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Old 05-08-2014, 12:01 AM
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Post Understanding John Searl's SEG

Hello everyone!
My name is Jason Verbelli and I work with Professor John Searl and Fernando Morris at Searl Magnetics in San Diego, CA.

I've been fortunate enough to have on-going conversations with John Searl for quite a while now.
A couple months ago, he moved from the UK and is now living in San Diego.

There seems to be a lot of questions regarding his technology, lack of context and mystery. Perhaps I can help turn some of that seemingly esoteric info into something more tangible with context.

Put together this PDF so people can get an idea of what is actually involved with easy to follow pictures to give examples of what I'm talking about.

Understanding the SEG - Reality of Costs/ "Blueprints" - Mock Up vs Prototype - Coherence vs Chaos - History of John Searl - Current Status of Project & Context:
Understanding John Searl's SEG

Not sure how to upload the PDF on Energetic Forum here. Might be too large of a file. It's about 135 MB at 254 pages. (so far)
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I'll be checking back to answer questions.
Please go through the PDF. Most of what you would ask is answered in there.
I've compiled info for the last 6 years and put it into 1 cohesive flow the best I can at this time.

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Do you have a different way to download the document? Scribd is blocked on my PC because it acts as spyware and a data mining engine.
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Old 05-08-2014, 03:30 AM
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Someone suggested this site called "DropCanvas.com" yesterday.
They started this page and I uploaded it there.
Apparently the "canvas" only lasts a few days, so I'd need to start a new canvas and upload again if this particular link expires by the time they visit:
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I can start a DropBox too and upload there.
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Thanks, dropcanvas worked well
Seems only for you because a free account has 1 gb bandwidth limit and its allready reached

https://rapidshare.com/home is maybe another solution.


Jason, so John Searl now lives again at the US? I thought hes somewhere in Asia and did build a SEG for what purpose ever, because he seems did not make it to the market, as he seems had in mind as he started. I followed him a while, and read much as i could find about it, but they didnt share to much about it.

At the beginning, he mentioned something that he magentize the magnets not simple straight but use some selfmade configuration after his law of quadrats. So basically, if someone even know the parts you cant build or test it without the proper magnets?
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So far the document looks like a goldmine. Very interesting and informative. Will start to read it through carefully. Many thanks.
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Old 05-08-2014, 05:03 PM
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Hi Joit!
I'll start the rapidshare account or whatever I need to do with that.
Thank you for the suggestion.


Yes, John Searl now lives in San Diego, California.
Back in 2002 - 2003, John Searl and Fernando Morris were in Thailand to pursue building the SEG with the established team there.
The lead guy there started using funds to build the Bill Muller Motor and go on tangents to experiment with other projects. It took up all the time and funding. Then in 2003 members of John's own team stole all the equipment and everything he had there. John pretty much gave up at that point. If it wasn't for Fernando Morris getting him back on his feet, that would have been the end.

And you are correct that John uses a completely different method to magnetize materials. It results in constructive and destructive interference fringes that correspond to a specific wavelength. Like imprinting a standing wave onto a magnet rather than just hitting it with DC and getting N/S.
There is still North and South, but with peaks and troughs. Each peak maintaining the field while the trough is cancelled. But very small like butterfly wing cuticles.
The magnetization process didn't come from the Law of Squares that I know of, but the configuration of the materials and their quantities do.

And yes, even if you know the parts to use, you still have to know what density those parts need to be. Not just outer dimensions.
There would be no way to test an actual SEG without manufacturing it to the needed specs. Which requires funding.
But we're working on it and moving forward regardless!
Our next step is to achieve "electron emissions". But that requires pressing the large stator ring and the smaller components, magnetizing them correctly and then moving them relative to each other.

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Old 05-08-2014, 10:28 PM
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Hi Joit!
I'll start the rapidshare account or whatever I need to do with that.
Thank you for the suggestion.


