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Old 02-15-2008, 04:01 PM
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About Han Coler electricity generator

Hello,

I found out today about an electricity generator done around 1930 by a Coler.

In this page http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3752/hcoler1.htm they talk about 2 of his inventions.

I would like your comments on the second one which they say can produce 6kwatts.

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Old 02-15-2008, 05:07 PM
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Hello,

I found out today about an electricity generator done around 1930 by a Coler.

In this page http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3752/hcoler1.htm they talk about 2 of his inventions.

I would like your comments on the second one which they say can produce 6kwatts.

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Bugler,

Here is a link to a slightly more complete file on Coler's work.

Hans Coler's "Magnetstromapparat" & "Stromzeuger" (British Intelligence Objectives SubCommittee Report #1043

Notice in the Appendix 5 at the end of the file that an energy gain anomaly is documented in a circuit with an inductive collapse produced by a mechanical contacter. This is the same theme we have been looking at in so many of these other threads!

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Old 02-15-2008, 07:54 PM
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Interesting History

Some of the Nazi saucers were supposed to have been powered by Hans Coler's generators...this was after they moved away from BMW powered engines based on pure vertical thrust.
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Old 07-19-2010, 07:33 PM
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Stromzeuger Query

Has anyone attempted to replicate the Stromzeuger? I am very interested in this device. I have been studying all I could find about it but there seems to be missing details. I feel deep in my heart that this invention of Hans Coler has real merit. I have all the Rex Research data and so I am looking for any data I can find from other sources to shore up what details might be missing from the Rex data. I have found some information in German and I'll be getting it translated soon for further study. With this machine, we only have limited diagrams accompanying the intel.
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Old 07-19-2010, 09:56 PM
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Hello,

I found out today about an electricity generator done around 1930 by a Coler.

In this page http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3752/hcoler1.htm they talk about 2 of his inventions.

I would like your comments on the second one which they say can produce 6kwatts.

Thanks.
Hi Bugler,

Do you have the information you referred to in the geocities link? The link is now down and I'd like to have a look at that info if you still have it available. Thanks!!

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Old 07-19-2010, 11:20 PM
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Another Good Hans Coler Site

The invention of Hans Coler
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Old 07-20-2010, 02:28 PM
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Stromzeuger Replication Query

Hi Fellow Experimenters,

I would like to build the Stromzeuger Generator and therefore I would like to find out if there are any of you interested in building this device also, so that we can build it as a joint venture? I think several heads would work better than one on this device, since some of the instructions are not that easy to follow. Anyway, if you are interested, let me know and we will figure a way to set up our own site so we can communicate more freely about the setup. I have an acquaintance in UK who I know I can get to help also and he is an electrical engineer.

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Old 07-21-2010, 08:16 AM
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Has anyone attempted to replicate the Stromzeuger?
It appears the answer is yes:
Coler Converter
http://www.hcrs.at/BILDER/COLER10.JPG

The Geocities links can still be accessed trough archive.org:

Hans Coler invention part 1/3
Hans Coler invention part 2/3
Hans Coler invention part 3/3
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Old 07-21-2010, 07:36 PM
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Lamare,

Thanks for your response to my post and also for the working links to the old geocities files. The replication pic you attached was for the other invention of Hans Coler, (i.e.: The Magnetstromapparat). I do appreciate your taking the time to respond to my response though. I know that Professor Schumann and a few other German experimenters from the WWII era did replicate the Stromerzeuger apparatus, but no pictures have surfaced of those replications. The information provided by Hans Coler and Professor Schumann on the Stromerzeuger is very hard to follow precisely. When you try to break all the individual aspects down for replication it becomes very hard to really know how they actually did certain things. It's like a big secret or something. Operation Paper Clip probably made sure that all that type of information was buried properly.

