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You should read Tesla article from 1900 or other documents where he described the empty box lying deep in the dormant lake....the useful and novel method of extracting and converting potential energy...
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Thanks for the input. Without having to endure several weeks reading tombs of Tesla documents, would you have a specific reference for me to read?

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Hello med.3012,
This replication is on my todo list, next off the cab rank! Unfortunately life gets in the way of our leisurely pursuits. I have also read your Mohammed document, including part 2. My observation of the "Empty Box" noted by boguslaw, which I defined as being filled in suspension, I see as the challenge to develop.

I shall post my replication hopefully next week, I shall be better armed with information about the device having built one!!

edit: just out of curiosity, is there any preference for winding direction for the above circuit, that is, CW or CCW?

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Hello med.3012,
This replication is on my todo list, next off the cab rank! Unfortunately life gets in the way of our leisurely pursuits. I have also read your Mohammed document, including part 2. My observation of the "Empty Box" noted by boguslaw, which I defined as being filled in suspension, I see as the challenge to develop.

I shall post my replication hopefully next week, I shall be better armed with information about the device having built one!!

edit: just out of curiosity, is there any preference for winding direction for the above circuit, that is, CW or CCW?

Thanks

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Hello Dwane,

i did that experiment just to see if i am correct or wrong so no deep improvement since i have a big obstacle using high voltage, the ferrite core is CCW ( around 160 turns not 80 T ! my mind stuck in the half because i made two coil 80 t each, most TV Yoke can be divided into two parts )


do your test and try to figure out what's going on, the resonance is important because you need the two part of the gathered neutrino particle , at the moment i am focusing in the use of ETBC in electrotherapy at least to benefit from this technology, i made a Tesla violet ray machine based on the ETBC as primary coil ( one copper foil and another aluminium foil )




i test it against headache and it's great for instant relief, it can be used for a lots of illness and disease , i know this is an energetic forum but the healing power is for our body energy , the key factor of using it in healing is the amount of power that can be drawn from the environment.. so it can be very strong against diseases ..
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Have started the build! Finished the Mazilli last night will start the tower coil today, will use .72 wire as that is what I have available.

I wonder if your UV lamp will stop tinnitus! Now that would give us sufferers a lot of peace. We will never know what silence is again!

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It has been discovered that tinnitus is a deficieny in vitamin B3, B6,and B9. stealth
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It has been discovered that tinnitus is a deficieny in vitamin B3, B6,and B9. stealth
Thanks for the observation. Too easy! As there is about 10% of any population suffering from tinnitus, you could think that a concentrated effort would have been made for a solution. I think your suggestion is preventative medicine. Here is one of quite a few links to some of the vagaries of treatments for this frustrating affliction.
Top Five Remedies for Tinnitus – Dr. Emily Kane

To really confuse the issue, try a doctor google search. Unfortunately, there is no single diagnosis for tinnitus.

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Hello Med.3012,
I have read so much in the last day or so. I am now a bit confused. For winding the ETBC do I wind one coil and use CD for the sg, or do I wind two ETBC CW and CCW and close CD on each coil and use the two CD points for the SG or have the two CD points open and fire two sg's?

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Hello Med.3012,
I have read so much in the last day or so. I am now a bit confused. For winding the ETBC do I wind one coil and use CD for the sg, or do I wind two ETBC CW and CCW and close CD on each coil and use the two CD points for the SG or have the two CD points open and fire two sg's?

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Hello Dwane,

the SG in CD don't produce the power, i learned this across the time , the old post show the progress , not all the info are correct, FIG 59 in my PDF show the correct usage , if you want to use Mazzilli driver please lower the diameter of ETBC , the reason is THE ETBC have to be close to the tower coil in order to light the bulb ( this obviously a capacitive induction )

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The length of foils is 2 meter each with 20 cm width , the used metal is the aluminium in this test now if you have a problem soldering the Aluminium with copper wire please use a mineral oil , see this video for details

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in this photo ;



you see the connections was made in just one side! this is to facilitate working since it's easy to make the junction CD, the ends of ETBC A AND B is located in just one side, this is also good.

in high voltage you can use only the half of ETBC to excite the whole coil ! what does this mean ? it mean you can excite it from AC and DB remain out of the excitation circuit but it will oscillate as expected using the primary current that charge the foils electrically !
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Have started the build! Finished the Mazilli last night will start the tower coil today, will use .72 wire as that is what I have available.