Yes, John Searl now lives in San Diego, California.
Back in 2002 - 2003, John Searl and Fernando Morris were in Thailand to pursue building the SEG with the established team there.
The lead guy there started using funds to build the Bill Muller Motor and go on tangents to experiment with other projects. It took up all the time and funding. Then in 2003 members of John's own team stole all the equipment and everything he had there. John pretty much gave up at that point. If it wasn't for Fernando Morris getting him back on his feet, that would have been the end.

And you are correct that John uses a completely different method to magnetize materials. It results in constructive and destructive interference fringes that correspond to a specific wavelength. Like imprinting a standing wave onto a magnet rather than just hitting it with DC and getting N/S.
There is still North and South, but with peaks and troughs. Each peak maintaining the field while the trough is cancelled. But very small like butterfly wing cuticles.
The magnetization process didn't come from the Law of Squares that I know of, but the configuration of the materials and their quantities do.

And yes, even if you know the parts to use, you still have to know what density those parts need to be. Not just outer dimensions.
There would be no way to test an actual SEG without manufacturing it to the needed specs. Which requires funding.
But we're working on it and moving forward regardless!
Our next step is to achieve "electron emissions". But that requires pressing the large stator ring and the smaller components, magnetizing them correctly and then moving them relative to each other.

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Hi Jason.
Are there any well documented tests available??
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Old 05-08-2014, 10:56 PM
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Thx for the reply Jason.
I think you dont need an account for rapidshare to use, just upload a file, else you could look for filesharing at the net too, there are few services. That dropcanvas has a limit of 1 gb each day, so over time i maybe can get it too. Once i get this file i may can spread it too anwhere.


So, back to the Topic, then it looks like what we now see at the Muller page is funded from the same guy what was invoolved at the SEG?
They worked a lot on it, made a special control circuit and tuned the duty cycles from it, even not sure, if they now control each coils seperate.
But still, they seems dont show plans or make a Device what they really want to try to sell. Only demonstrations.

I saw once a picture from the magnets, how they should be magentized, and it was like a pattern from a lot little quadrats. That why i thought he used his law anyhow, to not only magnetize it nsnsns beside the quadrats but maybe like nssnnsns. Well, seems i guessed wrong.
Do you ever think, that John searl will come once to the point where he can give them to the public? Because right now its allready a very long time under developement, and it still looks like it will not happen the next time. Hes getting old too, sad to see, but thats life, and who will continue his work, when it will be harder for him.
Maybe you try crowdfunding too as Hopegirl did at past :P
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Got the File now and hostet it somewhere else.
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Old 05-09-2014, 03:57 PM
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Hi Ben2503!
We have well documented tests of the MOCK UP.
But the Mock Up doesn't display any unusual phenomenon, doesn't generate bosons, has regular magnets, needs a conventional external power source, etc.

I put this pdf together to show people the difference between the mock up and Prototype. And what it will take to manufacture a working Prototype that we can test, etc.
Understanding John Searl's SEG

Unfortunately, can't test or document the uniquely magnetized materials until the materials themselves are manufactured to the needed densities and magnetized to the needed specs. There is no easy, cheap or quick route for that.

It's like trying to test a coherent beam of light before spending the time, money and effort to develop lasers. Can't test coherent electric currents until you spend the time, money and effort to R&D coherently made magnets.

There are 3rd Party validations up to a point.
From here, you'd have to look into Paul Murad's data and listen to his interview.
Paul Murad works with Tom Valone and some other pretty smart folks.

They have a company called Morningstar Energy Box.
Trying to duplicate Searl's technology. Or at least the design.
(But why spend hundreds of thousands to copy John Searl when you can use that funding to support him directly?)

