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First, you said that we need to have SG in HV, now you said that SG is not here?



if you read the previous post you understand ... the SG in CD as desribed in the PDF can't give the desired results.. so we need to make the SG outside , if you are good in electronic you could resonate the ETBC in HV using mosfet .
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If I understand, if we have direct resonance we doare not need spark gap, and yes, I know how to oscillate with mosfets, but HV mosfets are not cheap. Is my first statement true?
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I dont understand l2 coil, is it one normal coil or some kind of receiver transmitter coil, if it is R T coil how to wound it?
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I dont understand l2 coil, is it one normal coil or some kind of receiver transmitter coil, if it is R T coil how to wound it?
according Tesla friction is always present even in electrostatic induction.. the art is to minimize them, this suggest to use two coil one as receiver the other as transmitter as you told, but if you have stable fixed standing wave you can eliminate using the T coil since the condition for bouncing waves exist the T coil isn't necessary .
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how to wound it?

i don't have a clear idea about this but i guess the R coil must have the highest voltage, the R coil can be made by trial ..
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Hi Med!
I don't have the time to test it now but if you have, I think using the "JackNoskills" coil capacitor with open end as the primary and wind your ETBC over it, with open end either, as the secondary it might give interesting results...

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I don't have the time to test it now but if you have, I think using the "JackNoskills" coil capacitor with open end as the primary and wind your ETBC over it, with open end either, as the secondary it might give interesting results...

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thanks for your input, each experiments will teach us something, at the moment i am taking a long repose, i think i am tired and need a little rest, any advance will be published at real time !
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Hi Med!
Just let you know today I have some spare time to test what I have suggest to you in my last post but have no good results with it...
I archive better results with multi layer bifilar coil open secondary.
Will let you know if I reach interesting results.

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Just let you know today I have some spare time to test what I have suggest to you in my last post but have no good results with it...
I archive better results with multi layer bifilar coil open secondary.
Will let you know if I reach interesting results.

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hi Wistiti !


thanks very much about your interest in this technology , the idea behind the ETBC is very simple.. how to convert voltage into current, more voltage is better especially in the primary side , this is why this experiment show something very important when we rise the voltage in the secondary side to see the effect of this amazing geometry ..

i attached some photo to see the simplicity of the experiment, the distance between the ETBC and L2 have to be small to see the effect ( the bulb will light ) the reason for this is the low voltage in L1 , 12 V is still very very small to see a significant power so a little amount of power is a proof, L2 have to be not in the center of L1 so you can take a good amount of radiant energy ..




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Med, from which insulator you made ETBC, I wish to make it from wax paper?
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Med, from which insulator you made ETBC, I wish to make it from wax paper?
hello,


i already gave all the measure of ETBC, about the insulator i am using it's only good in low voltage but in HV i heard an internal spark inside the ETBC! so i have to change it when start again in HV read the previous posts , any question please ask :-)
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hello everyone .


this is a small update to my PDF the resonance energy device explained , show the similarity between Tesla wireless energy transfer and Don Smith device or at least this is what i think !

it also explain energy balance , electron spin with a lots of drawing to make the idea clear, read it and give your opinion !


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hello everyone


just to put the final document with the above update :

www.free-energy-info.com/Mohamed.pdf

some very interesting notes can be extracted from the above document but still not discussed ..
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If I understand correctly from your information that a shake-up of the
ambient might enable an increase in the current penetrated in a solenoid.
That a measurement could show an increase in the magnetic flux density.

Also that you asked to wait to discuss the Med.3012 replication / modification of Donald Smith Demo.

Those following could review video of Walter Lewin on the quantitative
methods. How the flat plane of a closed loop and Ampere's law was adopted by Maxwell for solenoids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dCChkEGi_c
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If I understand corectly from your information that a shake-up of the
ambient might enable an increase in the current penetrated in a solenoid.
That a measurement could show an increase in the magnetic flux density.

