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Old 06-07-2015, 11:29 PM
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simple switching commutator

I've been trying too design a simple commutator no 'wheel' only magnets.
2 nights ago I woke up at 4am saying 'teeter totter; 'teeter totter lol!
1 magnet each end opposite poles, spring one end, dual brushes polarity correct one end. Self oscillating. In my setup when the battery is very weak. When the polarity of spark gaps is switched the moter won't run. Enough said.
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Bromikey,

I actually asked me a few of this Questions too, but seriously, i dont have enough backround to answer it, why he dont do a mass production or sell them puplic. Do YOU have that backround, that you can say it, what his problem is?
Could be, he sold already a few, as he stated once, could be, that he have other income from a second business, what he maybe have and do this as hobby, or could be, he got other problems by seling it to companies, when he dont have a patent or has some non-disclosure contracts already, what he cant speak about it.
Or he only likes to show peoples a motor what runs on its own source without depleting it.
That is something where you didnt really point out as you asked for a closed-loop selfrunner.
It anyhow gives the impression, you did not really think about his principle, and, like citfa mentions above, it doesnt really matters how much the source is, when it recharges it. It is not only A,ps for Volts, when he keep the source charged.
I could only think of that, that he did need that much power, to have enough torque and acceleration for this car.

I do not trust Peoples, what claims "something dont work" without tried to build a Device by her own, or had something similar and claim it doesnt work and neither the Economy.
Ie. what a salesman needs today are sales, not a device what can aave money. Just look at the walmart and the lot of mass ofjunk what they have at her shelves. All made to break in few months and to cheap to repair it, because sales are what counts. And therefor is the supply what they choose.
Mass articles what are good to make more sales, but nothing for to last for long.
And best is, when you can make a new cover on this cheap junk and sell it in 6 months again new, because it has one more shiny led on it

It also is hard to say, what you could do with this motors, run a Pump or run a fan with it? It has not the acceleration what you mostly need from a motor or the high rpm what someone mostly need on certain machines.
But i could figure, you can drive some slow bicycles with such motors, even, you could do it already because the way it is build with a lot copper, it provides really great torque already, with or without chargin its source.
And i say, even better as the motors, what they already buiild into it right now.

Its also right that you cant trust youtube videos, since there are alot hoaxers and other comedians out, what like to build something with hidden tricks just to fool peoples or bring them to her website to sell any crap plans.

Well, back to the Newman motor. Once someone wrote here, that he bought 2 from his motors, and all what he saw was disturbing the televisions from his neighbours 2 blocks when he let run it.
The newman motor is right now something i cant suggest, to build and expect, that it simple works right now.
I dont even know, if its really needed to have so much copper, because the magnets he use at his devices seems even dont saturate the copper complete.
When someone want to build it, then maybe just take enough copper that you see a strong force when you short the coil by turning the shaft. The commutator is some tricky to play around with it too.
If you dont want to bother, then just dont build it and forget about it and save your time.
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Old 06-08-2015, 12:44 AM
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Showman Joseph Newman

I had to break away without properly finishing my thought. It is too bad for Joseph Newman that he is a backyard tinker and a showman, and not an educated engineer. On top of that, he has some other personality quirks that drive a lot of people crazy. If you want to study someone else who may be on the same track as Newman, I would suggest you follow what Paul Babcock is doing. The common thread is this. They both like big massive copper coils and they both claim to have observed excess energy. There are other bits and pieces, too, but those are the main ones.

Now, you have to admit, if you have read his book, Newman has his own unique theory about how it all works. And, frankly, his theory is unusual and extremely counter-intuitive, especially if you are educated along conventional lines. Essentially, he claims that there is a sort of chain reaction in a mass of copper, when you pass a current through it. The current causes x copper atoms to align their magnetic axis which causes 2x atoms to become aligned which causes 4x atoms, 8x atoms, etc. This means, says Joe, that for some amount of current, you can get a huge disproportionate amount of magnetic force with no additional input of energy. This theory has not been adequately explored, in my opinion, but Joe Newman is not alone in having used his notions to build devices based on his ideas.

Unfortunately, his personality quirks and some of the decisions he has made along the way, have limited, capped or destroyed his reputation. You pick where you stand along that spectrum.

Mistake number one was trusting the US patent system to act without partiality and do their job with honesty and integrity. If you carefully study the history of such things, you should know better than try to patent anything that challenges the hegemony of the government, the banks, the oil interests or any other substantial industry that might feel too threatened. He did and he suffered for it.