Paul Murad:
Paul Murad's Searl Effect Generator

Murad Technical Data:
http://www.americanantigravity.com/f...eplication.pdf

Paul Murad found that as the RPM increased around the stator, that the stator's magnetic field increased!
With normal magnets, that doesn't happen. Increase in rotation doesn't increase field strength. But Murad's group "uniquely magnetized" their stator.
They don't specify how, but they do say it is different.
And without that difference, there would be no phenomenon.
For Us at Searl Magnetics to manufacture it to John's specifications requires the funding and time in our facility.

As the Morningstar unit increased RPM, the stator's field increased.
After 1000 RPM the components experienced over 100 G forces!
They expected the shrapnel and bits to fly outward from centrifugal force like normal.
But all the bits were collected On the stator.
Why?
Because there was a centripetal inward pull that overpowered the centrifugal outward push!
With increased RPM, the field intensified to proportionally hold the magnets inward. Constant equilibrium.

So, if the field strength of the stator intensifies with increased RPM...
And the rotating magnets around the stator feel the influence of that intensifying field...
What is there to diminish the fields as they normally would?

I'd say that's a pretty interesting documented point.
To document and test more requires more resources though.
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Old 05-09-2014, 04:14 PM
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Hi Joit!
The lead guy in Thailand had raised funds with Fernando Morris to specifically build the SEG and work on John's technology.
The lead guy started using those funds to build the Muller motor. Hoping to power his shop while working on the SEG.
So they went on tangents spending money on things that had nothing to do with John's technology. It pissed off Fernando and John majorly. Wasted all the funding and time. Then John was robbed. We might have SEGs if that didn't happen. Who knows.

John has made it clear (on camera) that he does Not want the SEG patented.
But rather to remain a trade secret. Much like how the recipe for Coca Cola is a trade secret and not patented.

Once enough is achieved to eventually enter mass production, it will still cost thousands of dollars to make a unit. The price of copper and neodymium will definitely shoot up when that happens in the future.
So, to "give away" SEGs to the public isn't reasonable. In the beginning there would have to be some test period for a year or 2 before going public.
And even still, you can't just "go to market" with something like the SEG. Or Any exotic technology.
Would have to slowly phase it in to the existing structure over the course of a couple years under the guise of an already accepted technology. Then say after a couple years of practical use, "guess what, the energy was actually coming from This.." Collect the data for a couple years and then slowly phase it in. While providing the info that's already been collected. Harder to deny that.

Fernando Morris, myself and a couple others will continue John's work regardless. His legacy will live forever. We'll make sure of that!

The crowdfunding is a new avenue we are pursuing.
Lots of legalities to be wary of.
We had a couple insightful guys visit our facility and they are in the midst of helping with the crowdsourcing options.
We were legally prevented from pursuing that before because of our corporate structure. (which has sense been reformatted)
Only accredited investors were legally able to purchase shares in the parent company. But now, things are less binding and we can see what avenues the crowdfunding can open up!
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Thank you for making me feel welcome.
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A lot in this to get my head around, some of the things seem to make sense to me like getting the density right, but there sure is a lot to it.
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Correct! There is an ungodly amount to wrap one's mind around.
When John first developed the SEG, he walked into a multi-million dollar infrastructure and had free access to everything!
Megawatts of power, a caged magnetizer bigger than the room you're sitting in, teams of engineers, he didn't have to pay labor, medical benefits, liability insurance, rent, had all the tools and materials provided, etc. (Except the neodymium powder from China. That cost 65 cents a kilo back then.)
Was so cheap because the only place it was used was to tint glass purple.
For John to do what he did back then, it only cost him about 108 british pounds.
Today, we would have to purchase that entire infrastructure from scratch, and at modern prices. And pay the labor, utilities, rent, and all that Per employee and by the hour.
That represents a few million dollars worth of industrial resources.
John was at the right place at the right time back then.
With all of those unlimited resources, it still took almost a year of full time work with trials and lots of errors before getting everything right.

