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The method isn't being disclosed, and I find it unfortunate, but this is was expected. I can and do respect that the inventor(s) must protect their interests and the that of their investors, investor isn't limited to those who fund your research. With that being said, I don't think its necessary to try and figure out what they are doing, I think it wiser to find a similar method, one which is by no means the same thing, but could be considered as a step in a similar direction.

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I said the same thing 2 post back. It is like trying to copy a rock bands music (if you have a band) you can only play what comes out of YOU and then it doesn't sound like the band you were copying.

Then a guy will copy an experiment and he can't get all of the pieces or parts to complete the mission and comes up with a new find.

The process we all go throgh is finding any common denominator. Now that is a job so we look in on all of these inventors with their inventions thinking humm... what does that have to do with anything.

The list grows as to what I thought might contribute to special effects with no end in sight. It is like a drunk blind man trying to climb the mountain.

So when I gave up trying to copy everyone exactly I decided to look at the Patents many years ago. I became even more confused because the document are often delivered in such a fashion as to mislead you intentionally.

I don't know what to think anymore. Just get some magnets and put then into spin and see if you can get mechanical? Well maybe this and maybe that.

I have no idea what the common denominator is and when someone finds that let me know. Till then I figure keep my hands busy learning the basics of how to make pulses.

As far as we are concerned here the SERPS is just another proprietary unit and very well should be since none of us are entitle to another mans work for free and taking for granted that someone should just hand it over free of charge is disgusting to any thinking person.

There is nothing worse than a man who demands everything and takes it all for granted, however I don't see anything wrong with looking in on the basic operation of these guys invention and rejoicing with them in their success story.

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With that being said, I don't think its necessary to try and figure out what they are doing, I think it wiser to find a similar method, one which is by no means the same thing, but could be considered as a step in a similar direction.
If anyone looks at that 1.1 watt waveform from the transformer output and focuses on accomplishing THAT by whatever schematic, that is probably the best place to start for experimenters.

This four quadrant principle as applied in the SERPS has never been discussed before. What Jim is sharing about the SERPS and Paul's partnership in helping to make the science itself understandable, this is way more than anyone has received who were required to sign NCND's, etc...

erfinder - this is not addressed to you, just a general message. This is really a whole "new" way of looking at how to "recycle" AC electricity - new to everyone but Jim and maybe a few others - and most people with something of this magnitude are so paranoid behind the scenes they'll never come forward. It is really a ground breaking presentation that can put people on a very fruitful path if they just focus on applying the principles shared.

From my perspective, it is way simpler to forget about all the reactive power jargon, because it really is different than that. Jim says Reactive Watts, but that is because it is actual work being done on the reflection back.

I had a long talk with Peter a few days ago about the technical details of what is going on and although we see things different in terms of semantics and a few specific definitions of what is going on based on our own way of viewing things - and some I can't really form an opinion on yet because Peter has a much larger background in these principles than I do (so Peter has left me in a position to have to do more research! lol) - we definitely agree that it is still completely in alignment with the principles that operate in all other "overunity" devices including the Bedini SG and others.

Although there is no "magic" going on with the SERPS, it is a complete mind blower. Jim did say in the Japanese demo that there is extra energy in the current.

I don't know if this is a proper analogy, but Bearden describes how the "Heaviside Flow" (aetheric current) over a wire - only 1/11 trillionth of it gets diverged into the copper of the wire and gets the electrons (electron current) to jiggle downline in the opposite direction. With that being said, isn't there plenty of potential available to do all kinds of work if there was a way to just tap into more of what is already there?

Bearden (I think) mentioned that conceptually because of that, a little AA battery could power a battleship. I can't think of another machine that demonstrates the reality of this concept than the SERPS.

And, it has never been proven that anything is "consumed" in a light bulb to make light. The idea that electrons are turning into photons and emitting as light is nothing more than an old idea that rarely goes challenged.

