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Old 10-01-2014, 04:26 PM
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QEG,
When I posted my little poem, I guess I should have been more specific. In post 452 you made the statement:

"Over-Unity is a very cruel joke."

It was to that statement and your general opinion of such devices I was referring, not to the WITTS device specifically. As I said in my last post, I have not seen enough information about the WITTS device to have an opinion. However, I am skeptical. But just because this particular device may not produce more energy than it takes to run does not mean ALL such devices are frauds. And if you believe that to be the case, why are you here? Just to argue with everyone? To show us the error of our ways? What a waste of your life THAT would be. LOL

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Who are you addressing Dave ? I'll assume it is me you are referring to. I was
replying to BroMikey because my name was mentioned in relation to Witts
which is a known scam. I simply answered the question he posed and gave
my opinion on that. The QEG is a copy of the Witts "device" and is in my
opinion also an obvious scam.

That's called free speech. And this site is not only for people who believe in
all scams. Skepticism is healthy.

I am a member of this site because I thought people wanted to collaborate
on new, novel and efficient ways to harness energy.

Why not face reality and call a spade a spade. Why are you here ? Is it to
try to convince people there is free energy from certain devices without
providing any proof or even evidence ? Or is it to display your poetry ?
I don't read peoms on alternative energy forums. If I want poetry I can
write my own.

I'm less likely to post if people do not type my name or refer to me.

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Old 10-02-2014, 03:05 AM
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Farmhand,

If you will look at my post again you will notice it begins:

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QEG,
When I posted my little poem, I guess I should have been more specific. In post 452 you made the statement:

"Over-Unity is a very cruel joke."
I began my post:

"QEG,"

I guess I should have begun it:

"Dear QEG"

so it would have been more clear, but I DID reference a statement the individual who calls himself "QEG" made in post #452. I don't believe you made post 452.

As to why I am here. I guess to annoy you. LOL. Actually to learn and to share. I really don't care whether anybody believes in COP>1 devices. If they choose not to, I have no problem leaving them to their own devices and going cheerfully on my way. Unless of course they accuse me of being a liar, a fraud, or incapable of reading my scope. With that I take issue. And as I have seen COP>1 many times, I guess I am here to encourage others to keep looking. The proof is in the numbers.

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Old 10-02-2014, 07:16 AM
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That's just a two phase generator with a very poor makeshift rotor, I did it just
to show the two voltage phases 90 degrees difference with the rotor magnet
placing I used, nothing special, nothing to do with Witts at all, it is a toroid
wound similarly to Tesla's two phase generator and rotor with permanent
magnets rather than a wound rotor. It has no real working purpose except to
show the winding connections and configuration to get two phases from the
four separate coils wound on each quarter with opposite coils series connected.

Tesla patent on AC generator plant. The text stamped on the patent and
showing in the link should read "Best Available Copy" not
"Best available Cop" the "Y" didn;t come out in the stamping process.
Patent US390721 - Best available cop - Google Patents




Witts are scammers as is FTW and the QEG a scam.
..

Dog Blast that is a nice size machine dude. Seems like you are not very far away from some kind of reconnection diagram to get it doing something else.

WHo knows maybe we will all get enough time to try all these experiments before the bell rings.

I saw your other video and thought wonder what you got from the double coils well 4 coils video???

That reminded me of the old radio days back in the 50's and 60's.

But that core of that round motor should be tested more. Is that big dog all steel? Or ferrite? If it is steel there isnt as much as you can do with it.

But who knows Bedini uses steel rods in his magneto magnet motor.

That's what I call the SSG now.

Anyway I need to say that I am sorry for being so hard on you before and won't hit so hard next time so keep working on something. I know how people feel when they have been around a long time with no free energy.

You will be among some of the first to witness ground breaking results. Can you get time to do what Web000x is doing?

Not that we know the next step. You can run a scope better than me thats for sure but scopes are not everything.

Got any decent cores?

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Well it's about time these plans go mainstream.

Would it be foolish to believe that the plans released have been modified ever so slightly to ensure that the device can never output more than is input?

Looking at Tesla's patent, perhaps this device should first be constructed with a commutator system, tuned, and then analyzed using an oscilloscope. After that a computer controlled system could take over once everyone knows what's happening.