To duplicate that will cost some dough.
No Bucks.. no Buck Rogers.
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John says the SEG will produce about 90 watts per pound.
So a 3 Ringed SEG would provide 15kW. That would weigh about 166 pounds.
With the housing, pick-up coils, etc, would be about 180 - 200 pounds.
If the density isn't right, the unit won't function.
The tolerances are extremely tight. Can't be more than .05 grams off in weight.
(The 3 rings of the SEG are additive in power. The inner most stator set and rollers would produce about 2000 watts. That is the input for the second concentric stator which would produce about 5000 watts. That additive power of 7000 watts would be the input for the 3rd outer concentric stator which would output the additional 8000 for a total of 15kW)
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1 reason superconductivity would occur inside the SEG is because of the spatially and temporally coherent peaks and troughs of poles making up the field lines.

Normal magnets have fields that are "always on."
But John's magnets have standing wave interference pattern corresponding to a given wavelength.
There are constructive and destructive interference fringes.
The peaks are all North Pole on the top half of the magnet and the peaks are all South Pole on the bottom half of the magnet. (axial)
But the troughs are points of 0 magnetism. Cancellations.
Which act as a ribbed structure. Like the cuticles of the Morpho Butterfly wing. (peaks and troughs. Light and dark ridges)

Even the most basic premise of Binary Code is 1's and 0's. On and Off.
1 reason why superconductivity would arise in the SEG is from the interaction between 2 like magnetic fringe patterns moving in relation to each other. Like the sprockets of helical gears.
The peak of 1 wave matches the trough of the other wave.
As they interact in motion relative to each other in an orbit and centripetal spin, Bosons are generated.
Why?
No one knows and that will take some scientific testing when the time comes.
John says that as a free "electron" is drawn to the positively charged neodymium core, that a valence "electron" from the neodymium atom is paired with that free "electron".
Then they are compressed and accelerated through the dielectric layer. Quantum tunneling about a laser-like coherent magnetic field. (from the ridges)

So, rather than a standard magnet generating "incandescent electrons", John Searl's magnets act more like a monochromatic source in the regard that only a specific charge of "electrons" would be allowed through the system.
Like a diode. But rather than an LED (Light Emitting Diode), I think it would be more like an EED (electron emitting diode)

So, I'm not sure if the SEG would filter out only 1 particular wavelength.... or if it would change the internal kinetic energy of All surrounding wavelengths to the 1 particular coherent wavelength allowed through the diode (SEG).

That would be 2 different scenarios.

I've heard John mention that the SEG "absorbs all frequencies" and converts them to the 1 operating frequency.

That might mean that the 1 wavelength only being harnessed is only the first part.
And that All given wavelengths of "electrons" are "converted" to a charge equal to that of the wavelength being harnessed.
(But only within the "vicinity")

Don't know if this makes the equation more or less difficult.
O_o
Almost all of the 'keywords' are there, missing is perhaps 'a vortex of x-charged monopoles, that eliminate the Lentz BEMF'
what a load of sh*t.
Please provide a clear theory and proper experiments / measurements that support the theory.
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Ben2503, Thank you for your kind, well thought out response!

Did you read my original reply to you, look through the Morningstar Energy Box links or the 200 page PDF I put together?
I never said anything about back EMF.
The Lenz law applies here in the regard that the resulting eddy currents create a frictionless bearing between roller and stator.
There is still resistance between magnet and coil.
I don't believe in magnetic "monopoles" and I never used that term.
If you read through the pdf, you'll see the current status of our experiments, what we have achieved and what we are aiming to do.
I'm here to learn, ask questions and get the insight of like-minded folks who are willing to entertain new concepts and help me out.
If you're not familiar with the concept of coherent electricity then I can understand your lack of context.

Understanding John Searl's SEG

Murad audio Interview:
Paul Murad's Searl Effect Generator

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On the SEG

Jason,

Many thanks for making available your information. I've done rapid learning on the SEG since stumbling on it yesterday. I'm an engineer and tirelessly search for ways to improve and create regenerative power.