Mistake number two was to go nuts with his claims of free energy. This, by itself, is enough to cause all sorts of know-it-alls and academics to try to shoot holes in one's work. People willing to go against the crowd are rare. You have to lay low and let your results talk for you. Let other people make the grand claims about YOUR work, and be self deprecating. One needs to develop a following, a sound financial base, and so many other things, before you "spin out" and lose control.

Mistake number three was to build this huge, expensive demonstration device. Successful revolutionaries in the industrial world started out small and paid close attention to the business side of things. Also, I might add, they were attentive to the people side of things, the politics, if you will. Read the stories of Ford, Edison, Westinghouse, etc. There are many to choose from. I'm trying to remember the name of one other famous inventor that made a huge fortune and changed the world, but it doesn't really matter. The stories seem to parallel each other. Invent a small device and sell 10. Then 100. Then 1000, 10,000, 100,000, 1,000,000. Be sure you make a small profit on each one, and increase the profit as you go along. Not doing things this way was a huge mistake. Did he really sell 1 for $2,000,000? It doesn't really matter because the money was totally wasted.

This really focuses the spotlight on the posts by Max. The device tested by the NBS for the USPTO, was really not that large. But, see how things got screwed up? That pretty much proves these three mistakes were devastating. I hope someone gets through to Joe Newman before it is too late and he is able to see the problems he made and rectify them. I believe it can still be done, if indeed, his machine is able to do what he claims. In my view, it is entirely possible, simply not proven to my personal satisfaction.
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Old 06-08-2015, 02:51 AM
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personality quirks that drive a lot of people crazy.


Mistake number one was trusting the US patent system to act


Mistake number two was to go nuts with his claims of free energy.


Mistake number three was to build this huge, expensive demonstration device.


Also, I might add, they were attentive to the people side of things, the politics, if you will. Read the stories of Ford, Edison, Westinghouse, etc. There are many to choose from.


I'm trying to remember the name of one other famous inventor that made a huge fortune and changed the world


I believe it can still be done, if indeed, his machine is able to do what he claims. In my view, it is entirely possible, simply not proven to my personal satisfaction.
Joit let me tell one other thing.

Unless an inventor can either be completely corrupted or exploited

the people that make this world turn won't take you or your device.

Do you know who picks and chooses who's invention is excepted

for manufacturing and distribution?

When you buy a gun to shoot people with, then you will understand

the mind of those who run the world. I doubt you could ever shoot

anyone. The world is run by men who are willing to murder to have

THEIR systems continuing on its present course.


There is no magical/ get lucky invention that make you billions.

You either roll over an take it the way THEY want to give it to

you or you are rejected. You are either inside of the ELITE

families or you are nothing.


All of the big names mentioned here did not get wealthy by accident

or chance. It is a family thing.

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Old 06-08-2015, 03:20 AM
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Also Newman claims that his motors take anywhere

from 3000-7000 lbs of copper magnet wire to be put into

one motor. Not counting all of the machining, just the

copper magnet wire.

That is say a 5000lb medium build midsize motor at approx

going rate of $10 per pound for wire = $50,000

Just for the copper of a middle of the road attempt.

You can buy a lot of jelly beans/ biscuits and gravy for

say a $100,000 dollar motor? Minimum?

Not to mention hiring Joe to make sure your endeavor

doesn't go over $200,000 for a larger motor.

That is a lot of mula for watching 9v battery strings

charge themselves.

Woe Wee isn't that special.
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Old 06-09-2015, 02:26 AM
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I found a video that shows a modified newman that that uses a wimshurst.
I like the double newman wimshurst.
The newman motor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcmmGGL--J8
The double newman wimshurst
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq5iWkh58sM

He mentions an improvement when using a spark gap.

In another video shows a high speed low torque.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7HqSVo60KY

What about the ratio of diameters of wimshurst and newman in the double newman ?
what about wire size and number of turns, the commutator, carbon brushes ?
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Old 06-09-2015, 03:18 AM
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I found a video that shows a modified newman that that uses a wimshurst.
I like the double newman wimshurst.
The newman motor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcmmGGL--J8
The double newman wimshurst
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq5iWkh58sM

He mentions an improvement when using a spark gap.

Here is that comment from the owner of the video. He says
it is just a DC motor.

The second video the man's primary mover is 2 DC motors

He calls it a cool experiment and probably needs to charge the

battery after a few minutes of operation.

People build the NEWMAN motor and then when it doesn't

work they try to make sense of having it so they hook it

to something else hoping for the right combination of

conversions. Many have stumbled onto free energy conversion

processes by accident just this way.

