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Old 11-10-2014, 06:18 PM
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Topic: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

He is asking for help to get this out to the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqWU12Db_MY

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsi...rfQBviad7JjvQw

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Very Interesting indeed, so the rotor and stator stay stationary with a moving soft iron center is that right?
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Very Interesting indeed, so the rotor and stator stay stationary with a moving soft iron center is that right?
Boy, that's what it looks like to me. And a fairly straightforward conversion of existing generators is possible with the right machining equipment. If it truly works, it's a darn ingenious method of avoiding Lenz Law.

The thing that stumps me is:
Since this concept has been patented, folks all over the planet should have running units. Maybe Sterling Allan's QMoGen page is for real...?

This is probably worth attempting a simple prototype replication. I think I would avoid putting a hole in the magnet side and instead use a split coil core and run the shaft in from the other side.

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This would be interesting with more construction details. If you have any luck getting those detailed drawings he shows in the video, please share. This concept and its deviants have been around almost as long as electricity, but the devil is in the details. Without coil and circuit details we might as well chase our tails. Seems like this Ramadan guy would be a good place to start if you could get his contact info.
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I wonder

I wonder how these guys figured it all out? Maybe they took a pile of very small motors and cut them up and played and played with those til they found something. Sounds like UFO to me.

I can't really see any detail whatsoever in the diagram so it's very grey. They dynoflux patent and many more will give us some ideas. Maybe someone with a desire to do this kind of work should look in "Prior Art" in the Patents.


We have nothing to go on as far as I can see.


Back in 1980 a guy i know said he got plans from magazines that showed people how to take a three phase motor apart, cut it, wire it and install magnets to self run. He took me to his garage where he had a motor connected to his generator that was now modified. The regular motor turned the bigger unit til it got up to speed and once that was done he unplugged it from the wall.

He then plugged in his drill press and drilled a hole. He used an empty AC outlet to connect the two plugs. There was nothing secretly feeding it, he showed me that.


This means that the unit he built had to self run once up to speed. So whatever he did to it worked. I asked him and he said it was hard to explain but that the magnets were the key. He did not want to give away his secret.


It is to expensive to use $1000 motors to experiment on so I think use little ones and give a portion of your life to the exercise of finding the secret all over again. Almost everyone whoever lived that found the key to a new energy has concealed it. Only one tenth of one percent ever made any money off what they were hiding. They went to their grave hiding it. Never to be remembered. Greedy, selfish and empty headed.

If only they understood the power of giving they would have been rich in many ways that is impossible to explain. What comes around goes around as they say. It is so true, so opening our hands to share will always come back on you, look at John Bedini, Peter Lindemann, Aaron on just this site alone.

Overunity, OUPOWER, look at all of the free information we have and all of the men who give.


Soon the frustration for finding the answers will be diminished because of a few who are willing to give freely and the rest may go in peace. I will go with the stuff in the light and even at that will take tremendous effort.

We see this all of the time and here we are again saying all the same things.


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Very Interesting indeed, so the rotor and stator stay stationary with a moving soft iron center is that right?
Yep the iron makes and breaks the magnetic field.
We need to find a way to make a small model, alot of folks are looking at this so hopefully someone will come up with an easy way to replicate.
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Yep the iron makes and breaks the magnetic field.
We need to find a way to make a small model, alot of folks are looking at this so hopefully someone will come up with an easy way to replicate.
Yes Dave, I just took the back off my Harbor Freight 10kW generator to see if it would be possible to make the needed modifications. No dice. Way too cramped inside there. The rotor coils extend nearly to the edge of the core, so cutting the core and making a rotating sleeve isn't an option.

We need to find a source for a cheap 4-pole unit like shown in the video. Then it would be just a matter of having a template setup at eMachineShop we all could use to get the end plates made.

There has to be someone out there with the know-how and equipment to feasibly do these conversions.
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Instead of trying to replicate, think about what Lenz is really saying, comprehend where the problem is and attack the problem.

The device under discussion has a long history. The modifications that will be made to an off the shelf motor don't guarantee your success. Several have built generators based on this concept, this is the first I have seen in the form of a converted induction machine. None have demonstrated the results seen in the demonstration.

Lenz is not an issue in properly designed systems. The pioneers of NEVER mentioned the negative effects we glorify today! Give the systems you contemplate building some thought. The simple solution is right in your face has been for decades.


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update on build

New generator no effect lenzlaw, give more detail in pcture.

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Nice Model

Thanks again Chet, for posting this great Demo...

