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Hi med,

Thank you for your reply.

I deleted the last post as I thought it might have been inappropriate to critise your helpful advice.

If I create SG between CD I get better response at light globe! I have not used SG because your Serial ETBC video says it is not needed in ETBC. There is other solution.

I am next trying spark gap in tube. The issue I see for SG is replacement with wear.

I do not seem to have Part 2. are you talking Mohamed.pdf part 2?

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it's the same PDF www.free-energy-info.com/Mohamed.pdf , part 2 describe Tesla wireless system and how related to the ETBC using part of prof K.Meyl work, this is a fast reply i will explain more later.


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Hi med,

I have been going over the early comments in the thread.

My wrap is never going to work at the level we re expecting. Inductance 31.5uH, Capacitance 92nF. F = 94+Khz. My Mazilli is running at 42.5Khz. Not even 2:1. I can adjust the Cap and get close to 2:1.

With the SG sound is very loud! Like an old Gatling Gun! Need to get up to Mhz. I do not think that this is going to be possible with the quantity of materials I have used. However if I close the gap of the SG to minimum, I get plasma effect. I have made a parallel SG using two straight wires, thinking that this configuration might give longevity and even quality of spark.

With wider SG gap get big voltage spikes, with small gap get higher frequency smaller spikes. I suppose, it evens itself out. When SG in tube, there does not seem to be any amplification back to Wrap. Have not wound L2 yet to test mutual coupling with SG. Is it possible that L2 connects across the CD/SG?

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the ETBC resonate in double frequency, in case of Inductance 31.5uH, Capacitance 92nF. F = 94+Khz X 2 = 188 Khz !

the SG between CD give a powerful respond due to low resistance , it's a capacitor discharge across itself to form a coil , it's expected some electrons near CD region see a very tiny resistance which lead to very powerful respond with big sound .
there's a good scenario that you can test, i want to share my idea and you can choose !

the ETBC with open CD can be used as excitation coil but you need another ETBC as explained before , here you are the drawing again :




the power can be taken in star position in large amount , this is the best coil to take the power , about your question : Is it possible that L2 connects across the CD/SG? yes there's some amplification when connecting CD with L2 .


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the ETBC resonate in double frequency, in case of Inductance 31.5uH, Capacitance 92nF. F = 94+Khz X 2 = 188 Khz !

the SG between CD give a powerful respond due to low resistance , it's a capacitor discharge across itself to form a coil , it's expected some electrons near CD region see a very tiny resistance which lead to very powerful respond with big sound .
there's a good scenario that you can test, i want to share my idea and you can choose !

the ETBC with open CD can be used as excitation coil but you need another ETBC as explained before , here you are the drawing again :




the power can be taken in star position in large amount , this is the best coil to take the power , about your question : Is it possible that L2 connects across the CD/SG? yes there's some amplification when connecting CD with L2 .


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The above coil should be named as the twin ETBC OR T-ETBC , have to be used with great care with an ETBC since there's a danger of high voltage high current which can be lethal ... ( warning ) , the excitation ETBC better to follow the T-ETBC geometry , the following drawing will show the correct usage :




it's the pick up coil or the T-ETBC , in the excitation coil we can use ABCD , the only diffirence with T-ETBC is the place where we take the power .
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" there's a good scenario that you can test, i want to share my idea and you can choose ! "

I have sent a message!

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hello !


it maybe interesting to you and other researcher in this field to share the following drawing which prove the ultimate relation between Don Smith and the ETBC !

to the right my model the T-ETBC , to the left an image token from Don 1996 presentation :




don smith system appear to be a 4 layer ETBC, this mean two layers form the primary but another set form the secondary which can be a perfect arrangement to cancel lenz's law ( maybe to extreme level ..)

the conducting foil appear clearly ! i watched that video several times but never noticed this until recently !!!! ( maybe the reason is the length of that video which exceed two hours ... )

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Hello everyone ,

just to add two Don Smith videos about his resonance device :

https://youtu.be/BHr3eDELyHk

https://youtu.be/_8JwIlHLOUI

in the first one he talked about the infinity loop which is in my opinion the vital key to his device , i would like to thank Rick Friedrich once again here for posting such info to continue this long road research !
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Hello Med.3012

I was interested with your pdf but I don't understand what the diagrams are symbolizing in fig's 5,6 and 7. The red and black dome shapes.

