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Will compass work in Southern Hemisphere?

My wife and I will be going to Patagonia next week for ten days. From there we go to Antarctica for three weeks. Will be doing some hiking but just day stuff. Here is a question for all of you as I can't seem to find a straight answer on the Internet - does a compass work in the southern hemisphere? Will the magnetic needle still point north? This is not a huge issue for me but just wondering. Thanks for your help!


03.25.2013. after he had come back he wrote this:

I just got back from my five week Patagonia/Antarctica trip last week. Just before leaving for the Antarctica segment of the trip, I did an experiment in the city of Ushuaia which is located on the southern tip of South America. It's latitude 54°48′south. I visited a local park that had a large decorative compass made out of stone. I used it to get my north, south, east, west bearings. Side by side I set up a North American compass, a global compass, and an iPhone compass. All three pointed in the exact same direction - north (see photo below). I mentioned my experiment to a guy I met from Australia. He said, "Of course they pointed north. A compass will point north unless you sitting on the South Pole..." As I mentioned in my previous post, this was not a huge issue for me but it was fun finding out the answer.

Here is the picture of his compasses:



How do you comment that?

I would just like to add this:

Let C, fig. 87, represent a dipping needle on the "equator"

of a globe. A mere inspection of the diagram is sufficient to make it demonstrated that the needle C cannot be horizontal, and at the same time pointing towards the north pole N. If a ship sailed east or west on the equator where the compass is horizontal, it is evident that its north or south end would describe a circle in the heavens equal in magnitude to the circumference of the earth at the equator--as shown by D, E, F.



fig. 87

My point is that there is no south pole whatsoever!
21 pages later ... do you discuss the swastika at all in this thread?
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you should
the swastika wants to teach you about the system that ye are struggling with

really it does
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aljihoa you are suggesting that clkjames theory about a flat earth is based on a particular religious POV?
2D in 3D

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earths not flat. your takign the bible literally.. the wrong. your getting all this off that guy who makes fun of nasa going to the moon when they didnt and he uses this, trick as a way to prove, they lie.
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I find this thread fascinating and I am only two pages in. I have checked most of the links provided and find my head bursting to respond in part. Ignorant that my comments may already have been covered in the remaining ten pages, I apologise in advance.

Figure 17 depicts a board B B aligned with the horizon and states -

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If the eye be now directed in an angular direction to the left and to the right, there will be no difficulty in observing a length of ten to twenty miles, according to the altitude of the position; and this whole distance of twenty miles of sea horizon will be seen as a perfectly straight line.
Figure 18 depicts what should be seen if the earth were a globe with a declination from horizontal of 66 feet at each end with 20 miles between.

Figure 21 depicts the Isle of Wight as it is seen and Figure 22 depicts what should be seen if the earth were a globe.

--S--

These two experiments are incorrect in the extreme and grossly misleading. Neither proving a flat earth nor a globular earth.

I shall endeavour to explain using the 'accepted' norm of curvature being 8 inches per mile.

I stand with an uninterrupted view of the horizon around 360°, my eye level being 6 feet the horizon being 3 miles distant.

The observable disc upon which I stand is Pi x R² (assume Pi = 3) = 27 sq miles with a circumference of 18 miles.

For all practical purposes the disc, although gently curving in all directions of 360°, is flat.

Everything that I observe within that 27 sq mile disc will be seen to be sitting flat. Curving neither one way or another.

The curve of the disc is around me, not declining to the sides in front of me as depicted in Figure 22.

The two experiments take one accepted norm of objects declining over the curve of the earth then applies the norm to the observable disc curving also. This is wrong.

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Large underground aquifers exist today that may represent remnants of the waters that burst forth during the global flood.
What would cause the water above ground to become subterranean ?

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Those buildings that you can plainly see are supposed to be under hundreds of feet of water.
This image is similar to other diagrams and descriptions in the text described in the first two pages of this thread, so I shall use this image only to address my observation.

The image does not prove a flat earth by itself, it just disputes the commonly held belief that the earth curves at 8 inches per mile. Clearly to some degree the buildings lie beyond an horizon. Does this mean the earth curves at say 2 inches per mile or 1 inch perhaps ?