I still believe that the QEG is very similar to the Lockridge device in the way it harnesses power. Keep it simple.
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Looking at the solid state version, it's probably the better choice of units to try and replicate. The idea appears to be the same. Just change the flux in the core at resonance, and do the best to capture the electricity that comes off it.

Expensive circuitry isn't even a requirement for this one. But an elaborate mechanical switching device is if you go that route. With the advent of cheap electronics these days, it's probably best to go solid state, but to spread this technology to the masses, a mechanical means in which any man could construct would be ideal.

It would be quite interesting to construct a solid state version of the QEG using the solid state coil switching the flux within the core. I bet the circular shape would help increase the efficiency of the coil.

flux-switch-dual-toroid.jpg

I did that up pretty quick for visual reference just to give an idea of how to increase the efficiency of the flux travel and probably boost the output. I forgot to add the magnet in the middle but you get the point.
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:12 PM
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.... Just change the flux in the core at resonance, and do the best to capture the electricity that comes off it.

....

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Hi,

Do you mean mechanical resonance of the core? if yes, how do you look for it I wonder.

If you have an inclination to solid state flux switching, I'd like to show you a patent application from 2009: US 20090096219 which does just that but (I believe) in an even more advanced way you show in your last drawing. here is a link:
https://www.google.com/webhp?tbm=pts...US+20090096219

And interestingly enough, the same principle is used for a switching mode power supply circuit by the same inventors, their application is US 2014091890, the link is:
https://www.google.com/webhp?tbm=pts...S+2014091890++

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Old 10-31-2014, 12:14 AM
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Baahahahaahahaha!!!

gyula you just made my day/night.

Just goes to show how pointless it is to patent things.

Everything out there is already waiting to be discovered.


My idea for a mechanical oscillator would require a variable capacitor, or some measuring tools to get the inductance of the coils and make sure it all works together.

If you can envision a mechanical switch such a commutator, variable of course so that the timing can be adjusted. A set of 4 would be necessary to control both sets of blocking coils. A motor powered by sharp pulses such as that of a bedini could be used to rotate the switching device to conserve power.

Or... buy one of those cheaper microcontrollers. If you know which frequency is the best for resonance, it will help immensely as it can be calculated by measuring the length of wire (and thickness) of your coils (to give impedance and capacitance)
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the fig 18 in the witts pdf, about a 90 degrees shift, drove me to the following (mini) generator with two AC outputs 90 degrees shifted.
May it be useful to anyone as a substitute of a mechanical switch. ( my first thought was for the Figuera setup)

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hello all
the fig 18 in the witts pdf, about a 90 degrees shift, drove me to the following (mini) generator with two AC outputs 90 degrees shifted.
May it be useful to anyone as a substitute of a mechanical switch. ( my first thought was for the Figuera setup)

image attached
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That's an excellent example of a rotor driven 'switch'

There's a good reason that thrapp character mentions 'flux' all the time... Pretty much all their devices appear to make use of flux switching, which makes so much sense.

In my mind, I see it as a 'sea' of energy in balance. There's a way of mechanically trying to force this sea of energy in order to do something, but why not rather direct the flow using some sort of diverter 'valve'?

I wonder if it's possible to make a solid state flux path device that changes it's own flux, utilizing capacitors in order to change the frequency of the flux diversion... To get it started all one would need to do is give it a 'bump' and have it hooked up to some load. Hmmm... maybe that's how that TPU device works? Mark did say that the device relies on a bunch of little 'kicks' that, when combined, can be used to do real work.

Ah if I only had the time/money. Sucks being a slave
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WITTS a scam? No way Farmhand ! Many independent engineers have verified their stuff. Watch their weekly program on wednesday evening
https://new.livestream.com/WorldImprovement
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Archive of their older programs:
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Oh Jack, you're so naive,
I think an old farmhand has a pretty good idea what's going on.
The Witts machine certainly works, it rakes in cash for old Thrapp.
Give Thrapp some of your money, then some more and possibly more
after that.
You'll end up spending thousands and be left with a pile of junk!
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Lightbulb Robert L Zimmerman



https://www.google.com/patents/US2816240

It looks like Zimmerman first came up with this idea.