You are talking about coils and capacitors but I can not relate what you are saying to these diagrams.

Can you please explain what they are supposed to be and how they relate to what you are trying to explain.

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in Fig 5 i just explained the geometry as explained by Don Smith a CW coil with another CCW , since the ETBC is a kind of flat coil both side can be seeing from one face , it's just from where you start taking the beginning of this coil , from the outside it's a CCW but from the inside it's CW , if you turn the coil things will be reversed .

in fig 6 it's an analysis of ETBC , a simple capacitor charged and discharged through CD

fig 7 a static electric field is secured .

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in Fig 5 i just explained the geometry as explained by Don Smith a CW coil with another CCW , since the ETBC is a kind of flat coil both side can be seeing from one face , it's just from where you start taking the beginning of this coil , from the outside it's a CCW but from the inside it's CW , if you turn the coil things will be reversed .

in fig 6 it's an analysis of ETBC , a simple capacitor charged and discharged through CD

fig 7 a static electric field is secured .

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Hi med,
Sorry but because I can not physically understand what those black and red cup shape things are or supposed to relate to or what they are supposed to actually be it is impossible to understand and follow what you are trying to explain. Because what they are in the drawing is what matters as to what happens. If they are supposed to be a particular coil or a particular capacitor and particular orientation then show exactly what they are and how they are orientated. Or if they are something else which is attached to something else please show it.
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Sorry but because I can not physically understand what those black and red cup shape things are or supposed to relate to or what they are supposed to actually be it is impossible to understand and follow what you are trying to explain. Because what they are in the drawing is what matters as to what happens. If they are supposed to be a particular coil or a particular capacitor and particular orientation then show exactly what they are and how they are orientated. Or if they are something else which is attached to something else please show it.

Hi !

the black cup is a negative plate, the red is positive plate , both is a charged capacitor , after discharging it and because it also a coil there's some interesting phenomena happen .. the following is what i wrote in my PDF :


Let us start by analysing how the extended Tesla bi-filar coil
works. Imagine that the following drawing is a
charged, extended Tesla coil with the positive and negative parts, shown as red and black plates respectively


the cups there is just a plate , the drawing also help understand the inductance behavior, this is why i have to draw them as a cup using office Microsoft word .. 3D model will be amazing but not easy to draw but the idea is simple, when we connect the red plate with the negative plate an electric current will circulate and build a magnetic field .. the nice thing here is we secure a static electric field from the induced E field .. this is an extra power wasn't present before , this was the most easy model to understand the ETBC, another model describe it as a compacted Tesla wireless power transmitter ,
we have also a third model still not analyzed but anyone read my work here can see it :-)


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Bought a couple of rolls of Au duct tape and will wind a transformer/cap with it to see just what this is all about. These are 1.89" wide and 50 yards long. Should make quite a coil indeed. And one heck of a cap too.
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Bought a couple of rolls of Au duct tape and will wind a transformer/cap with it to see just what this is all about. These are 1.89" wide and 50 yards long. Should make quite a coil indeed. And one heck of a cap too.
Hi !

the ETBC is a wonderful device that convert reactive into active.. the sad part in all this is the lack of volunteers...., the process is very easy, we just need good circuit to create such reactive power with less tuning ( self resonance ) ..

anyone can help please do it

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the work still going on ! you can follow us here


https://www.facebook.com/groups/1317678255044790/

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Hi there buddy,
Have discovered the importance of the dielectric separator for the ETBC!! Here are some shots of my "Success". Very noisy though. This set up is not tuned yet, although I have had 98uT out of it, which makes it pretty darn god. The photos just show the basic set up as per the Mohammed.pdf with the exception that I can only get the output keeping the spark across CD. If I close this and advance to last details in pdf,I get dismal spark with hissing sound not the big thunderclap sound. My wife keeps shouting what is that noise! Hmmm.... Need to quieten it down some how. Happy wife happy life.