What would cause the observable to contradict the accepted ?

--S--

There is a theory which I find equally interesting and relates directly to a possible explanation for the two quotes above.

The Expanding Earth Theory https://www.google.co.uk/search?clie...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 which is pretty self explanatory.

Water that could engulf the earth might become subterranean if the globe were to expand AND a commonly held belief that the globe declines by 8 inches per mile may be incorrect if the globe were expanding.

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i wanna think that the whole, universe, big bang is expanding theory, crap, is like thinking th eearth is flat. yo8u havent seen the edge of it so you don't know. so it's not, it just goes on and on like common sense would say.
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Curious to know why the horizon follows your eye level as you ascend I decided to calculate it.

To my surprise, at 30,000 feet the 'horizon' is 3° (three) below your eye level.

I doubt anyone could discern that from 'being level'.
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I thought this was interesting.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ide_Mosaic.jpg

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are above elliptical craters the proof of Flat Moon?



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There are those who believe it is not humanity’s destiny
to wither away within the clutches of Earth’s cycles of life and extinction. Rather we are to venture forth,
beyond our terrestrial origins and establish thriving civilizations throughout the cosmos.
Some have already secretly realized this vision, while others are relegated to technology dependent upon dwindling resources.
A conflict now rages whether to preserve these advancements for the ranks of the elite,
or to share this destiny with the whole of humanity and usher in a new era of peaceful conscious advancement.
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A view of the Grand Canyon taken from an altitude of
approximately 30 kilometers on a World View balloon test flight in
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You honestly think that defines earth? 6 miles? Its laughable.
The earth is 25,000 miles round.

The dirt of earth is maluable. Some parts rigid...some parts FLAT.
It could VERY easily be a 6 mile stretch of flat land formation that water is laying on.

Why has NO ONE EVER repeated this experiment on the ocean?
Drive two sail boats miles apart, take telescope with camera, EASY to prove a flat earth.
Both boats should be fully visible.

Funny...NO ONE CAN PROVE IT...Because the earth isn't flat.
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It could VERY easily be a 6 mile stretch of flat land formation that water is laying on.
No. On a spherical planet, regardless of the shape of the underlying dirt bed, the surface of the water is expected to have a concave shape.

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Our perspective is that of having two eyes and not functionaly correct.
The argument is relative. This video is a crude simulation might help to develop such a perspective.
This is not what we were taught it is non-euclidean. something like looking through a fish bowl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...AqDuWG2M#t=323
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I don't know about the pictures, but certainly they don't prove a round Earth. Any space observation made from the surface of the planet is not a valid proof of what really happens in space, it is only evidence of what appears to happen viewed from our perspective.

The only way to prove that would be to leave the planet Earth and actually see it from a great distance. However, in my opinion this hasn't be done yet and the photos from space are all fake. One might want to think they are genuine, but definitely it is not guaranteed. In fact, even if we indeed took photos from space that alone shouldn't be considered definite proof it is round even if it appears that way. As I mentioned a long time ago, the whole topic is very abstract as we cannot verify any of the claims.

However, Cikljamas may be right even though his arguments are not always very strong. The idea that the Earth is flat has a long history. Furthermore, it could also be true that some time in the Middle Ages it was deemed necessary to fool the world that the Earth is round for various, mostly religious reasons. This explains all the fakery concerning the matter in question.
Many years ago today I was a photography expert. My main camera was a Canon FTQL 35mm SLR. I had a small collection of lenses including three fisheye wide angle lenses. The fisheyes easily produced images of non-spherical objects that looked like spheres or balls. I took a number of photos of ordinary flat plots of land that produced images looking as if the horizon was rounded or spherical whereas to my naked eye the horizon was normal flat and level.

In this thread I have seen several photos that I recognized as being, because of a number of tell-tale visual effects, shot with a fisheye lens which show a curved horizon and are touted to be proof of a convex planet. Ain't really good proof! I can use a fisheye lens and make your house look like a sphere...