The principle is simple...the Four Iron rotating Elements are REDIRECTING the Magnetic Fields from the INNER STATORS (whether they are Magnets or Electromagnets) and PROJECTING it to the OUTER Generating Coils CORE. This effects a CHANGE of HIGH-LOW Magnetic Fields, as well as it changes polarity assuming the Inner Stators are disposed as N-S-N-S...

He demonstrates clearly the huge output of this Machine, as He rotates only a quarter to a half turn the shaft of Generator and we all could see the attached Drills, Saws, etc...developing HIGHER RPM's than what he is doing by hand...

The Iron Core must be made of a Ferromagnetic Composition as it does NOT retain ANY magnetic residual, even though when using N-S Stators it would be "cleaning itself" in every turn.

The Bearings are being used in opposite fashion than typical, where center collar (ID) is Static with inner shaft, and Outer Bearing Collar (OD) (normally static) is the one that spins.

The Inner Stators Electromagnets could be Closed Looped Coils with Diodes and Varistors, receiving the excitation via Exciting Coils set on the outer Core, side by side with Generating Coils and connected parallel to a Running Capacitor...the Same Principle as any typical Brushless Generator.

Very interesting design and performance.


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Old 11-11-2014, 02:55 PM
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very interesting

Another thread here

Flux Interrupter, BEMF Eliminator

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Yes Dave, I just took the back off my Harbor Freight 10kW generator to see if it would be possible to make the needed modifications. No dice. Way too cramped inside there. The rotor coils extend nearly to the edge of the core, so cutting the core and making a rotating sleeve isn't an option.

We need to find a source for a cheap 4-pole unit like shown in the video. Then it would be just a matter of having a template setup at eMachineShop we all could use to get the end plates made.

There has to be someone out there with the know-how and equipment to feasibly do these conversions.
Which is why he re-engineered the rotor part to utilize his 162 magnets into four poles and made it smaller to fit the rotating iron middle.(new rotor)..the video shows magnet wire wrapped around his magnets.
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Could someone create thread for this invention : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jiEYMBHDiI ? Is thee anyone who understand this language ?
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Opening up the alternator reveals some machining of the existing rotor down in order to get some permanent magnets in place. I think i'll have a go on the lathe in order to get clearance enough for the new iron rotor assembly.

Is there a thickness mentioned for the iron plates? i'm winging it here,keeping it proportional to the thickness of my permant magnets for a crude prototype until someone can help on a thickness.

edit: On his first build , he stated he used permanent magnets but since they were prohibitively expensive, he decided to use electromagnets on his second build, i'm planning on using the permanent magnet route and disregard the inner windings on the rotor unless i'm missing something?
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Previously I had no luck with Email [would not go thru]

Email did work this time [good sign]
Of course I will post all here.
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Chet,
I just went through both videos, frame by frame. Most details for building one of these is there. There are 2 things that I am still uncertain about.
  1. He stated the soft iron rotor thickness to be .5mm. From the videos, I think he meant .5cm thickness with a .5mm gap between rotor, magnets, and coils.
  2. The polarity of the 4 magnets was not mentioned.
If you could get these details from him in your correspondence, that would save the builders some time. I will be happy to layout the details I have found in the video examination. This is a simple build and wiring topography. It shouldn't take long to validate.
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Thank you for the efforts and input

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I believe that this has brought attention to some long running investigations into some well thought out possibilities .
possibilities that have been gained through experimentation .

pay attention here too
Tesla Patent 464666.

regarding this thread
yes I would investigate, however I would also pay attention and read some of the links on the various threads before I take the hammer to any of your generators or dig into your wallet for purchases.

some sharp cookies are at work here.
thanks for you efforts !

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The principle is simple...the Four Iron rotating Elements are REDIRECTING the Magnetic Fields from the INNER STATORS (whether they are Magnets or Electromagnets) and PROJECTING it to the OUTER Generating Coils CORE. This effects a CHANGE of HIGH-LOW Magnetic Fields, as well as it changes polarity assuming the Inner Stators are disposed as N-S-N-S...

He demonstrates clearly the huge output of this Machine, as He rotates only a quarter to a half turn the shaft of Generator and we all could see the attached Drills, Saws, etc...developing HIGHER RPM's than what he is doing by hand...

The Iron Core must be made of a Ferromagnetic Composition as it does NOT retain ANY magnetic residual, even though when using N-S Stators it would be "cleaning itself" in every turn.

The Bearings are being used in opposite fashion than typical, where center collar (ID) is Static with inner shaft, and Outer Bearing Collar (OD) (normally static) is the one that spins.

The Inner Stators Electromagnets could be Closed Looped Coils with Diodes and Varistors, receiving the excitation via Exciting Coils set on the outer Core, side by side with Generating Coils and connected parallel to a Running Capacitor...the Same Principle as any typical Brushless Generator.