This device caught my eye because #1 there is fantastic temperature drop during power generation. This is absolutely necessary if there will be any kind of 'free' energy power generation and can be confirmed by recalling our well-established classical mechanics energy conservation equations. This could be further explained if one entertains the idea the device creates a toroidal vacuum around its envelope.

#2, magnetic theory is very incomplete and is easily recognized when considering superconductivity. I believe a device would likely operate on magnetic principles we've yet to understand.

What I don't quite like is the supposed free energy source explained for the SEG operation. From what I gather, they are basically anions or negatively charged particles correct? Is there any literature available that can produce some type of average anion density for regular atmospheric air? I searched but found nothing concrete. Being the power source, this figure is fundamental and necessarily needs to be explained.

Also instructive would be an example of how the rule of squares can be extrapolated onto a physical system. I recall the SEG damanding the squares rule be used when making the densities of each 1000+ piece, can you give some detail on this? There are several duplicate pieces, how is the rule adapted for duplicate pieces and duplicate sets? I do hope there aren't several underlying assumptions.

With that being said, Psuedo-science has an unbelievable pull on factual science yet every game-changing discovery is exhaustively unwelcomed and ill-received by the science community. This is an unfortunate but necessary characteristic of the scientific method. I urge you to quit right now if participating in a farce, however if not, please increase clarity as you continue your research. Funding follows profitability and profitability only exists where there is legitimacy. We all want to believe you, just show us how. The 197 page 'Understanding the SEG' you posted is an insightful start but lacks the legitimacy it was meant to stress. I know venture capitalists who would throw $10-$50 million at this in a heartbeat if there were more to drool over.

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Hi Vince!

Thank you for your open-minded response.

I have a lot more studying to do to improve my terminology. And can use all the insight possible to increase my own understanding to do the information justice.

Magnetic theory is indeed in its infancy.
There needs to be some top grade minds willing to entertain these perspectives and assist in the formulae.
Would also be nice to have some top grade software to help project and map the complex interaction of fields.

Again, from what I understand so far, all known magnets are made using high capacitive discharge and strictly DC.
John's process doesn't use capacitive discharge but rather a modulated current which requires more power. He also uses DC with superimposed AC.

From a 1986 letter by an unknown party attempting to duplicate John's process:
"The polarization is a unique magnetizing process where DC is pulsed into a coil at the self-resonant frequency of the AC coil, which is tightly coupled to the DC winding. The pulsed DC alone produces a fringing pattern in a blank magnet due to the field not being fully saturated. A standing wave pattern is simultaneously set-up in the blank magnet due to the resonating AC coil and field. The end result is a permanent magnet with a conventional north and south pole along with a unique track of poles proportional to the applied frequency.”

There are 2 energy sources for the SEG. The internal energy source of the cores and the sustaining energy source from the surrounding environment.

The internal energy source is the kinetic energy of valence electrons in the atoms making up the rare-earth cores which are constantly replenished on demand in proportion to load.
(A unique property of lanthanides that should be further investigated.)

More load = more positive charge of the core, which in turn, proportionally draws in more negatively charged electrons from the surrounding environment. The attracted free electrons fill the outer shell of each atom that lost its valence from drawing a load.
Those newly replaced electrons only remain for an “instant” before leaving their position in the outer shell and making their way through the system. 1 leaves and another fills its place at a constant rate (in proportion to load.)

The SEG harnesses kinetic energy of electrons on the quantum level much like how the kinetic energy of water is harnessed in a hydroelectric dam.
There’s an energy cycle in the atmosphere with water as an open system. Just as there’s an energy cycle in the SEG with “electrons” as an open system.

Rain fills a reservoir like electrons fill the rare-earth core.
(Any rare-earth can work. But raw neodymium is the most available and cost effective lanthanide, which is why it’s used as the inner most concentric stator ring.)