I already accept it as an indisputable fact (until evidence shows otherwise) that the magnetic field in an inductor is not proportionate to the energy moving through it. I know this by theory and experimental results. Paul Babcock's Magnetic Energy Secrets presentation shows this for example... the field is created by the movement of electricity through the coil and not by the consumption of it. Something along these lines appears to be happening in the light bulb.
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I don't know if this is a proper analogy, but Bearden describes how the "Heaviside Flow" (aetheric current) over a wire - only 1/11 trillionth of it gets diverged into the copper of the wire and gets the electrons (electron current) to jiggle downline in the opposite direction. With that being said, isn't there plenty of potential available to do all kinds of work if there was a way to just tap into more of what is already there?
I have no idea what Tom Bearden knows or what he doesn't know. My gut tells me the authorities know more than they are saying. I say that because, US Patent no.:

6,392,370 Device and Method of a Back EMF Permanent Electromagnetic Motor Generator

has a section in it where the author, who reads like Tom Bearden, has a "reworded" version and or explanation of the "Heavyside Flow", the author also goes as far as to suggest the means by which one, in this case the author and his associates, can modify specific circuit parameters, enabling one, again the author and his associates, to capture more of this Heavyside Flow.

Quote from 6,392,370:

Once the generator or battery source dipole is formed (the dipole is attached also to the external circuit), it is well known in particle physics that the dipole (as is any charge) is a broken symmetry in the vacuum energy flux. By definition, this means that the source dipole extracts and orders part of that energy received from its vacuum interaction, and pours that energy out as the energy flowing through all space surrounding the external conductors in the attached circuit. Most of this enormous energy flow surging through space surrounding the external circuit does not strike the circuit at all, and does not get intercepted or utilized. Neither is it diverged into the circuit to power the electrons, but passes on out into space and is just "wasted". Only a small "sheath" of the energy flow along the surface of the conductors strikes the surface charges in those conductors and is thereby diverged into the circuit to power the electrons. Standard texts show the huge available but wasted energy flow component, but only calculate the small portion of the energy flow that strikes the circuit, is caught by it, and is utilized to power it.

In a typical circuit, the huge available but "wasted" component of the energy flow is about 10.sup.13 times as large as is the small component intercepted by the surface charges and diverged into the circuit to power it. Hence, around every circuit and circuit element such as a coil, there exists a huge non-intercepted, non-diverged energy flow that is far greater than the small energy flow being diverted and used by the circuit or element.

Thus there exists an enormous untapped energy flow immediately surrounding every EMF power circuit, from which available excess energy can be intercepted and collected by the circuit, if respective non-linear actions are initiated that sharply affect and increase the reaction cross section of the circuit (i.e., its ability to intercept this available but usually wasted energy flow).

The method in which the motor of the present invention alters the reaction cross section of the coils in the circuit, is by a novel use, which momentarily changes the reaction cross section of the coil in which it is invoked. Thus, by this new motor using only a small amount of current in the form of a triggering pulse, it is able to evoke and control the immediate change of the coil's reaction cross section to this normally wasted energy flow component. As a result, the motor captures and directs some of this usually wasted environmental energy, collecting the available excess energy in the coil and then releasing it for use in the motor. By timing and switching, the innovative gate design in this new motor directs the available excess energy so that it overcomes and reverses the return EMF of the rotor-stator pole combination during what would normally be the back EMF and demonstrates the creation of the second back EMF of the system. Now instead of an "equal retardation" force being produced in the back EMF region, a forward EMF is produced that is additive to the rotor/flywheel energy and not subtractive. In short, it further accelerates the rotor/flywheel.

This results in a non-conservative magnetic field along the rotor's path. The line integral of the field around that path (i.e., the net work on the rotor/flywheel to increase its energy and angular momentum) is not zero but a significant amount. Hence, the creation of an asymmetrical back EMF impulse magnetic motor: 1) takes its available excess energy from a known external source, the huge usually non-intercepted portion of the energy flow around the coil; 2) further increases the source dipolarity by this back EMF energy; and 3) produces available excess energy flow directly from the source dipole's increased broken symmetry in its fierce energy exchange with the local vacuum.