I wonder if your UV lamp will stop tinnitus! Now that would give us sufferers a lot of peace. We will never know what silence is again!

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the story about using the ETBC as therapeutic device was when i noticed an increase in my energy when i touch the high voltage tower coil ( the coil has 1000 turn with 0.15 mm wire very thin ) , one friend has a pain in his left hands asked me about the circuit he see, he don't know anything about high voltage , i turned the power on to show him the nice painless high voltage arcing even though it warm the point where the electricity contact your finger, he did the test and told me the pain is gone !! i don't know about his problem but i told him this electricity is beneficial for health at least what i have read from the internet about Tesla electrotherapy devices ; i also noticed sleep induction at night , it's clear this electricity work in harmony with our body, it's also beneficial in heat loss in the body especially these days in winter , the most amazing experiments is when used for headache ,with a closed eyes i put the bulb in the upper front of face and slide it right and left i felt if a hidden hand entered my head to give a massage to the brain !!! some will not believe this but this is what i felt .. the pain gone instantly .

electrotherapy is an entire science, most physician don't know the difference between transverse waves and scalar waves a cooperative work is needed, the following schematic was used as a Tesla violet ray device :





NB ; i don't encourage anyone to actually build the device i post this for education purpose not for therapeutic purpose!


teach yourself before !


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Hi med.3012,
I also spent some time watching your youtube videos. This is where I think the confusion set in. I have wound the tower. I have used the 0.8mm gauge wire on a 50mm poly pipe and 600 turns, the length of the winding is 489mm. I have wound the coil before I have seen the alteration to dimensions. It is raining again today, so I shall look at winding the ETBC and toroid. Although I think my toroid might be a bit smaller than yours. Will see how it goes.

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I also spent some time watching your youtube videos. This is where I think the confusion set in. I have wound the tower. I have used the 0.8mm gauge wire on a 50mm poly pipe and 600 turns, the length of the winding is 489mm. I have wound the coil before I have seen the alteration to dimensions. It is raining again today, so I shall look at winding the ETBC and toroid. Although I think my toroid might be a bit smaller than yours. Will see how it goes.

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Hello Dwane,

the tower coil look very nice ! 50 cm is good but keep in mind the self resonance frequency of this coil not to be lower than the resonance frequency of ETBC , as Don smith proposed not to make it ground itself for this you can lower the resonance of ETBC, for example if this coil resonate in 400 KHZ you can make the resonance frequency of ETBC at 260 KHZ as example, to see the ETBC oscillate just connect it to Mazzilli driver, A and B is the whole coil , X is where the positive AS follow





don't worry about the torroid if you lower the diameter of ETBC to be near the tower coil , more radiant energy can be sent to the tower to be converted to light the bulb.

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Hello Dwane,

the tower coil look very nice ! 50 cm is good but keep in mind the self resonance frequency of this coil not to be lower than the resonance frequency of ETBC , as Don smith proposed not to make it ground itself for this you can lower the resonance of ETBC, for example if this coil resonate in 400 KHZ you can make the resonance frequency of ETBC at 260 KHZ as example, to see the ETBC oscillate just connect it to Mazzilli driver, A and B is the whole coil , X is where the positive AS follow





don't worry about the torroid if you lower the diameter of ETBC to be near the tower coil , more radiant energy can be sent to the tower to be converted to light the bulb.

good luck

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Hi !

i forget , you have to remove the capacitor from the circuit because the ETBC form its special built in capacitor! i hope you noticed this
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I am going to have to rewind a new tower! Using the Function generator I am getting 271Khz with my 600 turns tower and 411khz with my ETBC! Back to front! I am worried that if I wind a wider diameter tower I shall have to expand my ETBC coil: which I suspect would increase its frequency. Maybe I shall wind a wider tower and leave the ETBC alone and put it inside the Tower?