It is a cool experiment he says, and that is all it is.

The other guy runs a battery flat out in 4 hours so

no recharging of the primary is happening.

I watched a video this week where the guy said he built a big

expensive NEWMAN motor and was on all of the threads with

NEWMAN and he said that NEWMAN was less than honest

when it came down to specific details to run his big replication.

He is all over youtube warning people about what happened to him.

Maybe someday soon a NEWMAN motor will emerge that powers

itself but for now after 40 long years no one has shown one.

I would rather build a window motor like JOHN BEDINI makes.

The principles are very close to the same thing.

Rotating magnets inside of 2 windings arranged pretty much

the same way. One winding above and one below.

To me its a window motor.

It could be a SSG or a window motor or a Newman motor

or a Gray motor or an ADAMS motor or who knows the

other guys names motor

Each one produces a separate characteristic but all

are about a 1 COP.

The key to all magnet motors going OverUnity is to build

magnetic Gates out of magnetic materials that reverse

polarity from the pulsating coils.


jasonTpedersen 1 year ago
Not sure how to measure watts out. It was a 18v drill battery and would run for around 4 hours. The battery says 2.5ah. I took that setup apart and used the wheel for a bedini wheel so i cant even test that exact setup anymore. Also , my commutator was good but not any where close to how it should be in order to get a motor of this type to get to over unity. I basicly had a home maid DC motor. But it was a great project and i learned a whole lot from it
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All the replications are clever combinations but not one replication is operating with a rotor weight distribution, slow speed where magnetic characteristics would remotely resemble the original except a scaled working model that Newman himself made.

It's really great to pursue Styrofoam motors if the weight of the rotor is used as to measure of torque on small models. The same with fly wheels the design parameters needs to follow the criteria of the design and that needs specific details for replication and 40 years later there are a few window motors.

newman10.JPG

This lack of details was the mistake of the past. Because there is a large inventory of failed attempts and 40 year old classics which are not detailed
there is a discerning group who are finding the fakes. Truth is becoming
more important to some and the rest don't care however truth is being sorted into catagories just like all the junk on ebay.
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Old 06-10-2015, 11:59 AM
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What about the ratio of diameters of wimshurst and newman in the double newman ?
what about wire size and number of turns, the commutator, carbon brushes ?
Well, dont know how he can make the wimhurst part more efficient, maybe a bigger segment, maybe more segments. As it shows in more videos, the wimhurst generate faster a charge by faster turns, so maybe a transmission ratio, since he says, a wimhurst have no resistance with load on it.
It only looks for me like, that the charging at the way how newman it does is different to the standard way, that spikes are a very fast charging, so that the batteries charge different as normal.
Batteries in common seems usual dont work well with charged and quickly discharge, so i am not sure if it really works to charge them back from another source and let them provide the energy.

For the brushes, i think there is carbon taken because it's simple is the most reliable connection. For the commutator it really seems like its better, when you have one what makes more pulses, i still think about, how much more improvement that shorting the coils short before can have, that it can increase the back pulse.

And yes, a flywheel is maybe needed, to slow the rotor a bit to the point, where the current at the coil appears.
I ponder a bit about that too, why he has the magnets arranged with a distance between them. Because when you would hold 2 north pointing magnests beside eachother, it gives a stronger field torwards her poles.
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This man is showing a Newman motor self running so there

ya go. Enjoy it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcd7B1qoDPE
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Sorry Bro Mikey,

He does not show that motor self running. He clearly shows it is running off the 4 AA batteries. The fact he is getting 14 volts out means nothing if there is no load on the generator side. I can use a scooter motor and turn a wheel with magnets on it and get over 150 volts from the little pump motor coil that Gerard showed us. But I as soon as I put a load on it my voltage drops to about 15 volts and the current on my scooter more goes up.

Please understand that voltage alone doesn't mean anything. And a generator putting out voltage without a load also means nothing.

Keep learning. At least you have shown some degree of discernment lately.

Respectfully,
Carroll

PS: I would really like to see his system running with the output fed back to some caps and then dumping the caps to another bank of caps which could run the motor. It seems like a very efficient running motor and might even possibly run itself like you thought.
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Sorry Bro Mikey,

He does not show that motor self running. He clearly shows it is running off the 4 AA batteries. The fact he is getting 14 volts out means nothing if there is no load on the generator side. I can use a scooter motor and turn a wheel with magnets on it and get over 150 volts from the little pump motor coil that Gerard showed us. But I as soon as I put a load on it my voltage drops to about 15 volts and the current on my scooter more goes up.

