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why more replicators ?


when doing some experiments the gained power increased when changing the L2 connections... L1 also has an optimal value, the high voltage power source will play a critical job in this system, the diodes also need a lots of attention ..

in a simple words this system must be tuned to the best value to give the intended power ... until now i burned about 26 diodes, a lots of work is needed, one person can't do it alone, even Tesla has some helpers ...
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hello everyone,

this is a short video show a 7 neon light bulb lightning when my hand approach, the speed of capacitor discharge increase when something is near the light bulb, finally using the earth ground slow down the discharge speed, using the ground in the middle of the bulbs increase the lightning, so the best position of the ground is the middle ..

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Hello everyone,

i noticed a similarity between Floyd Sweet explanation about his device and the mixed E-TBC :

Floyd Sweet said:
“If the directions of the two signals are such that opposite H-fields cancel and E-fields add, an apparently steady E-Field will be created. The energy density of the fields remain as calculated above, but the value of the E-field will double from 𝑬/𝟐 to 𝑬.”





i published this drawing a couple of month ago without noticing this, it's exactly what Floyd was talking about,the magnetic field in each side is opposite while the electric field will be doubled, but my system isn't the same as his system, in my system we need a kind of electromagnetic feedback, i tried to make this between the two side of the Mixed E-TBC as the following image :



i tried two scenario, the first is to make the magnetic field to oppose each other, nothing exciting happen, the second scenario is to make the magnetic field the same direction, again nothing exciting happen.

as i said Floyd sweet system is another kind of OE device, but they all have some similarity.
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i noticed a similarity between Floyd Sweet explanation about his device and the mixed E-TBC :

Floyd Sweet said:
“If the directions of the two signals are such that opposite H-fields cancel and E-fields add, an apparently steady E-Field will be created. The energy density of the fields remain as calculated above, but the value of the E-field will double from 𝑬/𝟐 to 𝑬.”
Hello med.3012 I am busy but I have time to post this here.

Relating to the Floyd Sweet quote, there is additional information to prove that he is correct.
If you read about Michael Banks, you can read exactly the same and he shows that it's correct (he doesn't know anything about Floyd Sweet works).

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Floyd Sweet said:
“If the directions of the two signals are such that opposite H-fields cancel and E-fields add, an apparently steady E-Field will be created. The energy density of the fields remain as calculated above, but the value of the E-field will double from 𝑬/𝟐 to 𝑬.”
Banks explains the same. If you cancel a part of the EM wave, then you have the double of one component. In his case, the current was the double after cancelling the electric field. Even he is able to use a single wire to send pure current waves. From that pure current waves you can obtain electric and magnetic waves.
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Hi AetherScientist,

nice to see you, i agree with you but i just share any found information that i feel it's important even the test i did show something else, canceling the magnetic field gave a poor results, adding the magnetic field also gave a poor results in the new arrangement when the two side of the mixed E-TBC are superposed as to achieve some kind of electromagnetic feedback like a single E-TBC ... i also failed in achieving the phase shift between the two side of the mixed E-TBC when they separated ( this can be seen in a single transistor oscillating using this device ) i will share the scope graphs from the latest test ( this evening ):









the third graph when i enlarged the space in the spark gap, i also tried using a single E-TBC in the same setup but i wasn't able to see any significant charges in the capacitor banks! but using the mixed E-TBC i can charge a capacitor of 2 UF ( no polarized ) relatively fast, lighting a bulb of 220v / 13 W is possible using a no polarized capacitor ( it's a problem of the appropriate load, because it's not possible with the same capacitor to light a bulb with 12v/24W )

using the mixed E-TBC i am able to collect the power from only one side, so this device is far from the single E-TBC! as i said before using only one E-TBC there's no power, two E-TBC to form the mixed one you have the power even from one side !!!
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I'm still not clear where you are getting more power Med. If you keep a closed system oscillating, at a high voltage, it is doing so at the limits of the input power. I also am not familiar with the E-BTC, can you point me to its documentation?