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I find it interesting how the work of Heavyside has become someone else's intellectual property? Its fascinating how all of the authorities are basically saying the same thing, sad thing is none of them are willing to just outright say they have spent years convincing themselves and their fan base to believe. Is free energy real...? No, is overunity real....? No. Is there more energy available but just out of reach surrounding "Power EMF" circuits...yup! Will those in the know demonstrate how to effectively change the "reactive cross section" so that we can do what is being suggested in all of these emerging "principles"?


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I had to rebuild it the last 3 days, so I have to catch up again.
I will be getting the New video from the conference

The Secret of Tesla's Power Magnification by Jim Murray & Paul Babcock

when I am done with rebuilding the PC.
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I would like to add that Paul did post a schematic for an inductor type of SERPS machine he stumbled upon while in Alaska... so there is a real schematic of a machine that one could build that save a lot of gas and it probably wasn't tuned to maximize the effect. Paul didn't understand at the time why it worked and only later connected it with the SERPS concept.

So there is some practical things in the video.

And, the reason Paul talks so much about using his switch with the SERPS is NOT because of the fast timing, it is because it acts most like a true mechanical switch in that it controls an SCR and is able to turn it on and off at will.... an SCR has practically no voltage drop across it so it does not dissipate energy like a MOSFET or a BJT. But MOSFETs still work ok.
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@ Efinder Thanks for the notes on invention, I get lazy and won't go look them up anymore. Pretty good though.


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Here is another shot of the transformer in the video. It has a non closed core if that means anything and since I am unable to go as far into the subject matter as the rest here I still noted this item.

I don't know why but I think it is important somehow.



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I have no idea what Tom Bearden knows or what he doesn't know. My gut tells me the authorities know more than they are saying. I say that because, US Patent no.:

6,392,370 Device and Method of a Back EMF Permanent Electromagnetic Motor Generator

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I find it interesting how the work of Heavyside has become someone else's intellectual property? Its fascinating how all of the authorities are basically saying the same thing, sad thing is none of them are willing to just outright say they have spent years convincing themselves and their fan base to believe. Is free energy real...? No, is overunity real....? No. Is there more energy available but just out of reach surrounding "Power EMF" circuits...yup! Will those in the know demonstrate how to effectively change the "reactive cross section" so that we can do what is being suggested in all of these emerging "principles"?
Depends on who the "authorities" are - I believe the military industrial complex has EVERY advanced solution to ever single problem in the world - energy, medical, etc... G.E., you name it...

The popular names "authorities" out in front of the public on these matters have their own well-being to consider, and they should but they are coming forward to show more and more every year.

I haven't read that Bedini patent for years, but that is exactly what I'm talking about and the SERPS demonstrates this. What else accounts for "extra energy in the current"?

I don't think the patent claims rights to Heaviside's science as "physics can't be patented" but just a practical method to tap into what the science said is supposed to be there.

Here is something to consider... Eric Dollard says the the energy or watt seconds represents the rate at which electricity is being destroyed. John Bedini has said for years that the meters only measure what is wasted. They're talking about the same thing. What the meters see is that small component of electron current induced into movement by the "Heaviside Flow", which destroys the dipole at a certain rate. Therefore, the real electricity that does things is really that Heaviside Flow or the "dielectricity" component termed by Eric, which moves over the wires as if the wires are the wave guide. So whatever the significance of this - it is something that should be considered in all of this.

The denial of free energy, etc... I know this from my experience listening to many of these people for a long time. "Free Energy" "Overunity", etc... it is all semantics. My opinion, yes, there is free energy.

Bedini would say there is no free energy because you have to pay for it - you have to invest something to get it. While that is true, meaning you're obviously getting a return on your investment, the environmental source potential that comes in and does real work is free. Free work is being done above and beyond what we have to contribute so therefore it is free energy. Jim Murray and Paul Babcock don't like the terms free energy or overunity for similar reasons. So this "denial" of free energy really is just a very pragmatic opinion.