Please understand that voltage alone doesn't mean anything. And a generator putting out voltage without a load also means nothing.

Keep learning. At least you have shown some degree of discernment lately.

Respectfully,
Carroll

PS: I would really like to see his system running with the output fed back to some caps and then dumping the caps to another bank of caps which could run the motor. It seems like a very efficient running motor and might even possibly run itself like you thought.

He shows it self running in that sense that it doesnt consume Power.

Voltage means maybe nothing, but with no context, your sentence mean nothing too, because you dont see how much watts it has nor anyone else see it.
But you think you can judge then about it.
I am sure that Bromikey did consider this too
The Batteries dont show a drop, try that with a conventional motor to run a load or rotor without a single drop at the batteries.

It doesnt really matter if he would has to change the Batteries once a in few Months when they dont need to be charged up again during the run.
You seems to want to be such a smart guy, why dont you consider it that way.
Dont want it like that? But " uh oh, because there are batteries!"
That is ridiculous.

By the way, why do you try right now with any post you do be senior teacher for Bromikey.
You see a easy Victim at him ?
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This man is showing a Newman motor self running so there

ya go. Enjoy it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcd7B1qoDPE
Thanks BroMikey! or maybe I should say BroMighty

Even if a "battery" is in a circuit with a motor as part of a system, and the voltage remains constant or better over a period of time in the battery, and over the same time frame, the system is producing anything that constitutes energy that is dissipated into the environment outside of the system; heat, vibration, light, torque, you name it... And the battery is not receiving energy from the outside environment but only receiving reflected and/or somehow augmented energy that is being put into the motor, Then It is overunity.

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Thanks BroMikey! or maybe I should say BroMighty

Even if a "battery" is in a circuit with a motor as part of a system, and the voltage remains constant or better over a period of time in the battery, and over the same time frame, the system is producing anything that constitutes energy that is dissipated into the environment outside of the system; heat, vibration, light, torque, you name it... And the battery is not receiving energy from the outside environment but only receiving reflected and/or somehow augmented energy that is being put into the motor, Then It is overunity.

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OR Mighty MIKEY 250lbs solid blubber big mouth

Okay then

You and Joit know more than me, it just LOOKS like free energy

because it self runs. Maybe a COP of 1.1 like the SSG bike wheel.

I like your explanation and will consider what it means.

I really do not know for sure if this is OU but the man said

"SELF RUNNING" so I think this is the same thing.
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Self sufficient? self runner? Newman with Bedini tronix

Free energy without the free part

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Never ending Newman motor runs LED's

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Hi Joit

I am not sure if the guy did it. However it looks like it self run?

So this is a start. All other videos do not self run.

Do you think he is the best one?

I am beginner judge.

Easy victim? No I think OU/Free Energy is real just that

99.9999 percent of the people have nothing

Bromikey,

I mean easy victim, at the terms of, like someone has no clue and dont look carefully on a device, because he have not enough backround.

And no, i dont think he is the best one. I was about to say, that this is not what newman did.
Yes, there are a lot things out and maybe 70% do not work as expected and 25% are just fakes, but they call them all "bedini's" and "newman motors".
But at last, you have 2 better devices with this. Once a newman motor style, what is a motor what really can have a lot torque for very less energy and charging at bedini style circuits,
what keep your batteries a very very long time alive and not boil them down in a short period, like the classical way of charging batteries is.

But i remember the first records what they showed from newman, they take a standard toy motor, run it on batteries a minute or close two, until they been depleted, then connected them to his motor, they charged up, and they run the standard motor again over two minutes, until the batteries been depleted again.
This guy what you posted the video here seems charge it back with a rectifier and dump it into the batteries, but its not what newman is about.
https://youtu.be/0RA3mnyjK_w?t=6m15s there is the demonstration how it "should" work. Charging the source with fast spikes, and that's the 'trick' how you can charge almost anything and have a longer lifespan, but not like the classic way of pushing charge into a batterie until its boiled long enough.

https://youtu.be/30V6fBnXtkY?t=7m25s that's another video where he talk about the gyroscopic effect, and by looking at that,
i don't think he's only a simple guy, what did not really think about what he do and work on. A t around 09:50, where he talks about, its not his view, but gods, it tells me more as if he's well aware of Inspiration, and well, isn't that, what most peoples describe as the gift of god or god itself?
Its just a lot time again to watch videos to dont see a lot at the end, when you are not really interested in it.
Just the last days a word came all time in my mind, its like a redneck motor, but well, seems redneck's devices are lately a new modern term to prejudge peoples.
And another strange thing that this hearing was this room with obviously another room behind hidden with this dark glasses.
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what is a motor what really can have a lot torque for very less energy and charging at bedini style circuits,
what keep your batteries a very very long time alive and not boil them down
Good question I see the Newman
Bedini hybrid everywhere now and wonder why.