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@ Hrothgar, have you ever heard Eric Dollard saying: "No one knows how the Sun works"? So who am i to know something that no (other) human being knows? Watch: The Sun is not a Nuclear furnace raging at millions of degrees. It is Electric and Cold!
The link seems to require a password.

What is the password?

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you know what the term POLARIZED means?


ultimately it means "CREATES A SPHERE"


every atom


Pile those atoms up.....you DONT END UP with a FLAT EARTH




You're like a dope addict,
except the needle is IGNORANCE

the drug is Creationism / God

and the HIGH is Religious stupidity.

So, you say that every natural crystal is in the form of a round ball.

I didn't know that. Thanks for the news.


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" What will be the end of these things ! I am no conjurer, but it is easy to determine what will be from what has already taken place. It has been the fate of all kingdoms, nations, and people from the beginning of time, upon their rejecting or perverting the revelation of God, to fall into anarchy, confusion, and infidelity. The Bible is, as it deserves to be, the great charter of our liberty. The loss of the Scriptures, or severing from or perverting the doctrines or history contained in them, has invariably been attended with discomfiture and ruin, and always will And if their successors continue their resistance, as they have done hitherto, it cannot fail to deluge the kingdom with Atheism, destroying all social virtue, and turning it into a field of blood."
D. W. Scott 1901.

Thanks to Newton’s invented math and the excesses of his gravitational hypotheses, Copernicanism dug in its heels in the universities in the 1700’s, and by the last quarter of that century had produced a large crop of hard core heliocentrists, not a few of whom were advocating ape-man theories (amongst them, Darwin’s grandfather, Erasmus Darwin, Voltaire’s disciples in France, etc.). This was the age of "The Enlightenment" which produced Thomas Paine, the celebrated pamphleteer of the American Revolution, whom George Washington referred to as "that filthy little atheist". Thomas Jefferson's and Ben Franklin’s Deism was commonplace in Europe as well as amongst the rebellious American colonies. During the French Revolution of the 1790’s the Bible was actually outlawed.

Keep in mind that a rotating, orbiting earth is not counted as a mere hypothesis or even a theory anywhere in the world today. Oh no. Rather, this concept is an unquestioned "truth"; an established "fact" in all books and other media everywhere, church media included. Copernicanism, in short, is a concept that is protected in a bunker under a 50 foot thick ceiling of solid "scientific" concrete. It is meant to be impregnable. It is a concept that has become ensconced in men’s minds as the indestructible cornerstone of enlightened modern man’s knowledge. Virtually all people everywhere have been taught to believe--and do believe--that this concept is based on objective science and dispassionate secular reasoning, now long since freed from religious superstitions based on the Bible. Indeed, it was this Copernican heliocentricity concept that gradually broke the back of Bible credibility as the source of Absolute Truth in Christendom. Once the Copernican Revolution had conquered the physical sciences of Astronomy and Physics and put down deep roots in Universities and lower schools everywhere, it was only a matter of time until the Biological sciences launched the Darwinian Revolution.

In order for the Earth to be stationary the stars have to be able to go around and above nightly, so that eliminates Mainstream Science's 78 billion light-year radius of the universe and then that destroys the 14 billion years age of the universe built upon that radius which knocks out the time prop needed for the evolution of the universe, Earth, and mankind. Belief in human evolutionism indirectly causes "immoral" (unlawful and Criminal ) behavior When people realize their fellow man must have been created and has not evolved from bacteria or animals then, again, they would have greater respect and awe for other created humans and not bomb them or do evil to them. In fact if there are great rewards they might be more inclined to help and to do good to others.

If people restored their belief in the Bible as an authentic Word of God there would be little crime or war in the world. No financial fraud or reneging on business agreements, no 55% State taxation, no fractional-reserve fake money, no fake Apollo moon landing, no fake Phoenix Mars Mission, no fake Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Mission, no self-inflicted 9/11 False Flag ops, no dead six million plus German Christians, no dead 500,000+ Iraqi kids, no ISIL, etc...

You have exhibited great humanitarian sentiment in your post and I am deeply appreciative of it!

I was born smarter than the average bear, and am an old man now, who has learned a lot including learning the hard way by being flummoxed by fellow humans who are less nice than I am.