Unfortunately bright spark is suffocating camera lens. Will see if I can get a clearer picture of the brightness and strength of the spark.

Could not understand the Arabic on the above facebook link, even with English selected.

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Edit: Not across CD but AB. Enter ETBC through CD. Also, caps do give good running. without caps, gets bit jerky!
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Hi buddy,
Here are some more photos of my progress! Big issue I see is the stable pulsing of the ETBC. I am using the Mazzilli at the moment as it is available. Even though I have the close reasonant frequency for ETBC, Mazzilli drifts too much either side of Resonance. Anyway, slow and steady! Still, getting 90+uT output. Next will see if I can use energy!!

Configuration as per the final set up on Mohammed.pdf with the inclusion of Eguchi capacitor. Which does enhance the density of the L2 spark.

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Hello Dwane + everyone )


so sorry for not replying your email, i am planning to do so but very lazy and busy too i also have a new baby , the connection across CD is the same as AB due to symmetry, it's just a reference to external ( AB ) points or internal points (CD) ..
i was looking for replicator in those Arabic Facebook groups but very few or none !!!

in my opinion the phylosophy to a successfull replication of Don smith device is energy balance !! why he adviced to use the Tesla flat coil ? because the formation of magnetic field in this coil is balanced even in AC current .. the wire turn in the same plane so the magnetic field keep balanced ..

using the same phylosophy we need to use a closed CD connection..not to break the magnetic portion !

when we use an extended wire to form the ETBC we enhance the process much more because the electrons can shift to the other side which bypass lenz law completelly !!!

take the following drawing as a new expiriment you can do :



the blue ABCD is the primary coil , the black ABCD is the secondary coil, the wire lenght is 4 time more in the sencondary , power your primary coil measure the power consumption and the frequency while the secondary is open , now close the secondary coil through AB measure the power consumtion ? you see no consumption !!!! measure the frequency you see it's much more lower !!! i did some expiriment and the frequency get lower from 700 KHZ to around 100 KHZ in such resonance system when you load the seconday the frequency have to raise to push more power .. it also mean the inductance of primary coil is loaded so it lost the magnetic field which lead to frequency drift to higher value as you lost some inductance when combined to the same capacitor the frequency is higher ..

in our case the frequency is lower !!!!!!! the two ETBC together can bypass lenz law very easilly since the electron can move bacause we use a conducting foil ... the secondary coil don't take the magnetic field from the primary but added to it !!! i did this test more than 3 times just to be sure and it is :-)

now to take the power keep the two ETBC working together extracting the energy from the ambient and added a third coil to harvest what's going on ... still not tested .....

lenz's law simply make an opposite magnetic field that lead to power consumption, using Tesla thinking plus this treak we can use this law to help us !!
in my opinion this is the correct path we have to work in


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Hi Med,
Sometimes a brief sojourn can focus the attention.

I will follow your instructions and rebuild my ETBC. The current ETBC certainly generates energy. I just need to clear up a couple of points. My ETBC doing the 2F=2*((1/ pi* sq root LC ) gives me 60.7khz for resonant frequency. I can get close to this through mazzilli at 9kv! This indicates to me that ETBC is frequency dependent upon voltage input?And, the wave is quite stable. Have not been able to adjust ETBC frequency using capacitor. Also, I am blowing up 20kv ceramic caps too much with heat. I am using the configuration for entry to ETBC via caps at either node. Also, I have wound two coils one straight coil the other CW and CCW with centre earth connection. I am getting very little actual energy transfer, which is likely poor ratio coupling. It is difficult to measure ETBC! If I use low voltage pulse, I get the impression that ETBC thinks it is bedtime! Low voltage is sending it to sleep.

