Hi,

we live in a spherical condenser(earth-ionosphere) with a combined E and B-field that gives a lot of effects to our lives. Ie the fields give us weight, gravitation effects etc.

IF you realize this and that gravity just is an effect of the fields then a whole lot of options come to mind. Resonance is the first. If you have resonance you can input just a little energy at the peak of every oscillation and keep most of the "old" energy from the last oscillation and still output alot of energy. There will be side-effects(transmutation?) from resonance I believe, there is no "free energy" just an exchange of energies between different aether units.

Anyone has built the Milkovic oscillator in here? Progress?

GMC, Group,

Please make the straight wire spring unit, is really is as simple as he has shown.

The version using the bicycle hub ratchet, made me in-vision a bicycle where all you did to "go" was keep the *thingy swinging* and shift gears..

I/We just figured out my gout problem of the last year and a half and I'm near ready to do things again.

Some of the angle iron I bought for the beam has been used for other purpose (I live on a very small farm...)...

I'm still looking for a long rack gear to use with a large Servo Motor wired as a Generator, and the fake "OU devise toy" circuit that keeps the iron piece swinging/moving creating the toys illusion. I want to use to keep the 1st oscillator in motion.

The nrg from the servo can easly power the swinger and there is no spook, "you cant connect the out to the in, or it kills the effect" excuse !

Dave

Well, bear in mind that on Mars, for example, is absolutely no magnetic field and yet, gravitation works as it is supposed to work - objects is falling down. I'm not saying that gravitation isn't connected to electromagnetics, but I'm saying that we don't know how! But I'm sure that is not because of ionosphere's electric field.

Can anyone think of an electrical analog to the mechanical oscillator? A circuit?

An LC circuit perhaps? Simply a coil with high self inductance and a capacitor.

It will give you the electrical equivellant of a pendulum where voltage is equivellant to gravity, inductance is equivellant to mass (the weight of the "pendulum"), charge (coulombs) is equivellant to the length of the pendulum's swing, and resistance (ohms) is equivellant to wind resistance.

SHOWS effect on a pendulum !!!

Visualization of the Coriolis and centrifugal forces

Makes you go Hmmmmm .. there's some other forces going on here
that I wasn't thinking about existing.

Rotate something attached to something else that is rotating and hmmm.

just
Randy

@Technoman, try and read the book of Konstantin Meyl, maybe you will change your mind. The solar wind clearly indicates a B-field at Mars but mainstream science can not explain how it works. Maybe Mars has reached a new stage in its development cycle, ie all water is consumed and the crust and ionosphere may have the same charge or the crust may be a bad neutrinolyser or whatever which gives completely new results.

I strongly believe there is always duality between the E/B-field, one can not exist without the other, ie in a charged condenser people believe no B-field is present, that is wrong. The B-field of Mars may be horisontal, hence a new measuring technique is needed. Not important anyway for now.

At the moment I don't have enough time to read K. Meyl books, yet I believe I will do that one day, but first thing will be scalar waves.

About the duality - in some sort you are right. These two fields are connected. Yet there isn't absolute symmetry (proven in quantum physics, year 1957 if I am correct, Bearden talks about that in his book) in Electromagnetics, i.e., Magnetic field couldn't exist without Electric field, and yet - Electric field without Magnetic field would do just fine. As far as I am taught in university, magnetic effects comes solely from relativistic effects of moving charges.

So in case of static, charged capacitor (imagine that it is ideal case and there is no leakage currents) is only Electric field. BUT if we start to move or cap is being moved, then we can observe Magnetic field, caused by changing Electric field, relative to us.

In case of Mars - haven't been there, but it could be, that the magnetic field is caused by Mars and it's ionosphere's rotation, that would be - moving capacitor.

But still - can't see, how we can relate gravity effects with Electromagnetism.

Pictures speak louder than words..

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at all

Here is a very easy to replicate Milkovic 2stage oscillator

the pendulum is activated with a RC plane servo (Hitec HS 725 BB)
the servo is activated with a servo tester . You can activate manually or automatically This works with a 4,5 volts battery but you can go up to 6 volts to get higher speed swinging

the servo is hot glued on the lever the arm of the pendulum must be articulated to get a good swing

the fulcrum is a MOT hv coil weighing about 450 gr

the 2 clamps on the lever are for the equilibrium

this is a very interesting set up to get the feeling of the brillant idea of Veljko Milkovic

an now looking for what we can do with this

and how to measure the force in and out any ideas??

et vive the swing

Laurent

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How to measure force in and out? Well, is gravity involved? Yes. Is gravity free? yes. Is there more force involved than the force required to keep the pendulum swinging? Yes. Do we pay for it? No. Is ''over unity re cost'' possible. Yeah, seems so.