The reservoir in the case of the SEG is the outer shell of each neodymium atom making up the core. The valence “electrons” fill the shell like water fills a basin.
The reservoir is dammed up to create pressure and potential.
There is weight and pressure from water on the wall of a dam.
Just as there is pressure from electrons on the dielectric Teflon layer. (2nd concentric stator ring)

Dielectric materials and insulators act as a dam for electricity like the water analogy.

Water from a dam is shot through holes/ slits.
The pressure sends the water in jet streams. There’s coherent kinetic energy of all water molecules forced to channel out of the hole.

Similar to how electrons tunnel through the lattice of the atoms making up the dielectric layer. Fermions cannot pass through insulators, but Bosons can. (Cooper Pairs)

The hole in a dam forces the water out in a coherent flow which focuses the kinetic energy of the water to turn a turbine. The turbine generates electricity. The holes/ slits in the case of the SEG are the spaces between atoms making up the dielectric layer. The pressure compresses the electrons and they tunnel through.

The water molecules floating about in the natural environment are in a state of incoherence. Because of that incoherence, the kinetic energy is distributed in a cloud-like state rather than focused in a jet-stream. The flow of water molecules shooting out of a hole in a pressurized dam is coherent. Which is like simulating a beam of kinetic energy. That same potential is all around us. But it has to be dammed up first to create the needed pressure.

After the electrons tunnel through the dielectric layer, they're accelerated radially outward by the uniquely imprinted magnetic fields. And then emitted by the copper layer.

The turbines in this case are the orbiting rollers. The kinetic energy of the electrons shoot out in streams horizontally.
(From every pore and space between atoms making up the dielectric layer)
But radially, from the center out. Magnets move 90 degrees to an electric current which is why the rollers orbit the stator in the first place.

What happens to water after it turns a turbine in a hydroelectric dam?
It eventually evaporates and becomes part of the incoherent environment again. Which then precipitates back into the reservoir completing the cycle.
As an open system.

Much like how the bosons emitted by the SEG de-couple after being harnessed in the pickup coils. The single fermions quickly charge up in the incoherent environment (outside the SEGs close proximity) and are then attracted to the positively charged neodymium core.
Then the cycle repeats in a toroidal circuit.

Radial emissions outward at the equator and vortices at the poles.
Nothing created or destroyed.
Only already existing energy cycled and then recycled.

As the valence of neodymium is stripped from the atom, the more electrons are extracted from the incoherent environment to nearly instantly replace the ones that get stripped away.

The harnessed energy isn't "free" per say. Meaning, the energy isn't just manifested from "nothing". It's a cyclical conversion process. Just like the cycle of water in the atmosphere. (with an added man made dam)

If you had your own hydroelectric dam to power your home, you wouldn't have to pay for the energy it reaped once it was set up. In that regard, the energy would be free, and perpetually sustained by the natural environment.

You couldn't use more water than what is in the reservoir, even if you opened the spill ways and powered your house at peak all day.
The rate at which the Natural environment replenishes the reservoir with rain is faster than what you can deplete in the totality of what is dammed up.

Something has to be expended to generate power though. In this case, what gives is the temperature/ heat.
(Abiding by the 1st Law of Thermodynamics)
Just because an environment is cold doesn’t mean it lacks electrons.

Lucky, there is still temperature/ incoherence everywhere in the Universe. Even in the depths of space it doesn't really get below 4 Kelvin from what I've read. Which means there is kinetic energy of incoherent electrons to harness even in the vacuum of space.
But what is heat again? The bi-product of kinetic energy being lost from incoherent turbulence on a quantum level.

Coherently made magnets in a coherently made system do not generate the same incoherent fermions we're used to. And that requires massive study. (which requires adequate funding.)
It’s the difference between the kinetic energy of water vapor in the atmosphere verses the kinetic energy of water coming out of a hole in a large dam.