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But i remember the first records what they showed from newman, they take a standard toy motor, run it on batteries a minute or close two, until they been depleted, then connected them to his motor, they charged up, and they run the standard motor again over two minutes, until the batteries been depleted again.
I seen that trickthey pull the battery HARD till the meter
shows 1 volt and while they are connecting the Newman
motor up the battery recovers and the NEWMAN motor
is a very lite load design, but the other motor is high
amp pull. Trick experiment, yeah I see them




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Charging the source with fast spikes, and that's the 'trick' how you can charge almost anything

No one has done that yet where they use spikes to recharge
the primary while the system runs. I can't find one video.



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https://youtu.be/30V6fBnXtkY?t=7m25s that's another video where he talk about the gyroscopic effect, and by looking at that,
i don't think he's only a simple guy, what did not really think about what he do and work on. A t around 09:50, where he talks about, its not his view, but gods, it tells me more as if he's well aware of Inspiration, and well, isn't that, what most peoples describe as the gift of god or god itself?

Many people say gays loving each other is a gift of GOD.
It doesn't make it a gift of God. Some say having 5 wives is a
gift of God. But is it? So be very careful about people when
they call everything a gift from God, even me. Watch out!!

WHY are they saying this? How would you know if the thing
they are calling a gift doesn't come from the ET's grey's
with the misshapen heads

Okay enough of that

Now let me say this about GOD or let me say PERCEPTION.
Our ability to perceive comes from the KING and is a wonderful
thing. We have greatness inside of each of us. We can see
into systems and create new things.

Yes many exercise powerful gifts given to them from on HIGH.
The GIFT comes from above, yes!!!! The person may choose
to use that gift to make money to run drugs in another
country if they so desire.

This is where the confusion comes. Beware!!!

IT IS WHAT WE DO WITH THE GIFT THAT SHOWS OUR GOAL.

It is not the fault of the GIFT or the GIFT GIVER.

THE GIFTS ARE FREELY GIVEN BY THE GIFT GIVER TO MEASURE YOU.

Or to measure us all. THE GIFT OF GOD PERVERTED IS NOT
A VALIDATION OF THE WORK OF GOD.

WE all have gifts that are given to us from the KING!!!

OKAY SO

"IF" and I do mean "IF" someone actually does OPERATE their gift

to honor the "SELF EXISTENCE ONE" then and only then are

you onto the real KINDNESS. So be very careful about thinking

that everyone who claim THEY are from GOD. I am

about to start cussing now so I had better shut up.

I have known many false folks.





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Its just a lot time again to watch videos to dont see a lot at the end, when you are not really interested in it.
Dude I am always interested in a little video, it's nothing time
wise I watch hundreds of them. Sure I am interested.


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Just the last days a word came all time in my mind, its like a redneck motor, but well, seems redneck's devices are lately a new modern term to prejudge peoples.
And another strange thing that this hearing was this room with obviously another room behind hidden with this dark glasses.
Long haired hippies with red skin and a peace pipe like Willy Nelson
are representative of man NOT GOD. Red Necks and White Necks all
have their pity parties of excuse making why they were treated
so poorly."I've always done the best I could"
It doesn't make them Godly.

BEWARE of the soap opera tactics like a publicity stunt. Attracting
many many followers.

Now having cleared the air on how folks misuse the name of the KING
to gain followers, send me some HARD evidence. Let's get on with
it Joit. You are a better judge then all of these people.

You are a better leaders and judge. You are here for the right
reason and that speaks for itself.

Say on.

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Bromikey,
NO, i am not any different to them what are still around with a sober mind, even some can think better logical then i do sometimes,
Its only the one what dont use her brain and think further in circles and her old pattern are the one, what mess around anything without progress.

You quote me pretty wrong.
First, the Batteries what they depleted at the Newman motor with an other motor.
They dont regenerate back that much, that they run afterwards the same motor longer as they did before. Dont try to explain it that cheap.
Batteries usual dont really regenerate again, even the one before 30 years.