Very interesting design and performance.


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Hey UFO

Thanks for kicking in the explanation. I been trying to get some of these motor designs but for me it is anything but simple. Til you pop in and spell it all out.

Nice going as usual

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Hello to All,

I put some CAD's together for you to understand this Design better...we worked on a similar design before, where the bearings for rotor were reversed rotation (Idea of Member Machinealive on the Figuera's Generator)

[IMG][/IMG]


[IMG][/IMG]

I used about the same color codes as Inventor/Developer utilized on his 3D Modeling, where Static Shaft is Yellow, Outer Generator Fields is red-oxide...and blue casing. He has made a beautiful rendering of this, except that because it has so much reflections, refractions and too many shadows (too many lighting with shadows)...it tends to confusion and is hard to see.

Related to the 0.5 mm, I believe He is referring to the rotor laminations.

Related to this design, I see a weak mechanical point which I circled in red below:

[IMG][/IMG]

A complicated solution would be to bore rotating shaft on inner section and insert a bearing in order that elongating yellow static shaft penetrates and lean on front shaft on inner bearing ring (static as well)...or an easier one to use a very heavy duty and bigger than factory front shaft bearing and front plate, as well as a longer sleeve to hold static shaft on the rear end plate.

To start searching for an old Generator Head, I would choose a four pole,(much less RPM's required compared to a Two Pole Design), and a brushless design would be the perfect choice, in order to reuse the rotor wires or same spec's, as gauge, number of turns or total length...then the inner stator exciters would be closed loop with diodes/varistors...so no need to make rear static shaft hollow...nor run any feeding wires...plus, the generating coils would have included the exciter fields attached to the right Running Capacitor. Then all that would need to be done is the machining and lathing of the inner rotary and stationary parts.


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EDIT 1: I forgot to mention that on video of the assembly taken apart...He shows the iron cores surrounded by an outer steel tubing, same diameter (as he measures it with caliper) as the inner generating fields core...I believe this is some kind of "Alignment Tool" He made, before the Aluminum plates are tighten with iron cores through the long bolts, then He pulls it/slide it out, this is in order to keep a perfect centered within inner circumference surfaces.
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Thanks for kicking in the explanation. I been trying to get some of these motor designs but for me it is anything but simple. Til you pop in and spell it all out.

Nice going as usual

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Hey Mike, my pleasure man, I am glad it helped you to understand this better!

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Thanks again UFO for the 3D "I needed that"

I am looking at it and just as a simple observation it has a broken center shaft Well it don't go all of the way through. Toed ya it was a simple view

So it seems to me then that he redid the shaft to keep some sort of isolation with magnetic fields inside that rotating mass.

Splitting up the flux I'll have to think about this one. Humm...

I'll bet if that shaft gets out of alignment she'll jump like a kangaroo.

If it helps someone could always come up with a composite connector so as not to pass any energy across that point.

I can not think right now how having that missing section on the shaft might do anything.

Well I thought again and the drum rotates and has the outer fields and the inner magnets to flux between hummm....

So it is a system that passes flux back and forth between inner and outer magnetic fields very interesting.


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Hello to All,

I put some CAD's together for you to understand this Design better...we worked on a similar design before, where the bearings for rotor were reversed rotation (Idea of Member Machinealive on the Figuera's Generator)

[IMG][/IMG]


[IMG][/IMG]

I used about the same color codes as Inventor/Developer utilized on his 3D Modeling, where Static Shaft is Yellow, Outer Generator Fields is red-oxide...and blue casing. He has made a beautiful rendering of this, except that because it has so much reflections, refractions and too many shadows (too many lighting with shadows)...it tends to confusion and is hard to see.

Related to the 0.5 mm, I believe He is referring to the rotor laminations.

Related to this design, I see a weak mechanical point which I circled in red below:

[IMG][/IMG]

A complicated solution would be to bore rotating shaft on inner section and insert a bearing in order that elongating yellow static shaft penetrates and lean on front shaft on inner bearing ring (static as well)...or an easier one to use a very heavy duty and bigger than factory front shaft bearing and front plate, as well as a longer sleeve to hold static shaft on the rear end plate.

To start searching for an old Generator Head, I would choose a four pole,(much less RPM's required compared to a Two Pole Design), and a brushless design would be the perfect choice, in order to reuse the rotor wires or same spec's, as gauge, number of turns or total length...then the inner stator exciters would be closed loop with diodes/varistors...so no need to make rear static shaft hollow...nor run any feeding wires...plus, the generating coils would have included the exciter fields attached to the right Running Capacitor. Then all that would need to be done is the machining and lathing of the inner rotary and stationary parts.


