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Old 03-18-2009, 02:45 AM
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@ Suhcayo

nice work, wats the name of that simulation software??
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Old 03-18-2009, 04:06 AM
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@ Sucahyo - can you post a link to that software? Looks awesome and may help ppl work out dimensions better, and how to get oscillations in resonance.

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Old 03-18-2009, 06:00 AM
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The name is working model, it has gravity, wind and electrostatic, no magnetic though.
Working Model 2D - Home

We can do much even with the demo version, I capture using irfanview . We need to purchase if we want to save our work though.

other software I found during searching:
Infolytica » Overview of MagNet: Design & Analysis Software for Low Frequency Electromagnetic Devices
http://www.interactivephysics.com/products/ip.html
Visualize magnetic fields: free electromagnetic finite element modelling, analysis, simulation software. Animations.
http://www.quickfield.com/
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Old 03-18-2009, 07:45 AM
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Torrent - Working Model 2D + Keygen + Crack - [HUSSEY]:: BitTorrentMonster
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:31 AM
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To complement working model for creating the object in precision, some say qcad is the best:
SourceForge.net: QCad binary for Windows: Files

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Old 04-08-2009, 08:42 AM
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Not a "standard" model, but it's an Oscillator, the Video. of the Working Model 2D design.

I couldn't figure out how to add energy to the pendulum swing so I
used springs. An up down movement of the entire pendulum at the CORRECT
time would add energy to the pendulum swing.
It's another option for energy input.
Rectangle 32 is the Hammer rectangle, not the pendulum.
There is friction added to the pendulum pivot point, but not the pivot point on the Arm of the Hammer.
The recorder does not seem to record live graphs, the graphs are from the
previous running of the device.

The design was trying to increase swing distance on the Hammer.
Moving the pivot point on the arm closer to the hammer,
greatly increase the up/down swing.
In this design the balance between hammer, pivot point and pendulum does not seem to be as touchy as a standard 2 Stage Oscillator.
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Old 04-09-2009, 10:34 AM
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I see no problems using a piston assembly from a 12v car tire compressor. We would need a few swings to build up pressure in the pressure tank and then just use that stored pressure to operate a pneumatic linear actuator at the correct timing to push the pendulum. If you did not understand the idea, I can make a drawing
When I saw the mention of compressing air, I thought "this is what I keep coming back to..."
But, has anyone mentioned putting a reaction engine on the pendulum to give it the little push it needs? A sensor that senses when the pendulum is at it's "peak" looses a jet of air or maybe better, water. From what I've read from the fellow (on Milkovik's site) that is trying to build a mechanical link from the output end back to the pendulum, so far has said TIMING is the most difficult trick. Regardless of where the pendulum is at, a sensor (mercury switch or a weighted spring with a microswitch in a tube?) would know when it's at it's upper limit, open an electric valve, just a tiny burst like a push of a pinky. It might even be able to start the whole thing. Also would react to anything (a really excessive load) slowing the pendulum. the pendulum itself would be the commutator.
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Old 04-19-2009, 11:40 AM
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I've just opened up a hard-disc-drive to use the rotor in one of my motor-setups when it struck me that maybe the pickup-arm, with coil and magnets and all, could be used in a setup of this kind in some way?
It's just a thought I wanted to share, although I'm not going to pursue it myself as I'm focusing on motors and coils right now.
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Timing

@ don3332 - re delay circuit to push pendulum after it's stopped going up..

I solved that problem, two 555 timers and two relays. Could be used to turn anything on, not just a coil.

It's all here;

Need help with circuit to delay reed switch triggering transistor.

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Ash, and EVERYBODY,

Working Model 2D is a $2,500 program. Downloading it for free from the TORRENT sites is STEALING!!! There is NO WAY to further the benefits of CIVILIZATION when these supposed benefits derive from the theft of Intellectual Property, or the theft of any other type of Property.

I also encourage EVERYBODY to BOYCOTT all torrent sites, for the same reason. If FREE ENERGY is to help make a better future, it CANNOT be developed from a foundation of THEFT. This is not the future I am interested in promoting. If we cannot build a better future based on HONESTY and INTEGRITY, then when we get there, it won't actually be BETTER then the mess we have now!

Peter

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Old 04-20-2009, 05:41 PM
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@ don3332 - re delay circuit to push pendulum after it's stopped going up..

I solved that problem, two 555 timers and two relays. Could be used to turn anything on, not just a coil.

It's all here;

Need help with circuit to delay reed switch triggering transistor.

Love and light
Inquorate:
Thanks so much for this info! Lots of links to look up there. I even just received my order for a bunch of 555 timers, just to have on hand.
Thanks also for taking the time to post a schematic based on a video. For me, with dial-up, one picture can be worth a thousand minutes of loading...
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Old 04-20-2009, 06:28 PM
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Ash, and EVERYBODY,

Working Model 2D is a $2,500 program. Downloading it for free from the TORRENT sites is STEALING!!! There is NO WAY to further the benefits of CIVILIZATION when these supposed benefits derive from the theft of Intellectual Property, or the theft of any other type of Property.

I also encourage EVERYBODY to BOYCOTT all torrent sites, for the same reason. If FREE ENERGY is to help make a better future, it CANNOT be developed from a foundation of THEFT. This is not the future I am interested in promoting. If we cannot build a better future based on HONESTY and INTEGRITY, then when we get there, it won't actually be BETTER then the mess we have now!