Jim Murray says the SERPS results are not from the aether, etc... and can be explained by very common and known electrical understanding. But the moment any AC generator, etc... starts to turn, there is a breaking of the symmetry of the vacuum or polarizing of the aether so all the electricity still is manifest by that organized flow of dielectricity or "Heaviside Flow". It certainly isn't required to believe any of this in order to make a machine that works.

So I'd just encourage everyone to focus on what really matters and it isn't the definitions or semantics of the language people use to describe things. What matters is that there is a scope shot of what leaves the transformer and there are a limited amount of practical ways to accomplish that with normal transformers, caps, resistors, etc... And like Silver to Gold said, Paul did show a diagram of what reduced the load the generator saw - it isn't the same SERPS circuit, but it accomplishes what is described in the presentation. That presentation is worth more than its weight in gold.
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I would like to add that Paul did post a schematic for an inductor type of SERPS machine he stumbled upon while in Alaska... so there is a real schematic of a machine that one could build that save a lot of gas and it probably wasn't tuned to maximize the effect. Paul didn't understand at the time why it worked and only later connected it with the SERPS concept.

So there is some practical things in the video.

And, the reason Paul talks so much about using his switch with the SERPS is NOT because of the fast timing, it is because it acts most like a true mechanical switch in that it controls an SCR and is able to turn it on and off at will.... an SCR has practically no voltage drop across it so it does not dissipate energy like a MOSFET or a BJT. But MOSFETs still work ok.
I agree, seems it's been done already?

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Series and parallel operation of the emitter turn-off

By dramatically decreasing the storage time, the emitter turn-off thyristor (ETO) has a very good match in storage time. Storage time dispersion of less than [+ or -]100 ns is normal for ETOs and can be further reduced through adjustment of the emitter switch gate resistance. Thus, the capacitance required for dynamic voltage balancing in the ETO series connection is significantly reduced. Uniform current sharing for parallel-connected ETOs is also guaranteed at the device level through the open-base p-n-p turn-off mechanism. The current-balancing inductance can be essentially removed. Theoretical analysis and experimental results of 53-mm ETOs are presented. Index Terms--Emitter turn-off, emitter turn-off thyristor, gate turn-off thyristor, integrated gate-commutated thyristor, MOS turn-off thyristor, thyristor, unity gain turn-off.

Series and parallel operation of the emitter turn-off (ETO) thyristor.(Abstract) - Version details - Trove

These designs are made for series/parallel operations.

Thanks for the heads up Mario. It is another piece of the puzzle.

That DVD should help the guys who can build these circuits that produce that wave shape. Some of the guys here can build any circuit in few minutes.

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Building a generator of Tesla's time one parameter is frequency.
18.5 kHz might be a little slow concidering skin effect but 185 kHz is still a lot of turns.
Harmonic and also resonating with the capacitor dielectric.

Another parameter is the epoxy soft iron core. most likely resonance under 1 MHz
The core could be for example 3/4 x 3 inch round. The core described by Paul made from resin
cast with fine shot gun pellets.
Coil looks like a Bedini monopole coil and possibly enclosed pot of the
Same core for maximum magnetic absorbtion.

Waveform I would need picture. My first guess is a multiple sideband.
The wave gets lumpy when it's reflection and switching phase lag
Are superimposed or constructively combined. (Also called interference)
3 units the pot the switch matrix and the capacitor connected by RG58
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Building a generator of Tesla's time one parameter is frequency.
18.5 kHz might be a little slow concidering skin effect but 185 kHz is still a lot of turns.
Harmonic and also resonating with the capacitor dielectric.

Another parameter is the epoxy soft iron core. most likely resonance under 1 MHz
The core could be for example 3/4 x 3 inch round. The core described by Paul made from resin
cast with fine shot gun pellets.
Coil looks like a Bedini monopole coil and possibly enclosed pot of the
Same core for maximum magnetic absorbtion.