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EDIT 1: I forgot to mention that on video of the assembly taken apart...He shows the iron cores surrounded by an outer steel tubing, same diameter (as he measures it with caliper) as the inner generating fields core...I believe this is some kind of "Alignment Tool" He made, before the Aluminum plates are tighten with iron cores through the long bolts, then He pulls it/slide it out, this is in order to keep a perfect centered within inner circumference surfaces.
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I believe that this has brought attention to some long running investigations into some well thought out possibilities .
possibilities that have been gained through experimentation .

pay attention here too
Tesla Patent 464666.

regarding this thread
yes I would investigate, however I would also pay attention and read some of the links on the various threads before I take the hammer to any of your generators or dig into your wallet for purchases.

some sharp cookies are at work here.
thanks for you efforts !

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Lol,
Thanks Chet for your concerns regarding my wallet and hammer. I know, and have had quite a few spirited conversations with most of those players on the link you referenced. Smart people indeed.

With regards to this specific thread, I see this device different than UFO (no disrespect meant). If the results prove to be valid, I believe this to be s simple device which shows a unique magnetic pathway. One with all the same magnetic poles outward. Not a flux gate machine. One that would make Ken Wheeler proud. Now it's time to get my hammer out and build a model that will prove the concept in one night, just for my own satisfaction.

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Guys there is a red flag
In the second vid he shorts the gen coil but the voltage still stays around 200 volts.
This shouldnt happen, when shorted amperage should go through the roof and voltage should drop.
Dont get your hopes up too high
A small model needs to be built before you hock the farm to build this.
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Guys there is a red flag
In the second vid he shorts the gen coil but the voltage still stays around 200 volts.
This shouldnt happen, when shorted amperage should go through the roof and voltage should drop.
Quite correct and at over 2000 watts, the wires should immediately start smoking, especially near the alligator clips.
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How do we know if the inverter and gencoil are not working together to keep a steady 200volts? Or how about a large cap in the line might hold it up for a few seconds?

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How do we know if the inverter and gencoil are not working together to keep a steady 200volts? Or how about a large cap in the line might hold it up for a few seconds?

Mike

What I saw was a direct short on the output of the generator. The inverter is actually the welding unit.

The only thing that would explain this is cold electricity as documented in the Advanced SG package. If that's the case, we can toss a lot of standard electrical measurement techniques right out the window.

More reading to do it appears. This mystery is far from over.
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Thinking about it if a short what power is there makes the generator coils in to electromagnetic. The magnets in the generator would then stop. Probably not cold electricity. This is getting very interesting thank you.
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Could this be the mystery of this generator?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlPWy6z9Gig


As for the iron that 'blocks' and or redirects the magnetic flux, does it have to be soft iron to allow the switching? I've heard that coat hangers are made out of soft iron... for those of us on a low budget, perhaps take some and shape them flat with a hammer and then epoxy them together to build up the proper shape? Would be similar to laminations.

Unless there's a company that would make custom soft iron shapes for relatively cheap (won't hold my breath though...)

This might be an interesting generator to modify - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCc7Cz_aFac
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A quote by 'syairchairun', the guy behind this, and who is evidently in agreement with Ufopolitics diagrams of how this thing is put together.

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Wow very true UFO politics , Sory i can not much time to go to the forums , busy with the next generator , I 've had success with mygenerator next , I 'm buying a camera for making video more clearly, before I released the next video , you can follow ufo politics , it is very true what drew , I have to get how the magnetic flux runs without any effect of lenz law , it turns out lenz law provides positive efec , maybe tomorrow I will be releasing a video how the magnetic flux occurs in stator.
Another result I get 220v 55A in my next generator with a frequency of 120Hz at 1500rpm rotation with 750W input + 320W for Center Coil , it is not as expected , then I will play it with the speed of 750rpm to 50Hz , then make more windings in Stator , but may only produce a 30A 220V .
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Could this be the mystery of this generator?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlPWy6z9Gig


As for the iron that 'blocks' and or redirects the magnetic flux, does it have to be soft iron to allow the switching? I've heard that coat hangers are made out of soft iron... for those of us on a low budget, perhaps take some and shape them flat with a hammer and then epoxy them together to build up the proper shape? Would be similar to laminations.

Unless there's a company that would make custom soft iron shapes for relatively cheap (won't hold my breath though...)

This might be an interesting generator to modify - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCc7Cz_aFac
Use Soft Steel Buckshot 98% soft iron and epoxy. Form it into anyshape.

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