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Hello and Merry Christmas to All,
Does anyone agree to restart this thread?

Thanks to Aaron's Newman-movie about Joseph Newman thread and the old YouTube links posted by Duncan, I remember some success with this build. But sadly the thread got sidelined and killed by all the negative posting by members for reasons I don't care to know about.

Why can't threads be educational, helpful, same topic, positive, and no posting unless you stay the course.

What do you all think?
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But sadly the thread got sidelined and killed by all the negative posting by members for reasons I don't care to know about.

Why can't threads be educational, helpful, same topic, positive, and no posting unless you stay the course.

What do you all think?
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I think Newman has been used as a figurehead "IDOL" frontman big
name that everyone has grown to know after 50 years. Since everyone
knows who Newman is like John Bedini many use their names as a
drawing card to gain attention, I find nothing wrong with that.

But let's be honest about the negative aspects of Joe's life and stop
blaming the people such as my self who re-post the facts of his life
that are ugly. HO HO HO

If you are an honest person then you don't blame the messenger for
the negatives of the person. If telling the truth about Joe has killed his
50 year old life long mission then i would say that shows something
about the integrity of the mans delivery.

That attitude is a victim, poor pitiful me process that is an evasive
maneuver that shows a manipulative behavior I find sickening. Truth
is most important to me.

If posting the details of Joe's message from God to have a sexual
relation with his daughter and wife at the same time has destroyed
his working model that after 50 years no one has quite replicated, then
so be it.

Some will be drawn by the fact that Joe had long hair or whatever and
will become involved with free energy and this is good, but has nothing
really to do with his inventions.

It's like saying you don't mind allowing a MUSLIM to rape your daughters
as long as you learn a new magic trick electrically. I never trusted him.
As a Preacher I can not honestly say Joe is trustworthy knowing what
the the fact show of his life.

When I post details of Joe's own statements and am blamed as the one
who must be the reason his stuff don't work, I get real. You have just
signed your name to that.

Newman desired to enter the body of his own daughter (in Grade school)
and says GOD told him to do this, makes him a pervert and a dog.
Yup Ho Ho HO, you want me to trust him?

You trust him if you want. Forgiving him is not the issue so don't start
that with me. Joe never called it a sin. Joe didn't say he was sorry and
still felt he should have been given the girl many years later.

Now many folks liked Joe and he has gotten the people to believe
in free energy even tho no one has a working model. I am glad others
are trying to learn the free energy but let's not throw the baby under
the bus either.

That is not to say that Joe did not discover something, all it means
is that I personally do not trust that he has told us the truth about
how to get it to work. I think the same way about EV Gray so Joe
by no means is alone.

Now maybe everyone will stop thinking Joe gave the right answers and
we will find the missing link.

A very very long time ago we were promised this lie.

Joe stated before a live audience on Johnny Carson that a 3-400lb
unit would power a home for free from that point on. Never did that
appear over a 40 year time frame. I rest my case.

Never a personal unit either in a 40 year period. Joe was a delusional
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Sorry I know nothing about this inventor other than the invention.

I guess that's a "NO".

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Sorry I know nothing about this inventor other than the invention.

I guess that's a "NO".

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The answer is whatever you want it to be. I think we should look
at all of the experimental facts, including Newman's. However many
inventors have no intention of giving the right answer and block the
proper knowledge needed thru patents.

The court documents are also facts. Newman scams are listed around
the web so let's try to find the answers that work.

This document is based on the court records.




JOSEPH NEWMAN! CHILD ABUSER AND FATHER OF SOMER'S KILLER
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Monday, March 29, 2010

Wacky Inventor's Connection To A Notorious Local Murder
By
Jeff Hess
@ March 4, 2010 8:22 PM Permalink | Comments (1)
A wacky inventor and a person of interest in a local murder share a
bizarre connection.
Doomsday prophet and debunked inventor Joseph Newman was once
Jarred Harrell's step-father.

When Harrell was a child, Newman married both his mother and 8-year
old sister. Newman claimed that God told him to do it.

That didn't hold and the kids went to live with their father. Harrell
moved back with his mom when the two divorced five years later.

Newman made predictions that the world will end in 2012.

He made the biggest splash when he claimed to have invented a
perpetual motion machine.
He claimed the machine could do incredible things, and that landed
him a spot on the Tonight Show. However scientific testing destroyed
those claims.