Those following could review Walter Lewin on the quantitative
methods used to show this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dCChkEGi_c
thank you for the nice video of Walter Lewin ( this man is amazing ) , the problem with the ETBC is the absence of electric current since it form an open system; the same as Tesla wireless energy system even though we need an electric current initially to excite the ETBC, simply imagine you have a permanent magnet as you know it has the ability to draw power from the ambient because we have a free magnetic field all the time ..

if we want to treat a solenoid as a magnet we need an energy balance, in permanent magnet it's iron atom spin or what we call magnetic domain , this mean there's a perfect symmetry so in each side you have the opposite spin which create the north or the south pole .


to do the same thing in a coil we need to merge the electricity with magnetism so they form the same entity , as discussed in my PDF we just need the following combination :




you will have what we call an ETM coil , two ETM will make an ETBC, you have an emitter but the receiver will work in open environment, this mean we don't have Lenz's law , excess of energy is secured from the environment because the ambient is shaken back and forth .. this is my idea but still other enhancement can be made especially how perfectly excite the ETBC and how to maintain this excitement with lowest power possible .. how speed the excitement can be and what's the best method ? finally how to convert this amplified scalar electromagnetic flux so we don't see a degradation in ETBC oscillation , some question has the answer , other still no answer, practical experiments will show more !
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If I understand correctly from your information that a shake-up of the
ambient might enable an increase in the current penetrated in a solenoid.
That a measurement could show an increase in the magnetic flux density.

Also that you asked to wait to discuss the Med.3012 replication / modification of Donald Smith Demo.

Those following could review video of Walter Lewin on the quantitative
methods. How the flat plane of a closed loop and Ampere's law was adopted by Maxwell for solenoids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dCChkEGi_c


as i see an update in your post so i watched the full video to understand but in the end i understood that the induced rotating electric field is the less understood field in electricity , they call it the no conservative electric field , prof Walter Lewin made a very interesting statement IN a very simple circuit please see the two short video !

Video demonstration: Part 1 and Part 2

https://youtu.be/eqjl-qRy71w


https://youtu.be/1bUWcy8HwpM



other professors in the university can't believe what prof Walter Lewin explain , the problem here is the flaw in understanding this amazing electric field, in reality it's a mistake to call it a no conservative electric field, this field is what make Don Smith over energy device a real machine , even Tesla has benefited from this field in wireless energy transfer mechanism , now the things will be even more complicated when dealing with scalar fields either an electric scalar field or a magnetic scalar field , in my opinion we need to simplify the things through studying the geometry .. it's not always easy but i works !!!
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Med, very good I appreciate your logic.up
@t >31.0 he explains the closed loop integral should not adopt Kirchoff's net
in the term for non-conservative circuit that Faraday's method always works.
Later explains using an electrometer to get a sum requires the same thinking
that may not be intuitive with regard to closing a loop.
It is good you recognize conservative / non-conservative dilemma in testing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQN7Dke9pX8

Mr. Ampere's method adopted by Maxwell on Don Smith coil needs to consider the wide spacing of the coil.
However now focus is on translating Smith's reference that we must shake the ambient of near field.
So Ampere's law. Also the non-intuitive approach that does not modify terms or the method with electrometer
A cloud of charged particles (positive and negative charges) are at rest. (feable and not vitreous)

Getting current to flow. ( (reinforcing the electric charge to do work) vector E, vector M, vector E, vector M ...)
First just the cloud (or charges) has very small amount of magnetic component. It is called an electric field.
Moving charges produce magnetic fields (Ampere’s Law)
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What reinforces the electric field when you snap together an electo-magnetic waveform is:
Moving charges produce magnetic fields.


On a separate note involving vortex. Actually it is connected
and coherence issues are getting better. Simple will be better
however does not explain D Smith demo principal on moving charges
in a non-conservative framework. Let's see some spirals and movement.

Movement of Photons is an electromagnetic wave. Grateful for this simulation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Zd3AOEFA
A puritanical vortex is a good choice but not the only vehicle for movement. Also there is the choice of quantum level or ionic.
So a good and simple choice for movement of ions begin to make use of mechanisms leading to a more refined vortex flow.

