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Old 08-27-2013, 08:48 AM
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Water treated with radio waves

I hope this piece of news will interest someone.

A GROUNDBREAKING new Irish technology which could be the greatest breakthrough in agriculture since the plough is set to change the face of modern farming forever.

Wave goodbye to global warming, GM and pesticides - Independent.ie
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:59 AM
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I found their website but no ordering info or price
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Old 08-28-2013, 01:14 AM
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I'd be curious to see what they mean by water treated by "radio waves." Are they Herzian waves, or perhaps something else? I can't help thinking about Ismael Aviso's treated water that is being reported by its users to save lives and return people to health. Similar claims have been made about drinking water from Joe Cells. Just gets curiouser and curiouser.
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:49 AM
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There are some documents here:

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Their real web site seems to be here. You can order here.

Vi~aqua - Water Energising Technology
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Old 08-28-2013, 11:13 PM
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Aviso water use highly ionized oxygenated water using spark gap so basically ozonated and raised the alkalinity level of the water to more than 10
He also used mineral drops that contain potassium bicarbonate or baking soda other ingredients for preserving fruits and one for used in wines

thats why people with cancer are being cured due to very worst water supply in Philippines where sewage and potable mixed due to illegal tapping
and are in same location


Blackchisel has been developing these technologies to date
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Old 08-29-2013, 06:31 AM
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Wow this is great news, thanks.

"Propagation: 27 MHz Radio Frequency propagation directly into water inlet or sump."
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:46 AM
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Nch tone generator record 27 mhz and convert to mp3 audio wire to pipe and liquid pos with diode ring magnet for structured water
It's frequency alright
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Old 08-29-2013, 12:08 PM
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I think the max. frequency you can record to mp3 is 24kHz (@ 48kHz sample rate) so this presents a problem.
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Old 08-29-2013, 06:11 PM
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I think you can do pretty much the same things as they claim with just simple magnets. I believe Peter Lindemann covered this in his book on magnets. Magnets take no energy input and much simpler to use.
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Old 08-30-2013, 12:26 AM
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Slider solved this with 27mhz kidstuff radio controller
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:56 AM
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Slider solved this with 27mhz kidstuff radio controller
Do you have a link to that?
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Old 08-31-2013, 12:32 AM
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Do you have a link to that?
27Mhz on plant growth youtube slider2732
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:43 AM
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27Mhz on plant growth youtube slider2732

thanks totoalas ... slider as usual .... great vid


on a side : out of curiosity ... how do magnets interact with radio waves ... just wondering
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:20 PM
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how do magnets interact with radio waves ... just wondering
Great question. I want to know too.

By the way I posted this somewhere else and looks like no one was as impressed as me about it:
Plant bacteria breakthrough enables crops worldwide to take nitrogen from the air | KurzweilAI
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:56 PM
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The most interesting part of the Independent.ie article is the part near the end
about if the water is fed to chickens and sheep they become "Giants".

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Intriguingly, chickens and sheep fed the energised water turned into giants. . . but that's another story!

That would mean it would work for people as well, could it be a hoax and the
sentence above is the give away. Or could it be real and we will soon see 9 to
10 feet tall people everywhere.

This would be a bit scary for the regular sized people when the 10 footers get
to juvenile age. How will we as normal sized people control 10 foot tall giants
when they cut loose and get out of control. Best we can hope for is they all
hit their heads so much they don't want to party.

Lot's of things will need to be redesigned. Also the food costs for 10 foot
Human will be more. Imagine everyone on the planet eating almost twice as
much, then there is the waste. And the medical bills if it causes medical
complications due to size/mass.

I find the sentence to be quite odd. And if true this could be very bad.

The only way a regular sized person could defend themselves against an
assault from a 10 foot person if the 10 foot person was fit and angry would be
with some kind of Martial Arts and luck or with weapons.

Maybe in future history books will be a section on the "Great Battle With the Water grown Giants."
The plight of the original regular sized and little people against the Giants from the treated water.

Lets hope it isn't true. Or will there need to be a law to prevent people from
giving the water to children.

Anyway I want one if they work.

Cheers

P.S. It's always been known that good rain is better than tap water because it
brings down infused nitrogen. (By good rain I mean storm rain that is not polluted)
not the drizzling for days type rain. Rain from a storm yes, drizzle rain not really.

What is the water they are comparing against. Treated Tap Water/dam water or Rain Water used fresh.

Rain makes the garden grow better than tap water or dam water but it does
not make people grow into giants. That is the odd part. And the part
that makes me wonder if it is legit.

And no picture evidence of any of it ?