Waveform I would need picture. My first guess is a multiple sideband.
The wave gets lumpy when it's reflection and switching phase lag
being superimposed or constructively combined.
Thanks for that core description. I have heard of what you are saying before but I didn't know that that type of core and coil applied here.

I am in your debt.

The part about superimposing constructively combining waves that are reflected from switch lag is a bit unclear to me for now.

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Sorry but no, that's not it.

"The drawback of connecting a MOSFET in series is that it has to carry the main thyristor current and it also increases the total voltage drop by about 0.3 to 0.5V and its corresponding losses."

That voltage drop is still there and it is what increases losses of the switch. Paul's switching scheme has a zero voltage drop across it.

The voltage drop across an electronic "switch" is like this:

BJT : 0.7 V
MOSFET : 0.3 V
SCR : 0V

You want 0V across your switch when turned on.

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Guys,

It has been stated in this thread by Spokane1 that the transformers are for power isolation. I drew the same conclusion also. You can't read power with a grounded meter to a grounded circuit arbitrarily unless you isolate it. So no need to keep looking at those transformers as their function has already been revealed. The one you posted is for power isolation to read the resistive load voltage & currents.

In the video, I believe it was Paul who stated that the voltage and current are in phase. Not sure how that happened, I guess the L of the transformer was matched to the C to get that.

Does that tell you guys anything (that the V and I are in phase)?

If someone is looking for "the missing key", I still have seen no one post the MOSFET switching circuit! So what is it? That would actually be useful.

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Here is another shot of the transformer in the video. It has a non closed core if that means anything and since I am unable to go as far into the subject matter as the rest here I still noted this item.

I don't know why but I think it is important somehow.



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It has been stated in this thread by Spokane1 that the transformers are for power isolation. I drew the same conclusion also. You can't read power with a grounded meter to a grounded circuit arbitrarily unless you isolate it. So no need to keep looking at those transformers as their function has already been revealed. The one you posted is for power isolation to read the resistive load voltage & currents.

In the video, I believe it was Paul who stated that the voltage and current are in phase. Not sure how that happened, I guess the L of the transformer was matched to the C to get that.

Does that tell you guys anything (that the V and I are in phase)?

If someone is looking for "the missing key", I still have seen no one post the MOSFET switching circuit! So what is it? That would actually be useful.
Hey Silver thanks for helping me catch up (I am an under-classmen)

Okay let me get this straight, the core LOOKS to be a regular isolation transformer block designs in the stone-ages with the top half of the core lopped up.

That is what it LOOKS like.

Now on to the ETO stuff. It is my understanding(I may be wrong here) that the reason the Thyristor is used is because they are known to have a much lower switch resistance.

If this is incorrect please let me know.

I read that somewhere, but everyone knows how much of a pain in the arsenal they can be to turn off "THUS" the turn off Patent.

I haven't noticed anything related to circuit topology other than looking at the "SERIES/PARELLEL ETO diagrams MADE for these operations.

I think this would be the only place I could think of to start to get a basic idea of how caps are switched and how circuits look doing these functions.

I will go back and read what you said about this being wrong thinking and do some brushing up. I know I sound like a drowning man but this is as far as I have come.

ETO emitter turn off?

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Hi guys,

I still didn't have time to draw a schematic, but I explained earlier how I've put my circuit together, and how I'm getting the control signals. The switching works and I'm working on it but not seeing the results yet.

It would be great to know if they are using an open or closed core. No luck with a toroid, will try and open a standard transformer.
Frankly I thought more details would have been shared in the video.

the ETO arrangement seems to have very slow turn off time. Here's another option MCT:

MOS- Controlled Thyristor (MCT)

Another option is to switch an opposite polarity potential across the SCR for an instant with a fet, this ail block current and make it turn off.


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Just a suggestion. Stick with simple MOSFETS. See if you can get it to work first. KEEP IT SIMPLE.

Why complicate things. Jim's worked on MOSFETS only and it worked just fine. Just prove the concept.
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another method in making the devise is a modular conceptual approach to waveform.

