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i don't have a lot of experience in electronic but you can clarify your idea about static DC supply so maybe something will appear !
Hmmm..... I think you are having a lend of me! You underestimate your talents. However, I shall attempt to draw up what I am thinking of. Very Basic.

Perhaps a starting point for some contributor to amend or criticise or improve. The idea is to essentially remove the high voltage component, as you suggest, while retaining the output frequency, but with a higher current component. Thus creating a similar output to Don Smith without the HV controls.

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Hi med.3012,
As requested, here is what I was thinking about. Just a simple driver without the complexity required for multiple operations of varying requirements. just for one job!

The Heaviside issue has gotten to me! It is reminiscent of another process I am interested in. Anyway I digress, as usual.



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As requested, here is what I was thinking about. Just a simple driver without the complexity required for multiple operations of varying requirements. just for one job!

The Heaviside issue has gotten to me! It is reminiscent of another process I am interested in. Anyway I digress, as usual.



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Hello Dwane !


thanks for the drawing; This will produce a fast DC pulse ! interesting at the moment i am trying to use the ETBC as a secondary coil ( keep your experiments using the S-ETBC ... ) something similar to the D-ETBC so it's useful to excite a partnered coils very fast , a new designed ETBC should take the power without disturbing the input..i don't know if it will work or not but the most important is put it under test ..


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Hi med.3012,

I am attaching a wiring layout for L1 as spoken on the youtube video. I have just finished winding the coils and realise that I made the mistake of thinking of the Don Smith layout you use where the L1 is positively pulsed. In this instance, looking at the attached wiring layout, to my mind this approach will not work efficiently. Looks like we need two independent pulses to drive each set of coils alternately. My original circuit will work OK for a single pulse input.

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Hi med.3012,

I am attaching a wiring layout for L1 as spoken on the youtube video. I have just finished winding the coils and realise that I made the mistake of thinking of the Don Smith layout you use where the L1 is positively pulsed. In this instance, looking at the attached wiring layout, to my mind this approach will not work efficiently. Looks like we need two independent pulses to drive each set of coils alternately. My original circuit will work OK for a single pulse input.

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Hello Dwane,


as i see L0 is CW but each ETBC is CCW , you need to change the current direction for the ETBC to be like L0 , L0 is there to produce further more magnetic field strength for the benefit of ETBCs . even if you wound the ETBC in wrong direction it's easy to correct the things just changing the contact direction , as example an AB ETBC produce the same magnetic field direction as BA ETBC just look where you start the current ! from A TO B you have a direction but from B TO A you have the opposite direction ! the ETBC is a flexible coil ! i didn't tried the concept of L0 but you can start with the 4 ETBC only after that you can add the field of L0 and see what's going on , any question please ask !



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as i see L0 is CW but each ETBC is CCW , you need to change the current direction for the ETBC to be like L0 , L0 is there to produce further more magnetic field strength for the benefit of ETBCs . even if you wound the ETBC in wrong direction it's easy to correct the things just changing the contact direction , as example an AB ETBC produce the same magnetic field direction as BA ETBC just look where you start the current ! from A TO B you have a direction but from B TO A you have the opposite direction ! the ETBC is a flexible coil ! i didn't tried the concept of L0 but you can start with the 4 ETBC only after that you can add the field of L0 and see what's going on , any question please ask !



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Hi med.3012,

Thank you for the reply. Without critisism, I have found it extremely difficult to follow the dialogue in the serial ETBC video, and for certain reasons: the accent and variability of the microphone use. Also, the manner of showing the coil directions and connections have, for me, been a further complication.

Let me see if I now understand how the connection have to made. L0 are two independly wound coils to provide flux to the ETBC. The ETBC is essentially one continuous coil around the toroid. The ETBC input and output are where?

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Hi med.3012,

Thank you for the reply. Without critisism, I have found it extremely difficult to follow the dialogue in the serial ETBC video, and for certain reasons: the accent and variability of the microphone use. Also, the manner of showing the coil directions and connections have, for me, been a further complication.