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similar patent

Hi ALL ! I found a similar patent
Motor alternator US 4567407 1982 John W. Ecklin
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'' Unless of course they accuse me of being a liar, a fraud, or incapable of reading my scope. With that I take issue. And as I have seen COP>1 many times, I guess I am here to encourage others to keep looking. ''
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Dave, I 've grown over the years to the point that I ignore the naysayers,
accusers, only because I've seen how much time I've lost trying to convert some people.
*
Now, I just roll on forward with the less resistance and focus on positive people,
researchers, etc. that share a similar vision(s)- and Not that we disagree, but
all that adds to a healthy challenge.
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The latest post from the QEG team for historical reference:

Dear QEG Builders,

We are writing to inform you of a beginner’s course in building a QEG starting next week (see below for syllabus and links for registration/payment). While we are still in co-development with builders all over the planet, you may want to learn best practices for assembling your QEG if you need help.

Registration Information and Course Syllabus

QEG:101 Reaching Resonance and Beyond!

Instructor: James Robitaille

In this 10 week course you will be instructed on how to build the basic components of the QEG, get it to power a load from a source of electrical resonance (mechanically pumped parametric resonance), and investigate next/latest steps of co-development (results of the latest research and experiments will be discussed in first class and presented in classes 9 and 10).

Our online meetings will take place in a Zoom room. Details/instructions will be provided 2 days prior to class starting time with your registration/confirmation email. Zoom is not complicated but it requires you have some computer experience (getting online, email address, etc.). Classes begin on Saturday January 17, 2015 promptly at 6 PM EST (will go to 8 PM or a little longer if necessary), and continue every Saturday at the same time until last class on March 21st.

Register for the entire course by midnight January 15th for $200, or for individual classes (see curriculum below) at $35 each up to 2 days prior to that class. We have 90 spaces available which will be filled on a first come, first served basis.

NOTE: If you have been to a QEG build please contact us for special instructions at QEGconsultation@hotmail.com before registering.

IMPORTANT: You must have some knowledge and experience with machinery, tools and electrical/electronic test equipment prior to building a QEG. We assume if you are taking this class you have a basic understanding in these areas, or access to partners who have these skills.



Curriculum

January 17 - Class 1)

- Discussion

- Core: Buy or Build?

- Ordering Parts (most up-to-date list)

- General cost concerns

January 24 - Class 2)

- Tools/Equipment/Instrumentation needed (most up-to-date list)

- Resonance Generator System Description

- Building the Generator Platform

January 31 - Class 3)

- End Plates – Layout and Drilling

- Bearings/Bearing Mounting concerns

- Rotor/Shaft/Shrouds Assembly

February 7 - Class 4)

- Rotor Balancing and Windage concerns

- Setting up the Rotor in the Stator Bore

- Mounting the Core/Rotor Assembly

February 14 - Class 5)

- V-Belts and Pulleys

- Drive Motor - Options

- Variac, Bridge Rectifier – Options

February 21 - Class 6)

- Mechanical Setup Overview

- Initial Wiring concerns

- Initial Electrical Measurements

February 28 - Class 7)

- Load Configuration Overview

- Building a Load Bank - Requirements

- Protection Gap – Critical Component

March 7 - Class 8)

- Resonance Capacitors - Overview

- Implementing a Capacitor Bank

- RPM vs. Frequency vs. Power Output

March 14 - Class 9)

- Electrical Measurements/Hazards/Cautions

- Initial Operation of the Machine/Interactions

- Overview: Requirement of 3 Resonances for OU

March 21 - Class 10)

- Exciter Coil/Spark Gap/Antenna Overview

- Grounding System

- Experiments to-date/Next Steps



The QEG technology has had its ups and downs. We presented it to you in, what we thought, was the best way to get one built, unaware of the extreme human behaviors and obstacles we would encounter which would slow us down considerably.

We know that many who are receiving this announcement have ordered cores and have been waiting patiently for Jamie’s findings. The objective of this course is to teach proper assembly technique, reach resonance and light lightbulbs with the power from the core, and thinking deeply about radiant energy and Tesla et al. technology.

This is one of the most challenging experiences you will have and we want to make certain you’re clear that - as Sterling Allan has coined it: the QEG is still in development, still working on Phase 3 (self-running) of the prototype. James offers his knowledge of the process in a clear and precise, step-by-step manner.