Another example of vortex stream refinement with air worth looking at because improving drag aerodynamics should help
to see that moving ions with vortex at low frequencies sonic and acoustic can exploit conservative electrical principals
in order to bridge the gap between non-conservative and conservative systems must be understood first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP-YUDe9HF0

The development of electrical understanding allowed for a not so clean vortex.
Now simulation and video allows under graduates better chance of grasping concepts to
simplify and make DIY improvements. The benefits of better vortex flow in some areas not all.

The Tesla photo of the magnifier shows less than perfect symmetry. The design that
promoted sloshing was not by accident.
Tesla magnifier.JPG
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Med, very good I appreciate your logic.
@t >31.0 he explains the closed loop integral should not adopt Kirchoff's net
in the term for non-conservative circuit that Faraday's method always works.
Later explains using an electrometer to get a sum requires the same thinking
that may not be intuitive with regard to closing a loop.
It is good you recognize conservative / non-conservative dilema in testing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQN7Dke9pX8

Mr. Ampere's method adopted by Maxwell on Don Smith coil
also needs to consider the wide spacing of the coil. However we need the shake it up factor or
Ampere's law. Also the non-intuitive approach shown that does not modify terms or the method with electrometer
A cloud of charged particles (positive and negative charges) are at rest.
Like not separating subjects of small signal and amplification. Just getting hung-up on impedance network matching.

Getting current to flow. (reinforcing an electric charge to do work)
This cloud (or charges) has very small amount of magnetic component. It is called an electric field.
Moving charges produce magnetic fields (Ampereís Law)
Attachment 19788
What reinforces the electric field when you snap together an electo-magnetic waveform is:
Moving charges produce magnetic fields.


On a separate note involving vortex. Actually it is connected
and coherence issues are getting better. Simple will be better
however does not explain D Smith demo principal on moving charges
in a non-conservative framework. Let's see some spirals and movement.

Movement of Photons is an electromagnetic wave. Grateful for this simulation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Zd3AOEFA
A puritanical vortex is a good choice but not the only vehicle for movement. Also there is the choice of quantum level or ionic.
So a good and simple choice for movement of ions is by a less pure vortex.

Another example of vortex streams with air worth looking at because improving drag aerodynamics should help
to see that moving ions with vortex at low frequencies sonic and acoustic are non-conservative as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP-YUDe9HF0

Development allowed not so clean vortex so continued development will
now have public knowledge that will improve sonic and acoustic flows.
Tesla photo of the magnifier.
Attachment 19787

Thanks for the detailed video of Walter Lewin, i agree with him it's criminal to teach the wrong physic to student especially the advanced electricity , as you know there's a lots of things need a review for example the displacement current in a capacitor ! because it's an open circuit there's no real current there ! another problem appear what's the correct notion of an electric current since we made one that could flow in an open circuit ( a capacitor !!!??? )

here i agree with DS that there's no electric current but electron in point A agitate electrons in point B , this give the possibility of Tesla wireless energy system as well as other systems depend on something similar , in my case the ETBC since it's a compacted Tesla wireless device act internally so there's no loss but only energy production , keep in mind the effectiveness of Tesla wireless energy system so there's a very small loss compared our modern energy transportation system , if the same system implemented in small area energy gain take action, frankly i am not very familiar with quantum mechanic and vortex , so i can't discuss these subjects fluently, in my opinion there's a very easy logic behind the resonance induction system of DS, we only need to free ourselves from closed circuit that we learned at school ...
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Hello everyone !


this is a detailed post about a previous made experiments as described in the following drawing ,



the next photo show the bulb lights up :





another photo show the voltage in the secondary side of the ferrite transformer :

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the next step is to understand the nature of electric current produced in the primary of the ferrite transformer, in my opinion this current has a strange characters .. it flow in both direction at the same time !! this is also understood because Tesla coil ( 600 T ) show node and anti node, a wave and another reflected wave have to be taken into consideration when dealing with output transformer , both waves have to be present in the primary side so we could harvest the power easily ..
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Hello everyone,


just to share some interesting simulation results using NI Multisim regarding the effect of resonance in parallel LC, the following image show a resonating L1C1 where there's a huge current circulate , in practice it's not possible to achieve such value due to the presence of resistance , the simulator work in a virtual conditions where there's no resistance in wires, perfect capacitor , perfect coil, we can't offer this in real life ..




i tried to simulate the same thing using square waves where's the duty cycle in 10% ( this is important where we drive a MOSFET , with 10% the MOSFET remain cold)




now removing the diode we see the current decrease !!!