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Old 09-01-2013, 04:27 AM
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There are supplements (zinc) given to deficient adolescents who are not maturing or growing much and they grow much more after. But they don't continue to grow at that same rate if continued on the supplement, they just make up for the deficient state then level off. Maybe the chickens who drink this radio water are the same? But who knows, I will be interested in slider's experiment, maybe after one year of radio treated water, I will be drafted first round by the Phoenix Suns, and I can stop this job hunting.
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:52 PM
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A study in japan where oysters raised near the rivers shrunk in years due to inuded forest.... so they planted trees and after 3 years the sea oysters get their nutrients and had grown 10 times .....
Also , its in the food chain Mcdonalds and junk food are for the middle class before thats why batch of 60s to 65s did not grow taller...... but now batch 80s (born) were taller than their sis and bros......
thanks to the junk food .......
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:17 AM
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It is fairly simple to get started with 27 MHz.
circuits for crystal based 27 MHz signals can be found in
inexpensive remote toys and handheld cb radios.

an 11 meter radio using one tube were available long ago. I believe the high voltage would be valuable inside a resonating cylinder and introducing a very small amount of water so that the chamber has alot of atmosphere, maybe a little diesel also. The tube should be made to deaden spurious radio noise.

I believe the equipment should resonate to the frequency rather than searching for one particular frequency. The study of plasma or plasma reformers reports that a catalyst further enhances the COP even higher. Not science fiction.

Measure the output with enhanced gas mixture to power a turbine that turns a generator
on constant load over time. There are 2 ways to fight the debunkers.
Show that the enhanced gas mixture is not weak as people are lead to believe but can be powerful.
second, show how clean the output is compared to a modern automobile exaust.
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It is fairly simple to get started with 27 MHz.
circuits for crystal based 27 MHz signals can be found in
inexpensive remote toys and handheld cb radios.

an 11 meter radio using one tube were available long ago. I believe the high voltage would be valuable inside a resonating cylinder and introducing a very small amount of water so that the chamber has alot of atmosphere, maybe a little diesel also. The tube should be made to deaden spurious radio noise.

I believe the equipment should resonate to the frequency rather than searching for one particular frequency. The study of plasma or plasma reformers reports that a catalyst further enhances the COP even higher. Not science fiction.

Measure the output with enhanced gas mixture to power a turbine that turns a generator
on constant load over time. There are 2 ways to fight the debunkers.
Show that the enhanced gas mixture is not weak as people are lead to believe but can be powerful.
second, show how clean the output is compared to a modern automobile exaust.
the following might be of interest :

Ancient Secrets Of Clay Amphora Vessels - YouTube

Clay helps to shape high temperature supercapacitor | News | The Engineer

Scientists Demonstrate Ultra-Fast Magnetite Electrical Switch | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

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Old 09-06-2013, 07:44 AM
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Interesting feedback.

The umpqua evopak is the plasma reformer (mit fuel reformer) I refered to.
The pdf needs copy archive please:
http://www.ghp-books.com/freegas/plasmatron1.pdf

The ultrafast magnatite clay reformed lends itself to conditioning.
The farnsworth shelved tubes (multipactor and canal )had a phenomena glow forming a space charge called plasmoid or small star.

The Farnsworth Fusor

I did research on a simular devise which has been taken from public knowledge. It was a specialized television tube.

What was taught about magnetism was this:
How Magnets Produce Electricity 1954 US Navy Electromagnetism Prime - YouTube

both cold and hot fusion have not been taught well and many devises have disappeared. Television was was clearly given priority but why.
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Old 09-06-2013, 08:09 AM
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"Extensively tested in Warrenstown Agricultural College, the technology is being hailed as a modern day miracle."

Taken from the article.

Interesting, the college was closed in 2001. It was bought out in 2008 and houses Colaiste na bhfiann, an Irish Language College. Quick check on Wiki showed that.

So this highly likely scam needs to sort out its 'facts' a bit better to obfuscate where the supposed tech comes from.

Sorry guys, it most likely is false.
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Old 09-06-2013, 01:38 PM
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Take your answers from here:

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Bifurcation transitions in a photochemical system under low magnetic fields | Browse - Journal of Chemical Physics

This is probably a good place to start. I think, I'm at home so I don't have access to lots of research articles. I work at a Uni, as a lowly senior lab tech, which means I know how to get things to work in the real world, unlike the big academics who know how things should work heheheh.

Anyway, whilst there may be evidence that EMF can promote (or stunt I would assume) plant growth there OP reference seems like a dud mainly because it cites an institute that no longer exists, unless wiki is wrong, which it has been known to be.
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do you have this .pdf Toll?

this is similar to what you say NUCLEAR* MAGNETIC RESONANCE
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Electrical stimulation of plants to enhance growth or resist disease has been
around since the turn of the century I think or before. I think there is a
thread here about it.

Would it really matter how or where the water is treated by electricity.

From memory the old method was to erect atmospheric potential harvesters
or radiant energy receivers to power wires buried in the ground and with
seemingly very good results, the energy is free and not high tech anyone can
do it. It is also well tested and would seem to be a proven technology.

Is anyone going to try that method ?

I might. I might just grow two plots of a crop, but to isolate the control crop I
would need to use above ground pots for it or locate the control crop at a
distance which will have other effects, so the crop type is limited. A crop with
lots of individual plants so there is more data would be better than testing
three or four tomato plants.

Maybe Slider is willing the plants to grow better and they are responding to
his thought energy.

I also have an electric fence outputting HV impulses about every 1.5 seconds
which I can see on my scope from 100 meters away if I scope the ground and
a piece of isolated metal. So that would affect a ground crop as well maybe.

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