Newman tried for years to get a machine patented, but was denied
on several occasions before giving up that quest. He still maintains a
website touting the machine.

Harrell is facing child porn and molestation charges. He is also a person
of interest in the Somer Thompson murder. [UPDATE: Harrell has since
been arrested for Somer's murder.]


So God told him to marry Jarred Harrell's then eight-year
old sister. I must be Anne Frank, then, because His Son preached to
the Galileans about 2,000 years ago to "suffer the little children". He
later told child abusers and molestors to go drown in the sea, because
the wrath of God is superfierce when you harm the children.

People like Newman, Phillip Garrido, Brian David Mitchell, and all other
phoneys hide behind God to justify molesting children. If they truly
believed in God, they would have attended Church and believed in
and done His Word.

It is not the Province of God to allow children to be molested.
Instead of hiding behind God, they should seek help or turn
themselves in.

As to Harrell's abuse, did anybody help him get over the trauma when
he was abused? NO! They let him fester until he was involved in
child pornography. Instead of immediately arresting Harrell, Cook
County Sheriff's in Florida sat on the investigation until Somer
Thompson was kidnapped, raped, and murdered, and then found in
a Georgia landfill.

Before Harrell was involved in kiddie porn, authorities should have
HELPED Harrell when he was a victim! Now, you have a grieving mother
and family, because nobody turned and helped the abused person
when he was only a victim.

Again,

STOP BEGATTING ABUSE!
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Life in the fast lane of the rich and famous.

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Shortly before the Harrells separated, she was working as a secretary
for Joe Newman, a married, eccentric local inventor. The two became
lovers with the knowledge of Newman’s wife, while Annis still had
custody of the children, the judge’s order states.



In February 1989, Newman publicized what the order states
is a 17-page “news release” in which he announced he was married not
only to his wife, but to Annis Harrell and her 8-year-old daughter. The
order does not indicate why the release was issued or how, but the
order says Newman described himself as a prophet of God and that his
wife believed him, among other things.

Alerted to the public statements, state child welfare officials sought to
take the children from their mother, who officially married
Newman in September 1989. During a court hearing in the custody
matter,
Newman said his marriage to the daughter was spiritual, not sexual,
and that he would debate with God whether to consummate the
marriage, the order states.

The judge said he didn’t doubt the depth of the convictions of either
Newman or Annis, but he ordered the children removed from their
home. The girl went immediately with her father. Jarred, then 3,
stayed with Annis’ mother until also moving in with Harrell.
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If you really want to understand Joe Newman's device, you might want to start with the paper he wrote explaining his theories and see if any of them make sense, and then read his explanation (in the same paper) of how his device worked. That will probably give you more information than watching it run or watching old YouTube videos of those who tried to replicate it and failed.

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If you really want to understand Joe Newman's device, you might want to start with the paper he wrote explaining his theories and see if any of them make sense, and then read his explanation (in the same paper) of how his device worked. That will probably give you more information than watching it run or watching old YouTube videos of those who tried to replicate it and failed.
Thanks Turion,
I built a small version of course. A PVC union 4" across with neodymium magnets and i was surprised the spikes that it produced. It ran for hours on a single "non-rechargeable" 9 volt battery.

The best and only way to know what is worth my precious time, resources, and study is to replicate and experience an idea.
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If you really want to understand Joe Newman's
device, you might want to start with the paper he wrote explaining his
theories and see if any of them make sense, and then read his explanation (in the same paper) of how his device worked.

Yeah, I see he uses the commutator so his might work, even tho he never
shared the entire idea. Nobody thinks they are going to die, so they put
off sharing the complete detail till when they are in their 90's.

Glad to see you kicking around. I have been drinking MILK KEFIR and this
is a bunch of work to increase my health standing.

Did you read that paper? He was denied patents repeatedly.

The window motor looks like the same thing to me, just add a sparking
commutator. Paul B. says he was inspired to experiment by Joe.

Just because Joe was a huckster doesn't mean he couldn't have
taken other peoples ideas to write books on and make money selling
kits. That is what I think. He was a flim flam smooth talker and many
investors gave Joe millions rather than paying it all out in taxes.

That is the way it is when you hang out with rich engineers 40 years
convincing them to donate.