Time is against me at the moment. Lots of bricks still to be laid, still about 1500 to go before I can start cladding the Roof and the weather is looking good!!!

Edit: Just to be clear, after using the Mazilli driver to test frequency of ETBC, when running Mazilli circuit, I put the .68uf cap back and connect the HV to AB?

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I am going to have to rewind a new tower! Using the Function generator I am getting 271Khz with my 600 turns tower and 411khz with my ETBC! Back to front! I am worried that if I wind a wider diameter tower I shall have to expand my ETBC coil: which I suspect would increase its frequency. Maybe I shall wind a wider tower and leave the ETBC alone and put it inside the Tower?

Time is against me at the moment. Lots of bricks still to be laid, still about 1500 to go before I can start cladding the Roof and the weather is looking good!!!

Edit: Just to be clear, after using the Mazilli driver to test frequency of ETBC, when running Mazilli circuit, I put the .68uf cap back and connect the HV to AB?

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Hello Dwane,

it's nice to start your first ETBC oscillating, i suggest you to try this arrangement for now, try to slide the ETBC to high position so you can get rid from the problem of frequencies , in my case the tower coil resonate in 500 KHZ the ETBC resonate around 400 KHZ.
the best position for the ETBC is to be outside the tower coil in this case we are sure it's the master coil.. if it's inside the tower the magnetic resonance will be confined, another solution which is very easy is to remove a few turn from the center of tower so it will be divided, the resonance frequency will increase without a lots of efforts !

if you success in this we will think how to move to HV, so we can discuss the expected problems , you can experiments whatever you want but i will give my opinion for better results, be sure the ETBC is well isolated.
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Hello med.3012,

Here are my first tests for frequency. Measurements using Mazilli primary coils. Frequency is not 100% stable. Fair bit of + _ drift making photo capture difficult. Also, getting a very small spark across the Tower when inserted into ETBC. Quite a lot different to what I expected. I am thinking that I have to do some serious adjustments. Photos say it all!

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Hi med.3012,
Just an observation. When I measure the zvs input to the Mazzilli fets with the capacitor connected, I am getting around 225khz. As soon as I connect the ETBC I am getting 700khz! This is some serious feed back. Also, connecting the HV to the ETBC shows only a reading at the input of the ETBC. No reading along the foil coil. Further, I have to do some matching with the tower, as there is absolutely zero reading across the output. Hmmm.....

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Hi Med.3012,
Have a small issue with the Mazzilli driver. Running on its own terms with the 0.68uf tuning cap, runs just fine. As soon as I disconnect the 0.68uf cap and connect the ETBC, I have a radiator, more like a short circuit across the fets. Also, I am reading 10+Mhz at the Mazzilli!!

Hmm...

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the proposed ETBC should work just fine with Mazzilli driver , i
tested another ETBC with a ferrite rod all the night and it work good,
yes the MOSFET will get hot slightly, i am using IRFZ44 since they put
a relatively small power into the circuit, just verify the isolation
of ETBC open X junction and measure the capacitance also measure the
inductance through AB the whole coil, find the resonance frequency
using coil32 software for quick results, multiply this frequency with
2 , FX2 = THE RESONANCE FREQUENCY OF ETBC, mazzilli driver
sould work around this value, also verify your geometry maybe there's
error in connections, for example you have a red and a black foil that
form the ETBC before you connect them the most important is the
position of X junction which have to be like Tesla bifilar .. we just
use foils instead of wires !

the best frequency that suit the ETBC in Mazzilli driver should be
below 2 MHZ , i have an ETBC work in 1.6 MHZ the following photo show how bright fluorescent tube.