Next. charging the source with spikes. That is how Newman does it.
Charging with spikes at common, you can charge almost everthing, because it doesnt heat the material not that much that it burns.
At pulses, the material from batteries have time between the pulses to cool down again, and by that, you can charge most material.
If you boil it with, say, a to long duty cycle, you either make them bad or damage it over time.
Its only Newman what seems does it that way, to charge the source during the run, but he also shows the meter measuring negative values, and that is something what less peoples really cant get together at her Motors.

But actually, i talked about Bedini circuits AND newman motors, not to put them together in a hybrid way. The Bedini circuit NEED the Batteries to settle down, until you can use the Energy.
The effect what J. Newman has is some different to J. Bedini, even, when you look where the minus is connected at a Bedini style circuit.


Next.
I talked about his Inspiration what he had, to understand his Motor, not about all that Excuses what some Peoples look for to make her things right.
But it seems you dont really know what Inspiration means, or you wouldnt drift that far away by that Examples what you gave.

And btw, i got a good eyesight, no need for you to use BIG COLORED LETTERS to bloat your postings and make long threads what do not contain anything.

Most from here is allready Oftopic, because the Starter asked, if the kind of Coils and wires is, how newman made it work, because in his international Patents, he has 2 coils in it.
That Tesla Patent shows one Coil with thin wire, the secondary with very thick wire, but it seems they are both in resonance, so that the secondary can perfect collect the energy from the first one. Just Newman stated that his Motor works with 1 Coil and no second is needed, but the commutator is critical.

If you want a Tip from me, what you should look into, then stay with the Rotoverters, there had more peoples success with resonant devices, or build a Bedini after his schematics and specifications, thats probatly saver then a Newman motor as a Fan or a Waterpump.
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Bromikey,



Next.

But it seems you dont really know what Inspiration means

And btw, i got a good eyesight, no need for you to use BIG COLORED LETTERS to bloat your postings and make long threads what do not contain anything.

If you want a Tip from me, what you should look into, then stay with the Rotoverters, there had more peoples success with resonant devices, or build a Bedini after his schematics and specifications, thats probatly saver then a Newman motor as a Fan or a Waterpump.

Talking about inspiration coming from God means a lot to me

sorry you don't feel that way. Its either a good goal or not.

My big letter are my business so tell your buddies to

grow up and get a life of their own.

Bedini, I build, Newman is a waste after I build Bedini

and as for your kindness I would say you are a waste of my time

BOY



Got IT?? Your intent is all wrong.

Bedini deserves the credit not that Newman hippy

saying Jesus saves, He is a liar and twister.

You like his you go to his but don't tell me

what to build BOY

So where is your example of a video where the primary

charges with Newman spikes? See I made you mad BOY.

You don't have a working example.

So don't take it out on me

Show me, don't run your mouth about what we all know.

Talk right BOY and I will too.

Bedini window motor and circuit is working and the Newman

is a secret piece of trash.

Show me the video. You don't have one and in 40 years

this lying gOd whinning freak has lied to you that the

information is all there.

And yes I am right about the battery trick, yes.

Pull down the battery hard and it recovers then

put that same battery on a JOULE thief and it will

run for days and days, same trash in the name of

free energy.

I quote you perfect now?
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Stephan Hartman commented about Newman motor replication 16/11/98
describes the spark gap, hissing sounds associated with the negative voltage spikes, special commutator, color of the spark.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/NWMfb.htm

The version 1 setup pulse duration timing given and comment about larger circumference commutator giving longer duration pulse leading to the sustained negative pulse.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/qm11tun.htm

version 1.3 the commutator giving a waterfall apearance on the scope rather than the drooping ring wave with small diameter commutator.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/NMac0625.htm

6/27/98
Naudin modifies his power supply to capture (actually going into the PS by itself.) rectify negative pulses the revised commutator that gives sustained negative pulses with segmented commutator. There was speculation that newman machine effect of negative pulse charecteristic was involved in this replication.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/NMac0626.htm
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Stephan Hartman commented about Newman motor replication 16/11/98
describes the spark gap, hissing sounds associated with the negative voltage spikes, special commutator, color of the spark.

.................................................. ..................

longer duration pulse leading to the sustained negative pulse.

Thanks Mikro

That is why I say go with Bedini stuff, it is all there and

the negative pulsing is also. All of my circuits run negative

energy.

The Bedini SPIKE MODE is negative energy

The BEDINI Genmode is Negative energy

The Bedini Cap Dump shoots to negative terminal.

Newman like so many others offer incomplete details.

I don't want to sound like I am telling people what to

do here but it makes more sense to go with the same

ideas from someone honest.

