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in this technique we will use as discussed a third coil with discharge mechanism for amplification purpose, this will avoid the need of extreme tuning since it's difficult to achieve, the natural resonance will be ensured in the active ETBC as you know, the quality of this resonance will be good if high inductance will low capacitance is provided, i am still thinking about the positions of earth connection, here maybe we will follow Don Smith schematic, one earth connection in the minus of electrolyte capacitor and another in third coil in one of discharge legs, this will help forming the standing waves if two well determined voltage are provided ( they are the two earth grounds ) , the distance between those ground have to be more than 3 meters ( this is a guess ) to allow high frequency oscillation.
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High inductance with low capacitance -Tesla builders (Eric Dollard) would say: "The self capacity of the coil is minimum when the diameter is equal to length, roughly 1 uuF per centimeter of diameter".
Just as a matter of interest on the picture below one of the devices I am building. It is a new Tesla transformer for my previous build (on the screen) One would guess how many common rules and principle those our devices have. On the other picture is my previous build of the E-stress generator. Not sure what I did wrong, I just couldn't get a voltage on the middle capacitor. I might to take a look at it again.
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Hi John, Hi everyone,


yes there's a lots of common characteristics in OU devices, the E-stress generator seem to be a complicated device, in my opinion the upper and lower electrostatic capacitors must have a higher voltage, in other hand the shape of these capacitor will play a critical rules, sometimes the fundamental rules can be modified, for example gauss law surface can be modified to be a no asymmetric surface:

take an example the following virtual capacitor:



you have two cylinder capacitor with some deformed shapes as shown, gauss law tell us if the integral is zero, the sum of charge is zero, but in the above virtual capacitor this integral will no equal to zero due to concentration of charges in the lower plate, you have D1 and D2 , D1 is very small compared to D2 , the integral will no take D1 into consideration, you will end up with more negative charge than positive charges and this is a kind of amplification !
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First of all i would like to express a good wishes for Eid ul-Fitr (celebration when the fasting month Ramadan is finished)

In this post I am going to share some thoughts about electromagnetic induction compared to electrostatic induction and the difference between the two methods used to generate electricity using either an electromagnetic transformer or electrostatic transformer....

The word electrostatic transformer isn't new but the concept here is different, some info about the known electrostatic transformer can be found here:

Patent US5187421 - Electrostatic transformer - Google Patents

electromagnetic transformer use a core to transfer the magnetic field from primary to secondary, here we use the magnetic portion of the two coils, this mean the mutual induction have to be relatively high for better magnetic energy transfer, low speed is better to reduce the generated electric portion ( less radiated electric field ).

In electrostatic transformer we have to use effectively the electric portion rather than using the magnetic portion, the two coils in Tesla wireless power transmitter do this job when they form a kind of capacitor (the spheres), the secondary large number coil ( in the transmitter for example) are for generating a very high electric potential using a pulse technique …after that it’s important to have the sphere for better transmitting the generated radiant electric field ( radiant energy stream)
The following drawing show a transmitter and a receiver and the values of radiant electric field where it has a max value in the transmitting sphere it take a min value in the receiver coil ….





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Hi Med,

Below is my replication of Ruslan's device. It also should work on he basic principles of high potential field and right timed pulses (creating standing waves etc...) I am not sure about that Tesla's "capacitor". It looks to me more like extension of the Tesla coil . Ruslan says there should be max voltage peak on that capacitor (the end of 1/4 wave). From your point of view, is there any reason why to use the thick wire and not a bar with the ball at the end, inside of that tube? The aim of this device is also to have voltage aligned with the amps, like in your ETBC

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Below is my replication of Ruslan's device. It also should work on he basic principles of high potential field and right timed pulses (creating standing waves etc...) I am not sure about that Tesla's "capacitor". It looks to me more like extension of the Tesla coil . Ruslan says there should be max voltage peak on that capacitor (the end of 1/4 wave). From your point of view, is there any reason why to use the thick wire and not a bar with the ball at the end, inside of that tube? The aim of this device is also to have voltage aligned with the amps, like in your ETBC

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can you please give the schematic you worked with ?
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Hi Med,

Below is simplified drawing of the device and my sketch fom what Ruslan said.

In fact it is working like that:

You tune the grounded pick up coil and the current coil to common resonant frequency. (standing waves)
Tesla fires only at every 2nd (positive) amplitude on the coils. - synchronisation is necessary.

My Tesla is driven by one transistor Brovin's Kacher, and push-Pull is made from the signal generator and CD 40... divider driving two Mosfets.