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Don't dismiss a sparking commutator as a means to gaining energy. I have charged a battery with nothing BUT a sparking commutator. When you combine a coil discharge with a sparking commutator, the results CAN be very, very productive. Add to that the fact that the coils Newman used were HUGE, and you might well have something. He never said HOW MUCH over unity it was, and a Bedini is over unity when constructed properly and run correctly.
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Don't dismiss a sparking commutator as a means
to gaining energy. I have charged a battery with nothing BUT
a sparking commutator. When you combine a coil discharge with a
sparking commutator, the results CAN be very, very productive. Add to
that the fact that the coils Newman used were HUGE, and you might well
have something. He never said HOW MUCH over unity it was, and a
Bedini is over unity when constructed properly and run correctly.
Hey Turion man. I hope the knee is treating you right. I was to have surgery
for my knee when I was younger and never did but mine fixed itself, lucky
me huh?


No I didn't mean to sound like I was dissing the sparking connections,
after all doctor Frankenstein swore by them or he never would have
gotten the right effects.

All joking aside (we always said if you can't take a joke,
"WHAT GOOD ARE YOU"?) Tesla comes to mind when we look at the
principle that almost
all motor builders are following. When anyone first hears the name TESLA
they will hear about his spark gap coil combination as a static impulse generator.

So as far as I can tell you are correct in your assertions about sparking
commutators and coils. This have been witnessed first hand by some of
our key players like Mathew Jones or John Bedini. I am sure there are
many more names who have experimented with this effect where an
arcing connection gave the best results.

As we have learned the arcing of carbon brushes to copper/brass
commutator makes for an abrupt connect and disconnect seldom
achieved easily by the amateur.

The added length of wire would also increase the voltage making it
almost imperative to have a huge set of arcing mechanical contacts
that could stand up to the high level of stress normal electronic
components could never survive.
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seems ok to me - but its easy to be wrong !

This is probably the very easiest of all machines to explain the working principles of and a horrible bloody thing to build . thousands of winds of pretty thin wire are required (and winding gives me hives and a twitch) this looks very much like a DC circuit, you see the battery and assume its so - like Davids 3BGS of course - it isn't . But just for the moment and so you grasp just what is happening consider this very well known equation for an AC RMS circuit power = volts x amps x power factor
Newman's circuit trashes the power factor. of course its not true RMS but switched DC or if you like a square wave or even more accurately an impulse wave. when the power factor = 0 the circuit in electronic language is called 'resonant' and because of the way its wired we can say more accurately 'series resonant' any pure resistive load the battery sees will consume 'real power' hence Newman uses miles of pretty thin wire. having considered power in an AC RMS circuit it begs the question can an impulse or square wave be resonant ? how about we ask member gotoluc to show us. please grasp what the man says as he switches his signal generator from a sine wave to a square wave - It takes the square wave (and by extension every thing under the curve) and converts it to a resonance curve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQhvh3wd2I0&t=204s
so IMHO the answer is yes with with the correct tuning to a resonant condition and miles of bloody wire this machine works as advertized. here's a few things to keep in mind . MMF = N x I (number of turns x current) and turns add resistance,and inductance whilst costing nothing.
energy = power x time (if no power is consumed because of zero power factor no energy is consumed)
those winding are counter wound but of course all the battery sees is one inductance , an inductance that can be also be connected with a capacitor if necessary to give a series resonant circuit. whilst I am quite convinced this machine works as advertised I know of no calculations for complex waves into a resonant circuit even though I can see ways it might be tuned . It could also not be looped in the same time domain as any altering of the input impedance must alter the resonant circuit .
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a horrible bloody thing to build . thousands
of winds of pretty thin wire are required (and winding gives me hives
and a twitch) - like Davids 3BGS of course - it isn't .
kind regards D
Hey Duncan

very good way of looking at it I would say. It makes me think of it
another way. Take a 55 gal drum 3/4 full of water and set it on a
fulcrum point at the bottom. The large body of water represents the
huge mass of wire.

Next tilt the barrel 1" to the right and stop waiting for the momentum
of the solution to slow down and just before it stops completely start
your 1" push in the reverse direction.

Now what do we have? We have a great deal of work being performed
by moving a lot of water for hopefully the least amount of 1" travel in
a push.

Now what? Well that is a good question if you ask me because whether
it is a large mass or small, a smaller push or slightly bigger the amount
of input to output seems only speculative.