I have studied the Bible extensively and seriously. I am covered by the redemption contract with the Saviour. Be alert that you are in the redemption contract and stay there, and do not get led into a ditch by anybody wanting to argue about details of the structure of the universe which are inconsequential to your eternal salvation.

You have raised many provocative points regarding the structure of the universe and the particular situation of the planet Earth. Of course Satan Devil has sent a herd of devils to try to divert your attention onto things of secondary importance. Due to the mathematical theory of Global Symmetry, ANY model that gives satisfactory "numbers" must be considered satisfactory. A round rotating Earth or a flat static Earth.

You have uttered statements that plainly reveal that you have a severe lack of knowledge of basic physics which makes much of your overall argument wrong. You have a good understanding of navigation and its maths, but unfortunately that avenue is practically irrelevant. That avenue is good for keeping you earthbound which is why Satan has sent some mesangers to lure your attention into that ditch.

Before now, I have given much thought to your thread subject and I have become convinced of a round rotating Earth, though my mind is always open to a truly convincing argument otherwise. God is so big and complex that it is not possible for any mere human to understand everything about His motives and methods. If you are engaged in the redemption contract with Jesus it is of no importance if you do not know exactly how He built His universe. All of your failings and sins are covered.

Do not be the blind one that is led into the ditch by those more blind than you are.

In my opinion the most important point is to examine old observations or do new experiments to determine for certain if there is an observable curvature to sea or land and conclude if were live on a flat plane or a convex plane.


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The ATLASGAL image of the "Imposible" plane of the Milky Way


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FFBLUB3d3Y

Watch at 4:20
Notice the horizon lines of earth will be curved but then flatten out as the camera swings.

Any image that shows a flat horizon is simply a distortion from the cameras lens.

Yes people the earth is a ball.
#Flat Earth Theory Dubunked
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Notice the horizon lines of earth will be curved but then flatten out as the camera swings.

Any image that shows a flat horizon is simply a distortion from the cameras lens.

Yes people the earth is a ball.
#Flat Earth Theory Dubunked
the horizon lines of earth will be curved

the Horizon is Always at Eye Level


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Massey Ferguson
MF 5610 on the Antarctica2 stand at EIMA 2014
Massey Ferguson Antarctica2 – the mission to the South Pole


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Old 05-23-2016, 03:42 AM
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aljhoa,

Why keep this insanely idiotic thread alive?
We now have a new hilarious entertainment channel here filled with the most ridiculous nonsense by our hot but empty headed master UFO and his oxyurian mouse who is now giving certificates of 'out-of-your-box'-ness after a secret examination.

Don't miss out.


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Why keep this insanely idiotic thread alive?
Ernst, why would you want to deprive 4400 viewers a different perspective?


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Aljhoa,
You don't really believe that this is about a different perspective, do you?
This is about someone going through a difficult phase in his/her life and trying a way to feel good about him/herself. So this person picks some ludicrous notion and starts defending it, knowing that he/she is wrong. Then every person that this person can convince is a giant ego-boost. The more absurd the notion, the bigger the boost.
Today we have the internet where many gullible witless drop-outs waste their already useless time and it is these nitwits that would go for these idiotic notions, because with their single cell brains a flat Earth is easier to grasp than a spherical one. And now they have a tool, which they can wield against the rest of the world who talk about things they can't comprehend. They can now say, "You are wrong", and think, "that is why I didn't understand a word of any of you". And feel good about themselves because now they are "out of the box".

This thread about the flat Earth is about the base line (for now). It is as low as anyone dares to go (for now). The Ken Wheeler case is slightly more advanced but it is based on the same principles. And there a couple more that I could mention, but won't.

If I remember correctly, it was you who added the hula-hoop picture to this thread, wasn't it? That really did a lot of good to this thread . But other than that, trust me, if someone chooses to believe in a flat Earth, there is no reasoning him/her out of it. In fact there is no reasoning with him/her at all, because the prime requisites for reasoning are missing. And then a hula-hoop might still trigger something .

Good luck Al!

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Ernst, @ least the website gets traffic.