Let me see if I now understand how the connection have to made. L0 are two independly wound coils to provide flux to the ETBC. The ETBC is essentially one continuous coil around the toroid. The ETBC input and output are where?

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no problem at all , as my native language isn't English it's not easy for me to make such presentation but i try my best , if you try just one ETBC you can see the concept.. adding a ferrite core will enhance the oscillation of ETBC , the ETBC is just an oscillator circuit that can combine voltage and current, the IN is where the current enter the ETBC the OUT is where the current leave the ETBC this is important since we need the same magnetic field direction.. it's essentially one continuous coil around the toroid ..

the magnetic field in the ETBC is another subject that need a separate study .. to solve this issue follow one direction :








you start the ETBC 1 after that you move the core in one direction to make an exact copy another ETBC 2 , keep the same direction to put the third ETBC 3 and so on !

i don't know why this is so complicated !


i hope you understand the concept , good luck


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Hi med.3012,

Thank you for the prompt answer to my confusion. However, I would like to direct you to the part of the youtube serial ETBC video at 36minutes. It clearly shows a connection from a L0 coil to an opposite ETBC coil. You can see my confusion here. Later, you join the ETBC coils together to form a continuous loop. However, this loop does not terminate anywhere. It is possible that you have stated the correct wind pattern, but, I have missed it. The wiring diagram I posted was a solution to my misunderstanding of your presentation. Whether it worked efficiently or not would remain to be seen as the ETBC's would get the direct input. So L2 is a single wind with an appropriate inductance?

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Hi med.3012,

Thank you for the prompt answer to my confusion. However, I would like to direct you to the part of the youtube serial ETBC video at 36minutes. It clearly shows a connection from a L0 coil to an opposite ETBC coil. You can see my confusion here. Later, you join the ETBC coils together to form a continuous loop. However, this loop does not terminate anywhere. It is possible that you have stated the correct wind pattern, but, I have missed it. The wiring diagram I posted was a solution to my misunderstanding of your presentation. Whether it worked efficiently or not would remain to be seen as the ETBC's would get the direct input. So L2 is a single wind with an appropriate inductance?

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i watched the video at 36 minute, yes i made it fast in that point since it was just an idea : this is the correction , just a continuous loop





L2 is also a two separate coils , cw + ccw ! but a single separate coil should work .. , in my case it was very difficult to work in such small space , good test should be in a good magnetic core with adequate dimension.


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Hi med.3012,
That's what I was thinking but was unsure. So we are still looking at a dual input pulse? or a single pulse?

Interestingly, you are getting a small number of views. Maybe like myself, working it out, but, cautious to commit to the discussion!

Getting there, waiting option on power supply for the build of higher energy output.

Many thanks for letting us into your experiment!

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Well here is a picture of the basic unit - L1. I have been using a small NST to see what happens. I have mixed results, which I think are mostly related to the cheap NST output 30Khz. I drive this via a variac.

AC input gives the best results. If I half wave pulse the two inputs I get an expected distorted output - i.e. mixed frequencies. L0 shows only a major output on one half of the loop. I attribute this to the issues of the NST. I have had this before when looking at the Don Smith set up; the NST will not give a uniform AC output when loaded in the manner I am using it. The coupling through the ETBC coils is pathetic. There is almost no signal registering on the scope. And that is at the lowest sensitivity. I therefore read that as the ETBC acting as a straight wire! If the ETBC is to give excess power, how many would be required?

I have not attempted to tune this unit, simply because I do not understand what will be the best method of driving the coils. One would expect that there would be some cumulative effect of cross coupling given the manner of the sequence of connecting the coils. Perhaps, the ETBC number would assist here. Especially when, in my opinion, the object of this design is to increase the incidence of magnetic flux.

I show a photo of my basic unit! Similar to that of the unit of Mohammed on the youtube serial ETBC video, My build is "Tight". Very large toroids might be better. As it is, for this to work efficiently a minimum of three things need to occur. 1) tuning the input with L1, and 2) a different "Forme" for the purpose of winding the coils. 3) A dedicated power supply!