Sorry D didn't mean to throw water.
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I can see ways it might be tuned . It could also not be looped in the same
time domain as any altering of the input impedance must alter the resonant circuit
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It takes the square wave (and by extension every thing under the curve) and converts it to a resonance curve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQhvh3wd2I0&t=204s
So does just about every transformer style inverter. We can look at
a scope and find just about anything we want to. In a modified
set of stepped square pulses we can go to sine wave with a very very
short length of wire wound around a transformer core.

Seeing coils transform square pulses into AC is a very old practice.

Anyone who understands the radio wave circuits of the past knows that
waves are received in AC form and then manipulated by DC pulsating
circuits to amplify. This can alter the smooth AC signal to the point
that a simple filter is used to weed out the pure AC.

Nothing gained and nothing lost, just separated and or transformed.
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Hi BroMikey - I didn't know your real job was a preacher good work bro ! Its very difficult to discover just where the evil lies as you research what has been forced to become what is best described now as 'the free energy circus'
The legal system and social structure of countries are in the hands of elite. was Dennis lee imprisoned with no charge for over a year ? was all his equipment confiscated ? was Paul Pantone quickly maneuvered into a Utah mental hospital with no due process ? Was John Hutchinsons home raided and John arrested his equipment stolen and destroyed? was JB beaten up threatened and forced to tow the line? and just what did WE and I include myself in the big WE do about it ?
Just how many have been reported in newspapers for fraud or trickery ? I loose count it was certainly tried with Stan Meyer but of course the paint wouldn't stick and no investor would take the stand.
I guess as far as researchers into energy are concerned take anything in the rags with a pinch of snuff !
Did Newman Molest a youngster ? who really knows only Newman his conscious and his god (if he has one). I am not a particularly religious person myself BroMikey although the more I study this subject particularly at the margins of maths and science the more I become aware of a powerful organized hand controlling the universe and a planet that is designed to be benevolent to us.
Just my opinion of course but your speculation regarding the barrel isn't how I see things at all you are trying to apply standard science to the extraordinary. strangely a lot of the answer is shown in the second video you have just posted where 'lids' motor is spinning in proximity its noted else where that a magnet over twelve feet away from big Eureka would spin wildly I find some of the answer is in Aarons book 'The quantum key' it is also to a certain extent supported by EPD several times in his statements in this blistering video, of which JB once commented dryly "an unfortunate event"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHsEzPDVtog
particularly 'The first spacemen couldn't see anything at all in free space' and 'there are no transverse waves in free space' and more so in the case of the Newman machine the consideration of the operation of a transformer. If it doesn't and can't operate as we are taught then a viable alternative can only be external energy entering the transformer. The axle spinning with no coils whatsoever involved just about puts the tin hat on it !
The science you consider with your barrel example BroMikey uses only the accepted science of the transverse wave . The only science and maths taught since the absolute control of education,literature and media around the world circa 1912. This documentary tells of how oil,energy,greed and evil in belt and braces did that and why, (and yes religion too I'm afraid)
https://youtu.be/ySnk-f2ThpE
Alas if you think 'free energy' will resolve the situation open your peeps - the control levers are already being quickly moved.
In effect and in simple terms there are two magnetic (if you like) waves with us on our planet the transverse and the longitudinal we only know how to engineer the transverse wave - we have been intensionally blinded in one eye with salt being thrown at the other !
I shouldn't really post this connection I guess as David Waggoner and friends are trying to make a crust, my apologies to David, I'm afraid David Its the nature of the interweb that your works legion. David himself admits his 'fueless engine' is in turn plagiarized from Witts.(which also spawned Qeg) Newman, Bedini , Adams , and a host of other machines . Its an American disease to copy and claim,
Might I kindly suggest you dear reader contrive to download and save a copy of the fueless engine no 362, go to this post Vidbid has kindly provided on this thread and then to the creative science index download the fueless engine -362
http://www.energeticforum.com/295857-post17.html
your next task to study the operation principle and relate it directly to Newman , Bedini, Adams - make the connection just as David Waggoner has done . - and yes Mr Bowling sir specifically the 3BGS too!
the answers absolutely in plain sight now, and - In the kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is king Desiderius Erasmus
kindest regards Duncan
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So does just about every transformer style inverter. We can look at
a scope and find just about anything we want to. In a modified
set of stepped square pulses we can go to sine wave with a very very
short length of wire wound around a transformer core.