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Thanks for your contribution, in reality we have a lots of options to deal with the capacitor, about the E-TBC here you are my document http://free-energy-info.com/Mohamed.pdf

the idea is to find the power in one point not between two point like ordinary coil, this is why it's better to use conducting foils, if you are able to oscillate this device correctly you will be able to replicate your power thousand of times... when you see the foils you think you are working with electricity not magnetism but this is not correct! and this is the paradox in this device, i did a mistake in my document as stated before the junction CD must be closed because it's the path for electric current, this system is not a closed, it's an open system able to attract electrons with radio frequency speed, now the problem it's not easy to manage this system this is why i am thinking about other methods where we could charge a relatively low voltage capacitors ( around 450 V) since this is the most practical voltage we could work with.
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Med thanks for the link and information. I love reading where people start trying to understand the mechanics of DS devices, and thus enumerates our one sided view of electricity and magnetism. The two coils wound in opposite directions remind me of the phase conjugate stuff I hear about helpful plasmas or Russel's cones. Also the coils can be switched out with copper pipe and you get a Tesla hairpin circuit, something Tesla dragged to every show. Med do you have any videos of what you have built and a summary of how far you have come?
you are welcome, i am planning to produce more videos but i am busy at the moment with some tests, you are right about using a toroidal arrangement because it's the best way to ensure the best electromagnetic feedback inside the E-TBC, it's also possible to use a bifilar arrangement but it's better to use conducting foils to collect ambient electrons, so we could achieve the needed increased oscillation.

i noticed this when i tested a large turn number E-TBC in high voltage, i was able to see the effect of increased oscillation but i failed in the mixed E-TBC, more test have to be done for the final conclusion, i can't tell exactly how far i am reaching at this moment because we need a proof ... if you want to try something i suggest you to start directly with toroidal system, you could start with the mixed E-TBC if you like since it's two E-TBC, how you build the E-TBC on a toroid ferrite? like any bifilar coil just use foils instead of normal wires, you could use two turn in a place and move the half of foil width so the next turns is relatively over the first .. etc ... with the other turns, it's better to wind your bifilar coil all along the toroid circle, just count your turn number for example you made 10 in the primary, the secondary have to be 40 turn, now make the same for another toroid core, make sure to connect the two E-TBC as to form a mixed one... you need to concentrate with a ferrite as a core you will achieve around 1000 more feedback inside your primary ... in other hands greater current will be induced in the secondary, the only problem is the reduced frequency, for sure there's an optimal values we have to work with but it's great if you test this and tell us the results.. so we could compare our works and see the weak point and the strong points also !

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just to refresh this thread! i think it's better to start from here discussing the resonance energy device technology involving the ETBC and its related devices .
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you are welcome, i am planning to produce more videos but i am busy at the moment with some tests, you are right about using a toroidal arrangement because it's the best way to ensure the best electromagnetic feedback inside the E-TBC, it's also possible to use a bifilar arrangement but it's better to use conducting foils to collect ambient electrons, so we could achieve the needed increased oscillation.

i noticed this when i tested a large turn number E-TBC in high voltage, i was able to see the effect of increased oscillation but i failed in the mixed E-TBC, more test have to be done for the final conclusion, i can't tell exactly how far i am reaching at this moment because we need a proof ... if you want to try something i suggest you to start directly with toroidal system, you could start with the mixed E-TBC if you like since it's two E-TBC, how you build the E-TBC on a toroid ferrite? like any bifilar coil just use foils instead of normal wires, you could use two turn in a place and move the half of foil width so the next turns is relatively over the first .. etc ... with the other turns, it's better to wind your bifilar coil all along the toroid circle, just count your turn number for example you made 10 in the primary, the secondary have to be 40 turn, now make the same for another toroid core, make sure to connect the two E-TBC as to form a mixed one... you need to concentrate with a ferrite as a core you will achieve around 1000 more feedback inside your primary ... in other hands greater current will be induced in the secondary, the only problem is the reduced frequency, for sure there's an optimal values we have to work with but it's great if you test this and tell us the results.. so we could compare our works and see the weak point and the strong points also !

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Good work med. I just read through this whole thread and have learned a great deal from your writings. I am interested in building an ETBC and am wondering if you have any specifications I should adhere to. The first one I built was to your specs that are in your PDF. I only had it hooked up about ten min and blew a hole through it. Very different spark sound through cd. I am going to be making s few more of these. I am running a little over 32 kHz out of my zvs. And my voltage is unknown. I have a higher voltage set up that would make all my wires jump and my capacitors hiss. The wires where very much attracted to my fingers. Interesting effects. So where should I start with my dimensions. I also have toroid's from TVs and can get more. Thanks again for all the energy you have put into this adventure. Keep it up ��
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Good work med. I just read through this whole thread and have learned a great deal from your writings. I am interested in building an ETBC and am wondering if you have any specifications I should adhere to. The first one I built was to your specs that are in your PDF. I only had it hooked up about ten min and blew a hole through it. Very different spark sound through cd. I am going to be making s few more of these. I am running a little over 32 kHz out of my zvs. And my voltage is unknown. I have a higher voltage set up that would make all my wires jump and my capacitors hiss. The wires where very much attracted to my fingers. Interesting effects. So where should I start with my dimensions. I also have toroid's from TVs and can get more. Thanks again for all the energy you have put into this adventure. Keep it up ��


Hello njones308,

Thanks for your nice post, the ETBC when the CD junction is open the same design as the published PDF will work as a voltage producer, the missed point here is the electrons spin separation mechanism, one of the unknown or at least hidden mechanism that we don't know, a friend helped me in discovering this when he noticed what we call serial passage inside the ETBC, in other words this passage is nothing than spin changing behavior, when this happen the ETBC can give real active power, to be clear it's the point where we could combine negative energy with positive energy, the two form the ambient background energy...

this device is really special and interesting but the most important thing we have to notice is it's an open coil, because it's open we have to use a kind of ferromagnetic materials since we don't have the needed mechanism to make it oscillate, the internal capacitor of the ETBC can't do this job alone, so the possible and most easy arrangement at the moment is to use a ferrite ring, whatever you have a TV YOKE is good also, i am working on the possibility of power multiplication gain, there's a lots of scenario one of them is using The Alexkor Zero-Back-EMF Coils techniques but the problem is the shape of TV YOKE don't allow this, so we can work either in L1 or L2 but the best way is still L1, i don't have a specific dimension at the moment just a try, but more inductance is always good !

more info will be published soon if good results is obtained.
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self charged capacitor ?!


is it possible to make a self charged capacitor under some conditions? i saw this in some test, the capacitor (4700UF/50V) was self charged to 20V, shorting the leg isn't enough to discharge it !!! i repeated the discharge operation but no way ! after that i connected two LED and they was lighted, in some condition the discharge of radiant energy create something very special in the capacitor make it self power !

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in the above experiments i tired to recharge this capacitor again, but the phenomena ceased to appear ! i tried a lots after that without success, the reason for that is i have to use a new capacitor that never charged before !!!
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Conditioned capacitor.

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a.king21 had a post on 2-14-2012 that is interesting...
It's still in google's cache.

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a.king21 had a post on 2-14-2012 that is interesting...
It's still in google's cache.

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Thanks so much for your post, just to attach a.king21 words here :

Conditioned capacitor.

OK.

When you first pulse a capacitor, (ac or dc capacitor) it behaves normally.
DC pulses can be as low as 80 volts, but need a sharp impulse, which we call radiant energy. It has been found experimentally that the capacitor also behaves almost identically to Stanley Meyer's water capacitor which has been replicated by Dave Lawton. Both types are pulsed.
After approximately 12 hours of continuous pulsing a change occurs in the behaviour of the capacitor. In the case of the water capacitor it develops a nano coating on one side only. When measured with a resistance meter it shows no resistance at all. That is the secret of the HHO Meyer/Lawton OU cop 300%. (Plus resonance!!) One can say that one side becomes quasi superconducting. In the case of an ordinary capacitor, there is no reason to believe that it behaves differently. The capacitor also goes OU. This means that
1 it charges much faster than before.
2 When the power source is switched off it carries on charging! Yes you read it correctly. In my case it fires pulses for up to 3 minutes after switch off, which is why they are dangerous. The firing decays exponentially although I haven't bothered to scientifically tabulate it. I leave that to others.

So you can have two identical capacitors side by side. One behaves like it's plugged in to a charger, the other behaves normally.
All capacitors self charge to a certain extent but conditioned capacitors are something else! I have tested a neon on a conditioned capacitor through two earth rods 10 feet apart. I gave up looking at the lit neon after half an hour!
I guess you could say that is OU.
(Batteries behave exactly the same way - which is why Bedini says that the overunity in his system is in the batteries.
I regularly charge a 1.6 kw car battery bank, and after switch off the voltages go up!!)