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Well here is a picture of the basic unit - L1. I have been using a small NST to see what happens. I have mixed results, which I think are mostly related to the cheap NST output 30Khz. I drive this via a variac.

AC input gives the best results. If I half wave pulse the two inputs I get an expected distorted output - i.e. mixed frequencies. L0 shows only a major output on one half of the loop. I attribute this to the issues of the NST. I have had this before when looking at the Don Smith set up; the NST will not give a uniform AC output when loaded in the manner I am using it. The coupling through the ETBC coils is pathetic. There is almost no signal registering on the scope. And that is at the lowest sensitivity. I therefore read that as the ETBC acting as a straight wire! If the ETBC is to give excess power, how many would be required?

I have not attempted to tune this unit, simply because I do not understand what will be the best method of driving the coils. One would expect that there would be some cumulative effect of cross coupling given the manner of the sequence of connecting the coils. Perhaps, the ETBC number would assist here. Especially when, in my opinion, the object of this design is to increase the incidence of magnetic flux.

I show a photo of my basic unit! Similar to that of the unit of Mohammed on the youtube serial ETBC video, My build is "Tight". Very large toroids might be better. As it is, for this to work efficiently a minimum of three things need to occur. 1) tuning the input with L1, and 2) a different "Forme" for the purpose of winding the coils. 3) A dedicated power supply!

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there's some mistakes in your design that i can't explain at the moment .. i told you to wind L2 after that you put the ETBC , the ETBC outside L2 but i am wrong ! the reversed position is the best , later i will explain this when possible because work in progress , the latest Model explain this but i need more corrections ...

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there's some mistakes in your design that i can't explain at the moment .. i told you to wind L2 after that you put the ETBC , the ETBC outside L2 but i am wrong ! the reversed position is the best , later i will explain this when possible because work in progress , the latest Model explain this but i need more corrections ...

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Hi med.3012,

Looking at frequencies in the L1 coils with no L2, got some strange screen shots which have since disappeared!! I have switched the Func Gen off thinking the ETBC is saturated.

I start the FG at around 30Khz and plenty os screen fuzziness. It is only by adjusting the frequency sensitivity that I see an unusual pattern emerging. From the attached screen shots it can be seen that the two wave forms are slowly merging. I must admit my scope is very old, very very old.

Now all I get is a clean sinewave on the screen. What I am thinking is the merging of the two coils L0+ETBC coils. When they are sufficiently matched they hold the energy and I get the perfect sine wave output. Feasible?

I would be interested in your observations!

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Hi med.3012,

Looking at frequencies in the L1 coils with no L2, got some strange screen shots which have since disappeared!! I have switched the Func Gen off thinking the ETBC is saturated.

I start the FG at around 30Khz and plenty os screen fuzziness. It is only by adjusting the frequency sensitivity that I see an unusual pattern emerging. From the attached screen shots it can be seen that the two wave forms are slowly merging. I must admit my scope is very old, very very old.

Now all I get is a clean sinewave on the screen. What I am thinking is the merging of the two coils L0+ETBC coils. When they are sufficiently matched they hold the energy and I get the perfect sine wave output. Feasible?

I would be interested in your observations!

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Hello Dwane,


the ETBC take the magnetic field after that build a static charge to start the oscillation on its own resonance frequency , if you want another way you can make the current go in different direction across L0 , each 1/2 L0 will be connected to the other end like having a parallel inductance .. the 4 ETBC should work in serial , i can't go further in this explanation because i never tried this coil L0

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Hi med.3012,

i am still here! I have some wire on order winding new coils. This should be here by weekend, if i can stay home without interference, I should be able to build first prototype using Metglass core by early next week.

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i am still here! I have some wire on order winding new coils. This should be here by weekend, if i can stay home without interference, I should be able to build first prototype using Metglass core by early next week.

Until then!

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Hello Dwane !