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Hi Med.3012,
Thanks for the advice. I have isolated the ETBC and the Mazzilli coils using capacitors. If I do not use capacitors the fets will blow! I have the connections as you have stated them to be. With the new connection I think I might be under 2Mhz at the tower or close to it. The ETBC is now ringing at just over 1Mhz. The wave form is unique and not sinusodal. More like a series of damped waves. I get one good wave then a sort of half wave. Does not seem correct. There is a good build up in the centre of the tower. Well I think there is.
I am a bit tired so off to bed. Hot day tomorrow so early start 06:00 while its cool!

Will study you reply more carefully tomorrow and will take a couple of wave photos.

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Hi med.3012,
i have attached images of the set up and wiring.

Red = A
Blue = C
Black = D
White = B

according to the Mohammed.pdf. Or a bifilar connection. I have unrolled the ERBC as the photos show and the colours of the wires and their location. The foil is wider than your specification of 200mm wide.Length is same. I have used Heavy duty builders film 100um. The foil is heavy duty "Super Strong" kitchen foil. I have taped the solder joints in case they might have penetrated the film when bound. Meterering shows no cross connection before bifilar jointing.

I have run this again and the frquency is maddening. I have removed the caps and run directly as per your instructions for connecting to the Mazzilli. The Frequency counter starts off at 5+Mhz and progresses up to 17+Mhz, by which point I am unable to see the waveform on my old scope. The fets - i am using IRFP460 as I have blown the IRFz44 up! At 17Mhz I have turned the unit off! It is begiining to get too hot! The frequency is puzzling. I have 5 + 5 turns on the ferrite core. And, I think my ETBC should be reading a greater capacitance than your 200mm wide: and especially as I have wound on a smaller diameter forme.
I am reading 9uH fr the ETBC coil and not that I am convinced, .377uF for the capacitor component.

I am wondering if the frequency runaway is due to the 460's not being able to cope with the current flow.

This is where I am at.
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Amazing!

Hi med.3012,
as the photo shows this is working for some reason I cannot explain at the moment. Leave it alone for a couple of hours and it comes good! I have turned it off. The fets are sizzling. I have to get a fan forced heatsink set up and some new fets. What is still a problem is that the ETBC unit is running at 6.33Mhz! My tower, I have no idea how fast that is running. Not going to put my counter across it!!

Evidence below!

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Hi med.3012,
The cicuit is running at arounf 500Khz, according to the scope. The "radiation from the set up is perhaps sending mixed signals to the frequency counter. The ETBC has an inductance of 62uH and a capacitance of .115uF. Approximately 60Khz.

Now, when I have the system running and the globe lit, all we have is a straight forward transformer conversion. at low brightness, the system will run all nightTo prove this, all I have to do is touch the tower coil and the globe doubles in brightness. if I continue for a minute or so the fets blow. That tells me that the globe is only being lit by the available energy being supplied to the system. Maybe this will change at higher voltages, because higher frequency alone, at this level, will not alter the power equation.

Another hot day tomorrow, early start again. Good night!

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congratulation Dwane !


this is something gladdening if my analyse is correct i suggest using another thick aluminium foils the same as the proposed video about How to Solder copper wire to aluminum foil,if it's the same Super Strong" kitchen foil please solder it using any mineral oil, sometimes Olive oil do the job !!! you have 4 connections if anyone fail or work partially the system don't work good , this is the first note.

when the ETBC run in this arrangement it also receive radiant energy from the tower coil which go back to the MOSFET make them run hot, the foils are a good antenna so they will receive a good amount of power , don't worry about this because i noticed this too but the most important is you have successfully replicate one of the famous Tesla experiment, this circuit is also important in high voltage because it's easy to maintain the resonance of ETBC when we take the power from it, also we don't worry too much about the radiant feedback that make the MOSFET run hot ..

good night you too !

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Hi med,
Just to be clear, going through the thread, the aluminium strips used backed with packaging tape are being wound onto a TV wire wound yoke? My recollection of yokes is they did not have ferrite cores but were wound straight onto the neck of the tube. just looking to see if I under stand positional effects!!

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Going to be a little while before I am able to garner the parts. To get the copper foil, it has to be posted. Wrong time of the year for speedy postal services. Maybe a week.

So, no news is not always good news. Meanwhile, I should be planning my next move on the ETBC!

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