I have also tried 5 seconds of ON time and two minutes of OFF time, and the capacitors continue firing pulses.
However the rate of firing is much less when the power is off than when the power is on.
A further point. If you fail to use the capacitors for a while - in my case it was three weeks or so - you have to start the conditioning process all over again.
In my case conditioning them again was harder and seemed to take days rather than hours. Again I did not do this scientifically, because I thought that there was something wrong with the circuit at first, until the conditioned behaviour returned.
Needless to say I condition all my capacitors and batteries these days. It's become a habit. Because the process is cold charging you can charge non-rechargeable batteries this way. In my case two out of three batteries are OK, and curiously they charge to a much higher value than their rating. I guess I've emulated Bedini's radiant charging. You can charge them normally also and they don't heat up as much.Weird I know, but that's how it is.
Bet you won't find this stuff in any Physics book!!
So, don't take my word for it. Do the experiments, and let's add to our OU knowledge base.
A final point: The capacitors are COLD. The wires leading up to them and out of them are COLD. The belt you get from them is HOT!
It is the INTERFACE between COLD electricity and HOT electricity.
Now if you read Zilano, maybe you'll understand better.
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this phenomena is important to study because the capacitor banks are very important in the resonance induction system .
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just to post a request regarding high frequency DC pulse and its impact inside a capacitor, i am wondering about the effective way to charge a capacitor banks, in some test it's possible to charge 1.2 MF /450 V capacitor pretty faster but lowering the capacitor voltage made the charging speed more faster ... for example if the capacitors is 4.7 MF /50v it will be charged in a few second ... now it's all about the effective way to charge the capacitor banks and the best voltage , in this case calculation is a must , what do you think ?
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it appear the ground work good when the system work in optimal condition, this mean the more the system produce power the more the ground work better .. this is why in some level the ground seem to be useless, finally the resonance will be the goal for this device to work better.
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Just to add some technical info about the ETBC so the idea will be clear and easy to understand , the story of this device is to convert reactive power to active power or unreal to real

if you take a look at ordinary L/C circuit where you have a capacitor in parallel with an inductor you have a phase shift between current and voltage, this is known as unreal power or reactive power ..







The ETBC take advantage of the two together , please take a look here :





the ETBC is able to convert reactive power to active power because the inductor form the capacitor and vise versa but we have to notice the point where this happen, this phenomena appear exactly where the capacitance cancel the inductance in other words in X location where CD is closed, this imply the need of high current to activate the ETBC power but don't worry ! the ETBC can work effectively with reactive current which mean high voltage resonating system lead to high reactive current is still wattless... the ETBC see this current and convert it to active power without problems, you can see this when you choose a high capacitance discharging in the ETBC, this is why we need the resonance ...
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I am a silent reader and I apreciate your effort.
Thank you very much for sharing your research.

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I am a silent reader and I apreciate your effort.
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Hello Kent !

Thanks so much for your encouragement, the Insistence is needed in this filed but unfortunately very few have the patience needed, i worked with some friend for a couple of months and now when i am able to see some significant power no one is around me ( except one ) to share the same design and discuss the problems, this is needed because in some place in the world it's easy to find almost everything you need so the progress can be fast... i thank everyone gave a help even morally but sometimes i ask myself if what i am doing is really needed ?

the idea is clear ...we just need a little push to make it for real, more contributor is what we need at the moment, the primary device must have a little power production, for example 600W an inverter will be a good idea to start with ... more ideas is ready now i am looking for more people
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Did you put some magnetic core (iron lamination or ferrite)??
Thank you for sharing your great reasearch! It is apreaciate.
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this another reply about the same question, as you know this device is still under development , i wasn't sure about my past answer but now things start to appear

ferromagnetic material is needed in this device because we have a special built in capacitor that must be recharged in zero time ( twice the normal frequency ), ferromagnetic material will catch that magnetic domain and emulate the capacitor charging behavior... as you know this is a magnetic resonating system so
the main player is the magnetic field not the electric field, if we manipulate this field correctly the result will be unbelievable
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self charged capacitor ?!


is it possible to make a self charged capacitor under some conditions? i saw this in some test, the capacitor (4700UF/50V) was self charged to 20V, shorting the leg isn't enough to discharge it !!! i repeated the discharge operation but no way ! after that i connected two LED and they was lighted, in some condition the discharge of radiant energy create something very special in the capacitor make it self power !

any thoughts ?

Hi Med, I think this is very normal behavior of large capacitors. I come across this quite often. Sometime I am discharging cap for couple minutes. I guess more can be found on google The capacitance plays here big role. Any way, how are you?