Nice to see you again in this thread , take your time and do your best i am still working on the replacement of D-ETBC, it's a good idea to give you a sight about it ...
please watch the following drawing carefully !






The ETBC is formed from two ETM, being ETM1 and ETM2 , the observer N1 see the ETM 1 as a transmitter , we extend the flat coil like we are forming the conducting sphere in Tesla wireless power transmitter , the observer N2 see the ETM 2 as a receiver this is also like deforming the sphere to take the shape of cylinder , now we have a transmitter plus receiver , it's just an ETBC !


to go back from the receiver into the transmitter ( i mean the whole ETBC ... ) we just change the position of observers , in ETM1 the left person should be placed in the right position , the same happen to ETM2 where we change the right person to be in the left position !!!
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Hi med.3012,

I have had a go at winding my amorphous core. I followed your instructions. Wind two coils. Over wind these coils with wraps of ETBC. I have only used four wraps. To configure more would entail larger length of ETBC foils to get the 3-4 turns. Which would actually surround the total core arrangement. I did try a third coil as an exciter, but, got little improvement in output . I have to try and learn how best to get this unit to resonate. Also. it is impossible to try and define the inductance of the coils when not all connected and with the core inserted!!

When looking at the photo, wire colours:- A= red, C-Blue, D=green, B=black


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I have had a go at winding my amorphous core. I followed your instructions. Wind two coils. Over wind these coils with wraps of ETBC. I have only used four wraps. To configure more would entail larger length of ETBC foils to get the 3-4 turns. Which would actually surround the total core arrangement. I did try a third coil as an exciter, but, got little improvement in output . I have to try and learn how best to get this unit to resonate. Also. it is impossible to try and define the inductance of the coils when not all connected and with the core inserted!!

When looking at the photo, wire colours:- A= red, C-Blue, D=green, B=black


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Hi Dwane,


maybe you are missing a previous post where i said to reverse them , i mean to start with the ETBC after that you wind the bucking coils, i hope this experiment will teach you something about the ETBC, later we can change the geometry for better performance.


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maybe you are missing a previous post where i said to reverse them , i mean to start with the ETBC after that you wind the bucking coils, i hope this experiment will teach you something about the ETBC, later we can change the geometry for better performance.


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Hi ,

I think I have misunderstood you, possible why my response to my tests has been unremarkable! Yes I have wound the output coils first and then over laid them with the ETBC. Not a big job, i shall rewind them and start over. What i am finding dificult with the amorphous core, is getting a winding that will give VHF signal.

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I have reset the coils on my core. My ZVS has toileted itself(!) so I have reverted in the short term to the NST 30Khz output. I am getting noticeable positive pulses and negative return spikes showing up. Unfortunately, I cannot get a clear camera shot to demonstrate the waveform. Anyway it is a 30khz pulse with a lot of resonant spikes. Unable to count them. Not sure about the strength of the output as the nst is only giving me approx 2kv before it shuts down. The scope I am calculating peak to peak around 5Kv using my magnetic pick up. Bit of ozone but not too much to worry about. Now building a 20Kv bridge. Thinking about number of turns on coils too!

Edit:- here is a small movie of waveform!

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I have reset the coils on my core. My ZVS has toileted itself(!) so I have reverted in the short term to the NST 30Khz output. I am getting noticeable positive pulses and negative return spikes showing up. Unfortunately, I cannot get a clear camera shot to demonstrate the waveform. Anyway it is a 30khz pulse with a lot of resonant spikes. Unable to count them. Not sure about the strength of the output as the nst is only giving me approx 2kv before it shuts down. The scope I am calculating peak to peak around 5Kv using my magnetic pick up. Bit of ozone but not too much to worry about. Now building a 20Kv bridge. Thinking about number of turns on coils too!

Edit:- here is a small movie of waveform!

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Hello Dwane,


good work ! the best way to estimate the power you get is charging a capacitor, i am waiting to see your progress !


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good work ! the best way to estimate the power you get is charging a capacitor, i am waiting to see your progress !