40 years Newman has hidden his information. Largely

due to the fact that it is impractical just like the

School Girl Bike wheel is before it is altered to the more

advanced Ferris wheel.

Why isn't anyone building a Ferris wheel. It is less

expensive by about 30,000 dollars probably.

I saw Part 22 of energy from the vacuum and John's

Ferris wheel was rocking the house.

Now the Ferris wheel build makes sense, not this

Newman creatures garbage.

John Bedini comes out in the open every year and

reproves his invention and no one want to build his.

Thanks Mikro hope you are not taking this personal.

Naudin is another scam artist, telling folks he is out

for the better good of humanity while he is funded

by the French to hid and patent all of these invention

so they can be stopped if they ever get perfected.

Everywhere is confusion.

Lindemann told me that.
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Here is all super inventor Stephan Hartmann had to offer

on the Newman motor. Lots of Radio frequencies.

I have a joule thief that runs and charges the primary

with spikes, so what.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwf9h3nKoTg
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Here is a tiny Newman toy motor. Caveman motor. 40 years

worth of a toy. 85-90 percent COP. Insult to a grown up experimenter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9_a3tZcVaE


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Just another worthless toy Newman motor generator

without a hope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO9KYWajLfk
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Bedini's work in teaching and the annual conference is important.
I won't deminish Newman because of Bedini's accomplishments.

Newman and Hartman does not deserve flaming. Overall work.
Naudin has a reputation but has provided useful website and data.
I can read Naudin and take his information and use it if it works.
He uses his time well gets down to the issue quickly.

Not everyone can float abstract details from many different inventors
and sort them but I don't care if people think I am nieve because eventually
after trial and error one combination will work. I feel I have an obligation
to try to improve our position with energy extinction.

If the flaming continues like your doing then I think you need get a new outlook
rather than frustrate because most are unproven without repliication.
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Flaming and fuming is in order after 40 years of being strung out
hung out and left to dry out. This free energy carnival of lies
has sent many to their graves wonder if there is such a thing.

Maybe if we stop believing the magicians we might have time
to find practical answers. All of the people you mention I am
sure are sweet men, but I am looking for more than just cool
experiments. I am looking for the real deal and non of these guys
you talk about have it. Non of them show one working
year after year after year after year after year.

I have been looking at Newmans work and hearing about
his motors in the news 35-40 years if memory serves me
correctly. And I am suppose to swallow down this line
of sales tactics about saving humanity and buy their
kits?

It's time to shake yourselves.

I will not condone this type of romanticism with personalities
who SAY they have a secret technology to sell literature.

Every generation after Newman discovered his motor
in the 70's is better equipped and have a high degree of
electronic skill. Better electronic components, better machines
to see the waveforms a greater degree of workmanship
with armatures, stators. Many more forms of magnets
cheaper to buy and I am suppose to think that the young men
who replicated Newman's work were to dump to figure
that simple motor instruction out?

I am going to tell everyone now that the answer is not
in the massive coil, it is not in the commutator, its not in
the sparkgaps.

Plain and simple, it is an impractical proof of concept that
no one has improved because Bedini has already done that
better than Newman. Bedini has WORKED!! He has been busy.

Not Newman. Newman pops in from decade to decade to see
what new investor he can hook. This is of course my opinion
and anyone who wants to prove me wrong feel free. Until
then I feel run over by these types, deeply put upon when
I am lead around and buffaloed year after year.

I don't enjoy being lied to. Now if anyone else wants to
go on thinking I am all wrong and need to cool of, then
that is their choice as well.

Maybe you don't mind being misdirected like some herd
of long horned dumb animal as is typical of the general
population.

Don't get me wrong I like Mr. Newman's smooth talking
television interview and his youtube video using a girl
to get everyone's attention.

My problem is I didn't learn a thing and that makes me angry.
I didn't come to the Newman video to see a girl who is hot and
young. I despise being manipulated by guys like Newman who
think the masses are to stupid to see through his line of
bunk.

Newman is nothing. John Bedini is the man of the hour boys
and always will be, John has earned that. John Bedini has
shown just about every kind of free energy or extra energy
gadget that has come and gone.

John Bedini is going to be showing more results and has given
us ALL of the answers. It is all there.

Flaming against lies is fine. You should be angry when someone
pulls the wool over your heads for 40 years. Besides in
America we reserve the right to free speech. Some of us
are not fearful of thinking for ourselves.

Now windings and magnets have been around for 120 years
and many have gotten some cool results. Newman has claimed
self powering, self running free energy for 35 plus years.