Seeing coils transform square pulses into AC is a very old practice.

Anyone who understands the radio wave circuits of the past knows that
waves are received in AC form and then manipulated by DC pulsating
circuits to amplify. This can alter the smooth AC signal to the point
that a simple filter is used to weed out the pure AC.

Nothing gained and nothing lost, just separated and or transformed.
In a way of course you are right Bro but don't be blinded by your conviction . It is reactive current we consider (Bemf-ish) . reseach the effect of 'triplens' and specifically to fast switched power supplies (like Bedini's SSG for instance) you'll find the increase in SMPS has led to a huge increace in neutral conductor size. This reactive current is cumlative and circulating and like the rest of EE taught in order to confuse also it is not Radio we consider but wireless if you don't know the difference re EPD video - again make the connection if your a 'radio' guy find the SWR that Eric decribes as 'your desire' compare it to what you might TX on and consider the implications of the reverse action compared to Radio.
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Nothing but the truth

Let me start by saying I have always noted your ability to express FE
far surpass mine, I understand you but writing it so fluently escapes me.

Yes thank you for you kind notation concerning the ministry, I started
summer classes at age 15 years in Birmingham Michigan.

All of the names you mentioned were people who were attacked unfairly.
Newman was not a victim even tho he claimed he was. Many never get
that patent and the one's who do never make the big money from them.

We all have learned that playing the hero gets an inventor either paid
off or dead. What should we do? That is easy Heins and Alek are doing
it right under our noses.

Produce an add-on innovation that works to enhance existing technology
this way our entire structure do not collapse over night. Let's play fair
and honor our inventors who have laid the foundation by adding to
their work so as to morph into the new day. Crushing the entire current
domain for instance is what Stan M. tried and that got him dead.

Yes i think wisdom is better than zeal and purity than superiority. Being
pure is all a relative statement today to a generation who does not
know the rule maker. Joe was a sick man, but so are all men without
hope if they follow only the survival of the fittest doctrine.

Did you see that George Michael just died? He did not follow the rules
as laid out by the maker of all things and he got those nasty unclean
spirits that cost him an early life.

it is so easy to figure out which side a person on , they are living a self
seeking script or one that is always conscience of the possibility that
their will harm others.

I saw Dennis deliver his you video and at one time he was not very
careful with his words. He didn't have to do the superman act. Listen to
Peter L. he told us all years ago what to do.
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continuing

You hang a few panels, maybe a windmill or water wheel and right next
to the battery bank is another set of large boxes called the accumulator
or the amplifier which really do all the work.

In my mind this applies to several in the list of people you mentioned, Joe
had big troubles, the first being he was born a Mormon and many men
who are at the engineering money levels are drawn into the Masonic
Lodge. It is well known that incestuous behavior has been part of the
Mormon community for decades.

In Detroit I knew some of the families and grown up watching first hand
where a father made children with all of his daughters. This was normal
to them and the children were deformed. Just another example in the
extreme where men do not pay attention to the laws given by the LAW
GIVER.

I know you are right in your assessments by the perfect selection of
terms when describing the multi-faceted nature of energy. It is like
a fabric woven together so when we are able to disturb that locked
together structure all of creation comes to the rescue to repair it.
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Let's assume for just a moment that Newman actually HAD something that produced more out than what you put in. How did he get it?

Probably in much the same way as John B did with the SG...the collapse of a coil to produce a high voltage discharge that can be used to charge up a bank of batteries. Not some massive generator that produces a Niagra Falls cascade of energy, but a simple system that will keep your batteries charged up, and in fact, charges them much faster than is commonly thought possible.

This is high voltage without current so many people will look at it as not worth much. But there are two devices we have to store that voltage that quite conveniently accept high voltage with little current in one side and supply lower voltage WITH current on the other side. One is a capacitor and the other is a battery.

How do you get that discharge at little or no cost? You need a switching device that will supply low voltage to a coil and then turn it off SHARPLY to give you the coil collapse. If that switching device ALSO includes a spark gap, so much the better because something interesting happens when you introduce that spark PLUS a coil collapse. I've built such devices using an Arduino and mechanical devices which included a spark gap and the spark gap out performs the solid state for energy production per pulse, but the Arduino is able to pulse more times per minute than a mechanical, so is more efficient.