I have located some polypropylene sheet locally. .32mm thickness which is giving me good ETBC response. No punch through. And cheap $5 a sheet.


I am mindful that Don used the negative going pulse extensively, and I cannot quite see how the ETBC fits into the Don Smith Paradigm. What I am seeing is a developed bifilar coil that generates a massive amount of internal energy. Perhaps, I should make larger ETBC and fit an energy sucking coil internally? First, though I must reconcile the resonating of the ETBC, I am sure when I get that, a lot of other variables will fall into place!

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Hello Dwane,

OK you can finish all the experiments you want at the same time i will post the new method plus some explanation drawing .. i did some test using higher voltage and lower voltage i think the performance will vary but ambient energy can be extracted in both cases .. if we use only two coil we lost the peak energy point very soon ... if we use 3 coil we are in optimal situation all the time .. until new post take care .


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I am only thinking of myself! Congratulations on your baby!

Yes I will look at the two coils primary and secondary. it might be easier to tune if using the 4:1 ratio using same materials. Like the Tesla coil, I shall make one bigger and one smaller! How to tweak the foil? Hmm...

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Hello Dwane !


i prepared two drawing for you ,the first explain Lenz's law physically





the bar magnet is the primary coil , the coil is the secondary , when we induce an EMF in the secondary by feeding the primary the magnetic field in the secondary coil oppose the primary field which lower the apparent inductance , this lead to frequency to increase ..

the problem in the above drawing is the section of the cable !!! the electron can't move to bypass this situation ..
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now it's the time to show what the ETBC CAN DO FOR US ? the following drawing show a half ETBC the connection from A to C , this coil is nothing than a Tesla flat coil :






the magic is the freedom liberty degree where the electron can shift so the north pole find a south pole not like our ordinary Lenz's confined system where the north oppose the north !!!!

here you are the evidence from Don smith resonance energy crafting 1994 !





he show the magnetic inductance in his system to oppose Len's law !! no repulsion but attraction !! when we added a magnetic material to this phenomena the received ambient energy will be very high because of magnetic field optimization .. few turn can lead to high inductance due to magnetic material , in this case negative resistance will be enhanced ..

the easy way to extract energy is to introduce a third coil tuned to that frequency , maybe we can use a kind of bucking coil ..


NB : anyone read this info please share it to other place and ask your question to expand the discussion



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Hi Med,
Tanks for the update.

I have wound a L1 and L2 ETBC. My L1 is 300mm long and gives me just over one complete coil turn around the L2 ETBC. It is hard to know what I am looking at, and measuring the frequency. On the scope i see lots of jumbled up frequencies. There is one point on the inside of the L2 coil where I get stable signal. I have a wound Bucking coil which collects the output from L2 when nearby - with or without connection as third coil and shows me different frequencies along the coil! Best frequency stability is when only using one section of bucking coil with centre connection disconnected and this is at the end of the coil. 1MHz.

This gets a bit confusing trying to determine when I am doing the correct thing. I understand the notion of Tesla's use of the term preponderate forthe significance of the external coil, but, I cannot resolve the 4:1 ratio at this external coil. Is it wound down to 1/4 of the transmitting L2? or is the L2 the 1/4 preponderated coil? Working this concept out would help with looking for the resonance at the magnifier.

Keeping me awake!

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Hello,
Just a brief note. The previous photos posted regarding frequency are now not achievable! I have spent most of the day trying to reconcile the different output I am now getting. I refer to post #130 by John.K1 and the waveform image there. I am now not getting any oscillating waveform and am unable to confirm the frequency on my scope. I only am getting an inverted waveform as was posted on #130.

This device, defies definition to be so unpredictable at times!

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I have finally worked out the issue with different wave patterns!

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