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Hi med.3012,

Slow going. I have rewound the block with the infinity in mind. Not absolutely sure of the wind, so I wound a substitute test using dual speaker wire using each half of the core as the R and B - E - TBC. Still works, although your concept will probably be better, as the output seems a bit lower than the first wind using the 4 x ETBC. Wasn't too sure of connecting X and X within the infinity wind and if I should make one continuous ETBC and wrap between cores. Decisions decisions!

As far as the voltage is concerned, I am running the trial set-up through a bridge and into a Capacitor. Two issues. One I need a better power supply, the NST is shocking for this work. I do not know how Don coped with one unless he was able to determine the impedance of his NST output and couple it as a matching device? Two, I am over 500Vdc across the cap as I write and it is still going. This has taken about an hour!! You will now understand my concern with getting power supply that will pump some energy into the system.

The good news is that I have achieved a productive level higher than my previous incursion with Don's devices. Thanks to you!

Edit: There is one other thing. I am getting high voltage pulses across the capacitor as it is charging, might this indicate some dryness or leakage with the capacitor?. The diodes I am using are 20Kv at 2amp.

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Hi!


The M-ETBC is the proof of concept , i don't know if it can be used as energy harvesting device or no , another important pieces of the puzzle is the conductive tube used in D Smith presentation





i don't think he demonstrate this to show us Lenz's law, because Lenz's law is simple to understand even though very hard to bypass, in my opinion he used this conductive tube to over load the primary coil , in other words it's a kind of third coil used between the primary and the secondary coil to lower the inductance and produce huge magnetic field , another possible scenario is he used it to supply a perpendicular magnetic field as a right angle component !



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The M-ETBC is the proof of concept , i don't know if it can be used as energy harvesting device or no , another important pieces of the puzzle is the conductive tube used in D Smith presentation





i don't think he demonstrate this to show us Lenz's law, because Lenz's law is simple to understand even though very hard to bypass, in my opinion he used this conductive tube to over load the primary coil , in other words it's a kind of third coil used between the primary and the secondary coil to lower the inductance and produce huge magnetic field , another possible scenario is he used it to supply a perpendicular magnetic field as a right angle component !



Hi med.3012,

Thanks for the reply. With the infinity coil I get a much faster voltage build up across the capacitor. Poor current collection. I shall wind another M- ETBC wrap today. I have a day or so off from building, due to Building Inspection and waiting for roofing supplies. I thought that the above demonstration was about eddy currents. As far as I was concerned, being told to wind L2 first, was associated with the importance of eddy current capture.

If I was able to continuously circulate and increase the current flow through the infinity coil, I felt that this might improve the flux through L2. My fear was that of being able to control the growth of current/flux, which might cause a lock up of the process. Anyway, I shall fiddle with it today and see if the M-ETBC makes a difference.

The other issue in this configuration is a binary driver to the coil, which demands a perfect balanced relationship between pulses and coil winds for the circular nature of the process.

At the moment, I have resorted to single pulse, which may also be afecting the current output. At the moment i am getting lots of positive spikes but very little radiant return spikes. Maybe the infinity coil is upsetting the formation of negative returns. With the ETBC, no problem!

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Hi med.3012,

Here are a few photos that will tell you what is going on with my interpretation. One observation, and I do recall someone mentioning this before, in the no light photo, the "new" 240 volt LED globes light up, the incandescent globe does not light but does not interfere with the power to the other globes. This is the infinity wrap. L2 CW,CCW. The voltage rise is quite quick.

Edit: here is the circuit i have been playing with to see if I can collect some "Ambience!" Also, used a single pulse, where a dual pulse might be better?

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Hi med.3012,

Here are a few photos that will tell you what is going on with my interpretation. One observation, and I do recall someone mentioning this before, in the no light photo, the "new" 240 volt LED globes light up, the incandescent globe does not light but does not interfere with the power to the other globes. This is the infinity wrap. L2 CW,CCW. The voltage rise is quite quick.

Edit: here is the circuit i have been playing with to see if I can collect some "Ambience!" Also, used a single pulse, where a dual pulse might be better?