We have some interesting new findings from experiments with Tesla Energy Solutions in Florida, and are in the process of getting equipment shipped and setting up the lab here so the new experiments can be evaluated. Please write to mailto: QEGconsultation@hotmail.com with any questions or concerns.



2-step registration process:



Step 1 - Click “QEG:101 Registration Form” below. This link will take you to the Fix The World QEG:101 Course Registration Form.

Enter information and submit.



Step 2 – Click “QEG:101 Pay Here” below. This link will take you to paypal where you can submit payment using paypal or other credit/debit card.



***Your registration confirmation will be sent 2 days prior to first class, along with instructions for using Zoom.***





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Old 01-13-2015, 04:27 PM
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hi there is a company specialiced in make reactive energy usefull
it seems most of qeg output is reactive and dificult to handle

Ortronic, the only technology that recovers the reactive energy
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Great stuff

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'' Unless of course they accuse me of being a liar, a fraud, or incapable of reading my scope. With that I take issue. And as I have seen COP>1 many times, I guess I am here to encourage others to keep looking. ''
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Dave, I 've grown over the years to the point that I ignore the naysayers,
accusers, only because I've seen how much time I've lost trying to convert some people.
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Now, I just roll on forward with the less resistance and focus on positive people,
researchers, etc. that share a similar vision(s)- and Not that we disagree, but
all that adds to a healthy challenge.
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Hi Greg.
I spend more than a year searching the web for a real COP>1 machine that actually works, without success.
Could you please help me to find one.
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Hi perhaps i can help you a little to find:

You are walking, living on a free energy perpetual motion machine, do you see some gas engine on the statosphera moving the Earth?

You are made of atoms with electrons moving around at light speed for millions of years without visible source of energy.

There must be thousands of free energy machines going arround from 100 years ago to today but must keep underground cause the big dark cabal that control the world want us to be slaves paying for their oil and BS.
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Hi perhaps i can help you a little to find:

You are walking, living on a free energy perpetual motion machine, do you see some gas engine on the statosphera moving the Earth?

You are made of atoms with electrons moving around at light speed for millions of years without visible source of energy.

There must be thousands of free energy machines going arround from 100 years ago to today but must keep underground cause the big dark cabal that control the world want us to be slaves paying for their oil and BS.
I am not sure how this helps me .
I heard the other day that the Rockefellers sold their interest in the oil industry.
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hi ben, sorry i have problems with my keyboard.

here you have one company begining to deliver this month, 2 years warranty. and many more to come

Welcome to AuroraTek
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Simple Design

Hi All ! I simplified the design . QEG - 99 cent ) ) )
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Hi Boris.
this makes it much clearer, however I feel you perhaps over simplified it.
It eems to me that you have make the circuits resonant by adding capacitors, in series if you want low voltage high amps, or parallel if you want high voltage.
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This is Ron Brandt's "Ecklin Variable Reluctance Generator"!!

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Motor alternator US 4567407 1982 John W. Ecklin
Good find!

Do you know what this thing actually is and who built it??

It's Ron Brandt's "Ecklin Variable Reluctance Generator". See page 14 in this pdf, with a photograph of (the main frame of) the exact same device:

http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Mat...sue-4-1994.pdf

Recently, they released these video's, which contain a presentation by Ron Brandt with his motor:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf0...4m-byUpNTRZcTg

You can find more about this Ecklin device here:
John W Ecklin -- Stationary armature generator -- US Patent 3879633, US Patent 4567407, 12 articles

Ron's Ecklin device seems to have been his first prototype, which eventually led to his PermMag motor, of which they've made the plans available on Google drive just months ago:
FREE Ron Brandt Plans

From the conversations about Ron, it does seem that these guys have been in contact with him. Also, they have photo's of his workshop and other things, and the plans do seem to match what Ron showed in the 1995 conference, which was announced in the Extraordinary Science article from 1994, btw.

Interestingly, there are no photographs with a properly wound PermMag motor stator.

From what I make of it, this is essentially "magnetic flux switching" technology:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_switching_alternator

This is the same principle as has been patented as the "MEG" by a/o Tom Bearden. His colleagues posted a very interesting video, explaining how they got to the MEG design and how "flux switching" works:
https://youtu.be/no50_5iSr2Y

So, it seems these guys do have at least Ron's "Ecklin Variable Reluctance Generator" in their possession, but they don't appear to have a working PermMag motor, cause they apparently don't know how to wind and control it.