Peter
Dr. Lindeman,
I agree very much with you on this assessment. (based on MY experiences )
"A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a just weight is his delight." (What goes around, comes around.)

I first read your work in Borderland Sciences Research way back in '89 and now thanks to your posting(s) on the Gravity wheel and references to Veljko Milkovic, I find myself dragging out and dusting off my boxes of magnets, springs, plexiglass, etc.
I've even purchased Rex Research's CD's of their site which I've avoided since I could download for free. WHAT A BARGAIN (only $12) that was! He's even got a really nice set of videos of Milkovic's work on there.
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Ash, and EVERYBODY,

Working Model 2D is a $2,500 program. Downloading it for free from the TORRENT sites is STEALING!!! There is NO WAY to further the benefits of CIVILIZATION when these supposed benefits derive from the theft of Intellectual Property, or the theft of any other type of Property.

I also encourage EVERYBODY to BOYCOTT all torrent sites, for the same reason. If FREE ENERGY is to help make a better future, it CANNOT be developed from a foundation of THEFT. This is not the future I am interested in promoting. If we cannot build a better future based on HONESTY and INTEGRITY, then when we get there, it won't actually be BETTER then the mess we have now!

Peter
I'm in total agreement with Dr. Lindemann on this one, copyright infridegment is a serious offence and should never be tolerated, any game or software program that requires a keygen or crack to install it is illegal and the laws are in the authors favor when it comes to theft.

Torrents does have its place, but not for any illegal usage.

Pirate Bay defendants get hammered! The Official Verdict - Guilty

U.S. Copyright Office - Copyright Law of the United States

Glen

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Old 04-21-2009, 01:51 AM
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I guess its a shame that researches like us don't have 2,500 to throw around, if ever there could be some sort of amnesty for the usage of this, i think the Fee Energy engineers using it to HELP humanity then deleting it would be the only one, But like Peter says we should avoid it.

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Ash, and EVERYBODY,

Working Model 2D is a $2,500 program. Downloading it for free from the TORRENT sites is STEALING!!!
Peter
I wonder if our colleagues in the Linux community have done something
along these lines:
SourceForge.net: Find and Build Open Source Software
We might have to throw our Windows into the "Toilet of Despair"
but that might well be a good idea anyway. (or use dual booting)
Paul-R
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Ask your local university

It might be worth trying the mech eng department (or Architecture) of your local university to see if there is any arrangement whereby we might use their software, if they have it. Diplomacy needed since many have stopped thinking, and are bound to regard much or even all of what we do to be nuts.
Paul-R
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Old 06-08-2009, 10:23 PM
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Hi all,

I built a 2 stage pendulum a couple years ago when I first found Milkovic info. It was rather crude in construction, made with a sledge hammer another sledge head for 2nd stage. I think the parts are still in the garage if anyone might be interested in some pics. It did not work the greatest, I think most likely because it was just clamped down on a metal desk that jumped around alot when in use. You could drive a 8d nail with one finger input but it took quite a few pushes. I believe it could have drove another nail above the sledge with no more input. The kids were not to impressed and Cathy didn't like the noise so I took it apart.

I have a pendulum idea I would like to run by you all. I hope it's not to far off topic, if it is I will delete.



Maybe some of the electronic guys here can do windings for coils and electro magnets, for I have no knowledge of such.

Keep up the good work,
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I have a pendulum idea I would like to run by you all. I hope it's not to far off topic, if it is I will delete.
Gene
Yout idea is intriguing, and should have its own thread.
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Interesting

Not truly a veljko oscillator because it's really only a lever, and does not harness centrifugal force to add to the weight of a pendulum..

However, whilst it should have it's own thread, I would not delete it, as a hybrid vertical veljko oscillator with a pendulum that takes advantage of the 'weightless' aspect of the lower pendulum's swing to accelerate the 'fall' of the top weight would IMHO be a worthy project.

There could potentially be a gain there.

Thankyou for sharing your idea here, it has given me food for thought, and possibly - god forbid - another project

However, it's already half built in my living room, thanks to my gravity mill and electromagnetic powered veljko oscillator forays...

I knew that delayed push pendulum circuit would come in handy someday.

So, again, Thankyou.
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Hang on,

Pendulum on the top of a vertical veljko oscillator; you'd have to get the period of the pendulum's swing and the period of the lever's swing in resonance by adjusting the weight and the weight's placement along the pendulum and lever...

Dag nammit, can't sleep now.



But again; the problem of veljko oscillators; how to harness the excess inertial energy produced?
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Hi Inquorate,

Thanks for looking at my pendulum idea. I am glad that you you made the connection with the Veljko oscillator for it was when thinking about a way to drive the short high speed pendulum of the Milkovic device that this idea came to me. I'm sorry for not making that clear in my post.

I'm not sure how to start a new thread but I will attempt if you think this idea has enough potential, perhaps if more people see this someone could help me with coils & electro magnets. Or if someone was willing to work on the electrical end of this I could build the mechanical part of it and ship it to them to be fitted with the electronics. There is a fishing rod manufacturer just up the road from me and I can easily acquire rod blanks of different strengths.

Thanks,
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>how to harness the excess inertial energy produced?

PRODUCE REAL WORK, WATER PUMP AND MANY OTHERS
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Babarzilia's veljko oscillator

YouTube - ...it works!!

Looks good so far.
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