Regards

Dwane


Hello!!


it's very nice to see the light .. according the schematic you start to grasp the idea , what's about power measurements , the in versus the out ?

i had the same idea as your but never tried it , at the moment i am working with just one ETBC ! keep informing me about your test so i can give a better reply .

W E L C O M E



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it's very nice to see the light .. according the schematic you start to grasp the idea , what's about power measurements , the in versus the out ?

i had the same idea as your but never tried it , at the moment i am working with just one ETBC ! keep informing me about your test so i can give a better reply .

W E L C O M E



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Hi med.3012,

I don't mind experimenting when i know what I am doing! With the M-ETBC it looked like it has some possibilities of circulating energy. I recall Walter Russell expounding on the opposing vortices with an interchange at their junction when the energy flipped. This reminded me of that.

Of concern to me on the output of what we are testing here is the inability of converting the "hot" energy. As I showed, I had two inductive lights and one resistive light. As there was a low power threshold I would have expected the resistive globe to have dampened the energy to the other two globes. This was not the case. Therefore, I presume I was generating radiant energy. If the energy produced cannot be used to encompass all loads, what good is it? Maybe the reason for this dilemma is the low current and only voltage was being produced? What abounds in the forums and in others' expertise is the conversion from cold to hot! What I am not getting. I recall that it was on a thread by UFOPolitics demonstrating the production of Radiant energy where he replies that the resistive load does not work.

So, what am I doing? I have not been able to source an explanation for the resistive anomaly. This ETBC exercise, fruitful as it appears at an academic level, may be limited in its practical application, and on several fronts. I do not think I have the time at present with my other work commitments to pursue this line of energy research.

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I don't mind experimenting when i know what I am doing! With the M-ETBC it looked like it has some possibilities of circulating energy. I recall Walter Russell expounding on the opposing vortices with an interchange at their junction when the energy flipped. This reminded me of that.

Of concern to me on the output of what we are testing here is the inability of converting the "hot" energy. As I showed, I had two inductive lights and one resistive light. As there was a low power threshold I would have expected the resistive globe to have dampened the energy to the other two globes. This was not the case. Therefore, I presume I was generating radiant energy. If the energy produced cannot be used to encompass all loads, what good is it? Maybe the reason for this dilemma is the low current and only voltage was being produced? What abounds in the forums and in others' expertise is the conversion from cold to hot! What I am not getting. I recall that it was on a thread by UFOPolitics demonstrating the production of Radiant energy where he replies that the resistive load does not work.

So, what am I doing? I have not been able to source an explanation for the resistive anomaly. This ETBC exercise, fruitful as it appears at an academic level, may be limited in its practical application, and on several fronts. I do not think I have the time at present with my other work commitments to pursue this line of energy research.

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Hello Dwane,


The ETBC is still not understood completely and still not driven into full power due to its complexity, in other hand there's no resource on the whole internet talk about it unless our PDF the resonance energy device explained ! the compacted Tesla wireless power transmitter model is the key, i failed with my model the D-ETBC but there's a new alternative to it explain exactly how to make the ETBC take a copy of the power being disturbed ..

the real ETBC is a short cut of 4 Tesla wireless towers and i am very surprised when i see Don Smith show us 4 tower coil in the education experiment !!!





no problem if you want to quit the energy research , it's your life ,


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Hi med.3012,

Now you are misquoting me! I need to get some time off, the building is taking its toll - it has its own level of stress and unpredictability! Where the Energy thing should be a relaxation, I find other issues which I am unable to resolve, and, which have have there own level of stress. With the building, I can see where the issue is, with a broken radio I can see where the issue is, with the radiant energy, the issue of resolution is a lot more difficult. It is more undefined and can be quirky.

I need a frigging break! Have one planned for June! Will I survive the wait? I think so. Unfortunately, I am one of those mugs that try to turn a failure into success. Who really gives up?

Edit: In a dream last night I cut my amorphous core in half to stick a copper tube into it! Dream on, Eh!


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