It seems Ron was the only one who actually understood how to get the PermMag motor running, so the plans are pretty much useless to anyone who does not understand how magnetic flux switching works and what that can do.

If I counted correctly, there's 3 stator pins+coils for every magnet. In order to get the motor to spin, you just need to pulse a coil at the edge of a magnet on the rotor, which will cause the magnetic flux to switch trough that coil, which will give you torque. So, I would say a coil needs to be wound around every stator pin, and only one out of 3 is pulsed at a time, while at the other two you can collect BEMF power....

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Yes the FTW QEG looks exactly like the WITTS Generator because James Robitaille of FTW was trained by Timothy Thrapp of WITTS. James admitted taking one class (10 are needed) and then James left to give away the plans for FREE via FTW. But you must call and pay FTW $300 / hour for SPECIAL TUNING instructions which Jamie has NEVER never figured out. Now that could be a problem for you, right?
Ok, that explains quite a lot.

So, this is the story as far as I am able to reconstruct:


*) During the 70's, Ron Brandt built an electric car, powered by a circuit now called the "Tesla Switch", a scaled down version of which was demonstrated in 1984 by John Bedini.

*) In the 1980s, Ron started working on magnetic motors based on "flux switching", based on Ecklin's theory. His "Ecklin Variable Reluctance Generator" was the first experimental device he build, with which he could achieve a COP of 1.05 (105%), which was unsatisfactory to him.

*) Ron designed a new type of motor, his Perm-Mag motor, whereby he placed magnets at the inside of a rotating cylinder, rotating around the stator. Because the magnets are supported by the cylinder, they can't "fly away" at high RPMs. He built (at least) two prototypes, of which he demonstrated the smaller one at the "Extraordinary Science Conference" in 1995. A video of his presentation has recently been made available by witts.

*) Ron kept on experimenting with these two Perm-Mag motors, rewinding them every now and then.

*) In January, 2010, Witts posts a video with a demonstration of Ron's variable reluctance prototype:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFu-s6ZmGyE

*) After Ron passed away in 2010, Timothy got hold of at least his variable reluctance prototype and possibly also the Perm-Mag motors. In the photos they released, there is no photograph showing a decently wired Perm-Mag stator, so apparently the only prototype still in a working condition was the variable reluctance prototype, which - according to Ron - could only do a COP of about 1.05.

*) In 2016, witts published a video, talking about Ron Brandt, which is said to have originally been aired on dec 31st, 2010:
https://youtu.be/1SYC-lc1730

*) Someone calling himself Herbie Smith claims to have purchased Ron's estate in February 2012:

Estate of Ron Brandt
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I purchased the estate of Ron Brandt, the inventor of the Tesla switch, this past summer. Items include a number of his Tesla switches, perm-mag motors, diagrams, vidoes and audio tapes of experiements and various mock ups. Wondering what I should do with these items.

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No the 1983 Chrysler New Yorker was dismantled. Appears he was in the process of placing the large perm-mag motor in a car but didn't complete. The motor was on the bench when we purchased his estate.

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When the estate was purchased he had developed 3 perm-mag motors all in different sizes. The last one was a working model on a bench motor weighs about 100lbs. Each perm-mag motor has a switch with it. It looked like Ron was building a 4th motor identical to the 3rd motor but much bigger. The design on the 4th was exactly the same as the 3rd motor. the 3rd motor, biggest motor mounted to a work bench was actually hooked up to 2 different banks of battery's and his switch.

He had so much paperwork and diagrams starting back to his days in Oregon it's hard to organize it all. It appears he had worked with John Bedini in the late 70's and early 80's. I can't find any collaboration with anyone with the motors and switches he developed before his death, looks like he was working alone on these.

All of his audio tapes have been snapped I guess for security reasons. Need to take them to a professional have them and have rewound to listen. The way his shop was configured he was a man in hidding for sure, very strange.
*) Witss demonstrated Ron's machine, which was received quite skeptically by the OU community, suggesting that the exact same device of which Ron said could only do a COP of 1.05 does now not only power itself, but also a load of about 2 kW.