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is there any reason why to use the thick wire and not a bar with the ball at the end
after reviewing the schematics i think it's normal to use the thick wire rather than using a ball... a ball in the end is suitable for back to back system which form a kind of serial connection but in your replication it's a parallel interaction when there's some stage for current collection , the thick wire and it's diameter prove this ( at least what i understand )
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Sorry for this late post about the last discussed idea concerning the conception of electrostatic transformer, we still need more contributors to this thread especially replication .

electromagnetic transformers are based on coils and magnetic field changing speed, they work better in lower speed where the electric portion is small.

electrostatic transformer are based on electromagnetic scalar field, they work better on high voltage ( more electric field ) high speed is needed too, this mean we need high voltage high frequency, the magnetic field in ordinary transformer isn't similar to the magnetic field generated using scalar waves, if the magnetic field form a closed loop in ordinary transformer here in electrostatic induction form a kind of open loops !!

i don't have a proof about this but an ordinary capacitor is an example of the complexity of this special magnetic field which work in harmony with the electrostatic field inside a capacitor even if this field is changing in AC mode but it's still an electrostatic field regarding the separated plates ...

the capacitor form a kind of electrostatic transformer, one plate is the primary while the second plate is the secondary, in my opinion this explain single wire power transmission, electrostatic induction follow logarithmic law where the logarithm of zero lim log(x) = -infinity, so only one wire could transmit the power while the zero point go to - infinity and can be taken from the air, earth ground or even the empty space, zero point is any point outside the active circuit .

if we take the earth ground as zero point the electric current don't flow directly in the active circuit but it's hidden under the ground !

the above is an introduction to the new plan to extract the power from the ETBC , this device follow electrostatic induction concept, in the previous posts i suggested some circuit to extract the power from this device but they all lack some needed steps, the objective is to find an easy but affective way .

the past/future light cone which describe the work of this device is still needed, we know with good details how this device act but in order to take the power from the ETBC it's better to know how to reverse the operation.

in positive side we manage the power from A to B passing through X point but due to the wrapped time-space field in negative side everything start from X point ( this is the virtual short circuited AB points)

in other word we have to find a way to end back again into AB point in order to have a useful electric power, we have to reverse the operation by forcing another passive ETBC to work in reverse mode compared the active oscillating ETBC , the third large number coil is still needed for amplification purpose, the active ETBC have to be larger than the third coil for performance purpose, this will avoid completely the problem of lanz's law because the third coil will work only with the one dimensional capacitor in this situation we will have the third coil oscillating with the one D capacitor ( this is discussed and tested previously using two parts of ferrite rods inside an ETBC)

the new idea will be as shown :

the SG2 can be a neon light bulb for discharge purpose, in practice the circuit can be modified or tuned, for example changing the position of active ETBC across the third coil will lead to changing the frequency ...
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the evidence about Don Smith resonance device !


what's really behind Don Smith device STILL can be found on his famous PDF!

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Smith.pdf

there's a strange schematic i didn't noticed very well until today , the schematic prove that the ETBC is what form the primary coil !
please notice the element number 9 in the following schematic :



in the description number 9 is the reactor or induction coil but there's a minus and plus in that coil! so it's not a coil ! it's a capacitor but it's not possible to induce a voltage in the secondary with only a capacitor !!

the following zoom describe more !




the only positions are not visible are the position of spark-gap but in my opinion it's a sign!
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The importance of reversing the operation in order to extract the power from the resonance E-TBC



In this post I will try to explain the particular characteristics of an oscillating E-TBC and why it’s important to take some serious reservations for better accessing the available power.

in a previous post i discussed a proposed circuit about reversing the operation in order to extract the power from the E-TBC, now we have to know why this operation is needed.

the ETBC work in both side, it work in negative side to produce radiant energy and also in positive side to produce electromagnetic radiation which flow in divergence , radiant energy flow in convergence which made the active vacuum to supply more power to it , the mutual induction inside radiant energy do exist, the fact that the current flow in vertical direction of voltage flow explain why amplification is possible using this kind of energy , the following drawing show the process of energy conversion :



the process of conversion look like adding another light cone to the original existed cone which make the ETBC work as energy producer device, without proper method radiant energy ( cold electricity in the wire ) will end in the active vacuum very soon due to its convergence behaviour, this explain why we have to use 3 coil rather than 2 coil , the third coil work as energy transfer for reversed operation purpose now i am thinking about the resonance ?!