All known electric systems harness fermions which are cloud-like. You can move a fan blade by blowing air at it. There’s kinetic energy moving the fan blade and it works. But what if you blasted a stream of condensed water (condensed meaning liquid, not mist) at the fan blade? Lots more force now.

It’s not the magnets alone that initiate a cycle and recycling of energy. Nor is it the magnets alone that generate the pressure needed to generate bosons. It’s the Entire system working together as 1 cycle.
Each component plays its role. Without it, there would be no loop.

The density of the Neodymium must be enough to maintain a large enough reservoir of electrons for peak output.

If the density is off, it would to like trying to turn a turbine with the force of water coming out of a hole in the side of a bucket. Rather than with the force of water coming out of a hole in a large dam.

If the density of the Teflon isn't right, then it would be like having a paper thin wall for a large dam. The wall of the dam will break and the system will be compromised and flood with too much energy.

If the wall of a dam is too thick, the water will loose kinetic energy by the time is makes its way out the hole. If there’s just a trickle of water, it won’t have enough force to spin a turbine.

The kinetic energy from the "electron streams" turns the rollers with so much force, the amount of resistance caused by drawing a load is negligible in comparison. The amount of energy you can draw from a given unit, (regardless of how large) wouldn’t deplete the total supply of available energy in the grand scheme of things.

Would be like trying to empty a lake by scooping water out using a tea cup… while it’s raining into the lake. You couldn’t scoop water out fast enough even if you tried really hard with a big bucket.
You’re whole neighborhood could try to deplete the total supply to no avail. The reservoir would just keep filling up from the natural cycle of water in the atmosphere.

Just like powering a neighborhood with SEGs wouldn’t deplete the energy being harnessed because there is a constant cycle naturally filling the “reservoirs” faster than you could deplete them. The amount of energy creating pressure is already built up by the time the system is started. It’s literally like trying to empty a dammed up lake with a bucket while it’s raining.

Think of the grander cycle of energy. Think outside the box. And have an open mind. As in… view the longest lasting energy cycles as open systems rather than closed/ isolated systems.
The “electrons” that power the SEG are the same "electrons" you feel right now as temperature. There is a focused flow to turn the rollers. Without that focused jet stream of “electrons”, the rollers would slow down in proportion to load like any other conventional system.
But the SEG isn’t conventional. It’s Unconventional.

The SEG harnesses the kinetic energy of the “electron itself.”
Just like a hydroelectric dam harnesses the kinetic energy of water.

John Searl's technology and our R&D pursuit to gain more understanding is genuine. Just as the pursuit of Tom Valone, Paul Murad and Morningstar Energy Box to understand John's technology is genuine. As are the projects pursued by the Russians.

I agree that the pdf is good for giving people basic insight. But I need help to improve my own understanding if I want to be able to do justice when communicating these ideas. I need to make sense to the people who can truly help with the more technical aspects. Otherwise it sounds too esoteric without the proper context.
Not having as much literature to refer to on the concepts John Searl talks about (and demonstrated in the past) makes it extra difficult.

“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.”
But sometimes obtaining extraordinary proof requires extraordinary resources. Especially if you’re using extraordinary methods with extraordinary precision. Nothing is ordinary about the SEG and its construction.

I'll need more time be able to answer technical questions effectively. Which is 1 reason why I'm on this forum.

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Does the machine produce more electricity than it takes to run it?
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Hi Dave!
Awesome question.

No.
No 'Overunity" or magic needed. There is a proportional temperature drop to electric output.
I'm not fond of the concept of a closed system producing "more out than in".

The SEG is an Open System though.
Just as a hydroelectric dam doesn't produce more energy than required to "run it".
What is the "input power" to run a hydroelectric dam?

The already existing water is dammed up. No magic there. The pressure is used to turn turbines.
You get an equal amount of force to turn the turbine as you have pressure built up.
There is no "input power" in an open system scenario persay, nor does the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics apply to the totality of the cycle of an open system.