It was suggested that understanding how to produce the Tesla wave would be far ahead.

The lumpy wave, appears to be a series of envelopes in one direction.
It is possible to look at the resistive load sensing transformer which is part of the instrumentation scope or part of the controller module or both by looking at the picture.

My intention is to evaluate information given about concept and begin to formulate a simple platform and not a replica. From it we can understand basic skills finding design constraints from experimental data such as from the epoxy soft iron core. Not that simple is best but rather kept simple until it is imperative it needs more complexity and approximately how much of what is needed. More work is needed in understanding reluctance role in critical timing.

The mosfets burned out alot (died as soldiers) this is the nature of the devise and what flows through it. It is problematic but not a major concept.

some concepts to concider:

There is elecrical energy that is carried by the current itself that is in addition to the energy in magnetic and electric fields.

The devise uses watts that go back and forth unlike the current and voltage that are usually 90 degrees out of phase that is not available for work.
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The K.I.S.S. formula works for me so I don't get all worn out before I get started Soft epoxy iron cores Okay well i don't know where you got that one but you sure make a lot of sense.

"More work is needed in understanding reluctance role in critical timing."

I wonder how to do that? Switched reluctance motors and circuits are plentiful

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The epoxy iron core, how it came about, why it is used and how to make it.
after he explains core he talks about why longer wire coils convert to radiant energy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...WvloZBgQ#t=950
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Old 07-22-2014, 03:49 AM
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The epoxy iron core, how it came about, why it is used and how to make it.
after he explains core he talks about why longer wire coils convert to radiant energy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...WvloZBgQ#t=950
I thought I remembered that he use an epoxy isolation transformer . Number 7 bird shot iron and epoxy. Thanks for shaking me , I went to sleep on that small detail, very very important. One small item like this and you strike out.

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Old 07-22-2014, 03:58 AM
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Hi All,
I bought today the lecture:

and posted my analysis results here:
COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,

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Old 07-22-2014, 06:18 AM
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Hi All,
I bought today the lecture:

and posted my analysis results here:
COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,

Regards, Stefan.
Thanks for the information about the setup being like a rotoverter or some kind of motor coils rotating mass using split second timing cap discharges.

@Harti

The answer to why they don't open source is that first someone else will try to steal it and the rest of us would take 20 years to find time to get it operating. Most folks don't have the time or the MONEY to build a decent 10 pole monopole. They will never build this one.

Newman was talked about as an explanation for the way they see energy transfer. Let me ask you something, did Newman get stonewalled in his youth when he had answers to energy production? Did Tesla?

You and I are not going to change the way the world is run but what we should do is merge our inventions with existing systems to improve efficiencies.

Once that is done it will be all downhill from there. Once the young minds wrap their heads around the new ways of power generation, the old stuff will be almost insulting to pursue.

But all of these great ideas will end up at the bottom of everyone closet as spare parts, without MONEY,BACKING and lots of it. Plus making friends on the inside of the energy cartel.

That is what he said in so many words. And that is what I say also.

Us little people can't fight city hall is what I say.

Thanks Stefan for the bigger picture of the setup. It is nothing like we thought. I thought they were doing solid state pulse discharge systems.

However when you think about all of the motor coil systems Tesla was working with it doesn't surprise me that their work includes rotation mass with adjoining coils.

The circuit he said was nothing, just plumbing. Whatever that means.

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Old 07-22-2014, 06:53 PM
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Hi Mike,
my comments were probably a bit too sloppy.

I have high respect to Babcock and Murray.
The Flyback Power Motor from Paul Babcock
was shown for the first time in this sales video.

He showed, how he can maintain the speed and thus
torque while reducing input amperage by about a half so reducing input power.
So this is different to a rotoverter....

But this was a totally other demo than the SERPS unit, that is a solid state
device.

Jason just found out that they are just using only 1 cap and just reverse
its polarity every quarter waveform. Then we get exactly the waveforms
Babcock and Murray have shown on their scopeshots.