To use an Arduino, simply use the "Blink" program to fire a transistor allowing 12 volts to charge the coil, and then capture the energy of the collapse in a bridge rectifier across the coil. But remember. This is a different KIND of energy and you must condition your batteries to receive it (which means draining them BEFORE you charge them this way and running them through many charge cycles) and then they cannot be charged conventionally. Why do this? Well, according to John B they charge faster, they hold the charge better and they increase in capacity.

If you are doing it mechanically you need some kind of rotary switching device. A hall switch, optical switch, reed switch, or trigger coil like John used. Bob French and I have developed our own mechanical switch which utilizes a spark gap and is pretty efficient up to a certain rpm.


Oh, by the way, when I do this, the coil I pulse is between the positives on the three battery system so that almost all of the energy pulsed into the coil is collected in the charge battery.

Oh, by the way, the coils I use to do this are actually motor coils so I also get mechanical energy out of this since it causes a motor to turn.

Oh, by the way, this motor is also running a Lenz free generator which produces power as the motor rotates.

So you use a pulse to create more energy than you started with. You get MOST of the pulsed energy BACK in the charge batteries, and you get GENERATED energy from every pulse. You have to keep the two systems separate is all, because the energy pulled out of the bridge rectifier across the coil is always going to be a different KIND of energy. Once in the battery it can be used like conventional energy, but cannot be put into a 3 battery system.
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continuing

You hang a few panels, maybe a windmill or water wheel and right next
to the battery bank is another set of large boxes called the accumulator
or the amplifier which really do all the work.

In my mind this applies to several in the list of people you mentioned, Joe
had big troubles, the first being he was born a Mormon and many men
who are at the engineering money levels are drawn into the Masonic
Lodge. It is well known that incestuous behavior has been part of the
Mormon community for decades.

In Detroit I knew some of the families and grown up watching first hand
where a father made children with all of his daughters. This was normal
to them and the children were deformed. Just another example in the
extreme where men do not pay attention to the laws given by the LAW
GIVER.

I know you are right in your assessments by the perfect selection of
terms when describing the multi-faceted nature of energy. It is like
a fabric woven together so when we are able to disturb that locked
together structure all of creation comes to the rescue to repair it.
a jolly good egg once said "Nuts"
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In my mind this applies to several in the list of people you mentioned, Joe had big troubles, the first being he was born a Mormon and many men
who are at the engineering money levels are drawn into the Masonic
Lodge. It is well known that incestuous behavior has been part of the
Mormon community for decades.
The problem I see is when people start throwing around unfounded accusations it opens the door for everyone to start doing the same. If you have proof of your claims then show it and if not what you are doing is called slander and you need to stop because it's offensive.

Maybe you could show us the vast expanse of your work Bro?, I mean by the way you talk you seem to have it all figured out. Have you done anything of substance other than sit at the computer all day harassing other people?.

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Did you see that George Michael just died? He did not follow the rules
as laid out by the maker of all things and he got those nasty unclean
spirits that cost him an early life.
Yes it must have been terrible to be rich, famous, successful, bring joy to millions of people and die at 53 years old. On the other hand to live twice that long and do nothing with your life seems like a waste of time. What have you done lately Bro?. I mean other than sit at the computer all day bashing people?.

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Let's assume for just a moment that Newman actually HAD something that produced more out than what you put in. How did he get it?

Probably in much the same way as John B did with the SG...the collapse of a coil to produce a high voltage discharge that can be used to charge up a bank of batteries.

Once in the battery it can be used like conventional energy, but cannot be put into a 3 battery system.
Hey Turion

Excuse the moral fringe of outbursts while class is better spent your
way. Nobody gets down to the nuts and bolts of making it work like you
do. I am still gawking at rotor, gota get it finished and also I am setting
up my ceramic saw to cut ferite cores so I can make larger coils fit.

I have some new epoxy I like that can make mounts fit anything.
I am still dreaming up fixtures. Your words carry the most weight here
and I am putting 2 and 2 together from your earlier posts. Your work
is more than a collected pulse from a collapsing coil, the way we route
the power is vital.
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The LAW of the universe does not have dogs popping other dogs in
their back side hallelujah. My point is that if a person can not get these
most basic laws in proper order that they would never be able to do that
in the very complex.
Therein lies the problem and few in any know anything about the real laws of the universe. What your talking about are petty beliefs concocted my man such as religion, racism and money. The fact is if we were not exposed to these beliefs they would not exist and to presume they would in other places in the universe is wild speculation at best.