Thanks for posting woopy. Here is a draft schematic for the pendulum trigger / push coil; it activates only when the pendulum is falling - because of the diodes on the trigger coil to the trigger transistor.

Did I mention the Commutator on the flywheel that causes a capacitor to fill up from the bedini wheel, then disconnect from bedini charge wheel and connect to the pendulum drive coil just before the drive coil fires?

No? That's sneaky of me.

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// closing the loop will prove output is more than input

Cheers!

YouTube - Double Solenoid Pendulum

Check this out, very nice setup!!!! just look at the mass on this baby!

Instead of timer, would utilizing mechanical switch viable for driving the pendulum? maybe using four strand of wire? two for each direction?

In the example, the left part are heavier and has shorter range. Is it possible to have the left part lighter so it can be much longer than the pendulum part at right angle, it should produce more electricity isn't ?

It's a tradeoff between speed and torque, more of one = less of the other.

This will make you
Solar Powered Electromagnetic Pendulum

This is interesting, stick with it; first part is quite boring.

YouTube - Tests invention Milkovic 2

Ok, so it's only held together by electrical tape at the moment, but in my head it may just work, with enough fiddling. Everything will be adjustable when I move beyond the electrical tape stage.

Anyway, any comments, critiques or whatever are welcomed. Oh and I haven't found springs yet, but there will be springs on bolts (adjustable) with nuts secured to a crossbar either side of the lever's fulcrum. Thus I will be able to limit the lever's range of movement.

And other stuff.

YouTube - veljko oscillator idea almost complete.

Mart

In your video you posted on the 20th you were looking at creating a different switch setup. I just thought this video might be of interest to you and others as well. Very economical and functional as a magnetic or mechanical switch. Dirt cheap and easy to replace makes this real sweet.

YouTube - 002 - selfmade magnetic or mechanic switch

I went through the messages and have viewed and read all I can on Veljko Milkovic's 2-stage oscillator. It seems everyone is trying to electrify it. Is anyone else attempting anything to make it a self-runner by mechanical means only? I like to hear from you if you are.

I look at it that if you have 12 times more energy out than required to keep it oscillating, you should be able to utilize some of that to keep it running. There is an option to use the output side for this or to steal some directly from the pendulum side. In either, you must alternate the center of gravity in the to and fro motion enough to maintain the resonance of the oscillator.

Sure like to hear some thoughts on how to keep it strictly a mechanical oscillator as this is what is needed terribly by the poor around the world.

I'm working on one now that uses mechanically moved neo magnets with a coil inbetween to momentarily increase the strength of the field and pushes the pendulum. Take another look at my video. :-)

While my semi mechanical veljko oscillator didn't work; I couldn't even get it in synch. So it may work, I've just got more to learn. - I have just been driving a pendulum since then.

I have experimented with bedini type systems to push the pendulum, and have been using reed switches to dump the energy recovered in capacitors back into the drive battery. Due to the time it takes for pendulum to reach each apex, it appears to work. Unfortunately, my last two transistors have blown up.. And I have only had final setup running for 2 hours on a small 12v battery.. Nothing OU but very efficient.

Probably best to use reed switch to trigger master 2n3055 or Tip35c and then two or more slave transistors.

Pushing the side of the pendulum along it''s swing arc at the top of it's swing takes less energy than pushing it 'up' at the bottom of each swing.

Anyway, that's all I've got to share for now

New one from Ron
YouTube - Shifting Pivot Pendulum

I have made some of these, however they did not hold up... they ran for a while then carbon would build on on the contacts making them useless. I have sence bought 1 amp reed switches off Ebay and fought with them for about a week, i found the answer to the ones on ebay was to use a neo to adjust the reed switch this works awesome.

I have just gotten some 1 amp reed switches too :-) and found some 1 amp self resetting fuses, which should stop the occasional sticking of reed switches I've been experiencing.

Good to know there's a couple of people working on this :-)

Ps theremart, I picked up some small neo's too, what do you mean by adjusting the reed switch with them? I was intending to use them to trigger the reed switch..

1 amp self resetting fuses!

I would be interested in the source.

What you do is take the neo or even a ceramic magnet and go on the back side of the reed switch ( reed switch near wheel then behind the reed switch ) . what you will notice is if you get the magnet in just the right place you will create a smaller gap so that when the magnets on the wheel trigger the reed switch it takes much less effort for the reed to fire, thus a faster or lower draw on the reed switch It seems to do wonders for my new Newman / Bedini hybrid motor ( plans from the Daftman).

Apparently it's a circuit breaker, and 1.5 amp. Here's where I got them.

1.5A PCB Mount Thermal Circuit Breaker (SPST) - Jaycar Electronics

Thanks for the magnet / reed switch tip :-)

Just a progress update. Making these is pretty easy. The missus is in the background

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Just a quick little peek

YouTube - gravity mill progress

Read the comment I made on youtube,

Love and light