Same principle with the SEG but instead of cycling the kinetic energy of already present water on a macro scale, it cycles the kinetic energy of already existing electrons on the quantum level.
There's still a diminishing of "total energy". Just as there is a diminishing of the total volume of water in a dam when you use the kinetic energy to turn a turbine.
But the peak amount you can possibly draw in relation to the amount available is infinitesimally negligible.
As you use the kinetic energy of water from a dam, the water in the environment naturally evaporates and rains to fill the reservoir. And at a faster rate than what you could deplete out of the total volume of water in the dam. Just as if you draw a load from the SEG, the environment would naturally replenish the valence of neodymium atoms making up the cores.

It's like the concept of trying to bucket out water from a dammed up lake while in the rain.
Sure, you're depleting the total volume of water dammed up. But does it matter?
Would be futile efforts and silly to think one could deplete the total volume of water dammed up and at a faster rate than what the natural environment simultaneously refills it.

We don't say that the dam provides "more energy than required to run it".
We say, the dam provides energy equal to the kinetic energy of water turning the turbine.

But what about the water that actually turns the turbine?
Where did it come from and where does it go after it passes the turbine?
It's a natural cycle already in existence.

What about the electrons that turn the rollers of the SEG?
Where do they come from and where do they go after they pass the rollers?
Again, it's a natural cycle.

There's no overunity involved with the cycle of water in the atmosphere, nor is there overunity involved with the cycle of "electrons" in the SEG.
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Not sure if this has been posted. Thought I'd pass along the link to a Jan 1st, 2015 interview with John Searle:
http://www.searlsolution.com/JRRS_TA...W_JAN_2015.mp3
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Hi Bob! I just uploaded that interview with a bunch of images and context.
So people an read and investigate the links.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PfgetmMsBA

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I'll be checking back to answer questions.
Nice write-up Jason.

My main question...

Do you think a Russ Gries could replicate and demonstrate a functional SEG, or does this technology require too much precision and costly material selection?
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Hi Dog-One!!

I'm good friends with Russ. He's visited the lab in San Diego. There's no way he could replicate the SEG because he has standard equipment.
The magnetizer needed uses a pulsed DC with superimposed AC. And no high capacitive discharge. Costs well over a million dollars to develop.
Russ has standard magnetizing equipment (like the rest of the world) which uses a bank of capacitors to hammer the metal.
It requires a team of engineers and almost 2 years full time work to make a fully functional SEG in modern day. If we had unlimited resources and an already established infrastructure, then it would only take a few months.

It's extremely costly and unreasonably precise. Russ would be a person I'd want on my team to make the SEG though!
But not he, nor any 1 person could ever do it. Takes a few million dollars and a team of engineers.

The materials are known. Neodymium, Teflon, and Copper.
It's the magnet that is the hard part. Can't start building the neo, teflon and copper until you make the magnetic rings. Which dictate the dimensions of the other components.
So, without the magnetizer, you can't even start making the parts really.
You can practice and learn how to go about it. But actually doing it requires full funding and certain steps.
Can't just manufacture everything and then do the magnet part last.

Everything is made according to density. So the tolerances are very tough. Each segment has to weigh no less than 34 grams. Which means you need 272 grams for each roller. That works out to a tolerance of about 3 grams for the whole unit!!!
That means Each Component has to have a tolerance of .05 grams to function properly.
Very high precision.

Russ can demonstrate aspects OF the technology. But to put it ALL together requires the time, money and effort.
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Is there any interest in partnering Searl Magnetics with a larger company? Like Google or Apple or something? (obviously not a power company)
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Thank God someone actually visited the page again and saw the updates!
I obviously need a better plan of having people see the information.

We are Very open to partnering with larger companies!
Would love to have a representative visit our facility in San Diego, meet with Professor Searl and Fernando Morris, and see what we have, what our goals are and the current stage of development.

Need all the help and insight we can get!
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