The sun, "running in circles above the equator"



that’s about 6 miles above the base of the equilateral triangle,
this symbol represents.







The crepuscular rays prove that there are as many



as there are observers at various latitudes on the flat earth.



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And your animated gif also shows why the Aussies get only 8 hours of sun per day.
In the southern tip of South America it is about 5 hours.

Oh yes, the crepuscular rays prove that women are not observers.

Well, that's it. I've had enough already.

(this thread has got 1 view since yesterday and that must have been yours)

Enjoy!
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Well, that's it. I've had enough already.

(this thread has got 1 view since yesterday and that must have been yours)
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Ernst, thanks for your support.


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See Guy, I do not hide around badmouthing other members In this Forum... in other Threads...where Your very limited capacity...make you think...no one is gonna ever read your stupid comments...

I love to do it right in front of your Dutch Nose...because I am a MAN, NOT A RAT!

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Today we have the internet where many gullible witless drop-outs waste their already useless time and it is these nitwits that would go for these idiotic notions, because with their single cell brains a flat Earth is easier to grasp than a spherical one. And now they have a tool, which they can wield against the rest of the world who talk about things they can't comprehend. They can now say, "You are wrong", and think, "that is why I didn't understand a word of any of you". And feel good about themselves because now they are "out of the box".
Ernst,

Have You ever thought that statement above about "Out of the Box" could be just a "Psychological Mirror Imaging" of Yourself?...

I mean...ever thought about doing a "Self Psychoanalysis"?

I am pretty sure it would help you get out from the Psychotic World you're living in...

You seem very desperate...

My question to you is...


WHAT are You doing Here, on this Forum?

Just because you have presented some images about an Igloo-like house, which you say it does whatever?...when that "whatever" (supposedly transmitting energy through the "thin air"...LOL) and how it was done (details) have never, EVER been revealed on your thread...nor on any part of this Forum?

Definitively...Your position would never be neither "In nor Out of any Boxes"...

You are only inside your own world of hate...and I do feel pity for you.


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And this Quoted and referenced Post below, is in case You did not read it on my "Hilarious Entertainment" Thread...

I definitively, want to make sure you don't miss any of them!!

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An example of a RAT, and an A$$HOLE ONE...

A Couple of Ernst Posts on the Flat Earth Thread...

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aljhoa,

Why keep this insanely idiotic thread alive?
We now have a new hilarious entertainment channel here filled with the most ridiculous nonsense by our hot but empty headed master UFO and his oxyurian mouse who is now giving certificates of 'out-of-your-box'-ness after a secret examination.

Don't miss out.


Ernst.
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Today we have the internet where many gullible witless drop-outs waste their already useless time and it is these nitwits that would go for these idiotic notions, because with their single cell brains a flat Earth is easier to grasp than a spherical one. And now they have a tool, which they can wield against the rest of the world who talk about things they can't comprehend. They can now say, "You are wrong", and think, "that is why I didn't understand a word of any of you". And feel good about themselves because now they are "out of the box".

This thread about the flat Earth is about the base line (for now). It is as low as anyone dares to go (for now). The Ken Wheeler case is slightly more advanced but it is based on the same principles. And there a couple more that I could mention, but won't.

Good luck Al!

Ernst.
A real man, don't behave like this at all...going around spreading gossip and BS in THE BACK of other Members here just like Bítches do.

A real MAN comes right in front of WHOEVER he is BADMOUTHING and do it right there, with BALLS!

Only came here to "complaint" about not showing any proof as of now..what an A$$ HOLE!!

Particularly, I DO NOT TRUST anyone that "says" he or she is in the "search" for Free Energy, then spend his/her time running to the Patent Office all the time...!

I Would NOT TRUST anyone who says He/She has found WHATEVER related to ANY Discovery which could better Mankind, and keeps his mouth shut, because of EITHER an NDA Agreement...OR just Because He/She has to FIRST RUN to the Patent Office.


Like is the "case" of the Guy above, Ernst "The Walking Dutch Disease"

Could He be another Paid Shill...or just a cheap Patent Troll??

Because A RAT We all know He definitively IS!!


We definitively need some Pest Control CLEANING on this Forum...


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