From what I have read concerning Nazi saucer technologies, it does appear that a device similar in concept to the magnetstromapparat was used for powering some of the later saucers. It was better known as a Coler Tachyon Converter, and I can't find any useful information on the device at all. All I find are just references to the Tachyon Converter but no descriptions of its operational scenario.

Anyway, thanks again for your response!!

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Old 07-22-2010, 11:13 AM
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Magnetstromapparat Saucer Info

I've been reading whatever I could find about Hans Coler devices and the 3rd Reich. The Germans didn't waste a lot of time with things that didn't work, and it seems that they utilized a version of the Coler Magnetstromapparat in combination with multiple large van der graf generators and a magnetic motor in their later saucers. The Tachyon Converter was the designation given to the upgraded Magnetstromapparat utilized in the saucers. I'm trying to locate specific information on the later Tachyon Converter, but so far have been unable to do so. I feel that like the Stromzeuger they must have also utilized a battery input, since the saucers with the Tachyon Converter had a max of 55 hours in the air at their disposal. This meant that power of some sort was required to be input into the device.

Anyway, if any of you know something more about these devices, please share what you know with us. Thanks!!
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:23 AM
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Just ran into the following info about a.o. the Coler device:

http://www.rafoeg.de/20,Dokumentenar...20SPECTRUM.pdf

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Hans Coler, in 1933 in Germany, constructed a circuit using magnets, coils, and capacitors, with a resonance which would tap an unknown source to light lamps.
He stated that his research into the nature of magnetism had lead him to conclude that ferro-magnetism was an oscillating phenomena with a frequency of about 180 KHz. This oscillation took place in the magnetic circuit of the apparatus and induced in the electrical circuit oscillations, the frequency of which of course depends on the values of the components used. These two phenomena interact and gradually build up a tension.
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:23 PM
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Here's another quote from the last link of lamare's

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A final quote from Nikola Tesla: “Throughout space there is energy, it is a mere
question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very
wheelwork of Nature….The knowledge that there is throbbing through the Earth,
energy available everywhere, would exert a strong stimulus on students,
mechanics and inventors of all countries. This would be productive of infinite
good. Conditions such as never existed before would be brought about. It would
enable Man to dispense with the necessity of mining, pumping, transporting and
burning of fuels, and so do away with innumerable causes of waste! New
frontiers might be opened, unlimited power for all the world, inexpensive power
for the farmer to light and heat his home, to drive his tractor, to harvest his grain,
to increase his food output, electric power for millions of homes, so economical
that every appliance could be operated electrically. The real beginning of a
‘Golden Age of Civilization.”
Hehe Thanks Nikola I hear ya.
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Old 11-17-2010, 02:02 PM
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German Replication of Coler Stromerzeuger Device

This gentleman, Alf, is an electrical engineer and a mechanical engineer. This is the device he built. I'm trying to get more information on the device from him.

Coler-Energie-Konverter – expliki
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Research and some successful replications of scaled down Leedskalnin PMH and scaled down Daniel McFarland Cook Electromagnetic Battery have lead me to read all I can about German Naval Captain Hans Coler and "his" two devices, the Magnetstromapparat (Magnetic Current Apparatus) and the Stromzeuger (Power Generator.) A version of the latter reputed to have powered Coler's home with 6 KW out from 3 small dry batteries input. This was said to have been destroyed by an Allied bomb along with his home.

I plan to write up my experiences with replications of Leedskalnin's PMH and DMC coils in another thread, but wanted to pass along my latest (if dated) find on Coler:
https://www.chavascience.com/pdf/the...Hans-Coler.pdf
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Old 09-12-2019, 02:56 PM
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video of back emf amplification

Gotoluc's 1st video; He increases output by sparking back EMF through a Neo magnet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RQ6tIgoiJ8
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Old 09-12-2019, 06:03 PM
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Overunity?