*) James Robitaille attends training by Timothy Thrapp on Ron's machine and decides to open source what he knows, calling it the "QEG":

http://www.borderlands.de/Links/Witts-Warning.pdf
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I am a good friend of the lawful custodian of this technology (WITTS Ministries and Sir Timothy Thrapp) and I spoke to him at length last night about the un-authorized distribution of these QEG plans by FTW org. The so-called “Fix The World Organization.”

It would appear that these plans have been stolen and distributed without the permission of The Ministry or Sir Timothy.

This has been done apparently, on the grounds that the ‘Fix the World’ group felt that such technology belongs to the world, that it is improper for Sir Timothy and WITTS to be ‘sitting on it’ and that in light of this viewpoint, their action in distributing the plans without permission is justified.
*) Witts confirms the device they claim to be a 40 kW self-running generator has been built by Ron Brandt:

40KW Generator / QEG Help From The Source (WITTS Ministries)
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Our 40kw generator class for the above demonstrated by its builder in this video posted by WITTS several years ago, is still available today. It was invented by former WITTS spokesmen Ronald Brandt and Nikola Tesla.

From the picture from Ron with his Ecklin device, it is clear that the QEG is a replication of a device which did not perform to Ron's satisfaction.
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Old 01-11-2017, 04:39 PM
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In one of the photographs of Ron's workshop, I noted a printout of of a patent lying on his workbench. It wasn't very readable, but I could read the patent number, and the patent can be found at google:

https://www.google.com/patents/US5146395

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Power supply including two tank circuits

US 5146395 A
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The present invention provides a power supply for supplying electrical power to a load. The power supply includes first and second tank circuits having a common resonant frequency, and functions repetitively in two "major periods." In the first major period, the first tank is disconnected from powering the load and the second tank supplies power to the load while charging the first tank. In the second major period, the second tank is disconnected from powering the load, and the first tank supplies power to the load while charging the second tank.
There is a rather interesting overlap with the words used to describe Ron's converter in the article referred to earlier:

http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Mat...sue-4-1994.pdf

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With the advent of the gas wars of the early 70’s, Ron built his first electric car, converting a ’66 Doge Dart to electric. The motor was a 24-volt, 32 HP starter generator off of a B52 bomber. He designed and built a 2-tank, 24-volt resonant circuit, each side, or tank, had 3 batteries. He drew sequential power off each tank with an oscillating resonant current using Navy surplus transistors and diodes. (See Diagram 1.) This circuit was presented to the International Tesla Conference in Colorado Springs by John Bedini, in 1984.
In his 1995 presentation, Ron talked about the use of Mosfets and I think I've seen some remarks about a pending patent for Ron's controller.

Either way, this is the patent I saw on the photo.
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The missing ingredient: a permanent magnet

In the paper referenced earlier, there's another interesting photo at page 15:

http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Mat...sue-4-1994.pdf

It's caption reads:

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Ron Brandt holding a six-pole rotor of an Ecklin variable reluctance motor-generator. There's a two-pole rotor in the box.
That's rather interesting, because the Ecklin patent shows a two-pole rotor and it is pretty clear Ron's device incorporates four stator poles. That already hints in the direction of utilizing magnetic flux switching, as is also being done in the MEG. Further, in the plans for Ron's Perm-Mag motor released by Witts, there is a directory about Joseph Newmann's motor and a directory about "their" "flux switching transformer", which IS the MEG and also refers to Naudin's Meg page:

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Replications & Additional Technical Data:
The MEG - "Motionless Electromagnetic Generator" from Tom Bearden
I highly recommend watching this video by Lee Kenny, one of the inventors of the MEG, which shows you exactly how magnetic flux switching works and how they got to the current design of the MEG:

https://youtu.be/no50_5iSr2Y


Now take a look at what you can see from the actual rotor in the demonstration video by Witts:

https://youtu.be/LFu-s6ZmGyE?t=2m50s

Does this look anything like the rotor they are using in the QEG?

No, it looks like a disc on which something is mounted with a screw...

Now remember, this is Ron's experimental prototype, and in his presentation he says the Ecklin device was only theory and that he added something with which he has been able to make it work. And also remember that the knowledge he gained from experimenting with this device allowed him to design his Perm-Mag motor.