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this another reply about the same question, as you know this device is still under development , i wasn't sure about my past answer but now things start to appear

ferromagnetic material is needed in this device because we have a special built in capacitor that must be recharged in zero time ( twice the normal frequency ), ferromagnetic material will catch that magnetic domain and emulate the capacitor charging behavior... as you know this is a magnetic resonating system so
the main player is the magnetic field not the electric field, if we manipulate this field correctly the result will be unbelievable
Just some thought, about the ferromagnetic domains. I guess that ferromagnetic material should be as thin as possible to change the domains quickly. Thicker the material more time delays resulting in incoherence?? I would try just to spray the thin layer of black sand?
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Some more my thought and Spaming I pretty much agree with Romanov who says the OU device should be tuned to the environment where you are located. If this fail you, will get interference resulting in not working device. And this is double true if the earth is implemented in the system. I have made the the scanner of my environment. It does open the transistor in natural environmental frequency. It might be worth to try it out with your device to??
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Some more my thought and Spaming I pretty much agree with Romanov who says the OU device should be tuned to the environment where you are located. If this fail you, will get interference resulting in not working device. And this is double true if the earth is implemented in the system. I have made the the scanner of my environment. It does open the transistor in natural environmental frequency. It might be worth to try it out with your device to??
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Hello John !

All is Ok, thanks for asking, the electrolyte capacitor behavior is just interesting for me because it's the first time i see this, in other hand when recharging the same capa the phenomena gone ... for sure there's a special environment made inside the capacitor by the radiant energy that came from L2 , just sharing the experiment

thanks for your information about the ferrite ring because i am planning to build a large one, the optimal geometry will help a lots.

about tuning.... the ETBC show a solid behavior, as you know we failed when focusing in voltage only without understanding the whole picture, now it's the turn of reactive current which is the other side of high voltage in a resonating L/C tank circuit ...simply the high reactive current is the image of high voltage so you can secure a high voltage in the ETBC ( CD CLOSED... now we are dealing with a coil ) if the resonance is achieved, the resonance is the best option and i predict a huge amount of power...

in the ETBC we don't have an electric current as we know it, only electrons spin but we still have a built in capacitor that must be charged in zero time... this imply the use of magnetic wire or a ferromagnetic material to catch these magnetic domain and emulate the unreal current that charge this special capacitor ...

at the moment i am able to charge a 100UF to 300V in 5s and discharging it using a 40W /220V light bulb .. the input is 3w, this device show an increased output power if treated internally correctly... in other words it create it's own environment.

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Some more my thought and Spaming I pretty much agree with Romanov who says the OU device should be tuned to the environment where you are located. If this fail you, will get interference resulting in not working device. And this is double true if the earth is implemented in the system. I have made the the scanner of my environment. It does open the transistor in natural environmental frequency. It might be worth to try it out with your device to??
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can you please explain more about this idea ?
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update

just to update this thread from Don smith review thread :




some practical aspects :


the following photo show two separated aluminum foils, aluminum is available and relatively cheap, the ribbon used here are off the shelf:



the second image show the used tools :



to be continued ...

at this moment i am using a connectors to connect the conducting wires with foils, it's the best way since they are available and secure a stable connection ...



the first step is to make a small hole in the foils :



connect one side of this connector, prepare your wire for this contact as follow :



to be continued ...

now it's the time to put the cap of this connector as follow:



it's the time to make some effort !




to be continued ...
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the following image show the connector from bottom.




finally two prepared foils




you need 4 of these connectors so each side has two contact, the final product will be like that after adding an insulator



to be continued ...

another view of the final wire,



now this is the used TV YOKE, the ferrite have to be insulated since it's conductive



this is the first turn,




to be continued ....

this image show other turns :





and voila !




any furthers questions are welcome about how to construct this device, the following image show a 100W light bulb at full bright using only one toroidal and 6 turns in L2, caution is needed, the system is really dangerous, especially in the capacitor banks.



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Hello everyone ,


just to post an interesting Blog by Lawrence Rosier about Don Smith device, some interesting info are there !


PERPETUAL ELECTRIC
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just to share a short video show 100UF capacitor charging to 300V in about 4 second and discharging the power into 200V/40 W light bulb, the input power is 3 W, what do you think ?





if you can't see the video here you are the link :

https://youtu.be/lo0dRiKWUOc
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Hello everyone ,


a new video published for the follower of ETBC design show a good improvement and can be found in the following link :




or https://youtu.be/a0FNZZywgng

Just ignore the security warning that appear in some explorer like firefox or chromium !


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