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Hi to All,

just to put two schematics of DS, one i found it here in the forum , the other from the old video Donald L Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium, the two schematic are incomplete, the following is the second one which show a capacitor in red circle, it's clear we are working here with cold electricity, conventional electricity can't be treated like that, here we have a kind of one wire power transmitter exactly like Tesla wireless system but in the output stage DS changed the frequency back to 60HZ ! here there is no resonance like Tesla system!

i think the red capacitor do this job, it provide a kind of resonance or discharge mechanism( discharge mechanism provide a kind of natural resonance ) radiant voltage flow in serial from GND1 to GND2 while radiant current can be supplied using one diode or full wave diode bridge, radiant current is a kind of electrostatic potential , for this system to work in optimal condition we have to provide a kind of resonance, OK let's give the first drawing here :




the second drawing seem to be more advanced system with standing waves working in it ...
please notice the earth connections and the red point ...

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Hi to all,

in this post i am going to add an important video talk about electron spin and magnetism, it's a short video ( about 6min) but very simplified:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl-zUmeYj74

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in the above video we will meet a very interesting characteristic about electron and its related twisted space, this is a crucial phenomena regarding extracting the power from the E-TBC, simply we need to reverse the operation in order to have useful electrical energy, please watch the video
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Nice video.
This is why we use opposite coils to separate charges. Mobius strip is interesting phenomena. Time ago i wnted to make a coil of this shape and to observe some effects.
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HI John,

welcome back! Yes it's one of the best video i like to watch, i need to arrange my ideas to start experimenting again..... , one of the best phenomena that worth to be tested can be found in the mixed E-TBC, one of the strange phenomena when this device was oscillating is the ampere meter reading a high amperage ( more then 4A ) in just one side of the mixed E-TBC but the amperage drop in the other side, all this without direct connection !!

everything is related to each other, the problem in the mixed E-TBC is you have to load it in equal, this mean the phase shift can be 45° rather than 90°! or even 0° which mean you will be back to the reactive energy problem if you load the mixed E-TBC without equilibrium, we are dealing with invisible particle that can we found in twisted space, so careful studies is good even some friends don't like the theory but i like it because i don't have the needed time and the resource to do a lots of experiments.

i hope if we could make something as soon as possible
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Hi Med. As you said, everything is related to each other. More I am diging through the theories and laws more I can see how close we are to have free energy and only tuning process is what we do not right.

I realised that when I saw how distance between two coils change not only resonant frequency, but also the phase shift between them. In other word- distance matter!
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HI John! you are right the distance matter! in Tesla wireless system the distance was related to waves length, Tesla did some mistake to learn when he tried to record the event of lightning without success, the reason is the wrong tuning after that he applied these info in his wireless system to transmit the power to large distance, this is possible with the right tuning.

free energy will be a must with global warming problems and dangers, in some country the temperature goes to 72° degrees, in Algeria we got 56° in some town (200 KM from the sea ) , the electrical grid will no longer support the huge demand in the nearest future, a cost effective device is needed !
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HI John, hello everyone, a special greeting to the followers of this thread , after the post of john and after his proposal about tuning, i will propose a new schematic that can be tested with the E-TBC , this thread has a lots of good info that have to be managed correctly, this is why i ask the help of member here for test or ideas, we can't depend on Don Smith resources only! if we do so we will not move further more, the only device shown to the public in operation was a long time ago in black box ...


i remember a test a did before about the E-TBC when CD connection was closed, the test was done with high voltage source, the test show the ability of this device to keep the power for long time when CD is closed, the strange is that this device was totally isolated from any source of power... it's like a coil keeping electrostatic charges!

this test prove the power of E-TBC when CD connection is closed, if good tuning is achieved it can start with a few watts to produce a huge electromagnetic flux, the E-TBC is composed from three different elements all in parallel, they are R, L and C:



the idea above is to make the magnetic energy higher than the electric energy for great efficiently because it's the magnetic field which make the feedback inside this device, finally the proposed circuit will be as follow :



the idea is known and practically easy to build, it consist of using two capacitor in serial to feed the E-TBC, this will ensure a great voltage between coil side AB since the voltage between the main SG will equal the voltage fed into the E-TBC, now if we are able to tune the high voltage power source oscillation so a max voltage is always available, the results will be further great.
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adding some comments:

what make the above circuit better than using the connection CD as spark gap is all related to the connection between the three elements make the E-TBC a valuable device they are R,L,C, using CD as spark gap will give a good but very short resonance since the third elements is missing which is the parameter R, this player will tell us how good the feedback inside this device is working ? without R the oscillation will die out very soon and this is shown in the previous oscillation graph, the above circuit will ensure a permanent oscillation !
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Regarding to your RCL cuircuit, becouse the natural loses, it will end up with dumped oscilation. Now I will citate something what makes me think: " If you apply opposite magnetic field OR opposite current AT right time, the frequency will be self sustaining (not dumped) "
Now why it makes me to think? Becouse two days ago I was watching YouTube video where some guy was sh
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Regarding to your RCL cuircuit, becouse the natural loses, it will end up with dumped oscilation. Now I will citate something what makes me think: " If you apply opposite magnetic field OR opposite current AT right time, the frequency will be self sustaining (not dumped) "
Now why it makes me to think? Becouse two days ago I was watching YouTube video where some guy was sh
owing how the two opposite coils kept stable waveform after disconection of the source.

Hi John, just a quick reply because it's late here( i need to sleep )
the technique you talk about can be done in low voltage using some synchronization, but it worth to be seen if you can give us the video link, our device have to be fed all the time , we can't isolate it , in other hand even the increased oscillation have to shut down and start oscillating and increasing or the device will be destroyed .... here we have energy amplification, the magnetic field inside the E-TBC isn't homogeneous, so it's not a coil nor a capacitor but both at the same time, you still have a special electromagnetic feedback inside the E-TBC, if the the magnetic portion is good you will have automatically a good electric portion and the amplification is there... one of the most big problem i faced with the ETBC is the time needed to charge the capacitor bank in order to use them for loads, anyway i have to prove my point of view with practical test for better reliability.
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Hi Med.

I know it is coil and the capacitor together.

I will try to find that movie link about un-dumped oscillation.

There is a Russian guy called Mischin. The coil - capacitor is his speciality. He has made a device based on this principle . It looks like a toroid and it take almost nothing and he can lit the LED. I am at work by now. When I will come home I will post you some links or make some sketches for you. His videos are very long (each is nearly an hour long) It is quite hard for me to follow as I am not native Russian speaking . I am Czech. Living in Ireland

70°??? That's mental. I already do not know how the sun looks like Many rainy days here this summer with temperature around 19°
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Hi John,

everything is related to each other you remember, in the south we have a big desert, in some places the temperature exceed 55° with easy, in the past they use a special building to protect themselves from this severe climate, now they use air conditioner, our national TV Weather forecast will never say the real temperature !! if they do it will be a Disaster area... i think this is happening to the whole world and they never mention the real dangers we are facing!

anyway it's always good to see OU devices, i don't understand Russian also, but i watch other video even if i don't understand what they talk, sometimes i pick up the idea across the schematic, sometimes i got an inspiration, powerful devices can depend on modest ideas!
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Hello everyone, just a small idea to share:





EDIT: this is just an idea likely the two capacitor was for impedance matching this mean they used in parallel not in serial as the circuit proposed.
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hope you are doing fine, where is the video link ? OK hope you have something new ?
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Hi Med. i can't find it! I have checked all history and it is not there. I am more than week without mine main computer. Should get a new processor today or tommorow. Once will be my computer alive again I will check if is it between my downloads. I have made my video dedicated to Komarov's device. now a bit messing with that here A. Komarov - YouTube


Edit: On your picture, I think they are not just a regular caps. If I good remember , they are "custom" made and they tune them-self?
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Edit: On your picture, I think they are not just a regular caps. If I good remember , they are "custom" made and they tune them-self?

HI John, nice video, no problem at all, i thought you had that video at hand, i saw a guy in you tube talk about that capacitor which is impossible to find but they can be found! you could see them on that video, it's clear DS was talking about very special capacitor that must be built locally for example the E-TBC!!!, i think i got the key about using the standing wave in his device, day by day the pieces of puzzle is collected, i just need some experiments, there's really no need to use very high frequency to achieve a manageable standing wave length this is really strange but the length of the waves generated using the E-TBC is directly related to the length of 1/2 foil form it ...

electrostatic induction mechanism is the key for this special phenomena, this is why it's important to manage the length of L2 according the length of 1/2 foil, for example if 1/2 foil = 1M it's better to have L2 as 4 meter, the E-TBC has a form of special standing waves this is visible when we talk about the induced electric field for example 0---v the first foil v----2V the second foil when superposition the magnetic field take the same symmetry, this is another advantage to use the capacitor as coil, as a parametric oscillator a lots of players take place to change the normal rules , we already know the frequency is twice compared normal oscillating LC tank, experiments will tell more !
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