The only truly universal law is nature and so far as we know out of the trillions of galaxies each containing trillions of stars and planets only this one is inhabited by humans and their false ideals. As such your claim of knowing anything about universal law is a false claim because obviously nobody here has traveled throughout the universe and knows any better.

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G.Michaels had lots of money? This is the measure of a man?
Now we can see where you stand with scientific reasoning.
No that's not what I said however I find it interesting how you have implied it relates to the measure of a man when it doesn't and then threw in scientific reasoning which has nothing to do with it. I'm not even sure how many logical fallacies you have committed with that paragraph... it may be a record of some sort.

It's like saying your dog is brown? This is racism against blacks?, now we see where you stand on multiplication. What the **** are you even saying dude?.

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What I am saying I have said, THE LAWS you see come from the
SELF EXISTENT ONE that you call a man made religion. Your views
obviously are in direct opposition to mine on many matters and that
is your choice.
Oh the self existent one, sorry but something cannot be its own cause because it would have to have the causal power of being before it was.
Don't get me wrong it would be cool because I could cause myself to be a rainbow colored unicorn before I ever was one or even was not one... no wait I think I'm high again.

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This action is known as intellectual dishonesty when folk trade natural
laws for lawlessness. My personal view as spoken before is that anyone
who changes all of the norms at random to suit their daily life can
not advance rational thought in any subject.
This presumes the norm was ever normal, did you know your ancestors used to poop in the woods and smash each other over the head with a club as foreplay?. Thank the self existent one they randomly changed that norm to suit their daily life and advance rational thought. I understand you said your person view is that they shouldn't have changed but I would disagree.

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Do I have to write that on your forehead? George M. got HIV from his
lawless behavior, he was well known for public sex acts with other men
as gross as it may seem to me I guess you are fine with that.
You guessed wrong again, your not very good at this Bro.

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Mean while I can not bring myself to trust people who pervert the
natural laws, when they do, something fights back and like in this
case are gone. If men pervert one thing they will pervert other ideas
so I would be unable to believe their science.
So your saying if I liked to spank the wife's bottom when she's naughty then you couldn't believe my science?. So if for example I said one plus one equals two you could believe me however if I spanked my wife's bottom then you couldn't believe me...interesting. So scientifically speaking your beliefs are dependent on the state of my wife's buttocks...very interesting.

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Casting spells over the Hollywood audience brings down the big money in his case and his sacrifice was his manhood. Those are natural laws
well known today. I can't help it if you have been living in no man's
land and don't know the score.
So he cast a spell by sacrificing his manhood, his bits and pieces?, jesus christ that must have been some spell.
I think you should go to NASA and straighten them out Bro. Just walk right in there and tell them spell casting perverts you don't believe their science and the self existent one told you so. I'm sure they would all tremble in fear and repent on the spot...myself not so much.

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Here is a collection of email exchanges on THE NEWMAN MOTOR.

Some say ignorance is BLISS?


JOE NEWMAN ACCUSED OF STEALING PROTOTYPE


Joe Newman - free energy claimant accused of incompetance

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Hi David of course without a prejudiced view lets dissemble what you write, as I say there are odd tricks being played with our thinking and I include my own

Let's assume for just a moment that Newman actually HAD something that produced more out than what you put in. How did he get it?

Lets rather assume nothing, lets rather consider that the many Professors Doctors and Engineers who were given free access to the machine and tested it many times knew how to use their instruments and testing (they used their own names addresses and put their reputations on the line) The very heart of where the extra energy is obtained is of course at the heart of the thread.

Probably in much the same way as John B did with the SG...the collapse of a coil to produce a high voltage discharge that can be used to charge up a bank of batteries. Not some massive generator that produces a Niagra Falls cascade of energy, but a simple system that will keep your batteries charged up, and in fact, charges them much faster than is commonly thought possible.