The new simulations are posted at overunity.com

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Old 07-22-2014, 07:12 PM
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Hi Stefan

I am really lost now. Oh well I will get up to speed in a minute .

So Paul is showing more than one device? Both are demos of a 2000 Percent unit?

Oh well I better go back and read the whole thread.

Let me get this straight, the SERPS ya know the switched energy resonance device is the discussion about the series/parallel cap switching and the motor demo done at the conference has nothing to do with the SERPS thread?

Is this correct? So we need another thread for the other unrelated subject matter? Or does this other demo relate to the SERPS 2000 percent?

Transformer cores with bird shot using soft carbon free metal only apply to the motor stuff not the SERPS?

Paul's transformers and motor cores are all the same? Or No?

Please specify switch material you are reviewing on any given day.

I know this is a complicated website and I expect difficulties to arise/confusion and what not.

You Stefan are far more advanced than I am.

Silver says "NO FANCY CORES"

"Mikrovolt" shows the core designing video for the motor stuff and everyone else is talking about Pauls inventions.

Okay I think we are all on the same page now.

I guess everyone is trying to understand Paul's work prier to the SERPS so they can understand the SERPS device?

That must be what is going on here.

I will assume this is the case because Paul stated that the SERPS is a merger of his work with the other technologies, so it makes sense to find all of the details that Paul talked about before the SERPS came.

The question now is "Does the SERPS use Pauls core designs"?????

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Old 07-22-2014, 07:27 PM
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Hi Mike,
well yes, in the sales video
http://bit.ly/serpslecture
and enclosed PDF files
they have shown many devices that they have worked on !
Not just the new SERPS unit.

Murray had woked on many rotary devices, like his dynaflux
machines and other generators.

And Backcock has invented this special toroidal motor
that is using power from Flyback pulses and is probably an overunity motor,
but he made only a short video demo of it.

But the real interesting device is the SPERPS unit, as it is solid state and
by end of this year you can heat your flat with it for instance with constant 1 KWatts and still deliver 300 Watts back to the utility, so your meter will
turn backwards and it is not stolen power !
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Old 07-22-2014, 07:52 PM
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The question now is "Does the SERPS use Pauls core designs"?????

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Dear Mike,

As far as I can tell the demonstration SERPS device seen at the convention did not employ any of Paul's core designs. He appeared to be using a standard power transformer with sheet iron laminations. However, his toroid motor did use the cast able approach. He pointed out that some of the iron shot was not well sealed in the epoxy matrix and made noise during operation.

Paul was kind enough to give me a sample of the #7 soft iron shot, the source from where he got it, and several construction details.

I'm sure Paul would be flattered if anybody would be interested in this information. I would be glad to wright a short paragraph if anyone is planning to build one of these.

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Old 07-22-2014, 10:54 PM
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Hi Aaron and all,

Jim Murray talked about how his SERPS technology doesn't require any knowledge of advanced electrical science, but uses all of the known electrical engineering calculations to determine component values, etc. Does anyone know if he ever successfully simulated his SERPS design in a SPICE simulator? My assumption is that since he mentions a mass component of the current that has not been accounted for, this may suggest a no, but just thought I would ask anyway.

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Old 07-23-2014, 12:57 AM
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if anybody would be interested

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Yes



I am very interested in experimenting with non crystal no carbon scrambled iron core using a long winding because there is something going on there.
The hysteresis and magnetic absorbing properties is a significant benefit to motors using radiant energy. Since radiant energy related to SERPS goes into esoteric discussion it follows that we are far ahead to understand the Tesla side of the technology in simple repeatable steps, leave the SERPS patented assets alone as it is for large commercial licensed development.
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Paul was kind enough to give me a sample of the #7 soft iron shot, the source from where he got it, and several construction details.

I'm sure Paul would be flattered if anybody would be interested in this information. I would be glad to wright a short paragraph if anyone is planning to build one of these.
Mark,

Paul does discuss the bird shot core in this interview from last year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXMWvloZBgQ
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