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now reversing the diode position , the current increase but not as Don circuit!


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it's obviously we need a pulse transformer to accomplish such requirement, it's easy to build a variable frequency variable duty cycle driver for a MOSFET, the question , how to drive a transformer to make such HV dc pulse ?

ANY IDEA ?
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Am I missing the point?

Hello med.3012,
please excuse any comment I make. I have no intention of being insulting.

I am only up to page 9 of this thread. The content is very deep indeed. One might almost say convoluted at times, in as much as the topic seems to appear as if it is going somewhere but ends up back where we started. How to extract the energy! This is not a criticism. Indeed your continued patience to determine an outcome is to be admired.

However, at the outset, once realising that the outcome was the collection of "energy" within the capacitor x, it occurred to me that the discussion appears to be be a bit stereotypical. That is, all that seems to be occurring is a constant rearrangement of the same items where it would seem to be impossible to aggregated the two elements that are being sought: electricity and current. To my mind, I feel that there should be another dimension to the collection process. It would seem, from the discusion so far for me, that we are able to manifest electricity and manifest current.

I am mindful of an experiment during Biology 101! he lecturer held up a glass tumbler of water and poured some dye into the water and announced "diffusion". She then picked up another tumbler containing a thicker solution and poured in some fine ground particles from an element I do not recall. She stated, "colloidal suspension"! This is what we have here in our capacitor x, a colloidal suspension. The other thing that is bugging me is this. As we are interrupting the "Aether" and all that we are taking from it and placing this into the capacitor x, and, within the same space so to speak, why should we have an expectation to gain energy from a remanent static field? All we appear to have done is to rearrange the local field, yet, still hold the elemental content as static?

Now, if what I state has a reality, then we should be able to identify the juxtaposition of the energy during its rearrangement. Then, it should be possible to evacuate the "colloidal" component with say a third party.

Just my thoughts.

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You should read Tesla article from 1900 or other documents where he described the empty box lying deep in the dormant lake....the useful and novel method of extracting and converting potential energy...
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Hello Dwane !

thank you for your interest about the ETBC , extracting the power from the ETBC isn't difficult, take the following experiment as a reference !



the resonance of ETBC isn't affected too much since the used circuit is still open , i noticed a slight change in its frequency during this test, now if we could do the same thing using higher voltage the result will be over energy device,
the X point as a one dimensional capacitor is a reference point and not energy collector , this is what Don Smith call an energy balance mechanism , the idea is to convert voltage to current directly using electrons spin ( electrons spin is the only explanation how the ETBC oscillate ??! it took me a long time to understand this )

the beauty in the proposed circuit is the ability to convert high voltage directly to low voltage DC in the second transformer ( ferrite )

the easy way to understand the ETBC is to imagine a permanent magnet that can change its polarity without being rotated !! the changing speed is a magnetic resonating system because the ETBC oscillate in twice the normal frequency ( i did this test personally and i found 2.2 2.3 more speed than the normal resonance speed ! in theory i expect twice since the induced rotating electric field charge the foil capacitor instantly when the electrons change the spin the power is drawn directly from the environment, keep in mind the example of permanent magnet, the magnet rotate immediately to change the polarity at this moment you have useful radiant energy it's very high power due to the speed of magnetic resonating system , the electrons in this system turn around its axis with a very high speed and transform its shape to be a ring electrons , ring electrons look like an excited neutrino particle it oscillate and show a negative side and another positive side and so on , this capability turn the device to energy harvesting mechanism and also it's possible to manage it in open circuit ( one wire power transmitter )


part two in my PDF show the similarity between the ETBC and TESLA wireless power transmitter , the ETBC is a compacted TESLA wireless system! TESLA use the earth as a capacitor and the ETBC use the X junction, without earth ground the system don't work at least this primary arrangement .






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