or blown?
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Hi med,

Thank you for the link to the article about magneto strictive materials. If you look at the information under the picture it clearly says "Tactic Acoustic Littoral Ocean Network" Acoustic means sonar not electromagnetic. The article is all about using the magneto strictive materials as sensors and transducers. So by driving a magneto strictive material it can then send out acoustic pulses. Or by amplifying the signal from a magneto strictive material we can use it as a sensitive acoustic pickup sensor.

There is one small mistake in the article. They keep referring to the Navy lab as the Naval Ordinance lab. That is incorrect. It is the Naval Ordnance lab. An ordinance is a law. Ordnance refers to weapons. I know this because I worked at the Naval Ordnance Station Louisville for 13 years until our crooked local politicians got it closed down.

Sorry to interrupt your thread. I think you guys are doing some good research. I just wanted to caution you about relying too heavily on anything Don Smith wrote or said.

Respectfully,
Carroll
Thanks so much for the valuable information you gave to us, i am not professional in that field , but if i understand it correctly it's the piezoelectric of magnetic-restriction material that cause the phenomena.

i agree with you it's better not to relay heavily on Don Smith wrote or said , but here we have to test anything possible... anything may lead to some interesting results...
in the resonance energy device magneto-restriction have two purpose, they receive the magnetic flux and after that become the feedback , when adding this to the unique geometry of the E-TBC the oscillation was increased as shown in the previous scope snapshot .

in the previous test i used two ferrite bar, one thick but the other was thin, they are used at the same time in one E-TBC as the following drawing :






i think it was better to change the location of these two ferrite bars and see the change made to the wave form, but i am sure it's related to the thickness, so thicker
bar made higher voltage jump.
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Guys, it is maybe also the time to speak about some safety. What is gonna happen when the device will start to operate as it should? Don't we need some "Kill"switch to not get electrocuted or blown?
For the first time i think it's better to use low voltage value and test over unity possibilities .... after that we have to use only the needed power , around 5KW more than this level will be problematic
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Just to add another important source of information about something similar to the E-TBC, it's by Milan Manchich when he treated Tesla bifilar coil not as coil but as a capacitor.... . some info are in the following link but the PDF document i have is not available in the internet so it's here for download :
the bad news is that part 2 isn't available !

here you are the link :

Singe wire conduction - 06/08/01
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Who does understand Russian , you can find Александр Мишин, who also use the Tesla pancake coils the similar way as we do.
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Who does understand Russian , you can find Александр Мишин, who also use the Tesla pancake coils the similar way as we do.

HI John,

can you please give the link , so we could use the translator or something similar, Thank you
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