Of course to charge and restore batteries - Its such common knowledge now that pulse chargers restore batteries its simply a mute point and thats regardless of if it happens to be your own 3BGS ,Johns SSG or indeed a singe capacitor using di-electric breakdown and bridge the battery will be restored and charged. what portion of that curve provides extra free energy is the effect of interest to most of us and why. Classical electrical theory is not concerned with scale , In fact you will have seen EPD in the video I posted demonstrating resonance on open line feeders on a desk . Never mind Niagara falls and the power lines, still the principles dont change and the events are historical fact.

This is high voltage without current so many people will look at it as not worth much. But there are two devices we have to store that voltage that quite conveniently accept high voltage with little current in one side and supply lower voltage WITH current on the other side. One is a capacitor and the other is a battery.

David without being unkind I don't know how to start on this one.the components you mention store 'energy' not voltage as does a coil there always must be voltage and current however I guess if you could approach perfect resonance in a parallel circuit then you might have the situation you describe. perfect resonance isn't possible because theres always a resistance still that can be minimized with lots of winds the term High voltage is relative .

How do you get that discharge at little or no cost? You need a switching device that will supply low voltage to a coil and then turn it off SHARPLY to give you the coil collapse. If that switching device ALSO includes a spark gap, so much the better because something interesting happens when you introduce that spark PLUS a coil collapse. I've built such devices using an Arduino and mechanical devices which included a spark gap and the spark gap out performs the solid state for energy production per pulse, but the Arduino is able to pulse more times per minute than a mechanical, so is more efficient.

To use an Arduino, simply use the "Blink" program to fire a transistor allowing 12 volts to charge the coil, and then capture the energy of the collapse in a bridge rectifier across the coil. But remember. This is a different KIND of energy and you must condition your batteries to receive it (which means draining them BEFORE you charge them this way and running them through many charge cycles) and then they cannot be charged conventionally. Why do this? Well, according to John B they charge faster, they hold the charge better and they increase in capacity.

If you are doing it mechanically you need some kind of rotary switching device. A hall switch, optical switch, reed switch, or trigger coil like John used. Bob French and I have developed our own mechanical switch which utilizes a spark gap and is pretty efficient up to a certain rpm.

I am quite proficient with Arduino's PLCs and other programmable devices for the simple operation you describe a 555 is good enough. still Arduino's are fun. simply put 'pulse battery charger' in your search engine for more circuits and confirmation than you can shake a stick at.

Oh, by the way, when I do this, the coil I pulse is between the positives on the three battery system so
that almost all of the energy pulsed into the coil is collected in the charge battery. Pulse the coil and

inject the the Bemf into a battery ? Just the same as every one else then Bedini,Newman ,Adams ect without exception ?

Oh, by the way, the coils I use to do this are actually motor coils so I also get mechanical energy out of this since it causes a motor to turn.

Just like Newman Bedini Adams and uncle tom cobbley an all then?

Oh, by the way, this motor is also running a Lenz free generator which produces power as the motor rotates.
So you use a pulse to create more energy than you started with. You get MOST of the pulsed energy BACK in the charge batteries, and you get GENERATED energy from every pulse. You have to keep the two systems separate is all, because the energy pulled out of the bridge rectifier across the coil is always going to be a different KIND of energy. Once in the battery it can be used like conventional energy, but cannot be put into a 3 battery system.

I doubt anyone reading this thread is much concerned with the lenz free thing unless it is in itself a COP>1 machine in which case stand alone testing should prove the case. However your next line would catch everyones attention Use a pulse to create more energy not how I see it David, call me picky if you want but all these researchers Bedini ,Newman, Adams ect use a pulse to create the conditions that can be tuned to receive energy and it is those conditions that are being considered . w.r.t any pulsed /spark gap /series capacitor battery system (including yours) I'm assuming the same considerations apply.
to think there are hundreds of undiscovered sources of free energy and each researcher has found one is outrageous . That each researcher has stumbled unwittingly on the same source of energy and cant quantify explain or most of the time duplicate the effect makes a lot more sense doesn't it ? That it is a different sort of energy to anything we might normally encouner goes without saying and the probable reason for that is already outlined

There is no real conflict with what you are writing, or at least not until you assume a spark creates energy oh by the way we are still chasing the same fox kindest regards Duncan.
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I thought this was always important to review. Arcing carbon OU


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for your consideration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfMHq64CW9U

however I woldn't want you to think as David has that a spark creates energy here is a circuit tuned to the other end of the scale (as I see it) - as an example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRME...e=channel_page

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