So, it seems clear that a permanent magnet needs to be part of the rotor in order to get a COP>1, which would suggest a rotor as in the Zimmerman patent as posted by vidbid:

https://www.google.com/patents/US2816240


However, with a rotor shaped like this, there is no way you can smoothly switch the magnetic flux of the permanent magnet from one set of poles to the next, so you would need a rotor specifically designed for flux switching, which brings me to some pictures posted by UfoPolitics in his thread a while ago:

My Asymmetric Electrodynamic Machines

http://www.tuks.nl/img/UfoPolitics_Free_Energy/img/








Now let's compare this to Ron's stator design, which is supposed to have 49 gaps (so 50 "pins"). Like Ron, I didn't count them in this image, but there should be 49 gaps:


And this is how this looks like in the big prototype of his Perm-Mag motor:


High res: http://www.tuks.nl/img/Brandt_Stator_photo.jpg

If I counted correctly, in Ron's Perm-Mag motor there's three stator pins for every magnet, allowing the magnetic flux from every rotating magnet to find a path trough multiple pins and smoothly switch from one pin to the next. All one needs to do is to direct the magnetic flux trough a pin you'd like it to go trough, as explained by Bearden's colleages in their video. All it takes to do that, it to pulse a coil around the pin you'd like the flux to go trough next.

An important difference between Ron's design and UfoPolitics is that with Ron's motor, the magnets are rotating and no brushes are required, while with UfoPolitics version, it's the other way around.

The photograph suggests Ron, like UfoPolitics, wound his coils around three stator pins at a time (covering one magnet), but he re-wound his motors multiple times, so it's definitely not certain this way of winding is best.

What this means for getting the QEG working.

The challenge to get the QEG working is not to find some kind of "resonance". Yes, there are optimal frequencies to work with and probably you need to work around those frequencies in order to get a COP >> 1, but that's not the essential point.

What is essential with these kinds of motor/generators is the way the flux is being switched/directed from one set of poles to the next. From the video revealing the actual rotor and the fact Ron also had a 6-pole rotor for the device, it is clear that Ron experimented with the rotor and that the addition of a permanent magnet is what made the difference.

What he found out is that he could not run his first "Ecklin" device at high RPMs, because of centripetal forces acting on the magnets in the rotor, which is why he designed a rotor consisting of a cylinder, which prevents the magnets from being ripped of the rotor at high RPMs. Also, the magnets on his Perm-Mag rotor were slightly bent, so there is very little space between the rotor and the stator (magnets) during operation.

So, in order to get the QEG working with a COP>1, one needs to design a rotor for this device, which incorporates at least one permanent magnet, in such a way that the magnetic flux can be directed from one set of poles to the next smoothly.

The rotor should have a number of poles, shaped like in UfoPoltics' pictures, whereby the end of the pole is wide enough to partly cover two stator poles during the flux switching process. And as said, somewhere in the rotor, there should be a permanent magnet. For a two-pole (magnetic) rotor rotating in a 4-pole stator (as the QEG is currently designed), the end of the poles should be about 90 degrees and probably slightly more than 90 degrees.

Then, just at the moment the pole comes into the vicinity of the next stator pole, the coil aligned with the desired new flux path is to be pulsed in order to direct the flux pro-actively into the desired direction at the desired moment. This will magnetize the rotor pole into attraction mode at the weak pole where we want the torque to go to, while at the same time de-magnetizing the strong pole, which we don't want to be attracting anymore, since that would slow the rotor down.

When this is achieved, COP > 1 operation should be possible with the QEG design, although in order to obtain a really powerful motor/generator, one would have to follow Ron's Perm-Mag design and move the rotor magnets to the outside in order to be able to keep the magnets in place.

However, one should be able to get a long way by designing a laminated rotor in which a permanent magnet is enclosed.

Hope this makes sense.....

Last edited by lamare; 01-12-2017 at 12:11 PM. Reason: Added link to Lee Kenny's video.
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Made a new thread for the more broad discussion of Ron Brandt, the MEG, the QEQ and the "magnetic flux switching" principle:

Ron Brandt's Perm-Mag, the QEG, the MEG and "magnetic flux switching" explained
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