Here I'm lighting 11 LEDs with 2 AA batteries in series with BEMF I'm passing through a large Neo sphere magnet with a loose wire oscillation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BDA..._cwaA&index=20
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the interruption is a random spark. loosen a connection for a sympathetic oscillation.
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Negative resistance

Amplification of backspike power through a magnet must have an inverse corollary to Ohm's law. Coler is credited with elongating the magnet into a sliver wire.

Length of the magnet conductor would have an inverse Ohm negative resistance ratio for BEMF!

Quote from Gotoluc:

"Another thing is electricity travels in a circular motion or polarity around the wire, so if the wire sticks to the magnet then you need to try it on the other side".


a voltage from outside the circuit when the current is interrupted!
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Old 09-14-2019, 03:32 PM
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Would a second Neo magnet sphere elongate the high voltage spark further? A negative Ohm would result if so!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_3OkDvmp_Y&t=2s
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Old 09-14-2019, 03:40 PM
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3x magnets:

Gotoluc triples his magnets and generates additional power: Proof of the "Negative Ohm":

"By pulsing the coil I can raise the voltage up to about 80 volts which is nothing new, however in the next experiment I add 3 pcs. of 1/4" cylinder neo magnets and pulse the top of the magnets and the voltage shoots up in less then a 1/4 of the time and can now raise up to 180v".
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Old 09-14-2019, 09:04 PM
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Ohm's law states that the current through a conductor between two points is directly proportional to the voltage across the two points. The distance between two points equals length!

Not the strength of the magnet field, but the distance between the beginning and end of the magnet conductor!
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Old 09-15-2019, 06:51 AM
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Negative Ohms

For any given magnet strength material, the negative resistance is directly proportional to the distance between the electrodes.
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Old 09-15-2019, 02:05 PM
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Here is the streamlined converter. This long magnet conductor can shuttle an amified back spike.
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Reed switch.

here's a very simple flyback generator that improves coler's loose connection approach by enclosing the spark in a vacuum tube;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U5lXqkoMzE

Running the reverse current from the switch interruption through a line of axial magnets will amplify the power.


The current is polarized and accelerates toward the attracting pole inside the field of the magnet conductor. The output is a function of the acceleration time and distance of the current inside the nested power field of the magnet conductor. The current will increase velocity toward infinite voltage with sufficient distance.

There appears to be a "Radiant attribute" of the flyback current that interfaces with the magnet field that does not accompany ordinary current.
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linear track

Each 1" axial magnet can be compared to a segment in a linear magnet track. The magnets are accelerating an electrical charge rather then an object. The description of "Thin (silver) magnet rods" connected to Hans Coler's generator is accompanied by a schematics of what appears to be an interlocking maze of magnet rods packed inside a box. Perhaps hundreds of axial magnets can be arranged in series and packaged neatly this way.
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cook battery

Wrapping the coil around the magnet cylinders would copy Daniel Mcfarland Cook's patent.

I believe the Cook battery may have used the magnet core as a hi voltage secondary for the interrupted backspike.
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Gadgetmall

Gadgetmall went over unity with a piggyback output coil that collected the BEMF from a primary pulse coil that shared the same ferrite core.

The magnetized core amplified the backspike.

A neutralization pulse on a GAP motor coil would recover amplified backspike if the magnet was extended and wrapped with a piggyback backspike recovery coil like Gadgetmall, that worked wirelessly through induction.
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I liked the look of the output from the automotive coil. I wonder it it would be worth trying to step it down with an identical auto coil?

Another fun one that might be worth trying is, taking a length of insulated Nickel wire and winding it into quite a chunky air coil, then using said air coil as a magnetizable toroid core for a toroid transformer or inducter for a buck booster. The Nickel and the primary of the transformer, or inducter, all depending, could be connected in series. Then start pulsing by whatever means and see what comes out.

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After thinking about it for a while, in hindsight the idea concerning the Nickel has a few problems with it. A few too many to mention them all. But the idea of sending current or BEMF'S down a magnetized conducter sounds very interesting.

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