Where is it? His work is a lie. Newman has said self running
self powering for 35 plus years, where is this happening?

It wasn't me who claimed that, so don't try to pin the tail
on this donkey. It is Newman who is saying that, this is his
work. Newman's work.

35 plus years NEWMAN said his is self powering self running
this is Newmans work, a lie. Extra power for the whole world
to save humanity. This is the Newman slogan of carnival
sales tactics, Newman not Bromikey, Newman says this.

So don't try to back me down, when I smell something with
a bad scent I put it out of the house.

Whenever you see a Newman motor on line you see the Bedini
hybrid, now why is that? Can anyone answer this correctly?

It is because Bedini is the only man who is truly honest who
cares and has given us the answers to running a coil of wire
with a magnetic pulse in one form or another.

John Bedini is not a liar and every year he tells you that his
invention is not going to save the world and it is not free.

Bedini makes his living doing amplifier oscillators and other
circuits all of his life and has made an honest living doing that.
John has not lied about his motors and has been honest about
the need to build the basic SSG magnet motors and then
improve it. Bedini has not used a carnival sales approach
to hook investors to earn a living.

This is my right, I have a right to express myself concerning
men I have watched for decades. Now somebody prove me wrong.

The Newman motor that lidmotor has shown in the video I posted
proves that this out dated mid 19th century toy motor is best
left to the grade school department for elementary students.

Now if Newman had not lied about the extra energy machine
that he built having so much left over energy to save the world.
Just send for plans NOW!!

I would have just chalk it up as a cool experiment.

But Newman instead has lied in MY FACE "Mine" for many
decades. That deserves scolding
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Heres the truth about Newman's past free energy scams.

PhACT: The Error Machine of Joseph Newman


Here is just one quote from the carnival wizard and corporation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAslQUCfLx4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFutjEVUD98



"Our old friend Dennis Lee learned the free energy business from Newman. Both claim to have been inspired by God but only Newman claims to have been predicted by Nostradamus! "

Quote 2

"In other words, Newman doesn't get his "over-unity" efficiency by comparing the electrical input and the mechanical output as anyone else would do. He simply miscalculates the resistive losses, which the rest of the world would treat as wasted input power, then adds them to the output.

Of course no over-unity device has yet passed the ultimate test, being able to drive its own input indefinitely."






How blind are you people?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGAz3piA3qg
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HANK'S LEGAL CORNER: JOSEPH NEWMAN! CHILD ABUSER AND FATHER OF SOMER'S KILLER


Wacky Inventor's Connection To A Notorious Local Murder
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A wacky inventor and a person of interest in a local murder share a bizarre connection.
Doomsday prophet and debunked inventor Joseph Newman was once Jarred Harrell's step-father.

When Harrell was a child, Newman married both his mother and 8-year old sister. Newman claimed that God told him to do it.

That didn't hold and the kids went to live with their father. Harrell moved back with his mom when the two divorced five years later.

Newman made predictions that the world will end in 2012.

He made the biggest splash when he claimed to have invented a perpetual motion machine.
He claimed the machine could do incredible things, and that landed him a spot on the Tonight Show. However scientific testing destroyed those claims.

Newman tried for years to get a machine patented, but was denied on several occasions before giving up that quest. He still maintains a website touting the machine.

Harrell is facing child porn and molestation charges. He is also a person of interest in the Somer Thompson murder. [UPDATE: Harrell has since been arrested for Somer's murder.]

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So God told him to marry Jarred Harrell's then eight-year old sister. I must be Anne Frank, then, because His Son preached to the Galileans about 2,000 years ago to "suffer the little children". He later told child abusers and molestors to go drown in the sea, because the wrath of God is superfierce when you harm the children.

People like Newman, Phillip Garrido, Brian David Mitchell, and all other phoneys hide behind God to justify molesting children. If they truly believed in God, they would have attended Church and believed in and done His Word.

It is not the Province of God to allow children to be molested. Instead of hiding behind God, they should seek help or turn themselves in.

As to Harrell's abuse, did anybody help him get over the trauma when he was abused? NO! They let him fester until he was involved in child pornography. Instead of immediately arresting Harrell, Cook County Sheriff's in Florida sat on the investigation until Somer Thompson was kidnapped, raped, and murdered, and then found in a Georgia landfill.

Before Harrell was involved in kiddie porn, authorities should have HELPED Harrell when he was a victim! Now, you have a grieving mother and family, because nobody turned and helped the abused person when he was only a victim.

Again,

STOP BEGATTING ABUSE!

You blind folks should have left me alone.
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